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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: cmjb13 on February 23, 2007, 07:07:36 AM
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According to tvtix (http://\"http://tvtix.com/show.php?eventID=355&scheduleID=12995\"), Mario Lopez, Mike Richards (not Seinfeld), and George Hamilton will receive tryouts on March 12.
I'm not surprised about Hamilton. (http://\"http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.tv.game-shows/browse_thread/thread/27f95ede40735877/99e50de164198174?lnk=st&q=&rnum=1&hl=en#99e50de164198174\") Semi-surprised about Lopez (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=1740&hl=lopez\")
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The claim that a contestant could win $5,000 or more at this set of tryouts may be inaccurate. If I get more concrete information, I'll elaborate, but be aware that it might not be possible to win $5,000.
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Scott Robinson
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Glad I can finally comment. George Hamilton was GREAT hosting TPiR-Live in Vegas. Classy, fun, loved by the audiences, and a joy to work with.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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I have always liked GH and he was one of the very few good things about MG98.
However, isn't he a little OLD to be taking over for Barker? (the man's gonna be 68 this year)
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' post=\'146733\' date=\'Feb 23 2007, 02:16 PM\']However, isn't he a little OLD to be taking over for Barker? (the man's gonna be 68 this year)[/quote]
Well, not compared to Barker...
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An interesting note in all this (to me) is that Rich Fields has yet to be granted an audition.
If nothing else but as a courtesy seeing how I understand he's Bob Barker's choice to succeed him.
Not that he'd set the world on fire necessarily, but I figured he'd have gotten a shot by now.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'146736\' date=\'Feb 23 2007, 11:57 AM\']
An interesting note in all this (to me) is that Rich Fields has yet to be granted an audition.
If nothing else but as a courtesy seeing how I understand he's Bob Barker's choice to succeed him.
Not that he'd set the world on fire necessarily, but I figured he'd have gotten a shot by now.
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That he hasn't gives me a great deal of hope.
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I dunno about Hamilton. The fact that Randy thought highly of him speaks volumes....but I see him the same way i see O'Hurley....playing 'the role' of a game show host, instead of just hosting the show.....
Mario Lopez? That's just demos talking. And they're talking out of their ass again.
And jeez, but if they're desperate enough to go down the route of Mike Richards, we may as well hire an unknown to do it, like a morning weatherman in, oh, I dunno, say , Connecticut?
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'146746\' date=\'Feb 23 2007, 05:27 PM\']
And jeez, but if they're desperate enough to go down the route of Mike Richards, we may as well hire an unknown to do it, like a morning weatherman in, oh, I dunno, say , Connecticut?
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Scot Haney? <ducking>
-- JV
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'146746\' date=\'Feb 23 2007, 05:27 PM\']
I dunno about Hamilton. The fact that Randy thought highly of him speaks volumes....but I see him the same way i see O'Hurley....playing 'the role' of a game show host, instead of just hosting the show.....
Mario Lopez? That's just demos talking. And they're talking out of their ass again.
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O'Hurley playing the role is a good point. I like him a lot, but there's a way about him that puts him above the proceedings, whether it be "Feud" or the dog show. It strikes me that that's how the tanned one would do it, too. He could be great on a game show, but TPIR might not be the one.
That may be the one thing Mario has going for him (besides looks and demos). I never saw him on that talk show with Bonaduce and Dick Clark, but I can't imagine there's much irony to him.
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[quote name=\'JVatPSU\' post=\'146799\' date=\'Feb 24 2007, 11:21 AM\']
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'146746\' date=\'Feb 23 2007, 05:27 PM\']
And jeez, but if they're desperate enough to go down the route of Mike Richards, we may as well hire an unknown to do it, like a morning weatherman in, oh, I dunno, say , Connecticut?
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Scot Haney? <ducking>
-- JV
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I dunno who you are, but I've shot men for less.
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How many of us were horrified at the thought of Donny Osmond hosting Pyramid? But by the end of the first season, general consensus was he was the best thing about the show.
Wait and see.
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But by the end of the first season, general consensus was he was the best thing about the show.
I think it's more the WC and core game were turned so upside down that more people complained about that than the very generic host, who was neither here nor there. I know we pull out these comparisons more often than not now, but I personally was not among those who was leery of Howie Mandel or Bob Saget, because I knew both to be professional and funny and engaging. Mario Lopez, not so much.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'146808\' date=\'Feb 24 2007, 03:23 PM\']
[quote name=\'JVatPSU\' post=\'146799\' date=\'Feb 24 2007, 11:21 AM\']
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'146746\' date=\'Feb 23 2007, 05:27 PM\']
And jeez, but if they're desperate enough to go down the route of Mike Richards, we may as well hire an unknown to do it, like a morning weatherman in, oh, I dunno, say , Connecticut?
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Scot Haney? <ducking>
-- JV
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I dunno who you are, but I've shot men for less.
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You don't recognize John Venturini, the internationally* renowned creator of the long-running Shut Up and Fish? And you call yourself a game show fan. Pathetic.
*At least one guy from Canada knows him.
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'146825\' date=\'Feb 24 2007, 11:26 PM\']
You don't recognize John Venturini, the internationally* renowned creator of the long-running Shut Up and Fish? And you call yourself a game show fan. Pathetic.
*At least one guy from Canada knows him.
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We're starting the big-money Tournament of Trout next month, very excited about that. And yes, a female Filipino lounge singer from the city of Bontoc can vouch for me as well.
-- JV
(If it's any consolation, Matt, several Vegas books have you more favored for the Price job... than say, Bob Maxon. :-) )
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[quote name=\'JVatPSU\' post=\'146834\' date=\'Feb 25 2007, 06:31 AM\']
(If it's any consolation, Matt, several Vegas books have you more favored for the Price job... than say, Bob Maxon. :-) )
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Well, that's a little better. Emphasis on 'little'.
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[quote name=\'calliaume\' post=\'146823\' date=\'Feb 24 2007, 10:50 PM\']How many of us were horrified at the thought of Donny Osmond hosting Pyramid? But by the end of the first season, general consensus was he was the best thing about the show.[/quote]
Well, yes. And we may think more highly of Mario Lopez after they: change the rules so that a stuck Plinko chip counts as landing in $0, start making contestants bid on ceramic dalmatians every day, knock 10 seconds off every game with a time limit . . .
(Pointless note: the last is a comparison to something on Pyramid I actually didn't mind, but it turns out that Pyramid and TPIR don't have a lot in common. Who knew?)
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I dunno about Hamilton. The fact that Randy thought highly of him speaks volumes....but I see him the same way i see O'Hurley....playing 'the role' of a game show host, instead of just hosting the show.....
Hamilton was natural and unaffected as a panelist on MG98. I don't see why you assume he would simply "play the role" after someone who knows his stuff and has seen him do it said he was capital "GREAT".
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'146840\' date=\'Feb 25 2007, 12:49 PM\']
I dunno about Hamilton. The fact that Randy thought highly of him speaks volumes....but I see him the same way i see O'Hurley....playing 'the role' of a game show host, instead of just hosting the show.....
Hamilton was natural and unaffected as a panelist on MG98. I don't see why you assume he would simply "play the role" after someone who knows his stuff and has seen him do it said he was capital "GREAT".[/quote]
I think what may set George Hamilton apart from a John O'Hurley is that he's learned to play the part of George Hamilton to perfection. When you're a pop culture icon, you need a healthy dose of self-awareness so folks know you're in on the joke, but you can't let it drift into self-parody the way Shatner probably did with Show Me The Money. Hamilton's proven he's comfortable being himself in a talk show setting and as a panelist, and even his silly commercials show him as someone who gets it. ("I know toasted.") He'd also have that sexy-older-man thing going for him that might make for a smoother transition than a younger host would provide. I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be terrific as a host.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'146842\' date=\'Feb 25 2007, 01:13 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'146840\' date=\'Feb 25 2007, 12:49 PM\']
I dunno about Hamilton. The fact that Randy thought highly of him speaks volumes....but I see him the same way i see O'Hurley....playing 'the role' of a game show host, instead of just hosting the show.....
Hamilton was natural and unaffected as a panelist on MG98. I don't see why you assume he would simply "play the role" after someone who knows his stuff and has seen him do it said he was capital "GREAT".[/quote]
I think what may set George Hamilton apart from a John O'Hurley is that he's learned to play the part of George Hamilton to perfection. When you're a pop culture icon, you need a healthy dose of self-awareness so folks know you're in on the joke, but you can't let it drift into self-parody the way Shatner probably did with Show Me The Money. Hamilton's proven he's comfortable being himself in a talk show setting and as a panelist, and even his silly commercials show him as someone who gets it. ("I know toasted.") He'd also have that sexy-older-man thing going for him that might make for a smoother transition than a younger host would provide. I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be terrific as a host.
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Don't get me wrong, I think he's the best selection yet for tryouts... But there just seems to be a new mentality in finding a new host for one ot tv's longest running shows , a new mentality that I just can't seem to get.
I mean, you mean to tell me that there isn't ONE veteran game show host, with experience in the genre, that shouldn't be considered? (And please, Newton BARELY qualifies here). Tom Kennedy himself said this show is tough to do. You gonna tell me with a straight face that Dave Price, Mario Lopez, Doug Davidson, Mike Richards and John O Hurley are the best they can come up with?
Yeah, Hamilton 'gets it' as a tv personality, but to me , that has little to do with being a game show host.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'146846\' date=\'Feb 25 2007, 01:42 PM\']
I mean, you mean to tell me that there isn't ONE veteran game show host, with experience in the genre, that shouldn't be considered?[/quote]
But who is there? Most of our favorites are either in their 70s or 80s or deceased.
I wouldn't mind Gordon Elliott being given a shot.
Would Chuck Woolery want it? Would you consider Chuck as the new host?
Same with Wink Martindale and Bob Eubanks and others we've loved over the decades.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'146846\' date=\'Feb 25 2007, 01:42 PM\']
I mean, you mean to tell me that there isn't ONE veteran game show host, with experience in the genre, that shouldn't be considered?[/quote]
That's the problem...like Don said, most of them are too old to take over the show at this point. The other two "veterans", Alex Trebek and Pat Sajak, aren't moving anytime soon, nor do I want them too.
I do want to see David Ruprecht given a shot...unless there's a new Supermarket Sweep in the works.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'146808\' date=\'Feb 24 2007, 03:23 PM\']
[quote name=\'JVatPSU\' post=\'146799\' date=\'Feb 24 2007, 11:21 AM\']
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'146746\' date=\'Feb 23 2007, 05:27 PM\']
And jeez, but if they're desperate enough to go down the route of Mike Richards, we may as well hire an unknown to do it, like a morning weatherman in, oh, I dunno, say , Connecticut?
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Scot Haney? <ducking>
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I dunno who you are, but I've shot men for less.
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The board member who bids closest to the retail price of the contract on JV's life... ;)
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'146846\' date=\'Feb 25 2007, 02:42 PM\']
I mean, you mean to tell me that there isn't ONE veteran game show host, with experience in the genre, that shouldn't be considered?
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There's one guy who comes to mind but it'd never happen. Even though he has the most experience behind 'Ol Bob...Larry Emdur.
(Someone else suggested Gordon Eliott...another fine choice, IMO)
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' post=\'146874\' date=\'Feb 25 2007, 04:56 PM\']
There's one guy who comes to mind but it'd never happen. Even though he has the most experience behind 'Ol Bob...Larry Emdur.
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Did you learn NOTHING from Bruce Forsyth?
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'146846\' date=\'Feb 25 2007, 01:42 PM\']
I mean, you mean to tell me that there isn't ONE veteran game show host, with experience in the genre, that shouldn't be considered? (And please, Newton BARELY qualifies here). Tom Kennedy himself said this show is tough to do. You gonna tell me with a straight face that Dave Price, Mario Lopez, Doug Davidson, Mike Richards and John O Hurley are the best they can come up with?
Yeah, Hamilton 'gets it' as a tv personality, but to me , that has little to do with being a game show host.
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The problem I have with the list is that very few of them have proven, at least in their previous gigs, that they know how to deal with John or Jane Q. Public. I can't help but think that Hamilton will try to make the show about him (whether he's conscious of the fact or not), which is the total opposite of the Barker mentality. Should they be looking for the next Barker facsimilie? No. But they should be looking for a host that will keep the credo of keeping the contestants (the lifeblood of the show) the stars.
Mentioning Newton for a second... Newton has a very bad history of over-the-topping entire situations. The one thing Barker does when someone wins is not go crazy himself, but rather lets the college kid from Ohio jump all over the place.
And I will go on record and say that you, Matt, would be a better candidate than Dave Price. :-)
Dave's crowd work on The Early Show is, for a lack of better words, downright painful.
-- JV
(My personal choice? Bergeron. Won't happen though. Problems are: he has two gigs on ABC -- one of which is a highly rated cash cow for the network and most of his recent job experience (Squares, Dancing) is with the celebs. I truly think, though, that he could pull off the work necessary for this amazing gig.)
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[quote name=\'JVatPSU\' post=\'146901\' date=\'Feb 26 2007, 07:52 AM\']
I can't help but think that Hamilton will try to make the show about him (whether he's conscious of the fact or not), which is the total opposite of the Barker mentality.
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Are you serious? IMO that's the main problem about the show these days, not a day has gone by over the last 10 years where Barker will stop the show cold just to make a personal comment or observation that is often obvious or unnecessary. He's the prime example of a host making a show about him.
As for Hamilton, he has a self-awareness about that is good, yet I agree with most in that he'd also inadvertently make it into "Hey, it's George Hamilton on The Price Is Right!"
Tyshaun
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'146868\' date=\'Feb 25 2007, 07:18 PM\']
[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'146846\' date=\'Feb 25 2007, 01:42 PM\']
I mean, you mean to tell me that there isn't ONE veteran game show host, with experience in the genre, that shouldn't be considered?[/quote]
But who is there? Most of our favorites are either in their 70s or 80s or deceased.
I wouldn't mind Gordon Elliott being given a shot.
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I like Gordon. he'd fit in well.
My one choice ? Marc Summers. I really think it's the role he was meant to have.
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I think George Hamilton would be pretty good. He did the G-T panels of the '60s (he was on WML? this morning) and was always entertaining.
Versatile actor, too. What other actor could play Moss Hart, Hank Williams, Evel Kneivel, Dracula and Zorro and do so well in each role?
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'146846\' date=\'Feb 25 2007, 01:42 PM\']
(My personal choice? Bergeron. Won't happen though. Problems are: he has two gigs on ABC -- one of which is a highly rated cash cow for the network and most of his recent job experience (Squares, Dancing) is with the celebs. I truly think, though, that he could pull off the work necessary for this amazing gig.)
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I think Bergeron fits under the "best choice who's not being considered" category. I agree with your thinking that he's probably the best choice. Seasoned, professional, good sense of humor and, from my interactions with him, a very nice & genuine guy (a rarity in Hollywood).
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' post=\'146905\' date=\'Feb 26 2007, 10:16 AM\']
My one choice ? Marc Summers. I really think it's the role he was meant to have.
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It certainly would be destiny... from a CBS page for the show in 1972 to becoming its host in 2007.
-- JV
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[quote name=\'JVatPSU\' post=\'146901\' date=\'Feb 26 2007, 04:52 AM\']
I can't help but think that Hamilton will try to make the show about him (whether he's conscious of the fact or not), which is the total opposite of the Barker mentality.
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What's it like, living in a completely opposite reality than the rest of us? :)
And I will go on record and say that you, Matt, would be a better candidate than Dave Price. :-)
Dave's crowd work on The Early Show is, for a lack of better words, downright painful.
Gilbert Gottfried would be a better candidate than Dave Price. (Not to take anything away from Matt's significant talents. :))
(My personal choice? Bergeron. Won't happen though.
I agree, and I have to think at this point in the game, it's by his own choosing. It would truly boggle me if he or his agent didn't at the very least receive a phone call.
/still holding out for Marc Summers
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'146911\' date=\'Feb 26 2007, 11:15 AM\']
/still holding out for Marc Summers
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Too dry based on the TPIR Live show I saw him at.
On the upside, he did move the game along pretty damn fast.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' post=\'146912\' date=\'Feb 26 2007, 08:53 AM\']
Too dry based on the TPIR Live show I saw him at.
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So you said, but I'd still like to see it.