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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: urbanpreppie05 on June 21, 2007, 02:50:40 PM

Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: urbanpreppie05 on June 21, 2007, 02:50:40 PM
Make me Famous, Make me Rich; the show that replaced the long-running Cash Explosion, is being replaced by...Cash Explosion. (http://\"http://www.wkyc.com/life/entertainment_article.aspx?storyid=69876\")
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: clemon79 on June 21, 2007, 02:53:53 PM
[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' post=\'155766\' date=\'Jun 21 2007, 11:50 AM\']
Make me Famous, the show that replaced the long-running Cash Explosion, is being replaced by...Cash Explosion. (http://\"http://www.wkyc.com/life/entertainment_article.aspx?storyid=69876\")
[/quote]
And if you saw Make Me Famous, you're not surprised in the least. My Gawd that show was Grade-A crappe.
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: urbanpreppie05 on June 21, 2007, 02:55:25 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'155767\' date=\'Jun 21 2007, 02:53 PM\']
[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' post=\'155766\' date=\'Jun 21 2007, 11:50 AM\']
Make me Famous, the show that replaced the long-running Cash Explosion, is being replaced by...Cash Explosion. (http://\"http://www.wkyc.com/life/entertainment_article.aspx?storyid=69876\")
[/quote]
And if you saw Make Me Famous, you're not surprised in the least. My Gawd that show was Grade-A crappe.
[/quote]
I did. And that's why I live in Pittsburgh now. :-)
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 21, 2007, 03:07:34 PM
Ok...for anyone who lives in OH, has the show gotten ANY better since the first episodes?
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: urbanpreppie05 on June 21, 2007, 03:14:02 PM
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'155769\' date=\'Jun 21 2007, 03:07 PM\']
Ok...for anyone who lives in OH, has the show gotten ANY better since the first episodes?
[/quote]
No.

(I just moved to PA less than two weeks ago)
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: TimK2003 on June 21, 2007, 04:07:58 PM
[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' post=\'155766\' date=\'Jun 21 2007, 02:50 PM\']
Make me Famous, Make me Rich; the show that replaced the long-running Cash Explosion, is being replaced by...Cash Explosion. (http://\"http://www.wkyc.com/life/entertainment_article.aspx?storyid=69876\")
[/quote]


Interesting that this news item appeared on the WKYC/Channel 3 website, while the show itself (and all live lottery drawings) appear on their competitor, WEWS/Channel 5.  But I assume that the national wire stories automatically get placed on the WKYC site.

Ever since the Ohio Lottery switched marketing firms a couple of years ago and the weekly lottery shows moved to Columbus (the live nightly draws still occur in Cleveland), the quality of the shows had dropped faster than "Show Me The Money"'s ratings. (although the last Cash Explosion set was a lot nicer than the sets used on the older CE shows).
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: toddyo on June 21, 2007, 06:00:56 PM
MMF, MMR is still as horrible as when it started.

The best thing that the Ohio Lottery could do is to get rid of their marketing/production contractor and have the show go back to its Paul Tapie/Sharon Bicknell days. He knew how to build suspense and actually have a 2-way conversation without requiring cue cards.

The last version of CEDP was a joke but not as bad as MMF,MMR. This program is still heavily (and poorly) edited, to the point of all game action is joined in progress (YES, even at the BEGINNING of the show). Poor backtiming!

Plus...the contestants weren't getting the $$$$ payouts like the former show did.  Cheap!
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: MikeK on June 21, 2007, 06:01:07 PM
The Ohio Lottery press release (http://\"http://www.ohiolottery.com/press_releases/PressReleasesDet.aspx?Id=1000\")

Hallelujah.  The only facet of Make Me Famous, Make Me Rich that I liked was that 30 new people played every week, versus 8 on Cash Explosion.  The odds go from "snowball's chance in hell" to "a 275% better chance than a snowball's chance in hell".  I should send in the MMF,MMR entry ticket which has been sitting on my bookcase since well before Christmas into the lottery soon...

Hopefully the powers that be can get some tolerable hosts, unlike the last talentless duo which hosted Cash Explosion or the Dylan Lane wannabe who hosts MMF,MMR.
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: sshuffield70 on June 21, 2007, 06:45:00 PM
I will agree about David McCreary being a Dylan Lane clone.  That, and the still random luck of the game (even though the players have to choose "safe money" or "risk", and it majority rules) make it a bad format.  Then again, I think the only good lottery based show I've seen is "Illinois Instant Riches".

And the Make Me Famous part didn't really take effect this season.  It looks like they were going to start that in the fall.  As for Make Me Rich (?), considering the average champion was winning about $60,000 a show, and maybe making a few appearances, I can't call it rich.
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 21, 2007, 06:58:07 PM
I, right now, will be opening myself up for endless ridicule from the members of this board.  I...

a) live in Indiana
b) watched "Hoosier Millionaire".

Hoosier Millionaire in its original form was decent.  The eleventy billion makeovers of the show toward the end turned me off, but MMF, MMR was worse.  But all is moot when compared to Illinois Instant Riches.

/someone needs to post an episode of IIR
//perty-please?
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: Speedy G on June 21, 2007, 07:44:03 PM
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'155769\' date=\'Jun 21 2007, 03:07 PM\']
Ok...for anyone who lives in OH, has the show gotten ANY better since the first episodes?
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If I'm being objective, they tweaked the dollar amounts so that the safe board was actually a choice to consider, and they've tried to fit in as much camera time for the contestants as possible.  On the other hand, they completely gave up on even showing round one of each semifinal game, starting each game in progress, and the host never wavered from being a complete tool.

It sure as hell didn't get better, but it didn't get worse either.  Hard to get much worse than that, really.

 But you don't have to take my word for it! (http://\"http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=708960459034119526\")
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: Don Howard on June 21, 2007, 08:22:18 PM
Oh, bless the stars and bars. That show was an excremental electronic mortal sin.
As for a Cash Explosion host, I wonder if Don Webster can be talked into coming out of retirement.
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: clemon79 on June 21, 2007, 08:40:51 PM
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'155798\' date=\'Jun 21 2007, 03:58 PM\']
a) live in Indiana
b) watched "Hoosier Millionaire".

Hoosier Millionaire in its original form was decent.
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Did it still have the "leaderboard" That's what made the show suck and worthy of destruction to me. The idea of keeping a leaderboard of People Who Pick Numbers Randomly Better is just about the most brain-dead moronic concept I can think of.
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 21, 2007, 08:53:09 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'155807\' date=\'Jun 21 2007, 08:40 PM\']
Did it still have the "leaderboard" That's what made the show suck and worthy of destruction to me. The idea of keeping a leaderboard of People Who Pick Numbers Randomly Better is just about the most brain-dead moronic concept I can think of.
[/quote]The earliest concept of the game that I could remember was as follows...

 - all six contestants play three rounds on a thirty-number trillion board
 - there were three 'bonuses', a trip (usually sponsored by ATA), set of lottery tickets, and a doubler (doubles next pick)
 - highest score after all three rounds wins and plays the bonus game
 - bonus game was four numbers, with prizes of $50,000, $100,000, $1M, and a stopper
 - contestant could continue after any pick (think 'Pass the Buck' on TPiR, stopper ended game

This is from a hazy memory of 1996.  This format beats the hell out of the most recent generation of the show, with its anti-climatic third round.

I think there was at least one time where the final pick caused a tie, and in tie-breaking rounds, succeeded to use up the rest of the numbers.

No fear, Henke will come back and correct everything I've said.
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: clemon79 on June 21, 2007, 10:21:38 PM
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'155809\' date=\'Jun 21 2007, 05:53 PM\']
No fear, Henke will come back and correct everything I've said.
[/quote]
That is, in fact, exactly my fear.
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: beatlefreak84 on June 22, 2007, 03:19:44 PM
Quote
This is from a hazy memory of 1996. This format beats the hell out of the most recent generation of the show, with its anti-climatic third round.

I definitely agree with that; they used to show it in IL as well, and I pretty much stopped watching it after the major format change.

The earliest I can remember was around 1991...the front game was played the same way, minus the doubler, and the two bonus prizes were things like a grand piano, a car, etc.  The bonus game was finding three dollar signs behind the four numbers; each one increased your money from $50K to $100K, and then up to the million.  Finding the stopper along the way ended the game.

However, I always thought the format tpirfan described was the best; by that point, the show was well-polished (well, as well-polished as a state lottery show can get, I guess, besides IIR...:) ).  I just wish they didn't get rid of Mark Patrick.

My mom always remembers this show as "that show where they never got excited about winning money."  She's right; the sole episode I have on tape has people cracking half-smiles upon winning $5,000!  Perhaps it was produced by Endemol?  :)

Anthony
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: rebelwrest on June 22, 2007, 03:48:28 PM
I hope they have hosting auditions.  I may have to make a trip to Columbus to strut my stuff.  (It's wishful thinking, but its probably the closest I'll ever be.)
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: tpirfan28 on June 23, 2007, 03:37:14 PM
For those who have never seen the version that myself and Anthony are describing, I've come up with a really simple way of describing the set:

Think six-person 'Concentration'...except without a car, mirrors, and flip the contestants and the board.  Then add the sushi-bar elements of the older J! set.  Bingo.  I think the trillion gameboard did *something* to rotate from the maingame board to the bonus round board...but I can't tell you for sure.
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: dazztardly on June 24, 2007, 06:20:37 AM
I watched a number of episodes on Google video. E for Effort... But no real suspense or anything, no psychology involved in the deployment of the random outcome of the money board. It gets boring really quickly.



-Dan
FLASHGames²
Title: Not if anyone outside Ohio cares....
Post by: Jimmy Owen on June 24, 2007, 07:01:02 AM
That's why lottery game shows don't generally work.  They can't have skill involved.  They can't choose the contestants, if you get a 75 year old lady who only speaks Polish, that's what you go with. The only things you can do are visual (a big wheel, the IIR games, etc.)