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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: BMaurice06 on September 05, 2007, 02:37:51 AM
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I spotted this on the magazine's website:
A Game Show Host for a Day (http://\"http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2007/08/a-game-show-hos.html\")
Now my anticipation for the show is up a bit after viewing the video. I will admit I was too harsh on Rossi even though I haven't yet seen him in action; I like that he shaved off that facial hair 'cause I wasn't digging that at all. That and the set looks pleasant enough for daytime television. But I still have issues with a spike-word-styled Fame Game, the pop-culture questions, and the home-shopping crossovers (remember Bargain Hunters with Peter Tomarken?); IMHO Fremantle would have been way much better off preserving most of the elements of the classic "Grundy format" than doing it their own way.
And to Mr. Chris Lemon, if you're going to doo-doo all over my opinions next time, try and be less harsh!
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This was posted four days ago (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=13290&view=findpost&p=162510\") -- in a thread that you started, I might add.
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Doo-Doo? Really?
I'm understanding Matt's analogy of Invision as a daycare more and more these days.
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[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'162785\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 07:23 AM\']
I'm understanding Matt's analogy of Invision as a daycare more and more these days.
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So in other words, Nanny 911 really is a game show.
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[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' post=\'162785\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 08:23 AM\']
I'm understanding Matt's analogy of Invision as a daycare more and more these days.
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Actually, Matt compared the GSN board to day care, not ours.
[quote name=\'BMaurice06\' post=\'162768\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 02:37 AM\']
And to Mr. Chris Lemon, if you're going to doo-doo all over my opinions next time, try and be less harsh!
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Mr. Maurice, it is a stretch to say that you hold "opinions." You hold exactly one, and it boils down to the following: "Todd Newton is G-d's gift to game shows, television, broadcasting and humanity. Anyone who thinks otherwise or would consider anyone else for any broadcasting-related job is committing an offense to basic human decency, and any program that does not involve him is destined for failure." You're so upset by the choice of Rossi Morreale over Todd Newton that you didn't even realize that the article you "spotted" was mentioned in a thread that you yourself started.
I have absolutely no reason to believe that Todd Newton is anything but a professional and an all-around nice guy; everything I've seen and heard — from seeing him at work, from people like Randy West who have worked with him, and from others like Mike Klauss who have merely met him briefly — suggests exactly that. But the only person whose life reasonably should revolve around Todd Newton is Todd Newton. You need to understand that a choice has been made and that it wasn't the one you agreed with. Stop whining, wait until the show has aired before judging it, and move on with your life.
(And a side note to Mr. Morreale, in case he or the Temptation executives read this board: would you please consider signing up for an account with us? Aside from giving us the insider's perspective many of us enjoy hearing, perhaps you can convince Mr. Maurice that you are far more than Not Todd Newton.)
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'162790\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 09:02 AM\']I have absolutely no reason to believe that Todd Newton is anything but a professional and an all-around nice guy; everything I've seen and heard — from seeing him at work, from people like Randy West who have worked with him, and from others like Mike Klauss who have merely met him briefly — suggests exactly that.[/quote]
Yes. Todd Newton's a nice guy.
/Not in the same way as that Pat O'Brien fellow.
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[quote name=\'BMaurice06\' post=\'162768\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 02:37 AM\']
But I still have issues with a spike-word-styled Fame Game, the pop-culture questions, and the home-shopping crossovers (remember Bargain Hunters with Peter Tomarken?); IMHO Fremantle would have been way much better off preserving most of the elements of the classic "Grundy format" than doing it their own way.
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How about Chip Clips and Double Whammies?
You act like the 80s version was the most solid show in the world, and this is from someone who holds the show as one of his Top 10 in the Top 50 list he sent Michi-Matt. The show was called "$ale of the Century" for a reason, mainly because of the concept of contestants buying prizes at reduced prices. The questions took a backseat to the actually "Sale" gimmick, evidence by the most basic Q&A format you can think of. I love the show to this day (fond childhood memory), but I won't deny the fact that the lower-prices gimmick dressed up a very dry format idea. Quite honestly, how the contestants earn their purchase money is quite irrelevant; as long as I'm seeing a $900 appliance offered for $12+a possible small cash bonus, I'm happy.
Or maybe you would've liked that Robin Leach pilot that didn't even have Instant Bargains?
Stop whining about small issues, and just watch the show.
/Tonight at 8, on MyNetworkTV!
//Now, in over 75 homes!!!
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[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'162777\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 07:20 AM\']
This was posted four days ago (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=13290&view=findpost&p=162510\") -- in a thread that you started, I might add.
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Sorry. I guess I don't keep up with this forum as much as I think I do.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'162809\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 01:21 PM\']
[quote name=\'BMaurice06\' post=\'162768\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 02:37 AM\']
But I still have issues with a spike-word-styled Fame Game, the pop-culture questions, and the home-shopping crossovers (remember Bargain Hunters with Peter Tomarken?); IMHO Fremantle would have been way much better off preserving most of the elements of the classic "Grundy format" than doing it their own way.
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How about Chip Clips and Double Whammies?
You act like the 80s version was the most solid show in the world, and this is from someone who holds the show as one of his Top 10 in the Top 50 list he sent Michi-Matt. The show was called "$ale of the Century" for a reason, mainly because of the concept of contestants buying prizes at reduced prices. The questions took a backseat to the actually "Sale" gimmick, evidence by the most basic Q&A format you can think of. I love the show to this day (fond childhood memory), but I won't deny the fact that the lower-prices gimmick dressed up a very dry format idea. Quite honestly, how the contestants earn their purchase money is quite irrelevant; as long as I'm seeing a $900 appliance offered for $12+a possible small cash bonus, I'm happy.
Or maybe you would've liked that Robin Leach pilot that didn't even have Instant Bargains?
Stop whining about small issues, and just watch the show.
/Tonight at 8, on MyNetworkTV!
//Now, in over 75 homes!!!
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Let me clear some thing up:
1. I thought the 80s version was great, but not exactly the most solid in the world; that title I think belongs to Aussie Sale during the Tony Barber era. I just would have liked it more if the producer of Temptation came up with much harder material than just seemingly easy pop-culture questions.
2. I was not disparaging the fact that the Instant Bargain format; just merely believing that by putting equal emphasis on both the Q&A and prizes much as they do on Aussie Temptation the show would be perfect.
3. No, I have not see the Robin Leach pilot and if I did I wouldn't have liked it at all because it didn't have the Instant Bargains.
4. Chip Clips were bad and Double Whammies were good IMO.
Having said all of this, for you I will check out the preview and give Rossi a chance because he's a rookie.
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[quote name=\'BMaurice06\' post=\'162820\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 02:40 PM\']
I just would have liked it more if the producer of Temptation came up with much harder material than just seemingly easy pop-culture questions.
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How in the world do you know how hard the material is until you've seen the show? And I might add that the original SotC wasn't exactly Jeopardy! or Who Wants to Be a Millionaire in terms of difficulty of the material, since that wasn't the focus.
No, I have not see the Robin Leach pilot and if I did I wouldn't have liked it at all because it didn't have the Instant Bargains.
And how do you know you wouldn't have liked it anyway?
Having said all of this, for you I will check out the preview and give Rossi a chance because he's a rookie.
How about this: instead of checking it out for Brandon's sake (I'm sure he wouldn't lose sleep if you didn't watch it, actually), how about checking it out for yourself so that, for once, you can have an informed opinion instead of "I don't like it because Todd Newton's not the host and it's not exactly the same as it always was"?
I'm reminded of Nathan Hantz's "review (http://\"http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.game-shows/msg/84cd6d89a24a9cb3\")" of Whammy! The All-New Press Your Luck. Of course, while his "it's not exactly like the original PYL in every detail so it sucks" rant was pure dreck, at least Nathan had the courtesy to watch the damned show first before posting about how much he thought it sucked.
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But boy, those Double Whammies sure were corkers, weren't they? Ha, ha, ha, ha! I'm still laughing! Real feathers!
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[quote name=\'BMaurice06\' post=\'162820\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 02:40 PM\']
Let me clear some thing up:
1. I thought the 80s version was great, but not exactly the most solid in the world; that title I think belongs to Aussie Sale during the Tony Barber era. I just would have liked it more if the producer of Temptation came up with much harder material than just seemingly easy pop-culture questions.
2. I was not disparaging the fact that the Instant Bargain format; just merely believing that by putting equal emphasis on both the Q&A and prizes much as they do on Aussie Temptation the show would be perfect.
3. No, I have not see the Robin Leach pilot and if I did I wouldn't have liked it at all because it didn't have the Instant Bargains.
4. Chip Clips were bad and Double Whammies were good IMO.
Having said all of this, for you I will check out the preview and give Rossi a chance because he's a rookie.
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1. Outside of a few Speed Round clips, I've never seen the Aussie shows. Other than the theme, and the set (which the US borrowed from), what was different?
2. Again, the Q&A is irrelevant to the format. The basic structure of $ale/Temptation is to give correct answers to build money, so you can buy a reduced prize. It doesn't matter if they answer questions, or do the word game their going for. As long as I'm seeing the contestants earn the money to buy something, I'm cool.
3. Well...okay.
4. Well.........okay?
Oh, and like Dave said, please don't watch the show for me. You could chuck your TV out the window for all I care...watch the show for yourself.
/MyNetworkTV
//8 pm
///now up to 137 households!!!
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'162849\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 03:03 PM\']
1. Outside of a few Speed Round clips, I've never seen the Aussie shows. Other than the theme, and the set (which the US borrowed from), what was different?
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There are a couple of in-game mini-Speed-Rounds called Sprint Rounds, there are a couple of new weird Fame Game cards (the Burglar and the Turbo, if I remember rightly...Travis watches it more than I do and could probably tell us if some more stuff has been added), and Instant Cash has been replaced by the Temptation Vault (a random amount between $1 and...$5,000), and (again, when I was watching) cost a flat $10 to play.
Other'n that, it's straight Sale.
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/////wonders if his TV even knows HOW to tune to MyNetwork
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'162853\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 06:52 PM\']
...and Instant Cash has been replaced by the Temptation Vault (a random amount between $1 and...$5,000), and (again, when I was watching) cost a flat $10 to play.
[/quote]The clip on YouTube of day 1 said it was the lead (i.e. if ahead by $12, then it cost $12).
/still 138
EDIT: Obviously things have changed since day 1. Look down one post.
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I'll fill in the gaps even though I'm not Travis.
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'162853\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 06:52 PM\']
There are a couple of in-game mini-Speed-Rounds called Sprint Rounds, there are a couple of new weird Fame Game cards (the Burglar and the Turbo, if I remember rightly...[/quote]
And the Lock Out, which is used immediately to lock one person of the holder's choice for 3 questions.
and Instant Cash has been replaced by the Temptation Vault (a random amount between $1 and...$5,000), and (again, when I was watching) cost a flat $10 to play.
Up to AUS$10,000; and it costs $15 to play.
/Up to 141.
//Hello Topeka!
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'162855\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 03:57 PM\']
Up to AUS$10,000; and it costs $15 to play.
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Does Ed haggle on it? I remember at the start he didn't haggle on ANYTHING, and then I picked up some episodes a little later where he was making deals on the Gift Shops other than throwing cash on the pile.
/Houston, Hello!
//got nuthin'
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'162856\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 07:04 PM\']
[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'162855\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 03:57 PM\']
Up to AUS$10,000; and it costs $15 to play.[/quote]
Does Ed haggle on it?[/quote]
The only times I've seen Ed lower the price is when multiple contestants are tied for the lead.
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In my four-part response to BMaurice, I actually meant were there any gameplay differences between the Barber and Perry versions, but a quick Wiki search shows very minor differences. Mea culpa on that one.
/144
//Gross!
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'162860\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 06:36 PM\']
/144
//Gross!
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Teehee. Line O' the day?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'162856\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 04:04 PM\'][quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'162855\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 03:57 PM\']Up to AUS$10,000; and it costs $15 to play.[/quote]Does Ed haggle on it? I remember at the start he didn't haggle on ANYTHING, and then I picked up some episodes a little later where he was making deals on the Gift Shops other than throwing cash on the pile.[/quote]Out of the two years worth of episodes, I think I've seen him lower the price to $14 once, and one other time he threw in a previously passed-over gift shop item to entice the leader to have a go. I have not once seen a Dutch Auction for the Vault, since in either case someone was ready to play at the mention of "It'll cost you $15 to play..."
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[quote name=\'BMaurice06\' post=\'162768\' date=\'Sep 4 2007, 11:37 PM\']And to Mr. Chris Lemon, if you're going to doo-doo all over my opinions next time, try and be less harsh![/quote]Erm, why? Given my dealings with you on two separate message boards, you haven't given us anything that demonstrates you understand what makes a good game show. From memory, you thought High Rollers, Blockbusters and Card Sharks would be improved if each was infused with cash prizes at the most inappropriate of junctures. You shoveled heaps of cash onto Sale of the Century's cash jackpot, and then made it less special by making it easier to achieve by an average of one show all told. Not to mention "Instant Cash Fridays," the "Winner's Board of Cash" that followed up shopping, and <timpani> the Century Round.
I could go on. But I won't.
If you want to be taken seriously, say some intelligent things. No free rides. Until then, expect to be regularly eviscerated after you post, trying to convince us that Todd Newton should get another hosting job. (Though you still have a ways to go to catch that one guy who thought that Sale of the Century would be improved if the main game from Nickelodeon Arcade was layered on top of the former.)
[quote name=\'BMaurice06\' post=\'162820\' date=\'Sep 5 2007, 11:40 AM\']1. I thought the 80s version was great, but not exactly the most solid in the world; that title I think belongs to Aussie Sale during the Tony Barber era. I just would have liked it more if the producer of Temptation came up with much harder material than just seemingly easy pop-culture questions.[/quote]Maybe we were watching different shows, but the original American and original Australian shows were very similar. Watching the Australian show where that one guy has his Lot Run cracked, I saw gift shops, fame games, the "cash card," a speed round...by the numbers, it's what we had. I'm genuinely curious to find out what differences you saw.
4. Chip Clips were bad and Double Whammies were good IMO.
I don't think the Clip Chips were bad, as such. They didn't ruin the game in the way that "last card wins" did. But Double Whammies made an already silly game a caricature. For me, they were indefensible.