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Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: Kevin Prather on July 28, 2008, 12:10:09 AM

Does anybody know what font was used for the scoreboards in the '50s version of Twenty One?

Thanks in advance.

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: chris319 on July 28, 2008, 12:21:47 AM

Diodes and light bulbs.

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: Hastin on July 28, 2008, 03:55:12 AM

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'192344\' date=\'Jul 27 2008, 09:21 PM\']
Diodes and light bulbs.
[/quote]
A search for diodes (http://\"http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/mondosearchresults.htm?st=12&kid=Diodes\") and light bulbs (http://\"http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/mondosearchresults.htm?st=12&kid=%22light%20bulbs%22\") didn't produce anything. These had to be commonly downloadable fonts during the '50s...right?

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: clemon79 on July 28, 2008, 04:08:05 AM

[quote name=\'Hastin\' post=\'192356\' date=\'Jul 28 2008, 12:55 AM\']
A search for diodes (http://\"http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/mondosearchresults.htm?st=12&kid=Diodes\") and light bulbs (http://\"http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/mondosearchresults.htm?st=12&kid=%22light%20bulbs%22\") didn't produce anything. These had to be commonly downloadable fonts during the '50s...right[/quote]
I *almost* facepalmed. Then it hit me. (What can I say, it's late.)

So instead I offer this picture of Ted Knight wearing the worst-looking hat I've ever seen (http://\"http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/5874/judgesmells5caet7.jpg\").

/looks good on him, though

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: gwarman2005 on July 28, 2008, 04:46:32 AM

Did he get a free bowl of soup with that hat?

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: JayDLewis on July 28, 2008, 09:46:20 AM

[quote name=\'Kevin Prather\' post=\'192341\' date=\'Jul 27 2008, 11:10 PM\']
Does anybody know what font was used for the scoreboards in the '50s version of Twenty One?
[/quote]

Since it's more fun to snark than give an answer...

Obviously, it isn't a font. Look for Ryan Bugaj's "Display Field Guide"...there might be a font "based on" the scorebard.

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: Kevin Prather on July 28, 2008, 12:05:52 PM

I looked there. The closest I could find was the Ferranti Packer font. I figured it wasn't a modeled font, but perhaps one was emulated at some point? The reason I'm asking is that I'm making a Twenty One set recreation.

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: chris319 on July 28, 2008, 03:10:57 PM

Sorry, I read your post too quickly. The font was a made-up one for scoreboard displays. The technology was diodes and light bulbs. It is a 5 x 8 matrix, unlike the 5 x 7 used on TPIR etc. You should be able to emulate it fairly easily, but those displays are not a simple undertaking to build.

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: Kevin Prather on July 28, 2008, 08:22:22 PM

Thanks. That's what I needed to know.

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: Particleman on July 28, 2008, 08:30:01 PM

Kevin,

Contact me with some pics.  I can make that font for you.

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: Kevin Prather on July 28, 2008, 09:13:22 PM

[quote name=\'Particleman\' post=\'192505\' date=\'Jul 28 2008, 05:30 PM\']
Kevin,

Contact me with some pics.  I can make that font for you.
[/quote]
Thanks! I'll see what I can dummy up.

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: chris319 on July 28, 2008, 11:20:34 PM

I got the zero, one, two, six and eight from YouTube clips. I can send you some ASCII art. You can look through YouTube clips to see if you can find the remaining characters.

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: chris319 on July 29, 2008, 01:12:59 AM

Piece of shit goddamn fucking worthless In-fucking-vision software won't let me put up ASCII art in a monospaced font, even as code. I will email you with it.

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: clemon79 on July 29, 2008, 01:26:48 AM

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'192578\' date=\'Jul 28 2008, 10:12 PM\']
Piece of shit goddamn fucking worthless In-fucking-vision software won't let me put up ASCII art in a monospaced font, even as code. I will email you with it.
[/quote]

Sure it does.   0   0
See? 0   0  
All monospaced. 0   0
It's a pain in the ass, though.

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: chris319 on July 29, 2008, 01:31:25 AM

Do these look like the numerals on the Twenty One readouts? No, they sure as hell don't.

OOO
O   O
O   O
O   O
O   O
O   O
O   O
 OOO

 OO
  O
  O
  O
  O
  O
  O
 OOO

 OOO
O   O
O
   O
  O
 O
O
OOOOO

 OOO
O
O
OOOO
O   O
O   O
O   O
 OOO

 OOO
O   O
O   O
 OOO
O   O
O   O
O   O
 OOO

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: J.R. on July 29, 2008, 01:42:25 AM

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'192578\' date=\'Jul 29 2008, 12:12 AM\']Piece of shit goddamn fucking worthless In-fucking-vision software won't let me put up ASCII art in a monospaced font, even as code. I will email you with it.[/quote]
I nominate this Post Of The Year.

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on July 29, 2008, 03:26:25 AM

.  OOO
. O   O
. O   O
. O   O
. O   O
. O   O
. O   O
.  OOO

.  OO
.   O
.   O
.   O
.   O
.   O
.   O
.  OOO

.  OOO
. O   O
. O
. O
.   O
.  O
. O
. OOOOO

.  OOO
. O
. O
. OOOO
. O   O
. O   O
. O   O
.  OOO

.  OOO
. O   O
. O   O
.  OOO
. O   O
. O   O
. O   O
.  OOO

There.  Apparently, the first character in a line just needs to not be a space.  Certainly not an optimal solution, but it does work.

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: chris319 on July 29, 2008, 08:21:55 AM

If anyone comes across a clip of NBC Twenty One which shows the 3, 4, 5, 7 or 9, please post a link to it.

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: BrandonFG on July 29, 2008, 12:03:30 PM

[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'192585\' date=\'Jul 29 2008, 01:42 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'192578\' date=\'Jul 29 2008, 12:12 AM\']Piece of shit goddamn fucking worthless In-fucking-vision software won't let me put up ASCII art in a monospaced font, even as code. I will email you with it.[/quote]
I nominate this Post Of The Year.
[/quote]
Permission to make that my sig?

/Uncensored

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: chris319 on July 29, 2008, 02:50:29 PM

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'192606\' date=\'Jul 29 2008, 09:03 AM\']
[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'192585\' date=\'Jul 29 2008, 01:42 AM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'192578\' date=\'Jul 29 2008, 12:12 AM\']Piece of shit goddamn fucking worthless In-fucking-vision software won't let me put up ASCII art in a monospaced font, even as code. I will email you with it.[/quote]
I nominate this Post Of The Year.
[/quote]
Permission to make that my sig?

/Uncensored
[/quote]
Knock yourself out.

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: dazztardly on July 29, 2008, 03:59:41 PM

Marty's company did some work on the motion picture "Quiz Show". You can try dropping him a line.
http://www.perfectionelectronics.com (http://\"http://www.perfectionelectronics.com\")

-Dan Berger

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: Kevin Prather on July 29, 2008, 04:36:50 PM

Using the score displays and the dollar display, and Chris's help, I was able to make what I think is a pretty reasonable replica for all the numbers. I'm not sure I even need a font now. I think the pictures I made will work just fine. Thanks for all the help!

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: DrJWJustice on July 29, 2008, 08:07:46 PM

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'192578\' date=\'Jul 29 2008, 12:12 AM\']
Piece of shit goddamn fucking worthless In-fucking-vision software won't let me put up ASCII art in a monospaced font, even as code. I will email you with it.
[/quote]
George Carlin, may he rest in peace, would have been proud.

Title: Scoreboards on Twenty One
Post by: chris319 on July 29, 2008, 11:25:40 PM

[quote name=\'dazztardly\' post=\'192635\' date=\'Jul 29 2008, 12:59 PM\']
Marty's company did some work on the motion picture "Quiz Show". You can try dropping him a line.
http://www.perfectionelectronics.com (http://\"http://www.perfectionelectronics.com\")[/quote]
How did Marty get the character set for the movie? If he didn't get it from kinescopes then he just made them up and they may or not be true to the original.