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Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: chris319 on October 21, 2008, 03:02:33 PM
Excluding TPIR, what was the first daytime network game show to have episodes air more than once? We know that episodes of Classic Concentration were rerun, but was it the first?
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: tpirfan28 on October 21, 2008, 03:15:01 PM
According to Wikipedia (yeah, I know), The Magnificent Marble Machine. (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magnificent_Marble_Machine\")
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: Jimmy Owen on October 21, 2008, 03:19:29 PM
ABC's Let's Make a Deal would occassionally repeat and Jay Stewart recorded a disclaimer stating such.  While it was a primetime show,  "Celebrity Game" was also repeated on CBS Sunday afternoons two years after the initial run.

"Dream Girl" also repeated a handful of shows, if one includes that under the game show tent.
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: uncamark on October 21, 2008, 04:03:48 PM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'200163\' date=\'Oct 21 2008, 02:19 PM\']
ABC's Let's Make a Deal would occassionally repeat and Jay Stewart recorded a disclaimer stating such.  [/quote]

It seemed to me that at least one show a week out of the ratings periods (before I knew they were ratings periods) was a repeat, usually on Monday.  "LMAD" also seemed to have at least three or four repeat weeks a year.  Since I seem to have heard that they taped no more than two daytime shows in one day, if they taped two days a week that seems about right.
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: SRIV94 on October 21, 2008, 04:04:30 PM
Wasn't the only reason the 1966-67 daytime eps of PASSWORD were preserved was that they were earmarked for syndication?

I seem to recall that TJW eps being rerun was what paved the way for the series to be resurrected in 1977.\

And of course, GONG eps were rerun in a 5-day strip starting in 1978.

/And the countdown to 3500 ends.  :)
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: Ian Wallis on October 21, 2008, 06:10:28 PM
I believe it was on Steve Beverly's page at one time where he mentioned that some sort of strike in 1967 forced Newlywed Game and Password into reruns for a month.

Can't remember any more details than that, so you might want to take it with a grain of salt :)
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: Jimmy Owen on October 21, 2008, 06:54:18 PM
[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'200176\' date=\'Oct 21 2008, 06:10 PM\']
I believe it was on Steve Beverly's page at one time where he mentioned that some sort of strike in 1967 forced Newlywed Game and Password into reruns for a month.

Can't remember any more details than that, so you might want to take it with a grain of salt :)
[/quote]


I do remember that strike because ABC put in reruns of Inger Stevens' "The Farmer's Daughter" for a few days in place of one of their late afternoon soaps. A nice change, IMO.  Don't remember the games being pre-empted, so they must have been repeats.
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: DjohnsonCB on October 21, 2008, 07:01:11 PM
I would assume the honor to go to Shenanigans since it was Saturday daytime and they probably did only so many shows in 1964-65, only to have it last until the weekend before Christmas 1965.
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: Jimmy Owen on October 21, 2008, 07:05:38 PM
[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' post=\'200182\' date=\'Oct 21 2008, 07:01 PM\']
I would assume the honor to go to Shenanigans since it was Saturday daytime and they probably did only so many shows in 1964-65, only to have it last until the weekend before Christmas 1965.
[/quote]


 How many Runaround shows did they make for the 52 weeks they were on? 13? 26?
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: chris319 on October 21, 2008, 08:20:52 PM
If you typically tape four shows per week and have no returning contestants (and you're on ABC) it makes sense to do reruns every so often and take some time off, rather than bust your butt taping ahead. Especially if your emcee co-owns the show.
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: Eric Paddon on October 22, 2008, 06:12:14 PM
I don't see any indication of Password being affected by the AFTRA strike in 1967 that caused reruns to get plugged in, because the episode guides for daytime Password show an uninterrupted series of weeks.   The strike began on March 29, 1967 and every week of daytime Password that starts from that point on in the on-line episode guides are shows that GSN aired from the syndicated packages.

Some of the amusing things that happened during that AFTRA strike included ABC technicians being forced to do PBP for NBA playoff games, and an obscure nobody named Arnold Zinker I think being forced to do the CBS Evening News in place of Walter Cronkite.
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: bricon on October 22, 2008, 11:28:43 PM
[quote name=\'Eric Paddon\' post=\'200265\' date=\'Oct 22 2008, 05:12 PM\']
Some of the amusing things that happened during that AFTRA strike included ABC technicians being forced to do PBP for NBA playoff games, and an obscure nobody named Arnold Zinker I think being forced to do the CBS Evening News in place of Walter Cronkite.
[/quote]

Here's an article on Arnold Zenker (http://\"http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/04/opinion/04greene.html?_r=1&oref=slogin\").  

Based on what is said at the end of the article, I would absolutely love to hear Cronkite's opening on his first newscast back
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: DjohnsonCB on October 23, 2008, 12:22:10 AM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'200180\' date=\'Oct 21 2008, 05:54 PM\']
I do remember that strike because ABC put in reruns of Inger Stevens' "The Farmer's Daughter" for a few days in place of one of their late afternoon soaps. A nice change, IMO.  Don't remember the games being pre-empted, so they must have been repeats.
[/quote]

I remember looking forward to finally being able to see Snap Judgment one morning in 1967, only to have NBC bump it (strike related) for a rerun of The Life Of Riley.  What a revoltin' development THAT was.
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: Jimmy Owen on October 23, 2008, 03:33:21 AM
[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' post=\'200301\' date=\'Oct 23 2008, 12:22 AM\']

I remember looking forward to finally being able to see Snap Judgment one morning in 1967, only to have NBC bump it (strike related) for a rerun of The Life Of Riley.  What a revoltin' development THAT was.
[/quote]


My NBC station covered 10-10:30 with the last half hour of a movie anyway, but this must have been what filled the slot between the cancellation of Reach for the Stars and the debut of Snap.
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: chris319 on October 23, 2008, 04:19:02 AM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' post=\'200306\' date=\'Oct 23 2008, 12:33 AM\']
[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' post=\'200301\' date=\'Oct 23 2008, 12:22 AM\']

I remember looking forward to finally being able to see Snap Judgment one morning in 1967, only to have NBC bump it (strike related) for a rerun of The Life Of Riley.  What a revoltin' development THAT was.
[/quote]


My NBC station covered 10-10:30 with the last half hour of a movie anyway, but this must have been what filled the slot between the cancellation of Reach for the Stars and the debut of Snap.
[/quote]
And some of us were in school at the time, studying our readin', writin' and 'rithmetic.
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: Jimmy Owen on October 23, 2008, 09:09:56 AM
Yes, I was a student in 1967 as well, but the strike happened during an Easter/Spring vacation from school.
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: DrBear on October 23, 2008, 04:45:03 PM
[quote name=\'bricon\' post=\'200294\' date=\'Oct 22 2008, 10:28 PM\'] [quote name=\'Eric Paddon\' post=\'200265\' date=\'Oct 22 2008, 05:12 PM\']
Some of the amusing things that happened during that AFTRA strike included ABC technicians being forced to do PBP for NBA playoff games, and an obscure nobody named Arnold Zinker I think being forced to do the CBS Evening News in place of Walter Cronkite.
[/quote]

Here's an article on Arnold Zenker (http://\"http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/04/opinion/04greene.html?_r=1&oref=slogin\").

Based on what is said at the end of the article, I would absolutely love to hear Cronkite's opening on his first newscast back
[/quote]

Which reminds me of a classic David Brinkley story: the night after Barbara Walters made her much-hyped debut as an anchor on ABC, Brinkley started the NBC Nightly News with "Good evening...and welcome back."
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: GameShowGuru on October 23, 2008, 10:04:21 PM
I know this isn't the first by any stretch, but did Family Feud have a whole season of reruns in the 1993-94 season after Combs got the boot?  I was told that FF was on production hiatus for a full year until Dawson returned.
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: calliaume on October 25, 2008, 12:31:55 AM
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'200161\' date=\'Oct 21 2008, 02:15 PM\']
According to Wikipedia (yeah, I know), The Magnificent Marble Machine. (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magnificent_Marble_Machine\")
[/quote]
Also according to Wikipedia, The Money Maze (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Money_Maze\")[/i], and I can vouch for the last week of the run being reruns (and being ticked that they didn't get a chance to say goodbye).

But, judging from what I see here, I'd say the honor goes to Let's Make a Deal (if we discount Password's syndie reruns).
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: Scrabbleship on October 25, 2008, 08:27:57 AM
[quote name=\'GameShowGuru\' post=\'200352\' date=\'Oct 23 2008, 10:04 PM\']
I know this isn't the first by any stretch, but did Family Feud have a whole season of reruns in the 1993-94 season after Combs got the boot?  I was told that FF was on production hiatus for a full year until Dawson returned.
[/quote]

Feud didn't go on production hiatus after firing Combs, in fact when GSN was airing Combs episodes this time last year they began airing reruns from the 1993-94 season (such as the "1994 Super Bowl" week with NFL quarterbacks that was taped early on in the cycle).

The clearances for Feud by then were abysmal with many markets not picking up the show at all or airing in odd timeslots. Could the format changes in 1992 have hurt the show that much?

/ Still amazed the current version has outlasted Dawson in terms of pure length with all its instability.
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: ChrisLambert! on October 25, 2008, 09:17:58 AM
I doubt the format changes hurt, but rather simply failed to stop the bleeding.
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: aaron sica on October 25, 2008, 12:19:42 PM
[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'200445\' date=\'Oct 25 2008, 08:27 AM\']

The clearances for Feud by then were abysmal with many markets not picking up the show at all or airing in odd timeslots. Could the format changes in 1992 have hurt the show that much?
[/quote]

IIRC, WCAU-10 in Philly (then CBS) continued to air Family Feud (by now the syndie) in the 10am-11am timeslot. I even think I remember the TVG continuing to list it as "Family Feud Challenge".

WHTM-27 in Harrisburg stuck with the show, keeping it in the prime-access 7:30pm slot for the 1993-1994 season as well.
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: Scrabbleship on October 25, 2008, 01:19:36 PM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'200452\' date=\'Oct 25 2008, 12:19 PM\']
[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'200445\' date=\'Oct 25 2008, 08:27 AM\']

The clearances for Feud by then were abysmal with many markets not picking up the show at all or airing in odd timeslots. Could the format changes in 1992 have hurt the show that much?
[/quote]

IIRC, WCAU-10 in Philly (then CBS) continued to air Family Feud (by now the syndie) in the 10am-11am timeslot. I even think I remember the TVG continuing to list it as "Family Feud Challenge".

WHTM-27 in Harrisburg stuck with the show, keeping it in the prime-access 7:30pm slot for the 1993-1994 season as well.
[/quote]

I remember the "Family Feud Challenge" listing for syndie Feud showing up in TVG for WRAL in Raleigh too. When I first saw the listings for both I was wondering why they'd still be airing it but not WCBS.

As for New York, WWOR was airing it in the 4:00-5:00 hour and somehow it was syndex-proof and was one of the few shows to be on the local and EMI Service feeds. Helped some markets nearby markets get Feud such as Albany (no clearance) and Hartford (where WVIT dropped it at the end of 1993 in favor of a relocated Vicki!).
Title: Daytime Network Reruns
Post by: HYHYBT on November 01, 2008, 09:25:08 PM
They *did* have a rerun-run that season, to pair with the new episodes to make an hour; that may have something to do with the confusion.