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From Yahoo! News: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081219/tv_nm/us_gsn (http://\"http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081219/tv_nm/us_gsn\")
GSN pledged to "Newlywed Game" revival
By Kimberly Nordyke
LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) – GSN is moving forward with its revival of "The Newlywed Game," targeting a spring premiere for the classic show.
The cable channel -- formerly known as Game Show Network -- has ordered 40 half-hour episodes from executive producer Michael Davies, the man behind "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire." Shooting will begin next February in New York, and the show will air weekdays.
The series, in which newly married couples answer questions to find out how well they know each other, has appeared in many incarnations since its bow on ABC in 1966.
Davies said the show will be updated in an organic way.
"Marriage has changed over the years -- what couples talk about, what they fight about," said Davies. "So there will be a lot of updating just by the fact of our casting. In doing presentations, it's become clear to us that wives today are far more vocal than in the previous episodes. There's just a lot of guys looking concerned that they're about to get in trouble -- and usually they do. It's thoroughly entertaining."
Davies added that he's also casting for what he calls "goldyweds" -- couples who appeared on the original show -- to compete against the newlyweds. Like the original, the new show will feature couples who have been married for two years or less.
Announcements on the show's host and prize are expected shortly, but Davies did say the prize possibly will hearken back to the show's original "second honeymoon."
"The show has really good, original brand value," he said. "It's a fun, funny game where it doesn't matter who wins; it's about the material."
Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
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Hmm. Shouldn't that be moved over to the GSN subforum? Just saying.
Interesting how Davies labels the couples that appeared on the 70's version "goldyweds". I thought it looked like it was seeking couples who have been married for at least 50 years.
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I wonder who the host is. Are they going with the lady that was mentioned a few months back (Judy Gold, I think)?
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[quote name=\'BillCullen1\' post=\'204146\' date=\'Dec 19 2008, 10:31 AM\']
I wonder who the host is. Are they going with the lady that was mentioned a few months back (Judy Gold, I think)?
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Wasn't she going to host "TDG?" I don't think they had announced a host for "TNG" yet.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' post=\'204149\' date=\'Dec 19 2008, 12:01 PM\']
[quote name=\'BillCullen1\' post=\'204146\' date=\'Dec 19 2008, 10:31 AM\']
I wonder who the host is. Are they going with the lady that was mentioned a few months back (Judy Gold, I think)?
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Wasn't she going to host "TDG?" I don't think they had announced a host for "TNG" yet.
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Kim Coles was going to host TDG. TNG pilot was hosted by Judy Gold.
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Whereabouts in New York, Kaufman Astoia Studios?
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[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' post=\'204117\' date=\'Dec 19 2008, 04:01 AM\']
Hmm. Shouldn't that be moved over to the GSN subforum? Just saying.
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It's news regarding a new game show, so why not post it in the main forum?
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Announcements on the show's host and prize are expected shortly, but Davies did say the prize possibly will hearken back to the show's original "second honeymoon."
This is just a miniscule nitpick, but didn't the original show just offer furniture, or did they offer both?
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[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'206209\' date=\'Jan 14 2009, 02:49 PM\']
Announcements on the show's host and prize are expected shortly, but Davies did say the prize possibly will hearken back to the show's original "second honeymoon."
This is just a miniscule nitpick, but didn't the original show just offer furniture, or did they offer both?[/quote]
Both. With trip episodes, it normally started with travel equipment (eg luggage) and then Bob would announce that they would be taking said stuff to some gag place in California before revealing that it was a legitmate trip.
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[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'206209\' date=\'Jan 14 2009, 02:49 PM\']
Announcements on the show's host and prize are expected shortly, but Davies did say the prize possibly will hearken back to the show's original "second honeymoon."
This is just a miniscule nitpick, but didn't the original show just offer furniture, or did they offer both?
[/quote]The show offered a prize selected by the couple. Might have been appliances, furniture, or in some cases, it was a second honeymoon.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'206224\' date=\'Jan 14 2009, 04:13 PM\']]The show offered a prize selected by the couple. Might have been appliances, furniture, or in some cases, it was a second honeymoon.
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Am I right to assume that all of the couples in a particular show selected the same prize?
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[quote name=\'WhammyPower\' post=\'206227\' date=\'Jan 14 2009, 02:34 PM\']
Am I right to assume that all of the couples in a particular show selected the same prize?[/quote]
Yes.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'206231\' date=\'Jan 14 2009, 05:39 PM\']
[quote name=\'WhammyPower\' post=\'206227\' date=\'Jan 14 2009, 02:34 PM\']
Am I right to assume that all of the couples in a particular show selected the same prize?[/quote]
Yes.
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Isn't it odd that the same production company which had anywhere from 30 to 64 different prize scenarios at the ready on every "New Treasure Hunt" couldn't have four different prize packages ready on the fly for "Newlywed"? :)
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I may be opening a can of worms here, but I can't believe that Treasure Hunt truly had 30 or 64 prizes on hand. Wouldn't have it been easier to have one box pegged as the winner, and the others were pegged to a handful of other results (i.e.: 2, 7, 11, 13, 18 and 22 would have the same result). I'm not accusing, just find it hard to believe.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'206250\' date=\'Jan 14 2009, 08:48 PM\']
I may be opening a can of worms here, but I can't believe that Treasure Hunt truly had 30 or 64 prizes on hand.[/quote]
Oh, I would agree, especially in the 80s version. With that many boxes, you'd figure we'd see that TV and vacuum combo a little less. I would believe they had that many *skits* (but not be shocked that was false as well)l, but definitely not that many different prizes.
-Jason
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'206270\' date=\'Jan 14 2009, 09:45 PM\']
I would believe they had that many *skits*[/quote]
Really? I bet they had far fewer skits than they did prizes. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if they had *two* skits locked and loaded - one clunk, one not - regardless of the selection (save for a check, of course), and they just modded the prize one a little to fit with whatever prizes they wanted to give away.
Of course if someone wants to hop online and get their ass whipped at UT2 (maybe he's upgraded to 3 by now, I dunno), I bet Geoff would be able to tell us... :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'206274\' date=\'Jan 15 2009, 02:37 AM\']
[quote name=\'JasonA1\' post=\'206270\' date=\'Jan 14 2009, 09:45 PM\']
I would believe they had that many *skits*[/quote]
Really? I bet they had far fewer skits than they did prizes. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if they had *two* skits locked and loaded - one clunk, one not - regardless of the selection (save for a check, of course), and they just modded the prize one a little to fit with whatever prizes they wanted to give away.
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That would be very interesting to find out. One other thing I'm curious about is the ratio of prizes (both physical prizes and cash prizes) to clunks -- primarily in the New Treasure Hunt days.
Back then there were fewer boxes to pick from, there was more than just one check available on the selection floor (there was the $25K check, plus smaller checks of varied amounts), the prizes and the klunks. I think it would be safe to assume then that all boxes had all different prizes, and most likely all different skits.
Forward to the 80's Treasure Hunt, the producers probably did duplicate some prizes and skits since the number of boxes increased and now there was only one "progressive jackpot" check in play -- smaller checks were eliminated.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'206285\' date=\'Jan 15 2009, 06:41 AM\']
I think it would be safe to assume then that all boxes had all different prizes, and most likely all different skits. [/quote]
This is Chuck Barris, the brains behind "a prize picked especially for you." I don't think that's a safe assumption at all. It might be the case, but I'm not going to make that leap.
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I'm gonna plead some degree of ignorance here--the few TH episodes I've actually watched (and I'd love to see more) it seems the klunks were just a setup for the real prize.
Were there people who only got klunked?
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'206291\' date=\'Jan 15 2009, 08:35 AM\']
Were there people who only got klunked?[/quote]
Oh yes.
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I'm suddenly intrigued by all this speculation about the Treasure Hunt boxes.
I'm remembering two things in particular. (Well, three if you could the brightly colored leotard/miniskirt combos the models wore...) Over and over, and many years after the fact, we've heard stories from Chuckie Baby and from Geoff himself about having to be ready for dozens and dozens of possible skits. Certainly Barris has a reputation for making stuff up, but if that's something that's NOT true, it's a legend that has survived without any real evidence to the contrary.
I'd also wonder how S&P would figure into all of this. If there were fewer skits than boxes, and only, say, half a dozen prize packages, as long as S&P knew about it, would it matter that the audience is being led to believe that there was something different in every box?
The other thing I always remember is that at the end of the skit, Geoff would show us the empty box, proving that there was nothing left inside. I always thought that was a little silly since there was a commercial break between the contestant's selection and the reveal, time enough to put in or take out whatever they wanted.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'206304\' date=\'Jan 15 2009, 10:02 AM\']
I'd also wonder how S&P would figure into all of this. If there were fewer skits than boxes, and only, say, half a dozen prize packages, as long as S&P knew about it, would it matter that the audience is being led to believe that there was something different in every box?[/quote]
Not in the least. If the S&P guy has a sheet of paper that says "If the player picks Box 2, 7, 12, 18, 26, or 32, they win X", then the rest is chrome and I have not one single problem with that. I don't ever remember them promising anything other than that one box held Emile Autori's check, which was absolutely true.
The other thing I always remember is that at the end of the skit, Geoff would show us the empty box, proving that there was nothing left inside. I always thought that was a little silly since there was a commercial break between the contestant's selection and the reveal, time enough to put in or take out whatever they wanted.
Never mind that: it would be even easier to fill the boxes before the show: Prize Boxes get the Prize Prop, a beret or whatever, and the Clunk Boxes get whatever rubber chicken or what have you they're using for that skit. They could buy in bulk. :)
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Whatever you do, stay away from boxes 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42.
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Then how do they address the problem of the same skit being chosen twice in a show?
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[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'206313\' date=\'Jan 15 2009, 11:31 AM\']
Then how do they address the problem of the same skit being chosen twice in a show?[/quote]
Good point. Which makes the likelihood of Matt's suggestion that they just pre-load the prop in the box during the break all the more likely. One skit for the first half, one for the second half. Boom, done.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'206314\' date=\'Jan 15 2009, 01:35 PM\']
[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'206313\' date=\'Jan 15 2009, 11:31 AM\']
Then how do they address the problem of the same skit being chosen twice in a show?[/quote]
Good point. Which makes the likelihood of Matt's suggestion that they just pre-load the prop in the box during the break all the more likely. One skit for the first half, one for the second half. Boom, done.
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I must be missing something. Wouldn't that insinuate that whoever plays game 1 gets "x" prize no matter which box they pick (unless they pick the box with the check), and whoever plays game 2 gets "y" prize?
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'206310\' date=\'Jan 15 2009, 01:53 PM\']
Whatever you do, stay away from boxes 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42.[/quote]
They're just numbers, Hurley.
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'206315\' date=\'Jan 15 2009, 02:39 PM\']I must be missing something. Wouldn't that insinuate that whoever plays game 1 gets "x" prize no matter which box they pick (unless they pick the box with the check), and whoever plays game 2 gets "y" prize?[/quote]
This is basically the extreme example of what we're talking about, but theoretically, if it's OK for there to be fewer skits than boxes, then taking that to the limit, it's theoretically OK to have ONE skit. As long as there's something else, even a one in 64 chance, then there's a game.
Again, without evidence to the contrary, all we really have is the repeated word of Barris and Edwards that there actually WERE all those different skits for all those different boxes. Everything else is just our speculation.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'206320\' date=\'Jan 15 2009, 11:49 AM\']
This is basically the extreme example of what we're talking about, but theoretically, if it's OK for there to be fewer skits than boxes, then taking that to the limit, it's theoretically OK to have ONE skit.[/quote]
I wasn't going quite that far. I was thinking that considering how tenuously connected the skits were to the prizes anyhow, it would be easy to have a single skit, and then five or six prizes to segue to from that skit.
Again, without evidence to the contrary, all we really have is the repeated word of Barris and Edwards that there actually WERE all those different skits for all those different boxes. Everything else is just our speculation.
Absolutely.
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That would be very interesting to find out. One other thing I'm curious about is the ratio of prizes (both physical prizes and cash prizes) to clunks -- primarily in the New Treasure Hunt days.
It seems there more more clunks on the '80s version than on the '70s - based on what I've seen of the '80s version (pretty well everything GSN aired) plus what I remember from the '70s (and what I've traded for over the years). I guess the fact that the '80s version was five-a-week probably had something to do with it. I'm sure they couldn't afford to give away as much per show as they did on the '70s version.
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[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'206313\' date=\'Jan 15 2009, 11:31 AM\']
Then how do they address the problem of the same skit being chosen twice in a show?[/quote]
I would assume you'd switch out the duplicate box's contents with something new. Much like what would happen if the big check is won in round one -- choose another box for round two, replace props with new $25K check. I would also hazard a guess that a klunk would replace another klunk and a good prize or $25K check would replace another good prize.
I thought I had remembered Geoff Edwards telling us at GSC8 over the phone that between rounds and/or shows, there would be a curtain that would come down blocking the audience's view of the boxes so they can make any necessary switches...Much like on TPiR when they bring down one of the many overhead signs/screens/etc.. to prevent the audience from seeing what game/prizes they are rolling out next.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'206304\' date=\'Jan 15 2009, 10:02 AM\']only, say, half a dozen prize packages, as long as S&P knew about it, would it matter that the audience is being led to believe that there was something different in every box?[/quote]Were we ever told that there were however many different prize packages?
I don't know how spacious the backstage area was for Treasure Hunt, but I don't know how they'd fit fourteen different prizes there, knowing that at most two of them might get pulled out for display. It would make sense to say that a couple of boxes would have the luxury car, a handful would have a spiffy trip, and the rest of the "good ones" would have the roomful of furniture, rather than charting out each different prize package.
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'206310\' date=\'Jan 15 2009, 01:53 PM\']
Whatever you do, stay away from boxes 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42.
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That's Numberwang!
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'206383\' date=\'Jan 15 2009, 10:15 PM\']
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'206304\' date=\'Jan 15 2009, 10:02 AM\']only, say, half a dozen prize packages, as long as S&P knew about it, would it matter that the audience is being led to believe that there was something different in every box?[/quote]Were we ever told that there were however many different prize packages?
I don't know how spacious the backstage area was for Treasure Hunt, but I don't know how they'd fit fourteen different prizes there, knowing that at most two of them might get pulled out for display. It would make sense to say that a couple of boxes would have the luxury car, a handful would have a spiffy trip, and the rest of the "good ones" would have the roomful of furniture, rather than charting out each different prize package.
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I never went to a taping of Treasure Hunt, but is it possible that when they showed the contestant the "possible prizes she could win," those were taped in advance? I know at the '78 version of High Rollers, which I did see in person, all the prizes were recorded in advance. The actual game play and the "big numbers" round were done live to tape.
IIRC, I heard Geoff say in a phone interview that that 70s TH had a "different skit for each box." Don't know about the 80s version. He said he had to memorize all the skits, since they couldn't use cue cards because that would tip off the contestant.
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I never went to a taping of Treasure Hunt, but is it possible that when they showed the contestant the "possible prizes she could win," those were taped in advance?
If they were taped in advance they were taped with the contestant there. Some of the shots they used showed Geoff, the contestant and the possible prizes in the same shot. Also, some of the possible prizes involved contestant interaction - like when they'd bring a fur coat close so she could even touch in on occasion.
I think they pre-loaded the three possible prizes behind each curtain, and if the contestant picked one of those boxes they were all set. During the tape stopdown while Geoff was briefed, then they'd roll in the new prize behind one of the curtains. There still likely could have been fewer than 30 (or 66) though.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' post=\'206429\' date=\'Jan 16 2009, 12:22 PM\']
I think they pre-loaded the three possible prizes behind each curtain, and if the contestant picked one of those boxes they were all set. During the tape stopdown while Geoff was briefed, then they'd roll in the new prize behind one of the curtains. There still likely could have been fewer than 30 (or 66) though.
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I'm going off 30-year-old memories here, but it seems to me contestants would rarely win one of the previewed prizes, that usually they won a different car or something not shown. Does this gibe with others' impressions? I recall wondering for the longest time what the "added surprises" that came with cars would be. (It was motor oil or Ram golf clubs, right?)
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Carnie Wilson will host.