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Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: tpirfan28 on September 18, 2009, 05:46:51 PM
From TMZ (http://\"http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/18/bob-barker-price-is-right-lawsuit-deborah-curling/\")
Slightly more detailed article about it (http://\"http://www.popeater.com/article/lawsuit-against-barker-price-is-right/676962?icid=sphere_tmzcom_inline\")
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: pentellit on September 18, 2009, 06:10:11 PM
No, the case is not over and contrary to the headline proclaiming "Bob Barker Not A Racist, Just Rules" (who the hell is "just"?), Barker's alleged racism was not even addressed in today's ruling.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: chris319 on September 18, 2009, 06:20:09 PM
[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'226382\' date=\'Sep 18 2009, 03:10 PM\']No, the case is not over and contrary to the headline proclaiming "Bob Barker Not A Racist, Just Rules" (who the hell is "just"?), Barker's alleged racism was not even addressed in today's ruling.[/quote]
Of course it wasn't addressed in today's ruling. Judge Mackey threw the case out.

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Curling's attorney, Nick Alden, vowed to appeal the ruling.
Her lawsuit is finished unless they can get another judge to reverse the ruling on appeal. Good luck.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: Mr. Brown on September 18, 2009, 06:21:48 PM
The last I had heard, the judge dismissed all of the charges against Barker & the show, except for one, and I apologize for not remembering what exactly wasn't dismissed.

Obviously, today the trial judge threw the whole thing out. From what I'm seeing in the article, considering I have not been down to the L.A. County court house (ever), Curling's attorney is claiming that CBS/Fremantle/Barker didn't respond to his discovery requests in order for him to pursue a fruitful lawsuit against them... my bet is his appeal will be based solely on the discovery request alone.

That's not much to base an appeal on, especially if he didn't make any allegations of non-cooperation during the trial.

Of course, I haven't followed it as closely as some have, and certainly don't know all of the facts - I've just read her initial petition and the few news stories that have followed.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: pentellit on September 18, 2009, 06:30:19 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'226386\' date=\'Sep 18 2009, 03:20 PM\'][quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'226382\' date=\'Sep 18 2009, 03:10 PM\']No, the case is not over and contrary to the headline proclaiming "Bob Barker Not A Racist, Just Rules" (who the hell is "just"?), Barker's alleged racism was not even addressed in today's ruling.[/quote]
Of course it wasn't addressed in today's ruling. Judge Mackey threw the case out.

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Curling's attorney, Nick Alden, vowed to appeal the ruling.
Her lawsuit is finished unless they can get another judge to reverse the ruling on appeal. Good luck.
[/quote]
So if it wasn't addressed in the ruling, where did they get the "Barker Not A Racist, Just Rules"?

/Barker being reversed on appeal is exactly how Holly got her Million$.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: chris319 on September 18, 2009, 06:35:05 PM
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/Reversed on appeal is exactly how Holly got her Million$.
I believe Holly had filed a countersuit, which she won. This judge simply threw the whole case out. There was no countersuit AFAIK.

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Judge Malcolm Mackey dismissed the case after finding there were no issues for a trial to resolve
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: pentellit on September 18, 2009, 06:40:09 PM
So if it wasn't addressed in the ruling, where did they get the "Barker Not A Racist, Just Rules"?
...wink, wink ;)
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: chris319 on September 18, 2009, 06:55:02 PM
[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'226393\' date=\'Sep 18 2009, 03:40 PM\']So if it wasn't addressed in the ruling, where did they get the "Barker Not A Racist, Just Rules"?
...wink, wink ;)[/quote]
They had to put something in their headline. A headline is not legally binding or even part of the proceedings.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: pentellit on September 18, 2009, 07:54:24 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'226395\' date=\'Sep 18 2009, 03:55 PM\']A headline is not legally binding or even part of the proceedings.[/quote]
Good thing too, because that headline is totally false and misleading.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: chris319 on September 18, 2009, 08:26:00 PM
The TMZ headline as written doesn't make sense. It looks like a mistake to me. "Bob Barker Not Racist, Judge Rules" would make sense.

[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'226401\' date=\'Sep 18 2009, 04:54 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'226395\' date=\'Sep 18 2009, 03:55 PM\']A headline is not legally binding or even part of the proceedings.[/quote]
Good thing too, because that headline is totally false and misleading.
[/quote]
It's misleading but not for the reasons you probably think. The judge didn't rule on anything. He threw the case out.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: pentellit on September 18, 2009, 09:38:46 PM
That's exactly what I think, that the judge didn't rule on anything however the headline implies that there was a ruling that "Bob Barker Not Racist" which is totally false and definitely misleading.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: Thunder on September 18, 2009, 10:43:16 PM
Denial? Check.

Anger? Check.

Bargaining? Check.

>>>

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Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: chris319 on September 18, 2009, 11:07:55 PM
[quote name=\'pentellit\' post=\'226409\' date=\'Sep 18 2009, 06:38 PM\']That's exactly what I think, that the judge didn't rule on anything however the headline implies that there was a ruling that "Bob Barker Not Racist" which is totally false and definitely misleading.[/quote]
Right you are.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: NickS on September 19, 2009, 01:07:42 AM
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'226402\' date=\'Sep 18 2009, 07:26 PM\']The TMZ headline as written doesn't make sense. It looks like a mistake to me. "Bob Barker Not Racist, Judge Rules" would make sense.[/quote]

I think we're looking at a case of "HEY WE'RE TMZ WE CAN MAKE A FUNNY HEADLINE AND THINK WE'RE JOURNALISTS WHEN WE'RE GLORIFIED BLOGGERS."  Other than aggregating the story, I'm considering the source that aggregated it and then take a pound of Kosher salt with it.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: chris319 on September 19, 2009, 06:59:22 AM
Here is the straight reportage version:

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Judge Malcolm Mackey dismissed the case after finding there were no issues for a trial to resolve
And here is the wacky TMZ version which is totally at odds with the above version:

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ruling the claim by a former black show employee that Barker tolerated racism was bogus.
To me it doesn't sound like he ruled one way or the other -- he just threw the case out.

TMZ version:
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a former black show employee
She must have the same skin pigment affliction Michael Jackson had.

"a black former show employee". See, I'm too smart to work on TMZ.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: pentellit on September 19, 2009, 09:29:29 AM
QUOTE chris319

     "She must have the same skin pigment affliction Michael Jackson had."

I am ROTFL!
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: davemackey on September 19, 2009, 09:36:06 PM
[quote name=\'TeppanYaki\' post=\'226429\' date=\'Sep 19 2009, 01:07 AM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'226402\' date=\'Sep 18 2009, 07:26 PM\']The TMZ headline as written doesn't make sense. It looks like a mistake to me. "Bob Barker Not Racist, Judge Rules" would make sense.[/quote]

I think we're looking at a case of "HEY WE'RE TMZ WE CAN MAKE A FUNNY HEADLINE AND THINK WE'RE JOURNALISTS WHEN WE'RE GLORIFIED BLOGGERS."  Other than aggregating the story, I'm considering the source that aggregated it and then take a pound of Kosher salt with it.
[/quote]
TMZ is really perfecting what Gawker, Defamer and Hecklerspray started.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: Mr. Armadillo on September 21, 2009, 09:53:42 AM
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'226436\' date=\'Sep 19 2009, 05:59 AM\']TMZ version:
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a former black show employee
She must have the same skin pigment affliction Michael Jackson had.

"a black former show employee". See, I'm too smart to work on TMZ.
[/quote]
No, no no.  "Black" in their version is obviously modifying the word "Show", not "Employee", which makes perfect sense because, as we all know, The Price is Right was originally in black and white!

/Aren't we all too smart for TMZ?
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: tvmitch on September 21, 2009, 11:27:12 AM
[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'226571\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 09:53 AM\']/Aren't we all too smart for TMZ?[/quote]
Yes, but. Their nightly half-hour show, as far as entertainment news shows go, is consistently funny and works well with my short attention span. My wife was a big fan of Access Hollywood and ET and other crap shows like that for her celebrity news fix, and the TMZ show is 10x more palatable and less self-important than any of those shows.

Take that as you will...TMZ certainly isn't the smartest show on TV, but I think it will be around for awhile.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 21, 2009, 11:46:35 AM
[quote name=\'tvmitch\' post=\'226574\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 11:27 AM\']Take that as you will...TMZ certainly isn't the smartest show on TV, but I think it will be around for awhile.[/quote]
It's a guilty pleasure in our house as well.  As I've said before, while the uninformed use "TMZ" as an easy punch line, they do what they do very well.  In the particular case we're talking about, yeah, the headline writer didn't get it exactly right (both for content and the just/judge typo) but in general, their people are every bit as careful about "getting it right" as any other media outlet.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: Don Howard on September 21, 2009, 11:56:38 AM
[quote name=\'tvmitch\' post=\'226574\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 11:27 AM\']ET and other crap shows[/quote]
ET went to hell when they dumped Tom Hallick.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: chad1m on September 21, 2009, 12:45:29 PM
I thought TMZ got their headline right. I think they were trying to say that Barker rules, as in he's awesome. Throw a "he" in there and it makes more sense. "Bob Barker Not Racist, He Just Rules."

And I agree that when it comes to "real" celebrity news, they're pretty darn good. I mean, they did break the MJ death story.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 21, 2009, 12:52:44 PM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'226581\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 12:45 PM\']I thought TMZ got their headline right. I think they were trying to say that Barker rules, as in he's awesome. Throw a "he" in there and it makes more sense. "Bob Barker Not Racist, He Just Rules."[/quote]
Possible, I guess.  Seems a pretty bad miscalculation, though, since hardly any of us saw it that way.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: clemon79 on September 21, 2009, 01:13:01 PM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'226581\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 09:45 AM\']I thought TMZ got their headline right. I think they were trying to say that Barker rules, as in he's awesome. Throw a "he" in there and it makes more sense. "Bob Barker Not Racist, He Just Rules."[/quote]
Tell me you're joking.

That might have been how it slipped past the proofreaders, and I was right up there with the TMZ bashers, but considering that people I respect have been defending them as a semi-valid news source, I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that was indeed a typo and not the Onion-esque headline that it sounds like in its native form.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: chad1m on September 21, 2009, 01:39:12 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'226585\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 01:13 PM\']Tell me you're joking.[/quote]Considering other things they've written about him (http://\"http://www.tmz.com/2009/04/16/boob-barker-come-on-down/\") ("Boob Barker - Come on Down! There used to be a pricing game on 'The Price Is Right' called 'Pick-a-Pair' -- and yesterday at a book signing in Hollywood, Bob Barker proved he can still play."), No, Mister Lemon, I am not joking.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: clemon79 on September 21, 2009, 04:13:31 PM
[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'226587\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 10:39 AM\']No, Mister Lemon, I am not joking.[/quote]
'Cept this one isn't nearly as titillating. (As it were.)

So either a) you think the TMZ people are complete sensationalist hacks (which is possible), or b) you think someone at G-R works over at TMZ. :)
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: davemackey on September 21, 2009, 05:53:43 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'226578\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 11:56 AM\'][quote name=\'tvmitch\' post=\'226574\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 11:27 AM\']ET and other crap shows[/quote]
ET went to hell when they dumped Tom Hallick.
[/quote]
The Ron Hendren years.... bliss...
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: aaron sica on September 21, 2009, 07:15:25 PM
[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'226607\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 05:53 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'226578\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 11:56 AM\'][quote name=\'tvmitch\' post=\'226574\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 11:27 AM\']ET and other crap shows[/quote]
ET went to hell when they dumped Tom Hallick.
[/quote]
The Ron Hendren years.... bliss...
[/quote]

I'm partial to Dixie Whatley myself...
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: BrandonFG on September 21, 2009, 07:38:42 PM
[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'226607\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 05:53 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'226578\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 11:56 AM\'][quote name=\'tvmitch\' post=\'226574\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 11:27 AM\']ET and other crap shows[/quote]
ET went to hell when they dumped Tom Hallick.
[/quote]
The Ron Hendren years.... bliss...
[/quote]
With the Mike Brady fro or the feather look?
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: Don Howard on September 21, 2009, 08:40:29 PM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'226616\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 07:38 PM\'][quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'226607\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 05:53 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'226578\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 11:56 AM\'][quote name=\'tvmitch\' post=\'226574\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 11:27 AM\']ET and other crap shows[/quote]
ET went to hell when they dumped Tom Hallick.
[/quote]
The Ron Hendren years.... bliss...
[/quote]
With the Mike Brady fro or the feather look?
[/quote]
The fro. Most certainly the fro rocked the 1981 world. Too bad Mario Machado was dumped at the last minute to bring Ron in.
Title: Curling Lawsuit Thrown Out...
Post by: TimK2003 on September 22, 2009, 07:43:42 PM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' post=\'226613\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 07:15 PM\'][quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'226607\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 05:53 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'226578\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 11:56 AM\'][quote name=\'tvmitch\' post=\'226574\' date=\'Sep 21 2009, 11:27 AM\']ET and other crap shows[/quote]
ET went to hell when they dumped Tom Hallick.
[/quote]
The Ron Hendren years.... bliss...
[/quote]

I'm partial to Dixie Whatley myself...
[/quote]

Dixie should've kicked Mary Hart's a$$ when she had the chance!

/OB Game shows:  Dixie was a contestant on the 70's version of "Break The Bank".