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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Don Howard on January 05, 2010, 11:16:49 AM
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How many U.S. game shows which have been nationally syndicated (and never shown as part of a non-cable television network line-up in any incarnation of their existence) were renewed for a second season?
The only three I could come up with were Face The Music, Bullseye and The $1,000,000 Chance Of A Lifetime.
Are there others? If so, what others can you think of? Thank you.
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The $128,000 Question
The Cross-Wits
JD
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The $1.98 Beauty Show
3rd Degree
Break the Bank (1985)
The Challengers
The Cheap Show
Couch Potatoes
The Diamond Head Game
The Game Game
The Guinness Game
...and many more. (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:First-run_syndicated_television_programs_in_the_United_States\")
Don: can you change the font size on that signature? It's really distracting to see that in every one of your posts.
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[quote name=\'colonial\' post=\'233607\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 11:25 AM\']The $128,000 Question
The Cross-Wits[/quote]
Cross-Wits is a good one, but taking Don's rule of "in any incarnation of their existence" seriously, $128K doesn't work.
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[quote name=\'jmangin\' post=\'233608\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 11:26 AM\']The $1.98 Beauty Show
3rd Degree
Break the Bank (1985)
The Challengers
The Cheap Show
Couch Potatoes
The Diamond Head Game
The Game Game
The Guinness Game
...and many more. (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:First-run_syndicated_television_programs_in_the_United_States\")[/quote]
Me thinks you did not read the title question correctly, since none of your choices made it to a 2nd season.
Edit: Fun House was syndicated for 2 seasons before it went network....... is that the only time that's happened?
Tyshaun
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[quote name=\'jmangin\' post=\'233608\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 11:26 AM\']The $1.98 Beauty Show
3rd Degree
Break the Bank (1985)
The Challengers
The Cheap Show
Couch Potatoes
The Diamond Head Game
The Game Game
The Guinness Game[/quote]
Pretty sure all of these were no more than a single season, and Challengers, of course, had an earlier incarnation.
"In any incarnation" is the tricky part, so multi-year shows like PDQ or It's Your Bet don't count either.
I've got Liar's Club and Dealer's Choice.
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[quote name=\'jmangin\' post=\'233608\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 11:26 AM\']Don: can you change the font size on that signature? It's really distracting to see that in every one of your posts.[/quote]
Done. And shame on me for forgetting The Cross-Wits. That was the longest-running one of them all.
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Surprisingly enough, $1.98 did run two seasons.
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' post=\'233610\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 11:32 AM\']Me thinks you did not read the title question correctly...[/quote]
Sorry--my mistake!
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Would Street Smarts count in this survey?
Ryan.
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[quote name=\'vtown7\' post=\'233635\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 01:52 PM\']Would Street Smarts count in this survey?
Ryan.[/quote]
Can't see why not. Don't forget Freakin' Studs.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'tyshaun1\' post=\'233610\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 11:32 AM\']Edit: Fun House was syndicated for 2 seasons before it went network....... is that the only time that's happened?[/quote]Sports Challenge originally aired in syndication before going to a brief network run in, I believe, 1973.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'233637\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 02:00 PM\'][quote name=\'tyshaun1\' post=\'233610\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 11:32 AM\']Edit: Fun House was syndicated for 2 seasons before it went network....... is that the only time that's happened?[/quote]Sports Challenge originally aired in syndication before going to a brief network run in, I believe, 1973.[/quote]
Also taking the "any incarnation" thing literally, PDQ was a syndicated show, and a few years later, they put it on NBC as Baffle.
Depending on your flavor of "game show", American Gladiators was a syndicated program that much later became a network offering.
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[quote name=\'jmangin\' post=\'233608\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 11:26 AM\']Break the Bank (1985)
The Challengers
Don: can you change the font size on that signature? It's really distracting to see that in every one of your posts.[/quote]
I thought BtB was part of CBS' Lineup as was Challengers on NBC with a late-day on syn. ( I saw it also on WWOR9 for a bit)
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Merv Griffin's Crosswords was originally slated to join the list until production got suspended, then ultimately cancelled.
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The Movie Game made it to Season 3, and I don't believe that there ever was a network version.
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If you are open-minded about the definition (why wasn't that syndicated, was it the dreaded zed?), "Bzzz,""Let's Go to the Races," "Celeb Bowling" and possibly "Celeb Tennis" lasted more than a season. Would "Pay Cards" qualify or does "Spin-Off" take it off the menu?
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[quote name=\'William_S.\' post=\'233699\' date=\'Jan 6 2010, 01:05 AM\'][quote name=\'jmangin\' post=\'233608\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 11:26 AM\']Break the Bank (1985)
The Challengers[/quote]
I thought BtB was part of CBS' Lineup as was Challengers on NBC with a late-day on syn. ( I saw it also on WWOR9 for a bit)
[/quote]
Break the Bank was on ABC before syndication in its 1976 incarnation. Besides which, it was one of the earliest game shows, airing in the mid-'50s and hosted by Bert Parks. In the 1957 season it was briefly called "Break the $250,000 Bank".
The Challengers was syndicated for one year, but as has been mentioned, was a revised, updated version of "The Who, What or Where Game" which was on NBC in the late 60s to about 1972.
"Treasure Hunt" doesn't fit the criteria here either because it was a live NBC production in the late 1950s with Jan Murray.
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[quote name=\'Mr. Bill\' post=\'233801\' date=\'Jan 7 2010, 04:49 PM\']Besides which, it was one of the earliest game shows, airing in the mid-'50s and hosted by Bert Parks. In the 1957 season it was briefly called "Break the $250,000 Bank".[/quote]It was also a completely different game.
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Bible Baffle 1977-1982
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'233636\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 01:59 PM\'][quote name=\'vtown7\' post=\'233635\' date=\'Jan 5 2010, 01:52 PM\']Would Street Smarts count in this survey?
Ryan.[/quote]
Can't see why not. Don't forget Freakin' Studs.
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Wasn't Freakin' Studs on CBS?
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[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'233810\' date=\'Jan 7 2010, 05:52 PM\']Wasn't Freakin' Studs on CBS?[/quote]
I think it was FOX.
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'233811\' date=\'Jan 7 2010, 07:07 PM\'][quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'233810\' date=\'Jan 7 2010, 05:52 PM\']Wasn't Freakin' Studs on CBS?[/quote]
I think it was FOX.
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Might've been syndicated to Fox O&Os. It aired on an independent station (now a CW affiliate) in Norfolk.
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[quote name=\'opimus\' post=\'233808\' date=\'Jan 7 2010, 06:27 PM\']Bible Baffle 1977-1982[/quote]
Ok, I've seen this title before, but has anyone actually seen this series? I'm just curious.
--Jamie
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I've got two: Click (1997-99) and Kwik Witz (1996-99)
Both of them are highly forgettable. I don't remember if Peer Pressure, which accompanied Click in many markets, was renewed for a season 2....
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'233821\' date=\'Jan 7 2010, 09:04 PM\'][quote name=\'opimus\' post=\'233808\' date=\'Jan 7 2010, 06:27 PM\']Bible Baffle 1977-1982[/quote]
Ok, I've seen this title before, but has anyone actually seen this series? I'm just curious.[/quote]
I remember seeing a version of it on the old Christian Broadcasting Network. May even have been an older precursor of CBN, I'm not sure. I'm sure I've told the story before. Pretty much standard-issue Jeopardy-style quizzer with three players buzzing in to answer questions about the Bible. Thing is, the buzzers were not tied to a lockout system, so when two or more buzzed in at roughly the same time, the host had to judge who was first. I remember sometimes he was clearly wrong, and sometimes he'd just call it a tie and throw the question out. None of it seemed to matter much. Heck of a way to run a quiz show, especially since lockout systems date back to Winner Take All.
I don't know the specific history of the show, however, and internet info is hard to find since there are "Bible Baffle" products currently on the market that probably don't have anything to do with the TV show.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'233824\' date=\'Jan 7 2010, 09:16 PM\']Both of them are highly forgettable. I don't remember if Peer Pressure, which accompanied Click in many markets, was renewed for a season 2....[/quote]
It was, but I think they were simply first-season episodes...
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'233827\' date=\'Jan 7 2010, 06:36 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'233824\' date=\'Jan 7 2010, 09:16 PM\']Both of them are highly forgettable. I don't remember if Peer Pressure, which accompanied Click in many markets, was renewed for a season 2....[/quote]It was, but I think they were simply first-season episodes...
[/quote]With new music and graphics, and any time the title was said aloud, Peer was blackedout.
For some reason, I remember a show for young people, with "Pressure" in the title, and the last round was a timed event where whoever got five right faster won, and the time was shown as a beaker filling up. Whether that was related or not, I have no idea.
/now where are my keys?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'233824\' date=\'Jan 7 2010, 09:16 PM\']I've got two: Click (1997-99) and Kwik Witz (1996-99)
Both of them are highly forgettable. I don't remember if Peer Pressure, which accompanied Click in many markets, was renewed for a season 2....[/quote]
I wouldn't call Kwik Witz a game show. It was semi if not significantly scripted.
--Mike
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And speaking of Bible Baffle, I found an article that said it started as a local Chicago show in 1978 (and called Bible Scrabble!?!) produced by WCFC. It was offered to any channel who wanted it starting in 1980, which CBN did have in its infancy. It was still on the air locally in 1983 and I saw references in some listings in as late as 1986 on religious stations in other markets. Apparently the bonus game involved unscrambling a KJV verse for modest prizes.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'233836\' date=\'Jan 7 2010, 10:10 PM\'][quote name=\'Jimmy Fiono Coyne\' post=\'233824\' date=\'Jan 7 2010, 09:16 PM\']I've got two: Click (1997-99) and Kwik Witz (1996-99)
Both of them are highly forgettable. I don't remember if Peer Pressure, which accompanied Click in many markets, was renewed for a season 2....[/quote]
I wouldn't call Kwik Witz a game show. It was semi if not significantly scripted.
--Mike
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I must respectfully disagree. I stick with Kwik Witz being a game show despite the fact that unlike Whose Line Is It Anyway the "humor" was rehearsed in advance.
--Jamie
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For some reason, I remember a show for young people, with "Pressure" in the title, and the last round was a timed event where whoever got five right faster won, and the time was shown as a beaker filling up. Whether that was related or not, I have no idea.
I, too, remember that show. It was called "Pressure 1" (they retitled Peer Pressure "Pressure 2" as a result) and other than that final speed round, I remember nothing more than that, other than it being a standard-fare quiz show (easily forgettable).
/was on at 7 on Saturday mornings in 1999-2000 in Chicago
//can't believe I was 15 and actually set my alarm to get up and watch both...
Anthony
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Would "Bowling For Dollars" qualify, or does it have to be the exact same show/hosts/players across the country??
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'233871\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 11:22 AM\']Would "Bowling For Dollars" qualify, or does it have to be the exact same show/hosts/players across the country??[/quote]
No and yes. But that's an interesting show to bring up. How many other formats were licensed to markets for local production as this show was?
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'233875\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 10:10 AM\'][quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'233871\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 11:22 AM\']Would "Bowling For Dollars" qualify, or does it have to be the exact same show/hosts/players across the country??[/quote]
No and yes. But that's an interesting show to bring up. How many other formats were licensed to markets for local production as this show was?
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I Know of 2:
-- It's Academic (Challenge)
-- Let's Go To The Races (Sponsored by Pick N Pay Supermarkets in Cleveland, but I believe that only lasted one season).
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'233876\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 09:42 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'233875\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 10:10 AM\'][quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'233871\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 11:22 AM\']Would "Bowling For Dollars" qualify, or does it have to be the exact same show/hosts/players across the country??[/quote]
No and yes. But that's an interesting show to bring up. How many other formats were licensed to markets for local production as this show was?
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I Know of 2:
-- It's Academic (Challenge)
-- Let's Go To The Races (Sponsored by Pick N Pay Supermarkets in Cleveland, but I believe that only lasted one season).
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I don't think there was any local production on Let's Go to the Races. As I remember it, there weren't any references within the show to the local sponsor. It's been a very long time. of course, and my memory could be dodgy.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'233876\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 12:42 PM\']-- Let's Go To The Races (Sponsored by Pick N Pay Supermarkets in Cleveland, but I believe that only lasted one season).[/quote]
Starring Larry Morrow!! Yes, I think the show only ran during the summer of 1982. Was it on Channel 43 or 61?
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'233876\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 01:42 PM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'233875\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 10:10 AM\'][quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'233871\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 11:22 AM\']Would "Bowling For Dollars" qualify, or does it have to be the exact same show/hosts/players across the country??[/quote]
No and yes. But that's an interesting show to bring up. How many other formats were licensed to markets for local production as this show was?
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I Know of 2:
-- It's Academic (Challenge)
-- Let's Go To The Races (Sponsored by Pick N Pay Supermarkets in Cleveland, but I believe that only lasted one season).
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I remember a simular promo with National in Chicago during the early 70's or late 60's.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'233880\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 11:29 AM\'][quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'233876\' date=\'Jan 8 2010, 12:42 PM\']-- Let's Go To The Races (Sponsored by Pick N Pay Supermarkets in Cleveland, but I believe that only lasted one season).[/quote]
Starring Larry Morrow!! Yes, I think the show only ran during the summer of 1982. Was it on Channel 43 or 61?
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Definitely WUAB-43...I thought the show was on in the late 70s, meaning it ran during the time that Channel 61 was off the air between the days of WKBF-61 (The original Channel 61) and WCLQ-61 (Independent-turned-HSC-turned-Univision).
Speaking of WCLQ, another licensed-to-local-market show would have been the TV-POW!!! format dubbed "Video Arcade" on Channel 61, and hosted by the hot babe of the day Candy Cramer (I seemed to always have my joystick with me when Candy was on in the afternoon, but that's another story).