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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: xavier45 on March 01, 2010, 08:32:24 PM
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Here is it from thewrap.com. (http://\"http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/price-right-model-says-she-was-fired-being-pregnant-sues-14769\")
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Who the heck is Cochran?
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[quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'236627\' date=\'Mar 1 2010, 08:44 PM\']Who the heck is Cochran?[/quote]
That's her married name. She is married to actor Dean Cochran.
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It gets worse -- according to this post on Golden-Road.net (http://www.golden-road.net/index.php/topic,14137.msg227245.html#msg227245) by someone who has been confirmed to have inside information (emphasis added by me):
From what I know in the lawsuit filings, the female producer in question did much of the comments about "God's" way. There are lots of negative comments made towards Brandi and her employment according to the documents. I read a lot here and I'm afraid everyone may soon find out that not everyone is as nice around here as you may think. The bigger break will be once the lawsuit is public about the new Executive Producer's relationship with one of the other models on the show!
... It's like Barker never left. :o
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Here's the lawsuit filing (http://\"http://reporter.blogs.com/files/priceisright.pdf\") (in PDF format).
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The pdf makes things a lot more open and clear. In my personal opinion, I really don't think the show fired Brandi because she got pregnant/was pregnant. In a lot of these instances, I personally think the program was looking out for her well-being and, knowing her previous unfortunate history with pregnancy, didn't want to be liable for any unfortunate events occurring on their property. I also feel like Brandi's using an alleged relationship (the appropriateness of which, if true, is up for debate) to try to justify why some things happened but I don't think they have much of a connection to her. This is just my opinion from what Brandi and her lawyer have quoted and have had published.
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Wow, I'm surprised that "The Kitchen Sink" didn't come after Violation of Privacy and Fraud.
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Bet I know who this "fourth wheel" model is.
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[quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'236727\' date=\'Mar 2 2010, 10:27 PM\']Bet I know who this "fourth wheel" model is.[/quote]
Mimi?
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'236722\' date=\'Mar 2 2010, 09:40 PM\']The pdf makes things a lot more open and clear. In my personal opinion, I really don't think the show fired Brandi because she got pregnant/was pregnant. In a lot of these instances, I personally think the program was looking out for her well-being and, knowing her previous unfortunate history with pregnancy, didn't want to be liable for any unfortunate events occurring on their property. I also feel like Brandi's using an alleged relationship (the appropriateness of which, if true, is up for debate) to try to justify why some things happened but I don't think they have much of a connection to her. This is just my opinion from what Brandi and her lawyer have quoted and have had published.[/quote]
It's not up to the show to decide for Brandi when it is appropriate medically to come back after leave. That's the purpose of the leave, so you will have your job when you return. Let Brandi and her doctor decide what is best for her, not "Fingers" (and if that whole "bad baby" quote is true, I can't imagine why there was not a fight right there). Choosing your own path is the American way, isn't it?
TPiR has been alleged before to be a place where they are hyper-aware about the appearances of the models. God forbid one of them be pregnant like real women often are. I mean, would it be the end of the world if a visibly pregnant woman waved her hand over a car or opened the door on a new refrigerator?
Seriously, though, HR needs to step it the hell up over at Television City. Certainly they had to have known that this is extremely illegal.
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I wonder if HR has a policy on staff members dating?
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I remember previously reading (and I forget where) that since the mid-2000s or so all models were "independent contractors" and not actual employees of FremantleMedia. Is this still the case?
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'236728\' date=\'Mar 2 2010, 09:32 PM\'][quote name=\'davemackey\' post=\'236727\' date=\'Mar 2 2010, 10:27 PM\']Bet I know who this "fourth wheel" model is.[/quote]
Mimi?
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Almost certainly Amber, who got time off to film some MTV show.
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[quote name=\'jmangin\' post=\'236743\' date=\'Mar 3 2010, 08:24 AM\']I remember previously reading (and I forget where) that since the mid-2000s or so all models were "independent contractors" and not actual employees of FremantleMedia. Is this still the case?[/quote]
I'm not sure it ever was. It is known that Janice and Holly had personal services contracts, as did the emcees and "regulars" such as Brett and Charles. These days I think the models are hired by the day, the same as non-regular guest celebrities (think Tattletales or Super Password). They show up, tape two shows and leave. If that is in fact the case, I don't see how her attorney can claim she was "fired" if the company has no obligation to hire her again after each taping day (the literal definition of "per diem"). By the same token her attorney seems to think she had some kind of employment relationship with CBS, which I very much doubt is the case.
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[quote name=\'inturnaround\' post=\'236731\' date=\'Mar 2 2010, 11:40 PM\']I mean, would it be the end of the world if a visibly pregnant woman waved her hand over a car or opened the door on a new refrigerator?[/quote]
IIRC Carol Merrill was pregnant on LMAD in the 60's. Can't remember if she was on for all nine months or not.
/and no, a visibly pregnant woman modeling on any show would not be the end of the world!!
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[quote name=\'joker316\' post=\'236754\' date=\'Mar 3 2010, 09:37 AM\']/and no, a visibly pregnant woman modeling on any show would not be the end of the world!![/quote]
Approves (http://\"http://www.timvp.com/cardshr3.jpg\")
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[quote name=\'joker316\' post=\'236754\' date=\'Mar 3 2010, 12:37 PM\'][quote name=\'inturnaround\' post=\'236731\' date=\'Mar 2 2010, 11:40 PM\']I mean, would it be the end of the world if a visibly pregnant woman waved her hand over a car or opened the door on a new refrigerator?[/quote]
IIRC Carol Merrill was pregnant on LMAD in the 60's. Can't remember if she was on for all nine months or not.
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I remember reading this in some game show book (Come On Down!, maybe?). My recollection is she wore a lot of tent dresses (it was that era), and she didn't work throughout her pregnancy, but it would have been okay with Monty and Stefan Hatos. (And, of course, the kid wound up being Truth or Consequences' Hillary Safire.)
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[quote name=\'joker316\' post=\'236754\' date=\'Mar 3 2010, 12:37 PM\']/and no, a visibly pregnant woman modeling on any show would not be the end of the world!![/quote]
No, but by the same token, if producers didn't want to have visibly pregnant models, and they were under no long-term contractual obligation to any individual model, then they would certainly be well within their rights to not have one on their show. It's their show.
That sounds to me like what's happening here. While Brandi, and most of the viewing audience, probably saw her role as "regular", it probably wasn't by any legal definition. Now that they've decided not to use her -- whatever their reasons might be, up to and including her pregnancy -- her legal team is going to throw a lot of stuff up against the wall to see if any of it sticks. One of those tactics will be to use the word "fired" as much as possible so that lazy tabloid writers (and topic starters) will repeat it.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'236759\' date=\'Mar 3 2010, 01:36 PM\']One of those tactics will be to use the word "fired" as much as possible so that lazy tabloid writers (and topic starters) will repeat it.[/quote]
I love you.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'236759\' date=\'Mar 3 2010, 10:36 AM\']... While Brandi, and most of the viewing audience, probably saw her role as "regular", it probably wasn't by any legal definition. ...[/quote]
Indeed, Matt. In fact, I've always been led to believe that NONE of the models, the lovely Janice included, were ever under a long term contract at any point during the show's long history. Just the same, from my time with her, I'd have to say that I think Brandi is the sweetest of the new batch, and perhaps the most telegenic. I'm very saddened to learn of her challenges, and any continuing disharmony on the set.
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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Somewhere in the obscure reaches of the Internet is a document concerning the sale of Price Productions to All-American TV. The document states that there were four talent contracts associated with TPIR at the time: Bob Barker, Rod Roddy, Janice Pennington and Holly Hallstrom. Due to their eventual model troubles and the non-involvement of Mr. Goodson, I'm sure such contracts are relics of the past.
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Surely the question isn't about being pregnant and on-air?
Brandy herself was on-screen and pregnant. So was Gwendolyn (and...Shane?). You don't have to look to LMaD for examples of preggo & modeling.
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' post=\'236783\' date=\'Mar 3 2010, 02:55 PM\']Surely the question isn't about being pregnant and on-air?
Brandy herself was on-screen and pregnant. So was Gwendolyn (and...Shane?). You don't have to look to LMaD for examples of preggo & modeling.[/quote]
Unless I'm reading the complaint wrong, they didn't stop using her until after her two pregnancies, so no, that's not the issue.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'236779\' date=\'Mar 3 2010, 02:15 PM\']Somewhere in the obscure reaches of the Internet is a document concerning the sale of Price Productions to All-American TV. The document states that there were four talent contracts associated with TPIR at the time: Bob Barker, Rod Roddy, Janice Pennington and Holly Hallstrom. Due to their eventual model troubles and the non-involvement of Mr. Goodson, I'm sure such contracts are relics of the past.[/quote]
With all due respect (and I have much), I did extensive research into the Goodson sale / All American aquisition in researching the Johnny Olson biography (which continues to be available at Amazon and at www.tvrandywest.com). I found no reference to contracts covering the models. If you can locate any information to the contrary I would love to see it. Thanks!
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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I thought I remembered an interview with Janice floating around somewhere on the net in which she states the models were hired on a weekly basis.
Or am I just too friggin' tired to be typing right now?
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Janice had a contract. Maybe she meant to say they were scheduled on a weekly basis.
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[quote name=\'calliaume\' post=\'236758\' date=\'Mar 3 2010, 01:25 PM\']And, of course, the kid wound up being Truth or Consequences' Hillary Safire.[/quote]
Thanks for that memory. She was dreamy!