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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: SwohS Emag on May 04, 2010, 02:45:22 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100504/ap_en_...uppet_game_show (http://\"http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100504/ap_en_tv/us_tv_puppet_game_show\")
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OK, Larry Miller and edgy Muppets? For the first time in a long time, I'm anxiously awaiting a GSN original.
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So it's "Liar's Club" with puppets? Could work....
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This..........has some promise.
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Here's the GSN press release... (http://\"http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2010/05/04/gsn-launches-late-night-liars-with-celebri-puppets-by-henson-alternative/20100504gsn01/\")- Well, you can tell who they're trying to parody for the most part...
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I'll definitely be checking this one out.
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This new game show sounds really really great!
FOR PORN! *boom*
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If this works? Next Match Game panel.
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[quote name=\'GPeefalt\' post=\'240373\' date=\'May 5 2010, 01:51 AM\']This new game show sounds really really great!
FOR PORN! *boom*[/quote]
Your jib, sir. I like its cut.
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From the PR: "raucous panel shows such as Match Game, Hollywood Squares, To Tell The Truth and The Gong Show."
Yup, I still remember Kitty Carlisle flashing the contestants on To Tell The Truth.
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Nah, Kitty just scared them all to death with those pearls.
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It sounds different and appealing, unlike some of GSN's more recent originals. I'll give it a try.
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Well they seem to be going all out on this- they've activated part of the official show site, and it's pretty funny (and other things coming soon look good as well)..
http://www.pmz.tv/ (http://\"http://www.pmz.tv/\")
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I can already hear the criticisms against it. If you're watching for the purpose of watching a game show, there's not a lot there. But as far as I'm concerned, this may very well be the best original GSN has ever created. Thoroughly entertaining program from start ("...and I'm a weasel!") to finish (a surprisingly engaging end game). Frankly staggering production values by typical GSN standards, and a loose glibness and series of running jokes that suggests a show that's already been going a long time. Golly, but somebody worked hard (and spent money) on this.
OK, yes, it helps that I'm a huge fan of Larry Miller and the Muppets already, but there were dozens of ways this could have turned out wrong. Look no further than Burt Ludden to see how hard it is to pull off a heavily scripted comedy show that's still an actual game. For the first time since the IGAS remake (and the classic IGAS reruns), I've got a GSN show on my season pass.
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There are many things to say, but I think this point is A-1.
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'242265\' date=\'Jun 10 2010, 08:50 PM\']I can already hear the criticisms against it. If you're watching for the purpose of watching a game show, there's not a lot there.[/quote]You're absolutely right. I couldn't help but note that the game was essentially decided by the Temptation Vault.
If you watch to laugh or be entertained, you'll love it. If you watch expecting thrilling game play and brain-wracking decisions, you will be disappointed.
I dug the whole thing from the cold open. The final Dis-or-Dat round was a nice touch.
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Concur in every way. As you said, not much game there...but there really isn't supposed to be. Endgame was *very* funny.
Dunno if I'll record every night, but I suspect me and the GF are all over it on nights when StewBeef is a rerun.
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I watched it and when it comes to the comedy and/or the game, I didn't really enjoy it. The jokes weren't that funny, the "game" was fairly anticlimactic and the panel started grating on my nerves by the end of the show. My favorite part was the endgame. I wonder if 43 seconds is permanent or if its arbitrary like the question values? A bit surprised that $500/per was the consolation, since $3,500 is a pretty big "aww, sorry" on a $10,000 top prize. Overall I can see how some people will be entertained by it, but unfortunately, for the most part, I'm not one of them.
/I am, however, gonna start an "I love that guy" drinking game.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'242269\' date=\'Jun 10 2010, 09:02 PM\']A bit surprised that $500/per was the consolation, since $3,500 is a pretty big "aww, sorry" on a $10,000 top prize.[/quote]If your winner of the main game is going to finish with less than $2,000, then I don't have a big problem with piling on some extra cash in the bonus round. Tonight's winner wound up with a skosh less than the top regular prize on Lingo. That didn't bug me at all.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'242267\' date=\'Jun 10 2010, 11:56 PM\']Dunno if I'll record every night, but I suspect me and the GF are all over it on nights when StewBeef is a rerun.[/quote]
I made a point of catching the debut, but from here out, I'm happy to let TiVo record one of the 735 reruns and still enjoy myself some Daily Show. Also, it's not nightly, but weekly. Word is that a nightly show was cost-prohibitive. My understanding is that there are only eight shows in the initial order.
As for the "brain-wracking decisions", let's give them some credit. What little game there is has total play-along value. If I must critique the game itself, I'm not wild about the fact that the Randomometer can decide the outcome, though I am totally amused that they have something they call a Randomometer.
As for the comedy, I'm impressed with the five characters. If I'm producing, I'd have a couple more panelists to mix in every once in a while, though I don't think that's part of their plan. I'd also like to see more interaction between Larry and his sidekick than just Weasel jokes/Larry laughs. As Chad pointed out, "I love that guy" got a little stale. But these are small things.
I'd have played for even lower stakes, since that's totally not the selling point. $5000 top prize, and $100 for each correct answer if you fall short. I'd also let the loser keep the money he earned.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'242271\' date=\'Jun 10 2010, 09:09 PM\']As for the "brain-wracking decisions", let's give them some credit. What little game there is has total play-along value. If I must critique the game itself, I'm not wild about the fact that the Randomometer can decide the outcome, though I am totally amused that they have something they call a Randomometer.[/quote]And if the guy had gotten the Fox Reality shows question right, that final question would have ended up moot.
The questions are actually interesting, if you can get beyond the fact that the game really doesn't probe any new ground. And it doesn't have to, since you have the Pointy Haired Boss voice playing host to Muppets. Muppets who are naughty. Focus on that bit and you have something.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'242272\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 12:14 AM\']you have the Pointy Haired Boss voice[/quote]
In trying to explain to someone who Larry Miller is, I admit that credit eluded me.
/"Suck-up salesman in Pretty Woman" seems to be most effective.
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I concur- there's not much game there, but that's not the point. The puppets work really well (and they get the "types" they're trying to do superbly), and Larry Miller's OK- if a bit stilted at times. I don't know if a lot of the GSN viewers will "get it"- TBS probably would have been a bit of a better fit for this show.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'242281\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 07:33 AM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'242272\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 12:14 AM\']you have the Pointy Haired Boss voice[/quote]
In trying to explain to someone who Larry Miller is, I admit that credit eluded me.
/"Suck-up salesman in Pretty Woman" seems to be most effective.
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Or the dean in Necessary Roughness
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[quote name=\'joker316\' post=\'242287\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 10:13 AM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'242281\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 07:33 AM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'242272\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 12:14 AM\']you have the Pointy Haired Boss voice[/quote]In trying to explain to someone who Larry Miller is, I admit that credit eluded me.
/"Suck-up salesman in Pretty Woman" seems to be most effective.[/quote]Or the dean in Necessary Roughness[/quote]
Or the murderer in the Law & Order rerun I stumbled onto yesterday.
...okay, so that's not effective at all. I'm really just amused that I ran into him twice in one day and didn't even realize it was the same guy until I looked him up on Wiki.
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D'oh! Missed the premiere. Am looking for a rerun now. Glad to hear it's not terrible, and looking forward to its success.
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[quote name=\'joker316\' post=\'242287\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 10:13 AM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'242281\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 07:33 AM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'242272\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 12:14 AM\']you have the Pointy Haired Boss voice[/quote]
In trying to explain to someone who Larry Miller is, I admit that credit eluded me.
/"Suck-up salesman in Pretty Woman" seems to be most effective.
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Or the dean in Necessary Roughness
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Wasn't he also John Ritter's boss at the paper on 8 Simple Rules?
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'242297\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 11:07 AM\']D'oh! Missed the premiere. Am looking for a rerun now. Glad to hear it's not terrible, and looking forward to its success.[/quote]
Oh, don't worry. GSN will only run this thing seven or eight hundred more times.
/Considering they apparently only taped something like eight episodes.
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'242297\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 12:07 PM\']D'oh! Missed the premiere. Am looking for a rerun now. Glad to hear it's not terrible, and looking forward to its success.[/quote]
Midnight (as in 8 hrs from now).
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'242265\' date=\'Jun 10 2010, 10:50 PM\']....and a loose glibness and series of running jokes that suggests a show that's already been going a long time.[/quote]
I got that, too. From the get go, this didn't feel like a "first episode"- it was more like Match Game by '76 or so.
[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' post=\'240403\' date=\'May 5 2010, 03:12 PM\']If this works? Next Match Game panel.[/quote]
From left to right, you have Brett, Charles, rotating ditzy bimbo, and Richard. I think in Mummy's character description, CNR is even mentioned.
I can't tell you where just yet, but this show already ranks in my top 5 GSN originals, and if they keep producing good material, it could very well end up in my top 3 (and I think it will).
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[quote name=\'weaklink75\' post=\'242286\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 06:10 AM\']I concur- there's not much game there, but that's not the point. The puppets work really well (and they get the "types" they're trying to do superbly), and Larry Miller's OK- if a bit stilted at times. I don't know if a lot of the GSN viewers will "get it"- TBS probably would have been a bit of a better fit for this show.[/quote]
They'll fix the lack of game by adding another round in the "PM" version.
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[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'242339\' date=\'Jun 12 2010, 09:38 AM\']From left to right, you have Brett, Charles, rotating ditzy bimbo, and Richard. I think in Mummy's character description, CNR is even mentioned.[/quote]
One of the things they definitely want to do is give you the feeling of camaraderie and chemistry among the panel members, and if you want to make the Match Game comparisons, I'm sure they'd be pleased with the analogy. Still, there are obvious inspirations for three of the characters that have nothing to do with Match Game. The Mummy character seems to be an amalgam of CNR and Paul Lynde (the voice is definitely more Lynde) but with a modern-day openness. The other three are clearly pattered after Joan Rivers, Paris Hilton and Simon Cowell.
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Well, it seems that for the most part, this guy seems to agree about the camraderie and whatnot.
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.d...RTAIN/100609880 (http://\"http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100610/ENTERTAIN/100609880\")
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'242345\' date=\'Jun 12 2010, 11:53 AM\'][quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'242339\' date=\'Jun 12 2010, 09:38 AM\']From left to right, you have Brett, Charles, rotating ditzy bimbo, and Richard. I think in Mummy's character description, CNR is even mentioned.[/quote]
The Mummy character seems to be an amalgam of CNR and Paul Lynde (the voice is definitely more Lynde) but with a modern-day openness. The other three are clearly pattered after Joan Rivers, Paris Hilton and Simon Cowell. [/quote]
I agree - X gets the square
It's good and one of GSN's better recent efforts, IMO. I like the bonus round, and $500 for each right answer when not winning is pretty good for GSN standards. I'll try to catch the new episode every week.
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[quote name=\'BillCullen1\' post=\'242351\' date=\'Jun 12 2010, 10:06 AM\']I like the bonus round, and $500 for each right answer when not winning is pretty good for GSN standards. I'll try to catch the new episode every week.[/quote]
I think it's a little high and that "Oh, you didn't win the bonus! But your takeaway today is over FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS" sounds a lot silly. $200 per would have been far more reasonable. But then, I'm not watching this because it's a game show, so meh.
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[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'242295\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 10:59 AM\'][quote name=\'joker316\' post=\'242287\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 10:13 AM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'242281\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 07:33 AM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'242272\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 12:14 AM\']you have the Pointy Haired Boss voice[/quote]In trying to explain to someone who Larry Miller is, I admit that credit eluded me.
/"Suck-up salesman in Pretty Woman" seems to be most effective.[/quote]Or the dean in Necessary Roughness[/quote]
Or the murderer in the Law & Order rerun I stumbled onto yesterday.
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Larry played one of the few characters in the entire Law & Order franchise to have a recurring role as a criminal (Olivia d'Abo's character Nicole is the only other one I can think of off the top of my head). He killed his first wife in 1994 and his second in 1996; they nailed him on the second murder.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'242353\' date=\'Jun 12 2010, 12:24 PM\'][quote name=\'BillCullen1\' post=\'242351\' date=\'Jun 12 2010, 10:06 AM\']I like the bonus round, and $500 for each right answer when not winning is pretty good for GSN standards. I'll try to catch the new episode every week.[/quote]
I think it's a little high and that "Oh, you didn't win the bonus! But your takeaway today is over FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS" sounds a lot silly. $200 per would have been far more reasonable. But then, I'm not watching this because it's a game show, so meh.
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Well, on the last season on Bergeron HS, the safe had $10K, yet gave a consolation of $500 for each right answer...and in that case, you still got to return. For a game show where there's no returning champions and only one shot at the big money, I think a $3K-$4K payday is fair. Also remember that this is a weekly GSN original, not a daily.
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[quote name=\'rollercoaster87\' post=\'242366\' date=\'Jun 12 2010, 01:54 PM\']For a game show where there's no returning champions and only one shot at the big money, I think a $3K-$4K payday is fair. Also remember that this is a weekly GSN original, not a daily.[/quote]
Well, we disagree.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'242281\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 07:33 AM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'242272\' date=\'Jun 11 2010, 12:14 AM\']you have the Pointy Haired Boss voice[/quote]
In trying to explain to someone who Larry Miller is, I admit that credit eluded me.
/"Suck-up salesman in Pretty Woman" seems to be most effective.
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The surly dean in the Eddie Murphy version of The Nutty Professor.
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I finally figured out something that I don't care for. On a show like Power of 10, where you have the percentage barrel sliding up and down the scale to see whether the contestant wins or not, I don't mind the little tease thing that it does. When you have two puppets who are making strange noises and not getting to the point of "I'm the liar!" it really frosts my birthday cake. They couldn't play another question with the time, but it still looks dumb.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'242429\' date=\'Jun 13 2010, 05:06 PM\']I finally figured out something that I don't care for. On a show like Power of 10, where you have the percentage barrel sliding up and down the scale to see whether the contestant wins or not, I don't mind the little tease thing that it does. When you have two puppets who are making strange noises and not getting to the point of "I'm the liar!" it really frosts my birthday cake. They couldn't play another question with the time, but it still looks dumb.[/quote]
See, I kind of liked that. It's an obvious parody of TTTT, but since it's puppets, they made it over the top and silly with the different sounds. They also didn't draw it out long enough to the point of being obnoxious, IMO. I thought it fit right in with the rest of the show.
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I enjoyed the show -- The Weasel is my favorite character. I'm hoping for additional characters if the show is renewed, and would enjoy the show more without the phrase 'I love that guy'.
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I decided to watch since it got pretty good reviews.
I thought the game was OK, but I just didn't find it funny at all. Especially with the contestants & audience laughing at everything (IMO, most if not all, wasn't funny)
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I've watched a couple of episodes now...I give it a 9/10.
I think the show is a nice fit for a late night time slot--the show isn't completely sleazy nor is it a dating show. While the format isn't anything special, it is solid. Props to the set and (what I presume) is actual alcohol being consumed. Larry doesn't seem to mind giving equal billing to the Weasel.
Dislikes go to the bonus round payouts($500/per is too much) and the lack of rotating panelists. That said, this shows me that, along with Baggage show GSN can do studio-based games that aren't as out there as the Carnie Wilson series, yet can add some modern flair too them.
(An additional thumbs down go to GSN's airing schedule).
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Episode Two, clearly from earlier in the [brief] run, was still solid but not as slick as the debut. So thanks to GSN's ridiculous policy of running them out of order, we get to watch the show get worse. With wordier and trickier clues, the bonus was all but unwinable this time. The storytelling third round was also not nearly as interesting. The stories were pointless filler that each boiled down to a simple (and in both cases, pretty easy) trivia question. One guy missed his anyway.
Couple of nice things. In a category of baseball players with dirty-sounding names, one of the choices was 'Pete LaCock'. After revealing that to be a true name, they stopped and made mention of his game show connection. Also, previews for next week's show indicate that we will in fact have a guest panelist. This one is a Mickey Rourke puppet who appears to actually be identified as Mickey Rourke, which is pretty reality-twisting even for them.
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Alongside Mickey Rourke, another thing I noticed tonight:
By popular demand by multiple parties, the bonus round jackpot was raised to $25,000
which made the resulting win a lot more exciting.
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Was last week's BR jackpot $9,998?
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[quote name=\'Lirodon\' post=\'243031\' date=\'Jun 24 2010, 11:44 PM\']Alongside Mickey Rourke, another thing I noticed tonight:
By popular demand by multiple parties, the bonus round jackpot was raised to $25,000
which made the resulting win a lot more exciting.[/quote]
I disagree on the last part. He could've played for a million dollars and it would've been no more exciting. Mo' money <> excitement
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[quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'243049\' date=\'Jun 25 2010, 07:57 AM\'][quote name=\'Lirodon\' post=\'243031\' date=\'Jun 24 2010, 11:44 PM\']Alongside Mickey Rourke, another thing I noticed tonight:
By popular demand by multiple parties, the bonus round jackpot was raised to $25,000
which made the resulting win a lot more exciting.[/quote]
I disagree on the last part. He could've played for a million dollars and it would've been no more exciting. Mo' money <> excitement
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But he won with just seconds left. When timed rounds get down to the last second or two, I don't care how much you are playing for...it's damn exciting.
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[quote name=\'mxc0427\' post=\'243061\' date=\'Jun 25 2010, 03:23 PM\'][quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'243049\' date=\'Jun 25 2010, 07:57 AM\'][quote name=\'Lirodon\' post=\'243031\' date=\'Jun 24 2010, 11:44 PM\']Alongside Mickey Rourke, another thing I noticed tonight:
By popular demand by multiple parties, the bonus round jackpot was raised to $25,000
which made the resulting win a lot more exciting.[/quote]
I disagree on the last part. He could've played for a million dollars and it would've been no more exciting. Mo' money <> excitement
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But he won with just seconds left. When timed rounds get down to the last second or two, I don't care how much you are playing for...it's damn exciting.
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Exactly his point, I gather. The money didn't make it MORE exciting. It was exciting on its own.
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[quote name=\'Kevin Prather\' post=\'243062\' date=\'Jun 25 2010, 05:32 PM\'][quote name=\'mxc0427\' post=\'243061\' date=\'Jun 25 2010, 03:23 PM\'][quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'243049\' date=\'Jun 25 2010, 07:57 AM\'][quote name=\'Lirodon\' post=\'243031\' date=\'Jun 24 2010, 11:44 PM\']Alongside Mickey Rourke, another thing I noticed tonight:
By popular demand by multiple parties, the bonus round jackpot was raised to $25,000
which made the resulting win a lot more exciting.[/quote]
I disagree on the last part. He could've played for a million dollars and it would've been no more exciting. Mo' money <> excitement
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But he won with just seconds left. When timed rounds get down to the last second or two, I don't care how much you are playing for...it's damn exciting.
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Exactly his point, I gather. The money didn't make it MORE exciting. It was exciting on its own.
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I can't wait until the U.S. military declassifies this thread in 30 years.
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[quote name=\'Kevin Prather\' post=\'243062\' date=\'Jun 25 2010, 06:32 PM\'][quote name=\'mxc0427\' post=\'243061\' date=\'Jun 25 2010, 03:23 PM\'][quote name=\'MikeK\' post=\'243049\' date=\'Jun 25 2010, 07:57 AM\'][quote name=\'Lirodon\' post=\'243031\' date=\'Jun 24 2010, 11:44 PM\']Alongside Mickey Rourke, another thing I noticed tonight:
By popular demand by multiple parties, the bonus round jackpot was raised to $25,000
which made the resulting win a lot more exciting.[/quote]
I disagree on the last part. He could've played for a million dollars and it would've been no more exciting. Mo' money <> excitement
[/quote]
But he won with just seconds left. When timed rounds get down to the last second or two, I don't care how much you are playing for...it's damn exciting.
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Exactly his point, I gather. The money didn't make it MORE exciting. It was exciting on its own.
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No need to gather. You're spot on, Kevin. OH CRAP! I meant No need to gather. You're spot on, Kevin.
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[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'243033\' date=\'Jun 24 2010, 09:11 PM\']Was last week's BR jackpot $9,998?[/quote]I'm pretty sure it wasn't.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'243112\' date=\'Jun 26 2010, 09:20 PM\'][quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'243033\' date=\'Jun 24 2010, 09:11 PM\']Was last week's BR jackpot $9,998?[/quote]I'm pretty sure it wasn't.[/quote]
You're right. Watching the ep. in question on Fancast right now, it was $9,995.
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The show is getting cutback in the number of airings it has. Starting this week, instead of 10 airings, it is now down to 3 airings. Thursday Nights at 11:00pm and 2:00am. Then Saturday nights at 12:00am.
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[quote name=\'xavier45\' post=\'243368\' date=\'Jun 30 2010, 11:27 AM\']The show is getting cutback in the number of airings it has. Starting this week, instead of 10 airings, it is now down to 3 airings. Thursday Nights at 11:00pm and 2:00am. Then Saturday nights at 12:00am.[/quote]
Yes, to say the ratings have been disappointing is an understatement. Apparently, GSN was doing much, much better with reruns of stuff like 1 vs 100. A shame, because I still think it's a terrifically entertaining show.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'243370\' date=\'Jun 30 2010, 09:59 AM\'][quote name=\'xavier45\' post=\'243368\' date=\'Jun 30 2010, 11:27 AM\']The show is getting cutback in the number of airings it has. Starting this week, instead of 10 airings, it is now down to 3 airings. Thursday Nights at 11:00pm and 2:00am. Then Saturday nights at 12:00am.[/quote]
Yes, to say the ratings have been disappointing is an understatement. Apparently, GSN was doing much, much better with reruns of stuff like 1 vs 100. A shame, because I still think it's a terrifically entertaining show.
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Wasn't that the case with the most recent remake of IGAS on GSN, as well -- another strong-formatted panel show?
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Flipping through the channels last night on mute, I saw that one of the subjects in the newest episode's bonus round was Gary Coleman. Since the bonus round usually includes jokes about the person and you know, it's not exactly kosher to make fun of the recently deceased, did they put a note on saying this was taped in advance or did they just go forward as usual?
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'243504\' date=\'Jul 2 2010, 11:18 AM\']Flipping through the channels last night on mute, I saw that one of the subjects in the newest episode's bonus round was Gary Coleman. Since the bonus round usually includes jokes about the person and you know, it's not exactly kosher to make fun of the recently deceased, did they put a note on saying this was taped in advance or did they just go forward as usual?[/quote]
They said nothing. Raised an eyebrow a little at Chez Fred (well, okay, Chez S.O. yesterday), too.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'243485\' date=\'Jul 2 2010, 09:59 AM\'][quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'243370\' date=\'Jun 30 2010, 09:59 AM\']Yes, to say the ratings have been disappointing is an understatement. Apparently, GSN was doing much, much better with reruns of stuff like 1 vs 100. A shame, because I still think it's a terrifically entertaining show.[/quote]
Wasn't that the case with the most recent remake of IGAS on GSN, as well -- another strong-formatted panel show?[/quote]
Sadly, yes. Some fans had legitimate gripes about both shows, but both were essentially solid panel shows that failed to find an audience. At some point, much as I hate to say it, you have to blame the niche genre.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'243504\' date=\'Jul 2 2010, 02:18 PM\']Flipping through the channels last night on mute, I saw that one of the subjects in the newest episode's bonus round was Gary Coleman. Since the bonus round usually includes jokes about the person and you know, it's not exactly kosher to make fun of the recently deceased, did they put a note on saying this was taped in advance or did they just go forward as usual?[/quote]
This is the first episode ever taped for the series, so I would assume it was taped before Coleman's death.
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[quote name=\'mxc0427\' post=\'243531\' date=\'Jul 2 2010, 09:35 PM\'][quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'243504\' date=\'Jul 2 2010, 02:18 PM\']Flipping through the channels last night on mute, I saw that one of the subjects in the newest episode's bonus round was Gary Coleman. Since the bonus round usually includes jokes about the person and you know, it's not exactly kosher to make fun of the recently deceased, did they put a note on saying this was taped in advance or did they just go forward as usual?[/quote]
This is the first episode ever taped for the series, so I would assume it was taped before Coleman's death.
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Which could explain why it wasn't the first one shown, considering there were jokes about Coleman. That being said, most shows still put up a disclaimer of sorts to avoid the "Too Soon!" factor. Most people realize that game shows don't air something taped that day, but a disclaimer wouldn't hurt.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'243504\' date=\'Jul 2 2010, 02:18 PM\']Since the bonus round usually includes jokes about the person and you know, it's not exactly kosher to make fun of the recently deceased, did they put a note on saying this was taped in advance or did they just go forward as usual?[/quote] I would say that applies more to certain kinds of people than others, but I fished the episode out of the trash pile and here were the facts for Gary Coleman:
Ran for Governor of California
Appeared in commercials for a payday loan company, Cash Call
Filed for personal bankruptcy in 1999
Starred on "Webster"
Popularized "Whatchu talkin' bout, Willis"
Attended the Wharton School of Business in 1968.
Nothing even the LEAST bit offensive or insensitive.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'243541\' date=\'Jul 2 2010, 11:42 PM\']Starred on "Diff'rent Strokes"[/quote]
There, Fixed That For You... Sorry?
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[quote name=\'golden-road\' post=\'243550\' date=\'Jul 3 2010, 07:57 AM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'243541\' date=\'Jul 2 2010, 11:42 PM\']Starred on "Diff'rent Strokes"[/quote]
There, Fixed That For You... Sorry?[/quote]No, the fact stated was "Starred on Webster" which as you pointed out, is a dirty deceitful lie.
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You know, given the fact that we saw the first-taped episode and what we saw during another early-taped show, I'm surprised they managed to get more than eight questions in during the bonus round.
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[quote name=\'bandit_bobby\' post=\'243553\' date=\'Jul 3 2010, 01:32 PM\']You know, given the fact that we saw the first-taped episode and what we saw during another early-taped show, I'm surprised they managed to get more than eight questions in during the bonus round.[/quote]
In the second episode we saw (Sarah Palin and Snooki) they completed exactly eight questions before time ran out. (They were almost through the ninth one when the buzzer sounded.) So the contestant would have to have gone a perfect 8-for-8 on a tricky true-false game to win the $10K.
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Caught the debut show on Fancast as well, and enjoyed it...even though it had the contemporary irritant of watching too much stretch. The slower you play, the less money you give away. Still, it was entertaining. It had enough play-along factor and the material was pretty good. One question...does GSN ever spend a nickel buying ads on other cable networks promoting their programs? I remember a few radio spots for one of their projects....but any video ads? For the gazillions Sony and Liberty make, why wouldn't they want to pump up one of their properties even just a little bit?
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[quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' post=\'243860\' date=\'Jul 8 2010, 01:03 PM\']One question...does GSN ever spend a nickel buying ads on other cable networks promoting their programs? I remember a few radio spots for one of their projects....but any video ads? For the gazillions Sony and Liberty make, why wouldn't they want to pump up one of their properties even just a little bit?[/quote]
I saw some Dish Network ads for it on TV Land.
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I figured out what irked me this last time, two things even.
One, as much as I feel like I'm not supposed to gripe about the lack of game play content, I blip through the wraparound bits without watching. I don't know if you could get another complete round of gameplay if you cut them entirely, but I don't watch them at all.
The other thing is that it feels like they've shown all their wares after three episodes. Even though the loose format is supposed to allow anything to happen, it doesn't feel like anything is happening. We get the same style of jokes and questions that look like they came from my Ripley's Believe it or Not game while relying a trick to be right or wrong.
All of the increased jackpots in the world can't fix that feeling of repetition.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'244033\' date=\'Jul 13 2010, 06:17 AM\']One, as much as I feel like I'm not supposed to gripe about the lack of game play content, I blip through the wraparound bits without watching.[/quote]
Then you, my friend. are missing out. Some of them are farking hilarious. The one where Cashmere describes her law-enforcement bracelets is a hoot.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'244038\' date=\'Jul 13 2010, 01:05 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'244033\' date=\'Jul 13 2010, 06:17 AM\']One, as much as I feel like I'm not supposed to gripe about the lack of game play content, I blip through the wraparound bits without watching.[/quote]Then you, my friend. are missing out. Some of them are farking hilarious. The one where Cashmere describes her law-enforcement bracelets is a hoot.[/quote]
While I agree that some of the spots are really funny, I'm also in the camp that says they seem out of place for a show that has as little game content as it does already. If you want to make a sitcom or sketch comedy about these characters, tell me when it's on, because I'll tune in to that too. I've already devoured the website. But a little bit of this and a little bit of that in the half hour doesn't click for me, and I'd just as soon they spent that time in the studio, whether for more material or for more jokes there.
I disagree, however, with Travis' other point, or at least I don't see how it's any different than any other redundant game show (i.e., just about all of them). Sure, some more spontaneity would be swell, but it's hard to be spontaneous when you're crouched down behind a desk with a puppet on your arm.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'244048\' date=\'Jul 13 2010, 01:11 PM\']but it's hard to be spontaneous when you're crouched down behind a desk with a puppet on your arm.[/quote]
How do you think the puppets feel, sitting there with a hand up their asses? :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'244038\' date=\'Jul 13 2010, 10:05 AM\']Then you, my friend. are missing out. Some of them are farking hilarious. The one where Cashmere describes her law-enforcement bracelets is a hoot.[/quote]I shall backtrack a bit. I liked the one from last week where Sebastian is talking to someone-or-other behind a door; that was neat. I guess it depends on the character and the joke. But that's 99/100 of humor anyway. I'll check out the other ones, too.
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'244048\' date=\'Jul 13 2010, 01:11 PM\']If you want to make a sitcom or sketch comedy about these characters, tell me when it's on, because I'll tune in to that too.[/quote] I didn't mention it until now, because I had forgotten just how much I like the weasel character. His byplay with Mickey Rourke ("That one lady...she don't got no points, Lar!") was inspired absurdity. And I like him best of all the puppets.
I disagree, however, with Travis' other point, or at least I don't see how it's any different than any other redundant game show (i.e., just about all of them).
I'm not sure how to explain or rationalize it, but I like to have more game to my show than what LNL is providing. At least Match Game could get a whole game and bonus game within a show. Hollywood Squares could usually play three games plus a bonus of some sort. I will put up with less game if there were more funny, and I don't think the equation is quite right, for me personally.
Sure, some more spontaneity would be swell, but it's hard to be spontaneous when you're crouched down behind a desk with a puppet on your arm.
That is a really great point and one that can't be overstated.
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I'm going to be very disappointed if Weasel doesn't show up again in the Henson repertoire.