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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Lirodon on July 14, 2010, 08:26:11 PM
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With teams of teens and adults (http://\"http://gameshows.about.com/b/2010/07/14/hole-in-the-wall-going-to-cartoon-network-now-casting.htm\")
To me, this is just a big joke. Cartoon Network has been going downhill as a whole, and pretty much the only good things on that channel lately have been Chowder, Adventure Time, and Flapjack. To say that a so-called "cartoon network" has been doing live-action programming is downright ridiculous. And when its Hole in the Wall ... would it work better on a channel like this, or should we not even think about it?
Personally, I think it could have at least worked a little better on Nickelodeon (could have filled the pool with their famous brand of green slime), but still, the fact its coming back at all is just mind-boggling.
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[quote name=\'Lirodon\' post=\'244146\' date=\'Jul 14 2010, 07:26 PM\']Personally, I think it could have at least worked a little better on Nickelodeon (could have filled the pool with their famous brand of green slime), but still, the fact its coming back at all is just mind-boggling.[/quote]
So what makes you think think it'll work better on Nickelodeon than Cartoon Network? Is CN going to fill the pool with dirty syringes or cow's blood instead of slime? Honestly, I like the idea of coming back with kids/teens instead of adults, even though the game is one dimensional.
I remember a couple years ago, Cartoon Network actually ran a promo with their "unknown body" (Think the basic body figure from ModNation Racers painted white) playing Hole In The Wall. Maybe they've been interested longer than we think.
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Well, it might be appropriate for Cartoon Network's [adult swim] block, and I half expect that's where something like this might end up. The article doesn't say, unfortunately.
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[quote name=\'William_S.\' post=\'244177\' date=\'Jul 14 2010, 11:44 PM\'].....
http://www.bingegamer.net/wp-content/uploa...ic-facepalm.jpg (http://\"http://www.bingegamer.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/epic-facepalm.jpg\")[/quote]
Ironically, the no-hotlinking message for that link works just as well.
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[quote name=\'Lirodon\' post=\'244146\' date=\'Jul 14 2010, 08:26 PM\']To say that a so-called "cartoon network" has been doing live-action programming is downright ridiculous.[/quote]
Excuse me, could you tell me what MTV stands for?
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Cable channels have an FCC exemption from Words Have Meanings. Arena Football has aired on Outdoor Life Network.
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'244195\' date=\'Jul 15 2010, 09:14 AM\']Arena Football has aired on Outdoor Life Network.[/quote]
In their defense, it was pretty obvious that the morph to Versus was in progress at that point. :)
/and it's been proven that you *can* play hockey outdoors
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[quote name=\'Lirodon\' post=\'244146\' date=\'Jul 14 2010, 07:26 PM\']Cartoon Network is just a big joke.[/quote]
FTFY. It was much better when they were showing mostly classics and trotting out occasional new things.
Gee, sounds like the gripe of a certain *other* channel.
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FTFY. It was much better when they were showing mostly classics and trotting out occasional new things.
Gee, sounds like the gripe of a certain *other* channel.
AMC? VH1 Classic? ;-)
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[quote name=\'SRIV94\' post=\'244201\' date=\'Jul 15 2010, 01:22 PM\'][quote name=\'Lirodon\' post=\'244146\' date=\'Jul 14 2010, 07:26 PM\']Cartoon Network is just a big joke.[/quote]
FTFY. It was much better when they were showing mostly classics and trotting out occasional new things.[/quote]
I was pleasantly surprised when I ran into classic Tom and Jerry cartoons during the lunch hour on Cartoon Network earlier this week. Tom and Jerry : Cartoon Network :: Card Sharks : GSN?
I can't see Hole in the Wall being on Adult Swim, unless the wall looks like Meatwad and occasionally morphs into Samurai Lincoln.
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They had my viewership a while back when they brought back Looney Tunes cartoons. Ever since they're dead to me.
/Real people on Cartoon Network = fail.
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I think the only time I ever watch the channel anymore is for The Boondocks, and when I can remember, the occasional Family Guy rerun. The former is supposedly ending after this season, and I can now watch the latter at 7:30 on a local channel (although the syndication editing is absolutely atrocious).
They lost me when [adult swim] just got to be TOO damn weird for the sake of being weird.
/Wait, I did like Assy McGee
//Yes, it's probably exactly what you're thinking
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[quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'244203\' date=\'Jul 15 2010, 01:12 PM\']
FTFY. It was much better when they were showing mostly classics and trotting out occasional new things.
Gee, sounds like the gripe of a certain *other* channel.
AMC? VH1 Classic? ;-)
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I was thinking more TV Land, but those would work too. :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'244200\' date=\'Jul 15 2010, 12:06 PM\'][quote name=\'mmb5\' post=\'244195\' date=\'Jul 15 2010, 09:14 AM\']Arena Football has aired on Outdoor Life Network.[/quote]
In their defense, it was pretty obvious that the morph to Versus was in progress at that point. :)
/and it's been proven that you *can* play hockey outdoors
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I'm pretty sure use of the word 'defense' in reference to Arena Football is verboten.
/I once watched a game that finished 28-23
//now *that* was painful
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[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'244218\' date=\'Jul 15 2010, 12:44 PM\']I'm pretty sure use of the word 'defense' in reference to Arena Football is verboten.[/quote]
I chuckl'd.
/damn, I miss Arena Football
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'244220\' date=\'Jul 15 2010, 03:46 PM\']/damn, I miss Arena Football[/quote]
You're telling me. (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Soul\")
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'244223\' date=\'Jul 15 2010, 01:04 PM\']You're telling me. (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Soul\")[/quote]
You, sir, can suck it. :) (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Jose_Sabercats\")
/don't worry, we're both coming back next year (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_Football_League_%282010%E2%80%93%29#Potential_Future_Expansion\")
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'244225\' date=\'Jul 15 2010, 04:10 PM\']/don't worry, we're both coming back next year (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_Football_League_%282010%E2%80%93%29#Potential_Future_Expansion\")[/quote]
I know. It's still amusing that all the winning football teams in the town go away soon after.
Getting back on topic, I'd rather see Hole in the Wall than another lukewarm kiddie komedy, and I'd argue that CN's programming is, in general, moderately better than Nick's.
/Unnatural History sounds interesting, but I'd never get around to watching it
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[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'244226\' date=\'Jul 15 2010, 01:20 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'244225\' date=\'Jul 15 2010, 04:10 PM\']/don't worry, we're both coming back next year (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_Football_League_%282010%E2%80%93%29#Potential_Future_Expansion\")[/quote]
I know. It's still amusing that all the winning football teams in the town go away soon after.
Getting back on topic, I'd rather see Hole in the Wall than another lukewarm kiddie komedy, and I'd argue that CN's programming is, in general, moderately better than Nick's.
/Unnatural History sounds interesting, but I'd never get around to watching it
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I grew up having Cartoon Network as just that: a place that airs cartoons like Scooby Doo(which is by far one of my favorites and that also has a new version of it airing on the channel, which actually is pretty good); i've watched unnatural history before several times and i've actually managed to turn my folks onto it and they enjoy it, that being said I don't know where Hole In The Wall would fit either than Fox, maybe Comedy Central or TBS, but those are long shots.
As mentioned earlier in this thread, CN has aired live action game type shows before and they're really hit and miss, although I guess most networks don't air what they're supposed to air nowadays.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'244225\' date=\'Jul 15 2010, 01:10 PM\'][quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'244223\' date=\'Jul 15 2010, 01:04 PM\']You're telling me. (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Soul\")[/quote]
You, sir, can suck it. :) (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Jose_Sabercats\")
/don't worry, we're both coming back next year (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_Football_League_%282010%E2%80%93%29#Potential_Future_Expansion\")
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I wish Seattle or Tacoma would get Arena Football; the closet we got was the Everett Hawks and they're defunct, I think
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'244225\' date=\'Jul 15 2010, 03:10 PM\'][quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'244223\' date=\'Jul 15 2010, 01:04 PM\']You're telling me. (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Soul\")[/quote]
You, sir, can suck it. :) (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Jose_Sabercats\")
/don't worry, we're both coming back next year (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arena_Football_League_%282010%E2%80%93%29#Potential_Future_Expansion\")
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Wow, you guys are slow. (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Rush\") :-)
/I wish I hadn't given away my big blue foam finger as a white elephant gift last Christmas...
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Go Barnstormers!
That is all.
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Here we go, Nighthawks, (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norfolk_Nighthawks\") here we go...(clap-clap)!!! Wait, what? What do you mean defunct? Damn!
Okay, well...here we go, yet to be named team, (http://\"http://www.ufl-football.com/news/yesvirginiathereprofessionalfootball\") here we go...(clap-clap)!!!
/Excited about this one
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[quote name=\'Lirodon\' post=\'244146\' date=\'Jul 14 2010, 05:26 PM\']To say that a so-called "cartoon network" has been doing live-action programming is downright ridiculous. And when its Hole in the Wall ... would it work better on a channel like this, or should we not even think about it?[/quote] Starter question: do you watch a television show because it happens to be on a particular network, or because you want to watch that show? I could give a rip about poker being on GSN, or Not Cartoons being on Cartoon Network, or Dane Cook on Comedy Central. If people want to watch, they will. If they don't, they won't.
I thought the premise was done after the single episode, but if there are people who will sit through a half hour of it, more power to 'em.
[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'244292\' date=\'Jul 16 2010, 01:46 PM\']Go Barnstormers![/quote]The Spokane Shock sends their condolences.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'244381\' date=\'Jul 17 2010, 05:44 PM\']The Spokane Shock sends their condolences.[/quote]
Must you rub it in? ;)
OBGameShows: Rolf Benirschke played football, except outdoors.
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'244381\' date=\'Jul 17 2010, 05:44 PM\']Starter question: do you watch a television show because it happens to be on a particular network, or because you want to watch that show? I could give a rip about poker being on GSN, or Not Cartoons being on Cartoon Network, or Dane Cook on Comedy Central. If people want to watch, they will. If they don't, they won't.[/quote]
The network does matter to me, because I have higher confidence of the ability of certain networks to produce certain types of shows. Or, at times, I have confidence in certain divisions of those networks. There was a time when the early saturday evening (not Adult Swim) portion of Cartoon Network was a "do no wrong" place for me, because they made strong programming decisions and repeatedly promoted shows that could be appreciated by a more diverse audience. Certainly this is no longer the case. These days, any original one hour fictional program that premieres on USA is going to get plenty of rub just because it's USA, and their track record has been stupendous in the last five years.
OTOH, CN has never had a game show, and their idea of what makes entertaining live action, based on their Canadian acquisitions, makes me have great reservations. And USA promotion of a new reality show would not catch interest nearly as much as, say, a similar show on Bravo.
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[quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'244395\' date=\'Jul 17 2010, 08:35 PM\']OTOH, CN has never had a game show[/quote] They've had (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destroy_Build_Destroy\") two (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrainRush\").
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'244381\' date=\'Jul 17 2010, 06:44 PM\']Starter question: do you watch a television show because it happens to be on a particular network, or because you want to watch that show? I could give a rip about poker being on GSN, or Not Cartoons being on Cartoon Network, or Dane Cook on Comedy Central. If people want to watch, they will. If they don't, they won't.[/quote]
The one point I would add is that of being worried about yet another channel (I'm speaking generically here; not about Cartoon Network or the current case) becoming just another generic cable channel that has a similar lineup to three dozen other channels that are all trying to get the eyeballs of the "Target Demographic". God knows BBC America seems to be going down that route, while the "Weather" Channel and National Geographic both seem to be having more and more of the same sort of disaster docudrama programs and green propaganda. (Heaven forbid I want to get the weather when there might be a thunderstorm approaching. Not that the Weather Channel zooms the radar on any of New York north of NYC, anyway.)
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[quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'244402\' date=\'Jul 17 2010, 08:40 PM\']becoming just another generic cable channel that has a similar lineup to three dozen other channels that are all trying to get the eyeballs of the "Target Demographic".[/quote]
You know a channel has gone generic when it has the trifecta in the lineup.
- Star Trek: TNG
- Law and Order: SVU
- Wrestling
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'244396\' date=\'Jul 17 2010, 07:37 PM\'][quote name=\'parliboy\' post=\'244395\' date=\'Jul 17 2010, 08:35 PM\']OTOH, CN has never had a game show[/quote] They've had (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destroy_Build_Destroy\") two (http://\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrainRush\").
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Mea culpa. Truth be told though, when they were first promoted on air, they were not being promoted as game shows, so I didn't give them too much thought anyway.
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'244403\' date=\'Jul 17 2010, 08:49 PM\'][quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'244402\' date=\'Jul 17 2010, 08:40 PM\']becoming just another generic cable channel that has a similar lineup to three dozen other channels that are all trying to get the eyeballs of the "Target Demographic".[/quote]
You know a channel has gone generic when it has the trifecta in the lineup.
- Star Trek: TNG
- Law and Order: SVU
- Wresting
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Shouldn't COPS be somewhere on this list? :)
The Inquisitive One
/Boondocks for the Win
//Steve Brule for the Fail
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'244403\' date=\'Jul 17 2010, 08:49 PM\'][quote name=\'Fedya\' post=\'244402\' date=\'Jul 17 2010, 08:40 PM\']becoming just another generic cable channel that has a similar lineup to three dozen other channels that are all trying to get the eyeballs of the "Target Demographic".[/quote]
You know a channel has gone generic when it has the trifecta in the lineup.
- Star Trek: TNG
- Law and Order: SVU
- Wresting
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"Wresting"? Is that what they call it across the pond?
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[quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'244472\' date=\'Jul 19 2010, 08:37 AM\']"Wresting"? Is that what they call it across the pond?[/quote]
Oopsie, I didn't notice that. Thanks for spotting the typo. :)
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'244497\' date=\'Jul 19 2010, 03:58 PM\'][quote name=\'Mr. Armadillo\' post=\'244472\' date=\'Jul 19 2010, 08:37 AM\']"Wresting"? Is that what they call it across the pond?[/quote]
Oopsie, I didn't notice that. Thanks for spotting the typo. :)
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Is that why Vince wants us to call it "sports entertainment," then?
re: OT, if not for Batman: Brave and the Bold, CN would be dead to me.
/What's this about "Young Justice" too?