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Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: brianhenke on September 10, 2010, 05:16:36 PM
...As far as I know, Deal or No Deal ends its network/syndication run today.

   So as Howie and co. disappear (except for GSN), I have a question for you: What were your favorite/least favorite memories of DoND?

   My favorite was the one where someone won $5.

   My least favorite: NBC revealing that the million would be won during Olympics ads/the Thanksgiving Day 2008 episode, where the contestant's family were placed in a cage that held live turkeys (and you had to see the ending to believe it).

   Brian
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: Twentington on September 11, 2010, 01:25:54 PM
Least favorite: Hearing that a new game show has taken off, and then disappointedly finding out that it's about thirty seconds of blind-ass luck dragged out to 44 minutes.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: CJBojangles on September 11, 2010, 02:19:07 PM
[quote name=\'brianhenke\' post=\'247283\' date=\'Sep 10 2010, 02:16 PM\']least favorite memories of DoND?[/quote]
"The banker just called and said that he's not afraid of anyone! Next time, someone will play with THIRTEEN million dollar cases!1!"
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: clemon79 on September 11, 2010, 02:42:54 PM
[quote name=\'brianhenke\' post=\'247283\' date=\'Sep 10 2010, 02:16 PM\']My least favorite: NBC revealing that the million would be won during Olympics ads/the Thanksgiving Day 2008 episode, where the contestant's family were placed in a cage that held live turkeys (and you had to see the ending to believe it).[/quote]
"The offer is $37,000. Deal....or no deal?"

"Will you let my family out of the cage if I Deal?"

"Yes, we will."

"Oh. Then NO DEAL, Howie!" <slam>
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: BrandonFG on September 11, 2010, 04:20:48 PM
[quote name=\'brianhenke\' post=\'247283\' date=\'Sep 10 2010, 05:16 PM\']What were your favorite/least favorite memories of DoND?[/quote]
Every episode that aired after December 2005. Thanks to this show, several game shows became very unwatchable for me, mainly because producers think taking five minutes* to ask the name of the 9th president is compelling television. "Fast Forward Television" is not just a category on The Joker's Wild.

Not to mention too many people treating a potential six-figure payday like it's the $50 they deserved to go home with. I understand the "You only live once" mantra, but when I hear someone say "$250,000 is NOT a lot of money!!1!", I shake my head in agony.

*Including a commercial break
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on September 11, 2010, 04:22:09 PM
Favorite memory: Tie between the dumb chick who turned down $400,000 or some other mid-six figure amount to end up with about $4 and hearing it got cancelled.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: parliboy on September 11, 2010, 04:28:29 PM
This show jumped the pony years ago.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: J.R. on September 11, 2010, 06:12:32 PM
Favorite memories: First £250,000 winner on UK DoND, just about any episode of the Australian version.

/He didn't say this was exclusive to the US version.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: Ian Wallis on September 11, 2010, 06:23:21 PM
I think most of the first season's episodes were OK.  Sometime in the second year I just lost interest and didn't really go back to it.  I think I only watched about a dozen syndicated episodes.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on September 11, 2010, 06:26:33 PM
[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'247322\' date=\'Sep 11 2010, 06:12 PM\']Favorite memories: ...just about any episode of the Australian version.[/quote]
Dammit, you stole my answer. :P
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: MikeK on September 11, 2010, 07:43:17 PM
[quote name=\'Steve Gavazzi\' post=\'247326\' date=\'Sep 11 2010, 06:26 PM\'][quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'247322\' date=\'Sep 11 2010, 06:12 PM\']Favorite memories: ...just about any episode of the Australian version.[/quote]
Dammit, you stole my answer. :P[/quote]
Thirded.  The episode where Banoodles got its name is a personal favorite, naturally.  Helma winning €1,495,000 on Miljoenenjacht roughly 5 years ago is up there as well.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: Fedya on September 11, 2010, 09:48:15 PM
Quote
Every episode that aired after December 2005. Thanks to this show, several game shows became very unwatchable for me, mainly because producers think taking five minutes* to ask the name of the 9th president is compelling television.

[...]

*Including a commercial break

A commercial break lasting only five minutes?!  ;-)

As for me, every time GSN shows the Deal or No Deal promo that has the obnoxious guy yelling, "You have no idea, people, no idea", I want to finish his sentence, "You have no idea how much I want to reach through the screen and beat the crap out of you.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: Phil V on September 13, 2010, 12:39:27 AM
[quote name=\'Twentington\' post=\'247308\' date=\'Sep 11 2010, 01:25 PM\']Least favorite: Hearing that a new game show has taken off, and then disappointedly finding out that it's about thirty seconds of blind-ass luck dragged out to 44 minutes.[/quote]
Seconded.

Favorite moments (AKA moments I manage to sit through): Watching the utter greed and stupidity of just about every contestant they put on.  Today GSN had an episode during the MDM.  Woman has one $1M case left and continually turns down six-figure sums, just to play to the end so she can audition on Broadway.  Needless to say, she turned down $530K on the last offer and won $5,000, and my TV has a hole in it.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: clemon79 on September 13, 2010, 12:49:24 AM
[quote name=\'phvHounds2010\' post=\'247360\' date=\'Sep 12 2010, 09:39 PM\']just to play to the end so she can audition on Broadway.[/quote]
But that was priceless (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=16311&view=findpost&p=195754\")!
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: TLEberle on September 13, 2010, 01:18:02 AM
I liked the part where he dropped names that we were all supposed to remember, as opposed to "that one chick who went a round too far and fail'd it".
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: BrandonFG on September 13, 2010, 01:20:30 AM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'247361\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 12:49 AM\'][quote name=\'phvHounds2010\' post=\'247360\' date=\'Sep 12 2010, 09:39 PM\']just to play to the end so she can audition on Broadway.[/quote]
But that was priceless (http://\"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=16311&view=findpost&p=195754\")!
[/quote]
(does some math)

8/25/08...hmmmm...so that means they're close to the first of the two big wins, assuming they go in order. That was another reason I hated this version: the over-promotion all but gave away the fact that the contestant was going to win. Otherwise, there wouldn't be nearly as much promotion.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: Loogaroo on September 13, 2010, 08:18:31 AM
Favorite moment: In December of '09, a contestant on the UK version by the name of Neil goes on a hot streak in the first half of his game. His first five picks don't knock off anything lower than £1000 (and knocks out the penny), he doesn't scratch the Power Five until his eighth pick takes out £35,000, and he keeps the top four money amounts in play with 8 boxes to go. But shockingly, he Deals at 8-box for £35,000, explaining that "the numbers weren't coming to me anymore". Almost everyone in the studio - including Neil himself - thinks he's made a massive mistake. But in the playout, he proceeds to knock out all of the top four amounts, in sequence. The looks on everyone's faces when he takes out the £50,000 to secure a Spanking were priceless.

Least favorite moment: Some retired sergeant from the Army was playing, and carried $1M and one other big number (I think $750K) deep into the game. As the offers get bigger and bigger, the contestant's whiny son keeps begging him to Deal, worried that it's all going to collapse if he plays on. Army guy knocks out the safety net on the way to 6-box, and gets a pitiful $99,000 offer. With no more fallback number and his son imploring him to bail out, he decides to Deal. It's then revealed that he had the million all along, and Private Pyle just screwed him out of a whole lot of money. I was seriously expecting this guy to tell his son to drop and give him 901,000.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: Mr. Armadillo on September 13, 2010, 10:13:55 AM
Favorite moment:  A twenty-six-way tie.  (This far into the thread and no one's said it yet?)

Okay, serious favorite moment:  The first two runs, before they became a parody of themselves.

Least favorite:  The multi-multi-million-case gimmicks that made every game play the same.  When the contestant is down to, say, three big cases, it's more interesting if the three cases have different amounts than the last contestant had, instead of every big case having the same ol' "$1,000,000" plastered on it.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: clemon79 on September 13, 2010, 02:37:33 PM
[quote name=\'Loogaroo\' post=\'247367\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 05:18 AM\']With no more fallback number and his son imploring him to bail out, he decides to Deal. It's then revealed that he had the million all along, and Private Pyle just screwed him out of a whole lot of money.[/quote]
Wow. I thought one of the things the Army was big on teaching was personal responsibility.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: MSTieScott on September 13, 2010, 09:38:14 PM
Curious question -- did anybody on the U.S. version ever win the penny?
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: chad1m on September 13, 2010, 10:04:09 PM
[quote name=\'MSTieScott\' post=\'247457\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 09:38 PM\']Curious question -- did anybody on the U.S. version ever win the penny?[/quote]Yes (http://\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spGDrZLXlWY#t=2m08s\").
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: trainman on September 13, 2010, 11:18:32 PM
My favorite memory was when #7 and #23 showed up at my apartment wearing nothing but high heels, and instead of those damn suitcases, they brought pizza and beer.

Hey, I can have memories of a fantasy.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: TLEberle on September 14, 2010, 01:59:38 AM
[quote name=\'Loogaroo\' post=\'247367\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 05:18 AM\']Least favorite moment: Some retired sergeant from the Army was playing, and carried $1M and one other big number (I think $750K) deep into the game. As the offers get bigger and bigger, the contestant's whiny son keeps begging him to Deal, worried that it's all going to collapse if he plays on. Army guy knocks out the safety net on the way to 6-box, and gets a pitiful $99,000 offer. With no more fallback number and his son imploring him to bail out, he decides to Deal. It's then revealed that he had the million all along, and Private Pyle just screwed him out of a whole lot of money. I was seriously expecting this guy to tell his son to drop and give him 901,000.[/quote]So your least favorite moment is when a guy wins a small fortune because he didn't have the position to keep playing for the Big Fella?

$99,000 is a pitiful offer?

Does not compute.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: Loogaroo on September 14, 2010, 05:14:28 AM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'247486\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 10:59 PM\']So your least favorite moment is when a guy wins a small fortune because he didn't have the position to keep playing for the Big Fella?[/quote]
It had more to do with his son being such a sniveling little coward that he was telling Dad to bail out from pretty much the third offer on. When they showed the million in his case, it was obvious from the look on the contestant's face that he was ready to go all the way if his son didn't convince him to deal.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: BrandonFG on September 14, 2010, 05:19:58 AM
[quote name=\'Loogaroo\' post=\'247491\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 05:14 AM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'247486\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 10:59 PM\']So your least favorite moment is when a guy wins a small fortune because he didn't have the position to keep playing for the Big Fella?[/quote]
It had more to do with his son being such a sniveling little coward that he was telling Dad to bail out from pretty much the third offer on. When they showed the million in his case, it was obvious from the look on the contestant's face that he was ready to go all the way if his son didn't convince him to deal.
[/quote]
I'm a little confused. How many dollar amounts remained, and what were some of the amounts? If it was $1M and nothing else but a bunch of left-siders, then yeah, I could understand taking the $99K.

That being said, that goes back to my comment about how this show influenced so many other obnoxious details on other game shows. I don't give a rat's rear end about what the family/peanut gallery had to say, and I sure as crap don't need their commentary. If you want to show them gesturing to take the money, fine. But spare me the poignant dialogue, esp. from the kids.

Speaking of which, two words: Pony Deal. Sums up my point.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: J.R. on September 14, 2010, 06:08:15 AM
I'll offer up a legitimate "favorite" memory of US Deal: The whole "around the world" trip they did. I thought it was a neat look at how DoND is done in other countries, even though they also brought along stereotypical Americans as contestants.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: Mr. Armadillo on September 14, 2010, 09:56:14 AM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'247492\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 04:19 AM\'][quote name=\'Loogaroo\' post=\'247491\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 05:14 AM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'247486\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 10:59 PM\']So your least favorite moment is when a guy wins a small fortune because he didn't have the position to keep playing for the Big Fella?[/quote]
It had more to do with his son being such a sniveling little coward that he was telling Dad to bail out from pretty much the third offer on. When they showed the million in his case, it was obvious from the look on the contestant's face that he was ready to go all the way if his son didn't convince him to deal.
[/quote]
I'm a little confused. How many dollar amounts remained, and what were some of the amounts? If it was $1M and nothing else but a bunch of left-siders, then yeah, I could understand taking the $99K. [/quote]
He mentioned the safety net was gone, and there were six cases left, so $99k is simultaneously worth taking (if you're risk averse) and pitiful (to someone who only cares about EV, $1M/6 = $167k).

Which, I think, was one of the true charms of Deal...it presented a scenario where not only was there usually an obvious right decision, the 'obvious' decision was not the same for everyone, which ensured the show generated a good amount of healthy discussion.

/forgot about the Around-The-World tour they did
//you're right, that *was* pretty cool
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: dscungio on September 14, 2010, 10:32:13 AM
[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'247493\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 06:08 AM\']I'll offer up a legitimate "favorite" memory of US Deal: The whole "around the world" trip they did. I thought it was a neat look at how DoND is done in other countries, even though they also brought along stereotypical Americans as contestants.[/quote]

I liked the concept of "Around the World," but they purposely picked countries that also had a similar set and the 26-cases and 26-models format like in the U.S....cuz 'Mericans are stoopid.  ("22 boxes, no models and a rotary phone?!  WTF?  Change it.")  Why not see the U.K., the Netherlands, Italy or Australia?  Show us that there is variety in this show's presentation and not every set and game is a copycat of the U.S.




Dean
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: Sodboy13 on September 14, 2010, 10:42:52 AM
[quote name=\'dscungio\' post=\'247512\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 09:32 AM\']Why not see the U.K., the Netherlands, Italy or Australia?[/quote]
Because the U.S. producers wanted to make themselves look good, I would imagine.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: clemon79 on September 14, 2010, 01:48:10 PM
[quote name=\'Loogaroo\' post=\'247491\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 02:14 AM\']It had more to do with his son being such a sniveling little coward that he was telling Dad to bail out from pretty much the third offer on.[/quote]
Thank you for your service.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: TLEberle on September 15, 2010, 12:04:16 AM
[quote name=\'Loogaroo\' post=\'247491\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 02:14 AM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'247486\' date=\'Sep 13 2010, 10:59 PM\']So your least favorite moment is when a guy wins a small fortune because he didn't have the position to keep playing for the Big Fella?[/quote]It had more to do with his son being such a sniveling little coward that he was telling Dad to bail out from pretty much the third offer on. When they showed the million in his case, it was obvious from the look on the contestant's face that he was ready to go all the way if his son didn't convince him to deal.[/quote]Shenanigans. His highest offer of the game in real play was $116,000. A skosh under a hundred grand isn't terrible, and who knows what the guy would have done when the money got to...where it does if the million is still in play?
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: Loogaroo on September 17, 2010, 08:24:45 AM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'247590\' date=\'Sep 14 2010, 09:04 PM\']Shenanigans. His highest offer of the game in real play was $116,000. A skosh under a hundred grand isn't terrible, and who knows what the guy would have done when the money got to...where it does if the million is still in play?[/quote]

That's perhaps true, but look at it this way: this guy was probably the show's best chance at a million-dollar win without the use of a stunt.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: Mr. Armadillo on September 17, 2010, 09:22:21 AM
No way is a guy who had no safety net at six cases 'their best chance at a million'.  Very few people would risk a half-mil-ish offer if the other case was anything less than, say, $50,000 (and a large number would need the fallback to be a lot bigger than that, to boot).
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: TLEberle on September 20, 2010, 12:14:04 AM
[quote name=\'Loogaroo\']It had more to do with his son being such a sniveling little coward that he was telling Dad to bail out from pretty much the third offer on. When they showed the million in his case, it was obvious from the look on the contestant's face that he was ready to go all the way if his son didn't convince him to deal.[/quote]I don't think it appropriate to pin "sniveling coward" to a six year old kid who is seeing big numbers and reacting.

When I was a wee lad, Mom would set the VCR to nab Card Sharks Starring Bill Rafferty. I saw the big money that people were winning, and while I understood what $32,000 was, I really didn't know internally what it was, at least not until I was holding down a job, and a car, and a home, and bills.

I didn't like how the family bench seemed there to create drama (especially when one of the lot wanted to play and the other didn't) but especially when little kids were brought out. If Dad plays on, he looks like a choad because Junior is saying "Please don't gamble my pony/XBox/College/et al". If Dad bails out but had a big amount, doubly so. And if Dad had the chance at big money but had a go at the brass ring and falls, well, he's a choad nonpareil, then, isn't he?

Just like Set For Life, the person playing should get to play his own game. He shouldn't have to listen to family members pleading for him to go/stop, because a kid can't grasp what's involved.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: clemon79 on September 20, 2010, 12:23:05 AM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'247908\' date=\'Sep 19 2010, 09:14 PM\']I don't think it appropriate to pin "sniveling coward" to a six year old kid who is seeing big numbers and reacting.[/quote]
I'm not sure you're talking about the same guy that Tim and I are.

At least, I dearly hope not, because I too would be severely disappoint if you're right.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: TLEberle on September 20, 2010, 12:25:14 AM
I dunno. After a certain point, Contestant On Deal Or No Deal just kinda melds together into one big lump and I can't remember who is who. I just looked up "Army Guy" "won $99,000" "had $1m in case" and reported on what I found.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: clemon79 on September 20, 2010, 01:17:50 AM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'247910\' date=\'Sep 19 2010, 09:25 PM\']I dunno. After a certain point, Contestant On Deal Or No Deal just kinda melds together into one big lump and I can't remember who is who. I just looked up "Army Guy" "won $99,000" "had $1m in case" and reported on what I found.[/quote]
Hey, you could be right. I assumed when Tim referred to the son as Private Pyle that he was of age to be enlisted himself.

Tim, is that the case? Please tell me we're not talking about the guy who Dealt and then as the prove-out went decidedly south, was consoling his *very small child* that his advice was still good.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: xavier45 on September 22, 2010, 01:19:49 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'247911\' date=\'Sep 20 2010, 01:17 AM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'247910\' date=\'Sep 19 2010, 09:25 PM\']I dunno. After a certain point, Contestant On Deal Or No Deal just kinda melds together into one big lump and I can't remember who is who. I just looked up "Army Guy" "won $99,000" "had $1m in case" and reported on what I found.[/quote]
Hey, you could be right. I assumed when Tim referred to the son as Private Pyle that he was of age to be enlisted himself.
[/quote]
I saw the episode a few weeks ago on GSN, and the son was probably in his 20's.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: clemon79 on September 22, 2010, 01:44:29 PM
[quote name=\'xavier45\' post=\'248095\' date=\'Sep 22 2010, 10:19 AM\']I saw the episode a few weeks ago on GSN, and the son was probably in his 20's.[/quote]
Definitely not the same one. then. I am more relieve than disappoint.
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: MyronMMeyer on September 22, 2010, 02:32:03 PM
Favorite moment: Wynetta, of the first Million Dollar Mission, since I was in the audience for that one.  Seeing her daughter turn on her after they revealed she gave up the Million: priceless. Also, seeing DoND in person is intense. It's a great stage show, especially if the game goes the right way. The paid extra I was sitting next to guessed, before the show even started, which case she'd pick and that it would have a million in it. Eerie.

If anyone has that on tape, I'd love to see it. I managed to miss it when it aired.

-M
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: J.R. on September 22, 2010, 05:36:06 PM
[quote name=\'MyronMMeyer\' post=\'248105\' date=\'Sep 22 2010, 01:32 PM\']Seeing her daughter turn on her after they revealed she gave up the Million: priceless.[/quote]
Does anyone know what exactly happened?
Title: Deal or No Deal
Post by: MikeK on September 22, 2010, 06:14:41 PM
[quote name=\'MyronMMeyer\' post=\'248105\' date=\'Sep 22 2010, 02:32 PM\']Also, seeing DoND in person is intense.[/quote]
So is the heat in the studio if the A/C isn't functional.

If the circumstances are right, the game is intense.  The first game I saw in '06 was bland since the only big value left on the board was $750K and the contestant walked after her niece, on the other end of a phone line, pleaded with her to take an offer slightly over $100K.  Unlike the aforementioned pleading, this one was left on the cutting room floor.  On the other hand, the second game from that day was intense since the player left all 8 cases from $75,000 up on the board with 15 left, including a $2M top prize.