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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: gameboy2000 on January 27, 2011, 10:20:48 AM
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http://www.smartmoney.com/spending/rip-off...-1295044732458/ (http://\"http://www.smartmoney.com/spending/rip-offs/10-things-game-shows-wont-tell-you-1295044732458/\")
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I read the article thanks to a Yahoo! link. Pretty damning article, even if you push the fact of taxes aside.
The Inquisitive One
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Who gave JVBT and Mario500 a writing gig?
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'255686\' date=\'Jan 27 2011, 01:41 PM\']Who gave JVBT and Mario500 a writing gig?[/quote]
At least there were no claims of Human Rights Violations in that article.
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My family passed this article along earlier in the week. I found it funny that their opening salvo about contestants needing personality quotes a contestant from "Jeopardy" and Crosswords, two shows that clearly put more weight on game-playing than many of their counterparts.
-Jason
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That's right, game shows are mean and scary and you'll never be a contestant and you can't ever win.
I either expected a call for more civil, scripted programing or an ad for gold.
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The title of the article should be "10 things games shows won't tell you because they figure you are smart enough to know them already".
I was expecting to learn at least something from the article, but nope - not a thing.
Rich
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#2 is also a little misleading. When you "go into a higher tax bracket", you don't pay the higher rate on everything you make - just on the amount over the lower tax bracket's limit.
I had enough problems explaining this to too many of my co-workers when the 15/28 percent tax brackets were introduced in the 1980s.
-- Don
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Most of us on the forum are smart when it comes to game shows, because we're around so many others who already know this information: people in the biz, former contestants, even future contestants who've done their homework. So for most of us, the article isn't really anything we haven't heard before. The only thing that was news to me was the up-to-10-hour wait on Wheel. (Guess I should bring the DS.)
However, I get the feeling that this was written for more casual fans of the genre. Even someone with a modicum of common sense could probably figure out that game show winnings are taxed like any other sort of income, but I would bet that very few people outside the loop realize (for instance) just how rigorously contestants are screened, or what exactly The Powers That Be™ are looking for in a contestant. I know in the course of my auditioning for Wheel, I saw many people who clearly didn't know what they were in for, but I also saw many people who seemed like they were just right on top of it.
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The whole "Remember, you have to pay *gasp* TAXES ON YOUR WINNINGS!" thing, in my opinion, has been done. To. Death.
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[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' post=\'255820\' date=\'Jan 28 2011, 08:05 PM\']#2 is also a little misleading. When you "go into a higher tax bracket", you don't pay the higher rate on everything you make - just on the amount over the lower tax bracket's limit.[/quote]
I actually didn't know this. (That'll happen when you're trusted TurboTax / TaxAct to do the job for you for the last fifteen years.) Good to know.
[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'255823\' date=\'Jan 28 2011, 08:40 PM\']The whole "Remember, you have to pay *gasp* TAXES ON YOUR WINNINGS!" thing, in my opinion, has been done. To. Death.[/quote]
Has no idea what you're talking about (http://\"http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/20060126/richard-hatch.jpg\")
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'255835\' date=\'Jan 29 2011, 01:34 AM\']Has no idea what you're talking about (http://\"http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/20060126/richard-hatch.jpg\")[/quote]Neither does he (http://\"http://bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/richard-hatch.jpg\") and he won't give you a nasty hotlinking message either. ;)
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'255838\' date=\'Jan 28 2011, 11:57 PM\']Neither does he (http://\"http://bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/richard-hatch.jpg\") and he won't give you a nasty hotlinking message either. ;)[/quote]
Did I get owned by a hotlinking message? It seems to work fine for me.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'255840\' date=\'Jan 29 2011, 03:19 AM\']Did I get owned by a hotlinking message?[/quote]Yeah, this (http://\"http://www.diggersrealm.com/dr_stolen_image.gif\") came up until I went to the actual website and saw the image there. Now it works for me, too.
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[quote name=\'chad1m\' post=\'255842\' date=\'Jan 29 2011, 12:24 AM\']Yeah, this (http://\"http://www.diggersrealm.com/dr_stolen_image.gif\") came up until I went to the actual website and saw the image there. Now it works for me, too.[/quote]
Funky. Shoulda cleared cache, I guess.
Thanks for the fix, then. :)
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Someone got paid to write that? And why am I stuck in my dead-end career instead of getting paid for churning out stuff like this. Where to start?
When discussing the tax implications, the author ends with "Net loss: $414.95." Uh, we know what you meant to say, but what you said is that a $10,000 winner is taxed $10,414.95. Plus, if you need TurboTax to e-file a state simple return (i.e., simple income in a nonresident state), you deserve to be out $40.
Paraphrasing, "you are a poor money manager" is a reason? Seriously?
As for the taxed-value on a prize: A couple of years ago -- uh, closer to 15 years, wow -- I had a discussion on the job with someone whose wife was on Wheel of Fortune. She won a motorhome, which she sold in the same tax year. She paid taxes on the resale value. I don't recall anything about her having to go to tax court.
Bright colors are BAD, BAD, BAD for TV. Bold colors good, bright is bad. They could've spent some more time on the clothing you shouldn't wear: no tight patterns like herringbone, for one.
I know this one is a quote, but they chose to run it: "People who do one time on a lark, that's the odd case." Riiiight, it is so odd to see contestants that are not from Southern California. Yes, there are professional contestants, but I don't see it being so widespread like that, especially since there is a wait period between game show appearances.
#1 and #9 are so close, they could become one. I could go on -- like George Carlin's sketch merging and eliminating the 10 Commandments to one -- but I think we've all done that already.
AND -- I see they already had to edit the article to be a little more accurate with the tax-bracket explanation.
Sheeh! Who edits this stuff?
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Isn't there a fairly healthy "professional game show contestant" circuit running throughout the UK?
I know I read somewhere about a guy whose been on like 20 game shows there. David, his name.
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[quote name=\'Otm Shank\' post=\'255936\' date=\'Jan 30 2011, 01:20 AM\']#1 and #9 are so close, they could become one. I could go on -- like George Carlin's sketch merging and eliminating the 10 Commandments to one -- but I think we've all done that already.[/quote]
Actually, down to 2: "Thou shalt always be honest and faithful to the provider of thy nookie" and "Thou shalt try real hard not to kill anyone, unless of course
they pray to a different invisible man than you."
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'255938\' date=\'Jan 30 2011, 02:28 AM\']Isn't there a fairly healthy "professional game show contestant" circuit running throughout the UK?
I know I read somewhere about a guy whose been on like 20 game shows there. David, his name.[/quote]
Rev. David Smith
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[quote name=\'J.R.\' post=\'255938\' date=\'Jan 30 2011, 01:28 AM\']Isn't there a fairly healthy "professional game show contestant" circuit running throughout the UK?[/quote]
Japan has this to some extent as well. Back when civilian quizzes were still en vogue, there was a bit of this, and the celeb shows now do tend to cycle through a set of familiars.
Heck, I'd wager 1/4-1/2 of any given Ninja Warrior field are returning players.