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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: jrjgames on December 03, 2003, 08:15:26 AM
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Hello guys,
Just a quick heads up on something I've been working on for the past few months.
http://www.jrjgames.com/rubiks (http://\"http://www.jrjgames.com/rubiks\")
Please do not email me with questions on how the show works as I can't release that to the public yet, but the format has been approved and all TV rights licensed to JRJ Games. I will be pitching the format soon to networks and producers.
Just a heads up on something that's in the works.
You comments are welcome!
John
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[quote name=\'jrjgames\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 08:15 AM\'] Hello guys,
Just a quick heads up on something I've been working on for the past few months.
http://www.jrjgames.com/rubiks (http://\"http://www.jrjgames.com/rubiks\")
Please do not email me with questions on how the show works as I can't release that to the public yet, but the format has been approved and all TV rights licensed to JRJ Games. I will be pitching the format soon to networks and producers.
Just a heads up on something that's in the works.
You comments are welcome!
John [/quote]
WHo will host? Tab Hunter(who appeared in the Fridays "Hollywood Cubes" skit c. 1981 or 1982)
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 09:26 AM\'] [quote name=\'jrjgames\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 08:15 AM\'] Hello guys,
Just a quick heads up on something I've been working on for the past few months.
http://www.jrjgames.com/rubiks (http://\"http://www.jrjgames.com/rubiks\")
Please do not email me with questions on how the show works as I can't release that to the public yet, but the format has been approved and all TV rights licensed to JRJ Games. I will be pitching the format soon to networks and producers.
Just a heads up on something that's in the works.
You comments are welcome!
John [/quote]
WHo will host? Tab Hunter(who appeared in the Fridays "Hollywood Cubes" skit c. 1981 or 1982) [/quote]
Alright, I'll take that...I knew that would happen, just not in reply #1 :-P
;)
John
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[quote name=\'jrjgames\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 08:46 AM\'] Alright, I'll take that...I knew that would happen, just not in reply #1 :-P
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It shouldn't have surprised you the second you saw Horan's name.
I wish you the best of luck with this, although I have to wonder if you're not 20 years late to the table with it...
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 11:41 AM\'] I wish you the best of luck with this, although I have to wonder if you're not 20 years late to the table with it... [/quote]
An animated series featuring Rubik's Cube lasted just one season. My suggestion: don't let Ron Palillo or Menudo anywhere near this project.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 11:41 AM\'] [quote name=\'jrjgames\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 08:46 AM\'] Alright, I'll take that...I knew that would happen, just not in reply #1 :-P
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It shouldn't have surprised you the second you saw Horan's name.
I wish you the best of luck with this, although I have to wonder if you're not 20 years late to the table with it... [/quote]
The Tab Hunter joke wasn't meant to offend Ricci or his show idea(or Tab Hunter, whose career in his later years is arguably a joke) :) Hopefully someone will look at one or more of Ricci's shows in the near future. Ricci also has a proposal for a new TV version of Trivial Pursuit at his site.
When Wink's version of TP aired in 1993, he partly blamed its lack of success on the fact that the TP craze was a few years before that. The first pilot done for a version of TP came in 1987, hosted by Bob Eubanks for (I think) Jay Wolpert Enterprises. An article on Wolpert in TV Game $how Magazine in the January, 1987 issue mentioned that he was working on such a show at the time.
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[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 12:44 PM\'] [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 11:41 AM\'] I wish you the best of luck with this, although I have to wonder if you're not 20 years late to the table with it... [/quote]
An animated series featuring Rubik's Cube lasted just one season. My suggestion: don't let Ron Palillo or Menudo anywhere near this project. [/quote]
How about giving Patrick Wayne that second shot? ;)
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 12:53 PM\']How about giving Patrick Wayne that second shot? ;)[/quote]
Why not? He's been endorsed by Jim Lange, as we all know now.
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[quote name=\'jrjgames\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 08:15 AM\'] Hello guys,
Just a quick heads up on something I've been working on for the past few months.
http://www.jrjgames.com/rubiks (http://\"http://www.jrjgames.com/rubiks\")
Please do not email me with questions on how the show works as I can't release that to the public yet, but the format has been approved and all TV rights licensed to JRJ Games. I will be pitching the format soon to networks and producers.
Just a heads up on something that's in the works.
You comments are welcome!
John [/quote]
When I was younger I thought about whether something like that could work. I wish you the best of luck, and look forward to seeing how this will translate (and see if you "stole" my idea ;-) )
Good luck!
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 10:53 AM\'] How about giving Patrick Wayne that second shot? ;) [/quote]
Of what?
(By the way, the Trivial Pursuit pilot mentioned above was done by Jay Wolpert, but not hosted by Bob Eubanks. I don't remember who the host was, but I'd never heard of him before and never seen him since. Think of your average bespectacled geek from the mid-80's with a drier-than-average sense of humor.)
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[quote name=\'SplitSecond\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 03:17 PM\'] (By the way, the Trivial Pursuit pilot mentioned above was done by Jay Wolpert, but not hosted by Bob Eubanks. I don't remember who the host was, but I'd never heard of him before and never seen him since. Think of your average bespectacled geek from the mid-80's with a drier-than-average sense of humor.) [/quote]
The only person I can think of who fits such a description was Dieter from "Sprockets". :-)
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Beleive it or not, Rubiks Cube is on an upswing Im told. I will never be as popular as it was before, but as you know anything pop culture has a shot.
And for Wink's Trivial Pursuit...it wasnt that he was too late, the format was kinda boring...no offense to Wink or anyone on here that may have worked on it. They get Kudos for great interactive play that GSN has yet to match...but the game was kinda a sleeper! :)
More to come on Rubiks when I know more!
Thanks for ALL the support!
John
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[quote name=\'SplitSecond\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 03:17 PM\']
(By the way, the Trivial Pursuit pilot mentioned above was done by Jay Wolpert, but not hosted by Bob Eubanks. I don't remember who the host was, but I'd never heard of him before and never seen him since. Think of your average bespectacled geek from the mid-80's with a drier-than-average sense of humor.) [/quote]
No, I did not host that pilot. It was hosted by a man named Steve Morris.
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Can anyone fill us in on how the game was played? Jay Wolpert's Trivial Pursuit, I mean.
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I'm slightly amused that a thread about another highly-touted John Ricci license acquisition comes back to Trivial Pursuit. That notwithstanding...
The crux of the show is that four players play on a modified gameboard (4 spokes instead of 6), trying to make it from their "corner" of the board to the hub (a journey that takes 5 right answers). The six then-standard TP categories were used.
Each player is staked to $250 and players take turns "buying" questions for their clockwise opponent ($100 for a hard question, $50 for a medium question, easy questions were free). That opponent could then take the question of that difficulty level in that category, or change the category. A right answer advances the player one space toward the hub and lights one wedge in the player's pie (each player had a monochrome pie of a different color).
Second round was played in the same fashion, but a wrong answer meant that the player who bought the question got a "kickback" and could answer the question himself. Each player also got a prize hidden somewhere along the untravelled portion of his path.
Third round saw one player getting a car hidden somewhere along the untravelled portion of his path. On their turn, a player could choose to answer a question and move one space (in hopes of uncovering the car) or spin their individual pie - landing on a previously lighted wedge advanced them directly to the hub and won them the game.
Bonus round was very Hit Man-esque. The winner played against his three opponents from the main game and received an extra lighted wedge. Everyone's lighted wedges essentially become "lives". The winner faces off against each player one-at-a-time in a series of jump-in question showdowns. A right answer took a life from your opponent, a wrong answer took one from you. If the winner vanquished all three opponents, she won the game.
Like any other respectable Jay Wolpert game, there were a lot of other complications and details that I've omitted. Feel free to fill them in if you've seen it and care.
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A game show about a Rubik's Cube sounds very intriguing! Good luck with it!
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I hope this venture works out well for you, John.
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[quote name=\'SplitSecond\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 05:02 PM\'] I'm slightly amused that a thread about another highly-touted John Ricci license acquisition comes back to Trivial Pursuit. [/quote]
Yeah very...well keep in mind, I promoted Trivial Pursuit because it was a go at the time.
Please keep in mind that I DID NOT hold the rights to TP, I was working with a producer at the time and the deal...soured...not to get into it.
I'm very disappoited that didn't work!
But we shall see with this as now I hold the reins with this one!
Thanks!
John
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Two questions:
--Won't it be hard to find 54 celebrities to fill all those squares?
and
--Won't some of them fall out of their chairs when the cube is turned face down?
:-)
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Good luck, John...hope it sells!
Chuck Donegan (The Eager "Chuckie Baby")
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this sounds weird. it might be pretty good. who knows. i really see no way possible to make Rubiks Cube into a game show, but kudos for doing it.
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John, have you actually played this game?
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The game has not been play tested yet...but the concept is not that difficult. Although it may be hard to believe, there is a way to make this a game show! ;)
John
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[quote name=\'jrjgames\' date=\'Dec 4 2003, 09:18 AM\'] The game has not been play tested yet...but the concept is not that difficult. Although it may be hard to believe, there is a way to make this a game show! [/quote]
I wish you all the luck in the world, but I think I'm kinda where Chris is. If you haven't even play tested the game yet, how on earth do you have any idea whether the game works for a TV audience? I can think of lots of games that are "not that difficult" that I wouldn't want to spend time watching someone else play.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Dec 4 2003, 10:34 AM\'] I wish you all the luck in the world, but I think I'm kinda where Chris is. If you haven't even play tested the game yet, how on earth do you have any idea whether the game works for a TV audience? I can think of lots of games that are "not that difficult" that I wouldn't want to spend time watching someone else play. [/quote]
Well when i say its not difficult, its a simple format that in its present form I know will work. However as everyone knows nothing ever stays the way it was when it started out...so the format I think is there to raise some eyebrows, im sure it will go through changes once someone gets interested.
John
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It's interesting that you've plopped down the money for the name and made a public announcement about having done so without having even played through the format or gotten anyone interested in it.
I still wish you luck, but all the same, I hope that's money you weren't going to miss anyway.
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[quote name=\'SplitSecond\' date=\'Dec 4 2003, 12:29 PM\'] It's interesting that you've plopped down the money for the name and made a public announcement about having done so without having even played through the format or gotten anyone interested in it.
I still wish you luck, but all the same, I hope that's money you weren't going to miss anyway. [/quote]
How much does that sort of thing cost, anyhow? Or is that varied depending on the licence?
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[quote name=\'jrjgames\' date=\'Dec 4 2003, 02:35 PM\'] Well when i say its not difficult, its a simple format that in its present form I know will work. [/quote]
Confidence is a wonderful thing, but for the record, I get at least one e-mail a week from somebody who's absolutely sure he's got the greatest idea for a game show ever. And naturally, none of them are as good as MY great ideas!
Now, you absolutely deserve credit for locking down rights to a well-known pop culture icon, and that alone may get you some looks. But to blithely use a phrase like "I know [it] will work" without actually having run tests to see whether it works, as either a game or a TV show, lies somewhere between confidence and blind optimism.
im sure it will go through changes once someone gets interested.
Despite the fact that you know the format will work in its current form?
BTW, what exactly is preventing you from sharing at least a little of your format with us? Unlike a lot of the proposals we get here, you've got something that's uniquely attached to a property for which you control the rights. It's not like anyone else will be able to steal your idea and make their own Rubik's Cube game show.
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what exactly is preventing you from sharing at least a little of your format with us?
Um, Matt, you're forgetting that we discourage posting the specifics of members' show concepts, mainly to protect the originator of the idea.
when i say its not difficult, its a simple format that in its present form I know will work
What you have here is a sure-fire recipe for getting laughed out of a TV executive's office.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Dec 9 2003, 11:32 PM\']
what exactly is preventing you from sharing at least a little of your format with us?
Um, Matt, you're forgetting that we discourage posting the specifics of members' show concepts, mainly to protect the originator of the idea.
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Yeah, but how many folks other than Ricci here have genuine concepts that are actually close to getting to production? And how many folks here could feasibly rip off his idea? And get a show in the works before he does?
Now, I'm not saying that he does have all the know-how to get a show off the ground, but judging by his website and the Combination Lock pilot, he's closer than most of us.
Unless there are a lot of producers that read this board as guests that we don't know about, I'd say it's a fairly low risk situation.
But you're paying the bills, after all.
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Dec 9 2003, 11:32 PM\']
what exactly is preventing you from sharing at least a little of your format with us?
Um, Matt, you're forgetting that we discourage posting the specifics of members' show concepts, mainly to protect the originator of the idea.
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But does this matter if the format is protected? 1) I don't know if it is or not, and 2) I'm not asking to see the concept. But I am also rather weary of a pitch that hasn't even tested yet.
Brandon Brooks
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does this matter if the format is protected?
Yes.
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Yeah, but how many folks other than Ricci here have genuine concepts that are actually close to getting to production? And how many folks here could feasibly rip off his idea? And get a show in the works before he does?
I think his show being "close to getting to production" is about as close as my becoming a rabbi.
Now, I'm not saying that he does have all the know-how to get a show off the ground, but judging by his website and the Combination Lock pilot, he's closer than most of us.
To be blunt, if you've never been involved in the production of a game show I don't see where you're qualified to make that statement, particularly when you're basing your judgement on what you see on a web site.
Unless there are a lot of producers that read this board as guests that we don't know about, I'd say it's a fairly low risk situation.
In reality you're probably right. In reality you and I will probably never be audited by the IRS, but you have to be prepared for that contingency. Besides, if a game show based on Rubik's cube were feasible it probably would have been done 20 years ago when it was still a fad and game shows still saleable.
In theory anyone can come up with a game show based on Rubik's cube. The chances of a producer picking up his undescribed and untested idea from here are nil. That doesn't change our policy of not encouraging the posting of game ideas.
Hey, he could approach Bob Boden with it! :-)
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Dec 10 2003, 06:09 PM\']
Now, I'm not saying that he does have all the know-how to get a show off the ground, but judging by his website and the Combination Lock pilot, he's closer than most of us.
To be blunt, if you've never been involved in the production of a game show I don't see where you're qualified to make that statement, particularly when you're basing your judgement on what you see on a web site.
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You're right, I'm not qualified to make that statement, I was just saying that if he's been through the motions of making a pilot, he has to know enough about what he's doing to be a little ahead of some of the rest of us. But I could be wrong.
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I think his show being "close to getting to production" is about as close as my becoming a rabbi.
You might be eating those words soon, Rabbi Chris! ;)
In theory anyone can come up with a game show based on Rubik's cube. The chances of a producer picking up his undescribed and untested idea from here are nil.
Well yes anyone can create a game show based on Rubiks Cube, however I WAS able to acquire the exclusive domestic and international rights to probably the most popular toy in the world based on this "untested" idea and someone IS picking up this idea...guess it was JUST THAT GOOD! :)
More news soon!
John
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[quote name=\'jrjgames\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 06:34 PM\']
I think his show being "close to getting to production" is about as close as my becoming a rabbi.
You might be eating those words soon, Rabbi Chris! ;) [/quote]
Good luck with your show, but you said "close to production" back in December. It is now August.
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 12:53 PM\'] [quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 12:44 PM\'] [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 11:41 AM\'] I wish you the best of luck with this, although I have to wonder if you're not 20 years late to the table with it... [/quote]
An animated series featuring Rubik's Cube lasted just one season. My suggestion: don't let Ron Palillo or Menudo anywhere near this project. [/quote]
How about giving Patrick Wayne that second shot? ;) [/quote]
Nah, I say give Mike Rielly a new shot at hosting !
Good luck with the pitch. Maybe we'll all attend a taping when it gets going. Anyone know how to get to CBS Television City ? : )
-Joe R.
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 07:31 PM\'] Good luck with the pitch. Maybe we'll all attend a taping when it gets going. Anyone know how to get to CBS Television City ? : ) [/quote]
Practice!
Randy
tvrandywest.com
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 09:31 PM\'][quote name=\'jrjgames\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 06:34 PM\']
I think his show being "close to getting to production" is about as close as my becoming a rabbi.
You might be eating those words soon, Rabbi Chris! ;) [/quote]
Good luck with your show, but you said "close to production" back in December. It is now August.[/quote]
Well you of all people should know the process of "hurry up and wait" in hollywood.
John
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[quote name=\'JRaygor\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 08:31 PM\'] [quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 12:53 PM\'] [quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 12:44 PM\'] [quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 3 2003, 11:41 AM\'] I wish you the best of luck with this, although I have to wonder if you're not 20 years late to the table with it... [/quote]
An animated series featuring Rubik's Cube lasted just one season. My suggestion: don't let Ron Palillo or Menudo anywhere near this project. [/quote]
How about giving Patrick Wayne that second shot? ;) [/quote]
Nah, I say give Mike Rielly a new shot at hosting ! [/quote]
I'm sure I could find time in my schedule to give it a shot!! ;) (Mike Reilly may be a better bet, though. At least he has experience in the field.)
But back to seriousness, I wish you nothing but the very best on this project.