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Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: cliffhanger285 on August 25, 2011, 03:45:10 PM
I've always been curious about how those Password wallets were made. Anyone have photos of them or know how to make them?


Thanks,

Bryan
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: Jimmy Owen on August 25, 2011, 04:35:46 PM
They are based on the old McDonald's cardboard French Fry holders.  Put the word in the bottom, secure with a small bit of velcro and voila!
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: Game Show Man on August 25, 2011, 05:39:54 PM
I've always been curious about how those Password wallets were made. Anyone have photos of them or know how to make them?


Thanks,

Bryan

Paging Mr. Clementson...
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: chris319 on August 25, 2011, 05:50:30 PM
He asked about Password, the version that debuted in 1961 I presume. That had a different wallet design than Password Plus. I am not familiar with the original design.
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: cliffhanger285 on August 25, 2011, 05:55:54 PM
I'm sorry - I meant Password Plus. Sorry for the confusion.

EDIT: Actually, either one would be good. I'm trying to recreate them for a Password game I'm having at my house.
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: opimus on August 26, 2011, 07:29:31 PM
The wallets on CBS Password looked liked they were made from leather.They were probably custom made for the show.
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: chris319 on August 26, 2011, 09:37:03 PM
The Password Plus wallets were a simpler design. They can be created from 3" x 5" index card stock and adhesive tape.

Take a 3" x 5" card oriented horizontally. Draw a line from the bottom left corner to a point 15/16" in from the upper left corner. Draw another line from the bottom right corner to a point 15/16" in from the upper right corner. Take another card and make a "sandwich" consisting of two cards. Cut along the lines you have drawn. This will give you two trapezoids 3" in height, 5" along the bottom aspect and 3 1/8" along the top aspect. Draw a vertical line from a point 15/16" in from the bottom left corner (directly below the top left corner of the trapezoid) and 15/16" in from the bottom right corner. Fold both cards along these lines. Apply tape along the 3 1/8" top aspect to form a hinge. Apply tape to the left and right aspects of the trapezoid so that, by squeezing the sides, the wallet will open.

For the passwords, cut some 3" x 5" cards in half. The result will be a series of cards measuring 3" x 2 1/2". The passwords are printed on these cards and fit inside the wallets. You can hold these cards in place with adhesive putty (the kind used to mount posters to a wall). This will enable you to remove the passwords and reuse the wallets. The process was more involved in 1979 but nowadays you can use a printer to print the passwords before cutting these cards in half. Alternatively, you could use very light-tack paper labels.

Once upon a time you could get small circular paper clips about the diameter of a dime. You could use these to keep the wallets closed and to hold the passwords in place. The wallets we used on the show were a little more elaborate in construction but this gives you the basic idea.

Let me know if my instructions need clarification.
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: chrisholland03 on August 27, 2011, 08:35:08 AM
I thought we were talking about the Amity wallets given to contestants as a consolation prize ;D
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: cliffhanger285 on August 27, 2011, 06:46:18 PM
Thank you very much, Chris.

Are these the paper clips you were talking about:
Nifty Clips (http://"http://www.clippa.co.uk/nifty_clip_paperclip_-_promotional_shaped_wire_paper_clip.html")
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: chris319 on August 28, 2011, 01:27:24 AM
Thank you very much, Chris.

Are these the paper clips you were talking about:
Nifty Clips (http://"http://www.clippa.co.uk/nifty_clip_paperclip_-_promotional_shaped_wire_paper_clip.html")
Yes, those would work.
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: narzo on August 28, 2011, 05:36:01 AM
The Password Plus wallets were a simpler design. They can be created from 3" x 5" index card stock and adhesive tape.

Take a 3" x 5" card oriented horizontally. Draw a line from the bottom left corner to a point 15/16" in from the upper left corner. Draw another line from the bottom right corner to a point 15/16" in from the upper right corner. Take another card and make a "sandwich" consisting of two cards. Cut along the lines you have drawn. This will give you two trapezoids 3" in height, 5" along the bottom aspect and 3 1/8" along the top aspect. Draw a vertical line from a point 15/16" in from the bottom left corner (directly below the top left corner of the trapezoid) and 15/16" in from the bottom right corner. Fold both cards along these lines. Apply tape along the 3 1/8" top aspect to form a hinge. Apply tape to the left and right aspects of the trapezoid so that, by squeezing the sides, the wallet will open.

For the passwords, cut some 3" x 5" cards in half. The result will be a series of cards measuring 3" x 2 1/2". The passwords are printed on these cards and fit inside the wallets. You can hold these cards in place with adhesive putty (the kind used to mount posters to a wall). This will enable you to remove the passwords and reuse the wallets. The process was more involved in 1979 but nowadays you can use a printer to print the passwords before cutting these cards in half. Alternatively, you could use very light-tack paper labels.

Once upon a time you could get small circular paper clips about the diameter of a dime. You could use these to keep the wallets closed and to hold the passwords in place. The wallets we used on the show were a little more elaborate in construction but this gives you the basic idea.

Let me know if my instructions need clarification.

now how do I make the lazy susan that was in the host podium to hold my wallets?  What type and size font do I use for the passwords?  The wallets were painted colors, what were the hues used?
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: geno57 on August 28, 2011, 01:08:05 PM
now how do I make the lazy susan that was in the host podium to hold my wallets?  What type and size font do I use for the passwords?  The wallets were painted colors, what were the hues used?


Y'know, I don't normally endorse violence.  But I might make an exception, in one case.  ;^)
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: narzo on August 28, 2011, 03:04:07 PM
now how do I make the lazy susan that was in the host podium to hold my wallets?  What type and size font do I use for the passwords?  The wallets were painted colors, what were the hues used?


Y'know, I don't normally endorse violence.  But I might make an exception, in one case.  ;^)

I was only teasing Chris because his explanation was so detailed it kind of surprised me.
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: Joe Mello on August 28, 2011, 04:06:31 PM
now how do I make the lazy susan that was in the host podium to hold my wallets?
You go to the office supply store and buy one.
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: Mr. Brown on August 28, 2011, 04:38:57 PM

now how do I make the lazy susan that was in the host podium to hold my wallets?  What type and size font do I use for the passwords?  The wallets were painted colors, what were the hues used?
You know, this is why we can't have nice things.
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: chris319 on August 28, 2011, 05:34:53 PM
I hate to feed this question, but for the passwords they found a big, stinkin-huge electric typewriter with a gigantic font. It was loaded with carbon ribbons and Mark Bowerman used to type each password onto three adhesive paper labels: two for the wallets and one for the plastic rack that held the passwords in Allen's podium. Two of those labels were fastened to the half-index cards (2 1/2" x 3") which were in turn fastened to the inside of the wallets with adhesive putty by an I.A. prop person. The font of this typewriter was big -- not quite big enough for Lucille Ball -- but big enough for Allen to read.

The same kind of typewriter was used to type Hal Fishman's prompter copy at KTLA.
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: narzo on August 28, 2011, 08:51:43 PM
Since this is turning into an "ask Chris" thread I do have one serious one I've always wondered.  Did they whisk the celebrities off the set during commercials so they didn't have to talk to the "common folks".  I could never imagine Lucille Ball wanting to sit and chat about life in Nebraska with the contestants for 2 minutes.
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: Robert Carter on August 28, 2011, 10:29:05 PM
I remember seeing that kind of typewriter, used for copy for the original TelePrompTers. Saw it at the CBS affiliate in Nashville, same studio where the syndie Candid Camera was taped (Fannie Flag co-host version) and also Hee Haw.
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: TimK2003 on August 29, 2011, 03:35:26 AM
now how do I make the lazy susan that was in the host podium to hold my wallets?

I wouldn't necessarily call Susan "lazy" if she didn't want to hold wallets while underneath the host's podium. I think she may have had other things in mind. ;-)
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: chris319 on August 29, 2011, 03:38:22 AM
You don't really want to discuss what was in the vicinity of that part of Allen's anatomy, no.
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: chris319 on August 29, 2011, 03:40:36 AM
Since this is turning into an "ask Chris" thread I do have one serious one I've always wondered.  Did they whisk the celebrities off the set during commercials so they didn't have to talk to the "common folks".  I could never imagine Lucille Ball wanting to sit and chat about life in Nebraska with the contestants for 2 minutes.
No, they were not whisked off the set. Usually Bobby Sherman would go up and make small talk, BUT with a representative of Compliance and Practices within earshot. Generally the civilians didn't hobnob with the celebs.

Yes, it's true that C&P had to accompany contestants to the men's/ladies' rooms.
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: geno57 on August 29, 2011, 03:49:34 AM
I remember seeing that kind of typewriter, used for copy for the original TelePrompTers. Saw it at the CBS affiliate in Nashville, same studio where the syndie Candid Camera was taped (Fannie Flag co-host version) and also Hee Haw.

In all of my years in broadcasting in Nashville, I don't think I'd ever heard that Candid Camera had been taped at Channel 5.  I knew about Hee Haw, though.
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: Jimmy Owen on August 29, 2011, 06:50:04 AM
I remember seeing that kind of typewriter, used for copy for the original TelePrompTers. Saw it at the CBS affiliate in Nashville, same studio where the syndie Candid Camera was taped (Fannie Flag co-host version) and also Hee Haw.

In all of my years in broadcasting in Nashville, I don't think I'd ever heard that Candid Camera had been taped at Channel 5.  I knew about Hee Haw, though.
That's when Barbara Fairchild was co-host and T. Tommy Cutrer was announcer (narrator for those of you accustomed to wikipedia.)
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: Robert Carter on August 30, 2011, 02:53:21 AM
I remember seeing that kind of typewriter, used for copy for the original TelePrompTers. Saw it at the CBS affiliate in Nashville, same studio where the syndie Candid Camera was taped (Fannie Flag co-host version) and also Hee Haw.

In all of my years in broadcasting in Nashville, I don't think I'd ever heard that Candid Camera had been taped at Channel 5.  I knew about Hee Haw, though.
That's when Barbara Fairchild was co-host and T. Tommy Cutrer was announcer (narrator for those of you accustomed to wikipedia.)

Fannie Flagg was the co-host while taped in Nashville, at least part of the time; I think Phyllis George may have been in part of the Nashville run, too. Don't remember Fairchild on any run of Candid Camera, and the Wikipedia article on the show does not mention her, though that would not be a definitive authority, I'll admit.

My visit to the studio was in 1978, as a senior at a high school in Channel 5's viewing area. The station used to go to a different school each week for a show called "Spotlight on Schools," where a student crew filmed segments around the school, then visited the studio and did more taping. Got to play with a Chyron, watch the 6:00 news in-studio (hello, Chris Clark!), spin on the turntable used on the Candid Camera set, and visit the prop room where Hee Haw sets were stored. Somewhere out there are photos of me sitting in Archie Campbell's barber chair, standing in the famous cornfield and holding Junior Samples' "BR-549" sign. Loved every second. Wish there was a game-show connection here; only one I could find is the fact that the best surprised subject on CC got some prizes.
Title: So, about those Password wallets...
Post by: BrandonFG on August 30, 2011, 06:10:30 AM
Wish there was a game-show connection here; only one I could find is the fact that the best surprised subject on CC got some prizes.
Fannie Flagg being co-host works for me, given the Match Game connection. :-)

Great story BTW!