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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: jmangin on April 12, 2012, 08:27:38 PM
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During various game nights I've used material from different party/trivia games in order to create a game that didn’t have an official home version. For example, I used words and definitions from Balderdash to play the front game from Wordplay and the cards from Taboo to play Hot Streak (using the taboo words as the key words players could not repeat). We’ve also used the list of words from Catch Phrase (http://"http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/2582/catch-phrase") to play Go.
Have any of you done the same for other shows? I’m curious if there are any games that would offer material that could be used for the front game of Double Talk, or (other than looking up random words in a thesaurus) something that could be used for the bonus game of Wordplay.
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I used Thingamajig to play Go. Isn't Taboo with the predetermined words Taboo, and hot Hot Streak as such?
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Isn't Taboo with the predetermined words Taboo, and hot Hot Streak as such?
The word at the top of the card was the one needed to be communicated to the other players. After one person said a key ("taboo") word, the team continued playing until a second player later used that same key word. The contestants weren't aware of earlier clues since they were wearing headphones before it was their turn to guess/describe the word to the next player.
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A few years back, I "hosted" Monopoly 1990 with a crossword puzzle book. Went over pretty well.
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The word at the top of the card was the one needed to be communicated to the other players. After one person said a key ("taboo") word, the team continued playing until a second player later used that same key word. The contestants weren't aware of earlier clues since they were wearing headphones before it was their turn to guess/describe the word to the next player.
I'm impressed that you got three people wearing headphones at the same time, and glad to see that the game works. Get in.
Three earbuds, this dongle (http://"http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Rockstar-Multi-Headphone-Splitter/dp/B00475K64E/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1334280898&sr=8-3") and it's Your Name Here's Hot Streak. Holy.
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The word at the top of the card was the one needed to be communicated to the other players. After one person said a key ("taboo") word, the team continued playing until a second player later used that same key word. The contestants weren't aware of earlier clues since they were wearing headphones before it was their turn to guess/describe the word to the next player.
I'm impressed that you got three people wearing headphones at the same time, and glad to see that the game works. Get in.
Headphone splitter FTW. I did the same thing for GSC a number of years ago, only I used my own words.
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Some of the cards in Taboo might be helpful for a Super Password night.
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Not just game material itself -- I once turned a Toss Across board into a makeshift "Pyramid" Winner's Circle. Worked pretty well, too. And although I've never actually tried it, I bet the yellow answer board for the "Family Feud" home games would make a great Alphabetics set for "Password Plus."
Brendan
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I bet the yellow answer board for the "Family Feud" home games would make a great Alphabetics set for "Password Plus."
Tried it - it does! And, with a (theoretical) maximum of four puzzles per match, it works for the main game as well.
-Jason
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We used this at one of my GSC's - the top answer on the survery questions for "Family Feud" make great questions for Card Sharks.
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the top answer on the survery questions for "Family Feud" make great questions for Card Sharks.
I suppose it works in a pinch for generating a number, but I used the 1980s PC game for the same purpose around that time. First thing I could see happening is that using the #1 answer narrows the guesses to an expected range.
-Jason
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Thought of another...TriBond (http://"http://www.amazon.com/What-These-Common-TriBond-Board/dp/B002NBJP0A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1334320601&sr=8-1") for Knockout.
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This is a weird one because frankly, I don't think our demographic is likely to have three married couples over for game playing, but the questions in the Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus board game work perfectly for Tattletales.
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The most recent edition of TriBond (Will Shortz edition) contains some "which of these is different" cards in the mix. A few other games are out there with the same principle. If you ever run into an out-of-print edition of The Impostor from Great American Puzzle Factory, you'll have plenty of Knockout material. I can think of several out of print games that were adaptations of game shows. Talkin' Tango from Patch was basically the Chain Reaction bonus game/GO. A game called Vanity Chase is pretty much Bumper Stumpers, right down to the game cards looking like California license plates. I have a game here called In Other Words: Bible edition, which is similar to Double Talk/Shoot For The Stars (Toss Your Loaves Upon The Lakes - Cast Your Bread Upon The Waters). Like with Scattergories, Pictionary and other such games, I would figure the Bible Version would be an adaptation of a regular version. A websearch showed a game called In Other Words from the defunct New York Game Factory. I know this may not be a ton of help right now, but if you do a lot of second hand store/yard sale shopping, you can at least keep an eye out for these titles and check them out for yourself.
Watching the episode from the Game Show Vault has again encouraged me to re-build a home version of Winning Streak because of it's neat end game. So many ways to go...like using an old 30-square Concentration or Jeopardy board tilted sideways to give you the top and bottom rows of 6 squares, and either re-covering the game's original cover slides or just make new ones, along with letter cards. Or just sketch out a game board and use letter tiles from Scrabble for Juniors. I doubt if anybody has ever played all 12 available letters on the Streak board, but a logical idea would be to come up with a list of 12-letter words for the bonus so that every pick is potentially playable. In other words, there would be no such thing as a pick that can't be played because every letter can be found in at least one word. It's just a matter of whether you can think it out.
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In other words, there would be no such thing as a pick that can't be played because every letter can be found in at least one word. It's just a matter of whether you can think it out.
Hmm, never thought of that, but that's true, isn't it? You'd certainly want to play with a crossword solver or something like LeXpert, though, because you'd want to minimize the number of situations where the *only* right answer for a subset of the letters is that 12-letter base word.
(Also, I don't remember from the one episode, and even if I did see any others I would have been three years old: did any letters repeat? Like, did a situation come up where Bill would have to say "Okay, give me any word with an R, a T, two E's, and two N's"? No reason why you *couldn't* do that, but if the show didn't and you were looking for verite, that would a) greatly reduce the number of 12-letter base words that exist, and b) likely increase the number of situations that I describe above where the base word is the only right answer.)
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I felt like we mentioned this before....
http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19384&st=0&p=233480&hl=+home%20+game%20+frankenstein&fromsearch=1&#entry233480
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And well worth talking about again.
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I felt like we mentioned this before....
http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19384&st=0&p=233480&hl=+home%20+game%20+frankenstein&fromsearch=1&#entry233480
Well, two years is a long time to have passed don'tcha know.
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I felt like we mentioned this before....
http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19384&st=0&p=233480&hl=+home%20+game%20+frankenstein&fromsearch=1&#entry233480
Before I comment, genuinely curious to know what your point is here.
(Let him answer, folks. I'm asking him.)
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Good pointers, Master Lemon, when it comes to finding the best 12-letter words. If anyone here has any other insider knowledge about the Winning Streak bonus, I'd love to hear it. It could have been that some of the most popular letters were put up on the board with no repeats and that during testing, Bob may have discovered people rarely went over 5 tries to make words. If you are a sharp player, the odds are with you. Like with Beat The Odds. It seems unlikely that the letters were chosen at random. It would not make sense to throw up letters that would make creating a word impossible, or you wind up being a loser in a game of chance, not skill. The only potential problem with the 12-letter word concept is, as you pointed out, after you have picked your fifth letter and realize the only way to stay alive is to come up with the 12-letter base word (especially if you have duplicate letters), where do you go? Unless you can come up with a legal variation of that word, perhaps with a prefix or suffix, you might get lucky. Otherwise, you'd be smarter to quit - or you are forced to quit - once you hit the base word. So I'm still trying to think of the best concept. I'm open to suggestions and other member input. And, of course, anyone with inside knowledge of the show. Paging Mr. Stewart.....
Maybe a giant jackpot for discovering the 12-letter base word?
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The only potential problem with the 12-letter word concept is, say, after you have picked your fifth letter and realize the only way to stay alive is to come up with the 12-letter base word (especially if you have duplicate letters), where do you go?
Did they indeed always have to be different words? Because, yeah, that TOTALLY breaks the 12-letter word trick.
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Yeah, spent the day on the road today and the driving time gave me a chance to think. And that's when I found the 12-letter flaw. So I guess I'm going to go with one each of some of the most popular letters and see what happens. Maybe a rare couple of duplicates, like double Ts and double Os. Stewart's games always seem to have an interesting hook, even if the format as a whole had weak spots. I revised my old Shoot For The Stars with updated material and put that back together. One of his bonus games...wasn't it on Get Rich Quick...where there were 3 players, 9 letters and 3 subjects? One picked a letter, one picked a subject, and the third had to come up with an answer that fit - clearing the 9 letters on 60 seconds? Making it almost a mind-reading kind of play? You had to assume - or hope - the third player was thinking the same answer the second one thought of? I still think there's a fun party game in there somewhere.
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One of his bonus games...wasn't it on Get Rich Quick...where there were 3 players, 9 letters and 3 subjects? One picked a letter, one picked a subject, and the third had to come up with an answer that fit - clearing the 9 letters on 60 seconds? Making it almost a mind-reading kind of play? You had to assume - or hope - the third player was thinking the same answer the second one thought of? I still think there's a fun party game in there somewhere.
It seems like the Get Rich Quick! bonus would have worked on Scattergories.
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Thank you, sir. It's helping an idea take shape....
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I felt like we mentioned this before....
http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19384&st=0&p=233480&hl=+home%20+game%20+frankenstein&fromsearch=1&#entry233480
Before I comment, genuinely curious to know what your point is here.
(Let him answer, folks. I'm asking him.)
Ok since you were asking me. I simply thought that this thread and the post I went back and found were similar in a way that taking pieces from other games to make newer or other different game show games. That's what I was getting at.
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Ok since you were asking me. I simply thought that this thread and the post I went back and found were similar in a way that taking pieces from other games to make newer or other different game show games. That's what I was getting at.
That's fair. It came off a little as saying "hey, why did they make a new thread for this instead of finding this one from two years ago?" which would have been a tremendously ludicrous complaint, but I didn't think it would be right to call you out for that unless I knew for sure that was your meaning. So I am glad to hear my assumption was incorrect, and I doff my hat and thank you for the answer.
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Maybe a giant jackpot for discovering the 12-letter base word?
This comes not from emulating the game show (with the tournament bracket and the money), but it never even got that far. Usually we would stop after finding five or six good letters, lest we lose the 16 or 32 points built up for it. And part of the game is that if you get an unfriendly string of letters, you should have quit while you had points. Too bad, go kick some rocks.
Edit: That reminds me, I was able to fit the No Lingo bonus game into a deck box.
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My friends and I used the material provided in Name Burst to play You Don’t Say! Three of the names used in the three games we played were unfamiliar to at least one of the players, but the game worked well. We enjoyed it.
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A box game from the late 1980s called "Tony Randall's Word Quest," would be perfect for WordPlay!
A few years ago, Pressman released a game called "Match Mate," which IS the same format as the company used for their "The New Newlywed Game," home version. Only difference between the games (besides title and graphics), in the event of a tie, TNNG used the show's concept of predicting final scores before playing, while in MM, you play an additional round of questions to try to break the tie.
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The reference to Smush in the Does It Need To Pay Out To Sell? (http://"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=23811&pid=294465&st=0&#entry294465") thread made me wonder if there is a game similar enough that source material can be pulled to cobble together a game of Smush at home. Anyone know of something that could be used?
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If you're creative, you can write your own material. I hosted a few games over on another message board, and that's what I did.
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Jeopardy occasionally has a category called 'Jeoportmanteau' that contains clues that fit the format. Search the J-Archive for 'Jeoportmanteau' and you'll come up with 35 clues, which is at least a start.
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Add "Before & After" to that!
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My friends and I used the material provided in Name Burst to play You Don’t Say! Three of the names used in the three games we played were unfamiliar to at least one of the players, but the game worked well. We enjoyed it.
AHA! Name Burst! I'm away from the apartment and I was racking my brain trying to remember that. Yes, Al is right, it did work well.
For any Q&A games with outdated/irrelevant material, the game Bezzerwizzer is a great all-purpose substitute. My roommates and I have done "Tic Tac Dough" and "The Joker's Wild," using a random drawing of Bezzerwizzer's tiles to determine the categories for each game. When we did "Bullseye" for a convention a while back and absolutely didn't feel like writing material for it, we called it "Trivial Pursuit: Bullseye Edition" and put colors on the wheels instead of category names.
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For any Q&A games with outdated/irrelevant material, the game Bezzerwizzer is a great all-purpose substitute.
It is also a damned fine game in its own right.
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For any Q&A games with outdated/irrelevant material, the game Bezzerwizzer is a great all-purpose substitute.
It is also a damned fine game in its own right.
Which is one of the reasons I picked it up. I'm planning on using it for "The Big Showdown" at an upcoming game night, too.