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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: rjaguar3 on May 19, 2012, 01:55:03 PM
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I was looking through this topic http://phantomstemple.us.to/index.php?topic=2313.0 (warning: last I checked, there was a soft registration wall) identifying Legends contestants who appear on more than one episode. Apparently, research by forum members has unearthed the practice of the producers' allowing teams who lost at the moat during the first season to compete again on another episode. I know that most American game shows only allow contestants to appear once, ever (The Price Is Right becoming a notable exception when they instituted the 10-year rule a few years back), but I was wondering whether other games shows have the practice of inviting losing contestants back or allowing them to play again when there is not a production error affecting the outcome of the game.
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Apparently, research by forum members has unearthed the practice of the producers' allowing teams who lost at the moat during the first season to compete again on another episode.
I think inviting back losing moat players would be about equivalent to losing Fastest Finger players getting to try again on Millionaire, and that happened routinely. Granted for that, you had to redo the tryout process, but maybe the kids on Legends had to do the same?
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Granted for that, you had to redo the tryout process, but maybe the kids on Legends had to do the same?
Insofar as there was much of a tryout process for a game show that taped at a theme park, probably so.
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IIRC, Super Password had a "Tournament of Losers"
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There are people on this forum who will know the details better, but I recall that there was some weirdness during a Greed taping where they didn't have enough contestants in their pool and the solution was to give somebody (bodies?) who had just lost another opportunity. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the Legends situation was similarly more about production efficiencies that about actually having kids reapply, retest and replay at some future date. They taped a ton of shows all at once, and rather than having extra kids who might not get to play at all, why not keep some losing kids around as backups for the last few tapings?
/I actually have dreams that involve second chances and Jeopardy. Really.
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IIRC, Super Password had a "Tournament of Losers"
If we're going this route, let's add Karn Feud, and, not necessarily for tournaments, Whammy! and George Gray Weakest Link.
/Did we really need Skyler back?
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IIRC, Super Password had a "Tournament of Losers"
Several shows (including Millionaire) have had a more formal "second chance" for players whose first appearance didn't go well. I think the OP was talking more about regular-play contestants with no mention at all made of their first go-round.
There was also the Jeopardy player a couple years back who managed to get through the audition process and play a second time without getting caught until after the show aired.
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There was also the Jeopardy player a couple years back who managed to get through the audition process and play a second time without getting caught until after the show aired.
Are you talking about the guy who wore the same weird tie to both appearances?
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On "Second Chance," if all three players hit a devil on their last spin, they were invited back for the next show.
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On "Second Chance," if all three players hit a devil on their last spin, they were invited back for the next show.
..,because they'd be returning champions. Not the same at all.
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..,because they'd be returning champions. Not the same at all.
Hey, you got one, Jimmy! Salmon on the table tonight, eh?
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GSN showed an 80s Pyramid a couple weeks ago where Dick and the losing contestant are talking about what "the period" is for the contestant to be able to apply to try to come back. I think the contestant said it was two or three years. I never knew of such a procedure until I saw that.
Along with Price is Right, Family Feud has loosened their eligibility requirements, allowing people whose last appearance on the show was longer than ten years ago to be potential contestants.
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If you consider the various poker shows as game shows, which I don't, the same contestants appeared over and over whether they won or lost.
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..,because they'd be returning champions. Not the same at all.
Hey, you got one, Jimmy! Salmon on the table tonight, eh?
Still trying to figure out how he's trolling...to me he's being 100% serious. Which is worse than trolling considering the subject matter.
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A pre-Thirtysomething Mel Harris is a good example of that Pyramid rule. She played the 20K version in 1979, and again on the 100K in 1985, both times as a contestant (and IIRC, she won pretty big her second time around.)
I wonder how many other examples of Pyramid contestants playing more than once there are.
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A pre-Thirtysomething Mel Harris is a good example of that Pyramid rule. She played the 20K version in 1979, and again on the 100K in 1985, both times as a contestant (and IIRC, she won pretty big her second time around.)
I wonder how many other examples of Pyramid contestants playing more than once there are.
Didn't she have a diff. last name the second time? It might have slipped through the cracks.
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A pre-Thirtysomething Mel Harris is a good example of that Pyramid rule. She played the 20K version in 1979, and again on the 100K in 1985, both times as a contestant (and IIRC, she won pretty big her second time around.)
I wonder how many other examples of Pyramid contestants playing more than once there are.
Didn't she have a diff. last name the second time? It might have slipped through the cracks.
She used "Mary Ellen Harris" the first time and "Mel Harris" the second time... I don't think something like that would have just slipped through.
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She used "Mary Ellen Harris" the first time and "Mel Harris" the second time... I don't think something like that would have just slipped through.
With that common of a last name, and the knowledge that 99% of the time "Mel" on a woman is short for "Melanie" and not a concatenation of two names? I ABSOLUTELY think something like that could have just slipped through.
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Well, regardless, it still fits the topic.
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Anyway, don't you have to tender your SS# during the tryout process?
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Anyway, don't you have to tender your SS# during the tryout process?
That's what I'm guessing; if so, that would sink the "Mary Ellen Harris vs. Mel Harris" ship completely, from the defense lawyer's point-of-view...
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Another possibility with regard to Mel Harris is that Pyramid was perfectly aware that she had played before and they let her play again because she was a good game player. Heck, they may even have quietly invited a number of former players to play their syndicated version in order to have quality games, and Ms. Harris is the only one we've caught because she became famous. I'm not saying that's what happened, I just think it's a possibility worth considering.
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Another possibility with regard to Mel Harris is that Pyramid was perfectly aware that she had played before and they let her play again because she was a good game player. Heck, they may even have quietly invited a number of former players to play their syndicated version in order to have quality games, and Ms. Harris is the only one we've caught because she became famous. I'm not saying that's what happened, I just think it's a possibility worth considering.
This is one of the reasons I'm sad to see that both Bob Stewart and Dick Clark are officially "not coming down for breakfast anymore" (thank you Howie Carr for teaching me THAT phrase back on WRKO-AM, by way of WVOM-FM...)
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Are we ignoring the shows where it's written into the rules that contestants have more than one try? If not, add at least one format of Classic Concentration and the original format of Now You See It, plus Pointless in the UK.
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Are we ignoring the shows where it's written into the rules that contestants have more than one try?
We're trying to.