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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Winkfan on June 18, 2012, 10:07:04 PM
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With the Daytime Emmy Awards coming up this Saturday, here's something to wonder about. Who do you think was the Most Outstanding game show host that has NEVER been nominated for the coveted honor?
I, myself, would be tempted to say the Winkster, but that's too obvious. So I'm gonna go with my 'gut instinct' and say Jim Peck. You could argue that the shows he got didn't last long, or weren't that good; but it's not just how popular a show is/was, but how good a job the host does that should make a difference.
Cordially,
Tammy
P.S. Don't say I didn't warn you.....
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Rolf Benirschke.
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With the Daytime Emmy Awards coming up this Saturday, here's something to wonder about. Who do you think was the Most Outstanding game show host that has NEVER been nominated for the coverted honor?
It would certainly be easier to play the game if I had an idea of who has been nominated?
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I scanned through the Wikipedia articles of ceremonies and noticed that in some years, the following people were listed as dual nominees for the same show:
Dick Clark/Bill Cullen ($20k Pyramid, 1977/4th & 1978/5th)
Bob Barker/Tom Kennedy (TPIR, 1986/13th)
Vicki Lawrence/Bert Convy (WLOD, 1988/15th & 1989/16th)
Bob Goen/Pat Sajak (Wheel, 1990/17th)
Bob Barker/Doug Davidson (TPIR, 1995/22nd)
I wasn't able to find info on the official Emmy site to confirm. Were these people nominated in tandem with their counterpart from daytime/syndication (like Ben Stein and Kimmel/Pimental/Iacono were for Win Ben Stein's Money—although for WBSM both were hosting the same episode simultaneously), were they nominated separately (but listed on the same line by whomever edited the articles)...or is this just wiki bull?
(Based upon Doug Davidson being listed, the third one is my best guess...)
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Wiki bull.
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I scanned through the Wikipedia articles of ceremonies and noticed that in some years, the following people were listed as dual nominees for the same show:
Dick Clark/Bill Cullen ($20k Pyramid, 1977/4th & 1978/5th)
Bob Barker/Tom Kennedy (TPIR, 1986/13th)
Vicki Lawrence/Bert Convy (WLOD, 1988/15th & 1989/16th)
Bob Goen/Pat Sajak (Wheel, 1990/17th)
Bob Barker/Doug Davidson (TPIR, 1995/22nd)
I'd be curious where you found these, because in the obvious places, the nominee lists seem to be correct. These are breathtakingly wrong.
To the original question, it appears that Tom Kennedy never got an Emmy nomination. If that's true, I think he'd be the clear choice.
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I scanned through the Wikipedia articles of ceremonies and noticed that in some years, the following people were listed as dual nominees for the same show:
Dick Clark/Bill Cullen ($20k Pyramid, 1977/4th (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_Daytime_Emmy_Awards#Outstanding_Game_Show_Host") & 1978/5th (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5th_Daytime_Emmy_Awards#Outstanding_Host_or_Hostess_in_a_Game_or_Audience_Participation_Show"))
Bob Barker/Tom Kennedy (TPIR, 1986/13th (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Daytime_Emmy_Awards#Outstanding_Game_Show_Host"))
Vicki Lawrence/Bert Convy (WLOD, 1988/15th (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15th_Daytime_Emmy_Awards#Outstanding_Game_Show_Host.2FHostess") & 1989/16th (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16th_Daytime_Emmy_Awards#Outstanding_Game_Show_Host.2FHostess"))
Bob Goen/Pat Sajak (Wheel, 1990/17th (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17th_Daytime_Emmy_Awards#Outstanding_Game_Show_Host"))
Bob Barker/Doug Davidson (TPIR, 1995/22nd (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/22nd_Daytime_Emmy_Awards#Outstanding_Game_Show_Host"))
I'd be curious where you found these, because in the obvious places, the nominee lists seem to be correct. These are breathtakingly wrong.
To the original question, it appears that Tom Kennedy never got an Emmy nomination. If that's true, I think he'd be the clear choice.
Above are links to the Wikipedia articles added into my originally-quoted post. I didn't add the info to Wikipedia and wasn't claiming it was correct...I was just reporting what I had found and that I thought it was bull.
Looking at one article's history, the Doug Davidson addition was made in 2008 (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=22nd_Daytime_Emmy_Awards&diff=254780007&oldid=245552791") and has been in there since. The same editor appears to have made all the other erroneous edits in the same period during 2008.
Was Bob Goen ever nominated for Wheel, or Bert Convy for Win, Lose or Draw?
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I believe Bert Convy won for Tattletales, so he has one Emmy at least.
I've have to go with Jack Narz' younger bro if he never got one. As a backup, I'd go with the Winker.
BTW, was Rayburn ever nominated for Match Game?
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BTW, was Rayburn ever nominated for Match Game?
Thrice. Never won.
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With the Daytime Emmy Awards coming up this Saturday, here's something to wonder about. Who do you think was the Most Outstanding game show host that has NEVER been nominated for the coverted honor?
I, myself, would be tempted to say the Winkster, but that's too obvious. So I'm gonna go with my 'gut instinct' and say Jim Peck. You could argue that the shows he got didn't last long, or weren't that good; but it's not just how popular a show is/was, but how good a job the host does that should make a difference.
Cordially,
Tammy
P.S. Don't say I didn't warn you.....
I thought Jim did an outstanding job on "The Big Showdown," but with 25 or so other shows and hosts that year, there was no chance for a nom.
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Since I don't know the list, if Jim Perry was never nominated, he should've been for either Card Sharks or SOTC--did a great job on both.
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I'll throw in someone who was underrated. Bill Rafferty. He did a great job on Every Second Counts, Card Sharks, and Blockbusters.
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I'll throw in someone who was underrated. Bill Rafferty. He did a great job on Every Second Counts, Card Sharks, and Blockbusters.
If he was more highly rated, wouldn't he have gotten more gigs, either with more production companies, or more gigs within MG/BT?
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I'll throw in someone who was underrated. Bill Rafferty. He did a great job on Every Second Counts, Card Sharks, and Blockbusters.
If he was more highly rated, wouldn't he have gotten more gigs, either with more production companies, or more gigs within MG/BT?
Rafferty got into the game show hosting gig when they started to disappear, which isn't his fault. I always thought Rafferty would have been better than Ray Combs for Family Feud, but that's a topic for a whole different thread.
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I'll throw in someone who was underrated. Bill Rafferty. He did a great job on Every Second Counts, Card Sharks, and Blockbusters.
If he was more highly rated, wouldn't he have gotten more gigs, either with more production companies, or more gigs within MG/BT?
How many shows did Goodson-Todman release after the fall of 1987? The only one that comes to mind is Match Game.
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I'll throw in someone who was underrated. Bill Rafferty. He did a great job on Every Second Counts, Card Sharks, and Blockbusters.
If he was more highly rated, wouldn't he have gotten more gigs, either with more production companies, or more gigs within MG/BT?
How many shows did Goodson-Todman release after the fall of 1987? The only one that comes to mind is Match Game.
"Feud" and "Now You See It".
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As much as I like Rafferty, having seen the Run For The Money pilot tape, I thought he came off rather weak. The game is so question-heavy, he didn't have time to relax and ad-lib. Kept repeating cliches trying to keep the game moving. It would have worn thin pretty fast. The other formats allowed for more comic reaction or snarkiness as he played off the material or the contestants. Maybe there just weren't that many games where he would have been a good fit. Feud host? I could see that.
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I'll throw in someone who was underrated. Bill Rafferty. He did a great job on Every Second Counts, Card Sharks, and Blockbusters.
If he was more highly rated, wouldn't he have gotten more gigs, either with more production companies, or more gigs within MG/BT?
How many shows did Goodson-Todman release after the fall of 1987? The only one that comes to mind is Match Game.
"Feud" and "Now You See It".
They also did yet another version of TTTT.
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How many shows did Goodson-Todman release after the fall of 1987? The only one that comes to mind is Match Game.
"Feud" and "Now You See It".
They also did yet another version of TTTT.
You could throw TPIR '94 in there too.