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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: Matt Ottinger on June 20, 2012, 05:36:25 PM
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Having failed to stop ABC's Big Brother ripoff Glass House from airing, CBS has announced an original programming idea of its own (http://"http://www.cbspressexpress.com/cbs-entertainment/releases/view?id=32146&shared"). Reads like something The Onion would do, which makes it all the weirder that it appears on the official CBS site for actual press releases.
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This has gotta be fake.
EDIT: and apparently it was. Someone at CBS must have worked for the Onion in the past.
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This has gotta be fake.
EDIT: and apparently it was. Someone at CBS must have worked for the Onion in the past.
If by "fake" you mean CBS wasn't really planning to do a show where they danced on people's graves, then golly, you win a cookie.
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This has gotta be fake.
EDIT: and apparently it was. Someone at CBS must have worked for the Onion in the past.
If by "fake" you mean CBS wasn't really planning to do a show where they danced on people's graves, then golly, you win a cookie.
Was the sarcasm necessary?
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So here's my question about this: what's actionable here? There's any number of formats where you get a group of people together, run them through a preplanned series of events, challenges and eliminations, all while their every move is being recorded, plus you have the confessional diary. If Glass House was better than the forebearer in any way (not only isn't that the case, but the format seems to be Big Brother 2000, and look how well that went), then maybe CBS could prove some sort of harm (but what, that BB's brand or reputation is unduly harmed? That viewers could not tell the difference between Siri/Val and Julie Chen?) but what do they do? "You're being copycats, so please quit it." Win it in the battle of the remote.
The best programs stick around because they were first and done right. No other show will be able to unseat Survivor, Big Brother, The Race, Biggest Loser, et al, unless they can be way better than the original. So far, no one has been able to do that, in my estimation.
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The best programs stick around because they were first and done right. No other show will be able to unseat Survivor, Big Brother, The Race, Biggest Loser, et al, unless they can be way better than the original. So far, no one has been able to do that, in my estimation.
When you're doing a ripoff, you probably don't expect to do as well as the original, you're just hoping to get a big enough piece of the pie to keep going. A handful of music-competition series have managed to do OK in the wake of Idol, so they keep churning them out.
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CBS' big snit is mainly that a ton of ex-BB staff is working on Glass House and they're stealing "trade secrets"...and CBS was also afraid they'd steal some of BB's thunder (and they've been coasting for a while-for example, Big Brother is the only show left on the broadcast networks that doesn't shoot in HD- they say it'd be too expensive to put HD cameras in the house; which was the same excuse they made for Survivor and amazing Race not being in HD until a couple of years ago). It's a moot point probably, since Glass House debuted very poorly...
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Was the sarcasm necessary?
Yes. It's our bonus prize on Masters of the Obvious.
/Well, that plus the cookie.
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Big Brother is the only show left on the broadcast networks that doesn't shoot in HD
"Let's Make A Deal" is still in trusty old Philco-friendly 4:3 format.
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That release is a hoot, legal action or not.
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It's a moot point probably, since Glass House debuted very poorly...
I'm finally getting around to watching it right now.
It's...it's...it's not good.
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It's...it's...it's not good.\
And not in that "let's riff on this as we sorta watch it," either. Bad TV.
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I'm not only not giving this a second week; I'm not 100% sure I'm gonna make it through the hour.
EDIT: I actually made it. I WTF'd. Hard. I will actually give it five minutes into the next episode (it's not like my Tivo doesn't have the room) to see if what I think will happen, happens. Other than that, I simply do not want to live with these people anymore.
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I lasted five or ten minutes. Couldn't they find any attractive people? Were the staff people poached from CBS the wrong ones?
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I supposed that the new program CBS was propositioning was the only way they could put together a proper "I Love Lucy" reunion.
Other than that, it looks like that Kool-Aid CBS had for lunch was awfully bitter. Domino Sugar is on sale at the market this week.
(and they've been coasting for a while-for example, Big Brother is the only show left on the broadcast networks that doesn't shoot in HD- they say it'd be too expensive to put HD cameras in the house; which was the same excuse they made for Survivor and amazing Race not being in HD until a couple of years ago).
Wasn't CBS also reluctant to fully switch to color? It wouldn't surprise me if they're holding out on going HD.
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Other than that, it looks like that Kool-Aid CBS had for lunch was awfully bitter.
Well, if they watched the show, I'm sure they went back for a second, sweet, cool, delicious glass and that right quick.
Wasn't CBS also reluctant to fully switch to color? It wouldn't surprise me if they're holding out on going HD.
Um, it's the only show left. Hardly a result of a network-wide holdout.
It's also unique in that it has a metric farkton of cameras. (I would be surprised if The Amazing Race used more than the fifty-some in the Big Brother house.) I suspect upgrading is an extremely non-trivial process, both logistically and financially.
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Big Brother is the only show left on the broadcast networks that doesn't shoot in HD- they say it'd be too expensive to put HD cameras in the house
Considering how many cameras are in there, and I would imagine many of them are small, pan/tilt/zoom security-type cameras, it would be cost prohibitive and likely inconvenient as hell to have that many HD cameras in the house. I don't blame them for not doing it.
(Anyone know what the smallest network-quality HD camera is, and/or if there are any PTZ security cameras that are HD?)
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and/or if there are any PTZ security cameras that are HD?
There are definitely HD security cameras, so I suspect there are broadcast-quality HD security cameras as well. The question, as we have both said, is one of expense.
(People need to remember, too, assuming the current SD cameras are recording digitally, that switching fifty-some cameras to HD is going to increase the amount of data being pushed around by A LOT. And that also might affect their editing workflow. (Complete conjecture on my part, mind you, but the possibility is definitely nonzero enough to merit pointing out.))
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Folks, yet another reason why you should always view forums in full version if you can. Hence why I didn't see "sense of humor or sour grapes".
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Folks, yet another reason why you should always view forums in full version if you can. Hence why I didn't see "sense of humor or sour grapes".
Makes a huge difference. With that information, I apologize for the sarcasm.
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Wait, wot's this then? You can view the forum in something other than "full version"? What's missing in this sub-par alternate reality?
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Wait, wot's this then? You can view the forum in something other than "full version"? What's missing in this sub-par alternate reality?
Like, on your phone. Unless you have a Windows Phone, which Invision can't be bothered to add support for, even though it's just one farking user agent line.
/not bitter
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Wait, wot's this then? You can view the forum in something other than "full version"? What's missing in this sub-par alternate reality?
Like, on your phone. Unless you have a Windows Phone, which Invision can't be bothered to add support for, even though it's just one farking user agent line.
/not bitter
That's interesting, because I once poked around the forum on my iThing, and didn't even notice that the sub-headers were missing.
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That's interesting, because I once poked around the forum on my iThing, and didn't even notice that the sub-headers were missing.
They might not be. I'm just saying that's a situation where one might see a different version of the board than the regular website.
/I wouldn't know
//because the goddamn thing doesn't work on Windows Phone
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and/or if there are any PTZ security cameras that are HD?
There are definitely HD security cameras, so I suspect there are broadcast-quality HD security cameras as well. The question, as we have both said, is one of expense.
(People need to remember, too, assuming the current SD cameras are recording digitally, that switching fifty-some cameras to HD is going to increase the amount of data being pushed around by A LOT. And that also might affect their editing workflow. (Complete conjecture on my part, mind you, but the possibility is definitely nonzero enough to merit pointing out.))
You're right. It didn't occur to me how costly that can be.
I've read that Big Brother UK is in HD. Now, I have no idea what money Channel 5 is working with and I don't know in what capacity "HD" means, so I don't know if CBS can or can not make the switch. Would it be too costly to film just the eviction nights in HD? Or are they already doing that (I haven't tuned in in a while)?
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Would it be too costly to film just the eviction nights in HD? Or are they already doing that (I haven't tuned in in a while)?
You're not gonna switch definitions and aspect ratios in mid-show. Full stop. As long as the house is in SD, so will be the rest of the show until they flip the whole thing over.
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Folks, yet another reason why you should always view forums in full version if you can. Hence why I didn't see "sense of humor or sour grapes".
Makes a huge difference. With that information, I apologize for the sarcasm.
Accepted. Although I wouldn't have been too upset if you hadn't. :)
And yes, Travis, a mobile version of the site exists on various handhelds as Chris L. said.
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You're not gonna switch definitions and aspect ratios in mid-show. Full stop.
The Cleveland Show's premiere says hi. I can't find video of it. The start of the show began in SD, but went to HD for the rest of the show (and series) when Cleveland left Quahog. It was a cool transition.
Going back to the topic at hand, Chris is right. Flipping from SD to HD and back would look awkward, especially if the HD part is letterboxed for non-HDTVs.
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The Cleveland Show's premiere says hi.
And in return I invite The Cleveland Show to blow me. One, that's a preproduced cartoon, and two, I'd be willing to bet you that what was produced and delivered to Fox was in fact HD from start to finish, for technical reasons if nothing else.
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I will actually give it five minutes into the next episode (it's not like my Tivo doesn't have the room) to see if what I think will happen, happens.
Normally, I curse a TV show for spoiling in the previews.
In this case, however, I would like to thank ABC, for their spoilage has answered my question, and now I never have to watch another minute of this pile of shiat.
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Following in the footsteps of Million Dollar Mind Game and Shark Tank (once you've seen Dragon's Den, it's hard to watch the American version), ABC has programmed the 2p Sunday hour with Glass House. So it remains to be seen whether the Monday at 10 or Sunday at 2 hour will get more ratings.
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I lasted five or ten minutes.
You beat me. Four minutes and I was done.
--Charlie