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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: JMFabiano on July 16, 2012, 07:27:17 PM
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Over at the DVDVR boards, we have a long thread about wrestling footage not known to still exist, if it ever did, that we'd desire the most. I decided to carry this over to the game show field, though I have a feeling I'm revisiting something. Anyway, what "lost" episode(s) would you like to find the most/to see again?
Given my past postings, I think it's no secret that my choices would be:
Any Pyramid episode where Bernadette Peters was one of the celebs (seems to be limited to $10K eps and Cullen $25K)
The week of You Don't Say where Dusty Springfield is on the panel
The Feud '94 episode where Richard addresses a letter criticizing him *AND* Ray Combs, who is mentioned by name. (Was this one seen on GSN in 1997?)
The MG/HS Hour pilot...just because I'm one of the few, the proud, the actual fans of MG/HS. But also I'd be curious to see three-player Match Game, and I remember when the NBC Store in Rockefeller Center actually used a picture of the pilot on its floor tiles to represent Hollywood Squares. (I so wish I could dig up the photo, I THINK it's on one of the CDs I used for saving them back in the day...)
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Any non-GSN episodes of Press Your Luck that haven't resurfaced yet (GSN or in trading circles)
The Shelley Smith & Bill Cullen week of The New $25,000 Pyramid.
The full 1976 episode of TPIR with the first playing of Cliff Hangers.
An episode from the Jack Kelly era of Sale of the Century.
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Any non-GSN episodes of Press Your Luck that haven't resurfaced yet (GSN or in trading circles)
The Shelley Smith & Bill Cullen week of The New $25,000 Pyramid.
The first playing of Cliff-Hanger on TPIR.
An episode from the Jack Kelly era of Sale of the Century.
Only one of those is probably "lost".
For me, any episode of the original Jeopardy! that isn't out there.
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Rolf Benirschke Wheel of Fortune
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I'd like to see an episode of You're Putting Me On after Larry Blyden took over.
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Definitely the 70s era $ale of the Century.
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I would like to see the episode of Concentration where Norm Blumenthal, acting as host, surprised everyone with a gameboard filled with Forfeits and a blank puzzle.
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Hello, everyone,
This is my first post and I'm glad to join all you game show nuts.
My Holy Grail would be "Showdown" with Joe Pyne or the first episode of "I've Got a Secret" with the hastily scrapped courtroom motif.
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The entire series of Whew!
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The entire series of Whew!
Okay, fine, if that's where we're going:
Every surviving episode of every game show, evar.
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For me, Some Fleming-era Jeopardy!
But, my holy grail is the original WWTBAM? pilot back in 1998
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Okay, fine, if that's where we're going:
Every surviving episode of every game show, evar.
I agree, I hope the Library of Congress has carved out a storage room for all the media.
Not even two hours and the thread became a turdling.
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Really, any new $10/20KP would make me happy, but my top two would be the first episode and the one with Billy Crystal's 26-second win. Hypothetically, if there were a tape of one of the Watergate-delayed eps with information that identified its airdate, that would be a huge Honorable Mention.
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Huh. Interesting question.
* In general, the finale of any since-destroyed game show that acknowledged it was the end (such as Eye Guess, where they apparently took out the "STOP!" card for the last bonus game)
* Concentration: 1958 premiere, Downs' last day, Clayton's first (both in January and September '69), McMahon's first and last shows, Ed's only anniversary show (where he and Johnny Carson played while Clayton hosted), first color episode, Teri Coffin's 20th win from 1973
* The Hollywood Squares: 1966 pilot, premiere, first and last Vegas shows
* Jeopardy!: Merv's original What's The Question? runthrough, 1964 premiere, the rest of the September 7, 1966 show
* Password: 1961 premiere, 1971 premiere, last pre-All-Stars show, first All-Stars show, first "big-money Lightning Round" show, anything from when Monty Hall or Betty White hosted
* The Price Is Right: 1956 pilot, series premiere, last NBC daytime show, first ABC show (both versions), 1965 finale, Dennis James' first and last shows
* Pyramid: last $10,000 episode, first $20,000 episode
* Second Chance: Pilots #1-2 and premiere
* Snap Judgment: last episode of the first format, first day of the Password format
* Three On A Match: last day of prize-matching/first day of picture-matching, any episode from the last week or two (where I'm sure Bill was buzzsawing through the material even more than he was in February)
* Wheel of Fortune: last episode with the Buy A Vowel wedge, the episode immediately following it, any hour-long episode, any episode from 1977 (the only year that doesn't have any audiovisual examples), first and last Star Bonus shows, the very first use of the five-and-a-vowel Bonus Round, last day of Thicke's cues/first day of Merv's, anything from the Ohio State Fair week in August 1983 (the first nighttime week for some affiliates in that state)
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My friend Sandy Mumbach was a $20K Pyramid winner--that hardly describes it; she won sixteen consecutive front games before getting to the top of the pyramid. I'd love to be able to show her that appearance.
And I believe composer-lyricist Stephen Sondheim played Password; I bet that would be wickedly fun to see.
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All of the MG'90 pilots.
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And I believe composer-lyricist Stephen Sondheim played Password; I bet that would be wickedly fun to see.
That one is the most tantalizing, because there's every reason to believe it exists along with most of the other prime time Passwords, and just hasn't been aired by GSN.
If the game is "more episodes of your favorite old show", then I want more Three on a Match. Still, when I think "Holy Grail", I think of a series for which absolutely no video is known to exist, especially a successful series. And I think the general consensus of the board tends to be that the 70s Sale of the Century is the biggest current Grail.
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Any episode of Say When!! In particular, the episode of Say When!! where the associate producer's sons appear wearing sailor suits (inside reference). I don't care about the peanut butter commercial.
Any episode of Word for Word, Call My Bluff, Jan Murray's Charge Account or Chain Letter.
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This might be a stretch for a "holy grail", but I want to see this considering my copy of this is long gone, and it was highly incomplete.
I would like the last day of The Family Channel interactive games from December 1994. I was one of the 10 finalists in Jumble (or maybe it was Boggle?), who was to play for a trip to FAO Schwartz in New York City and $2500. The folks at The Family Channel said they would contact all finalists within an hour of the qualifying game from the day before. I knew I did real well, but I didn't get a call within that window. The following day, I decided to do some post-Xmas shopping and to open up my first checking account. When I got home, my sister said The Family Channel called! My sister, 15 at the time and not knowing what the heck she was doing with the interactive games, tried her best. The real funny part, IMO, was how they mangled every bit of information when they displayed the finalists--both my sister's first and last names were misspelled, as well as the city where we lived!
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Any episode of Say When!! In particular, the episode of Say When!! where the associate producer's sons appear wearing sailor suits (inside reference). I don't care about the peanut butter commercial.
Any episode of Word for Word, Call My Bluff, Jan Murray's Charge Account or Chain Letter.
I'm with you on those, and I'd add in a few personal faces: any episode of "Let's Play Post Office" and "Make a Face." And maybe (although I'm not sure I'd want to revisit it) the episode of "It's Academic" I was on in 1973.
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My friend Sandy Mumbach was a $20K Pyramid winner--that hardly describes it; she won sixteen consecutive front games before getting to the top of the pyramid. I'd love to be able to show her that appearance.
Sixteen? How many days does that equal?
(seriously...wow, and in a good way)
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Real answer: Some of the better shows from the '70s -- Celebrity Sweepstakes (besides the final show), syndie Jeopardy!, etc.
Joke Answer: The episode of Match Game '77 where the definitive answer to every question was "boobs."
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-More Who, What or Where Game or Three on a Match
-Hour long Wheel and Squares
-Either of the two other Second Chance pilots
-Any more episodes with Gene Snook (the guy who won Big Numbers with snake-eyes) on The New High Rollers
-The rest of Sale of the Century's 1983 premiere week
Even though no footage exists, a CBS Television Quiz rulesheet or transcript would be exciting.
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For me, outside of the original Sale of the Century, my vote for Holy Grail would be any color episode of the Original The Price is Right, I've Got A Secret, and What's My Line?
I'd also like to see the special daytime Community Chest episode of What's My Line? that was discovered some years ago.
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I wonder if at least the 1967 finale of WML? exists in its original color/videotape form.
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Well, as long as we're free to fantasize...
I wish I could re-see every episode of every game show I ever saw.
They would include that episode of "Eye Guess" in which a contestant was asked by Bill Cullen, "What do you call a person who runs for political office?" and the contestant picked a number, and up came, "A NUT."
Episodes of "PDQ," especially the week that Don Adams and Barbara Feldon made up the home team while "Get Smart!" was still going strong. Also the episodes in which the celebrities were all game show hosts: Peter Marshall, Monty Hall and Tom Kennedy. (Dennis James, of course, was the regular host.)
A 1960s oddity called "Seven Keys" with a towering board of lighted panels that reached all the way up to 100.
Episodes of the original "Match Game" on NBC. I seem to recall a week of shows with Liza Minnelli and Milton Berle. (On that version, when people finished scrawling their answers on cards, they were supposed to raise their hand; I remember Berle raising both hands, prompting my 6-year-old self to exclaim, "What a silly man!") And then there was the time writer Dick DeBartolo skipped out to mug for the camera.
An episode of "Let's Make a Deal" on NBC in which Monty Hall picked a handsome, well-dressed woman who wasn't wearing an outlandish costume, and didn't have anything to "trade" - so she gave up her shoes, and ended up winning them back as a zonk.
Practically all of the above, I'm certain, no longer exists. Something which I'm pretty sure exists, and which I'd love to have a copy of, was Maria von Trapp's appearance on the syndicated "What's My Line?" (She walked out wearing an Austrian costume and signed in as "Miss X." A perplexed Arlene Francis asked if her claim to fame was some kind of accomplishment - "Did you fly over the ocean? Did you climb a mountain?" And host Larry Blyden burst into laughter.)
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Any episode of:
[list=1]- Baffle
- The Wizard of Odds
- Snap Judgment (either format)
- The first run of High Rollers
- The 70's $ale of the ¢entury (either format)
- The Money Maze
More of:
[list=1]- Any Fleming-hosted episode of Jeopardy! (any version) that isn't already available
- The Who, What or Where Game
- The Big Showdown
- CBS Gambit
- Three on a Match
- 70's Jackpot!
- 70's Split Second
- 1971-74 Password
And as for Concentration:
[list=1]- Any episode of the early 60's prime time version
- The first colour episode of the 1958-73 run
- More of the 70's syndicated version
- Any episode at all that isn't already available, really
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I seem to recall a similar thread on that other game show forum (which I will not mention) asking which shows we could "un-destroy." Since some of my choices have been uncovered on the trading circuit in the years since, here's what I'm still yearning for:
1.) The Big Payoff (especially any Randy Merriman-hosted installments)
2.) Call My Bluff
3.) Double Exposure
4.) Dream Girl Of '67
5.) Win With A Winner
Cordially,
Tammy
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Most of mine are from the 70's, so here goes:
The early humble beginnings of Wheel of Fortune from 1975
From The Price Is Right(1972-), the pticing games Finish Line & the Telephone Game(not the Phone Home Game from the 80's) as well as the Shower Game.
Any 70's $ale of the Century(seems to be a runnung theme on that).
A 70's Pyramid where there was a 42-41(or something like that) front game. I vaguely remember seeing that once.
Any episodes from Showoffs not on YouTube as well as a full 1975 Cross-Wits show, Spinoffs, a Gene Wood hosted Beat the Clock as well as the Canadian game show What's the Good Word?
Last, but certainly not least, the first color episode of Flemming J!
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Seven Keys is a great pick.
I'll pass on Joe Garagiola's Memory Game.
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Well, as long as we're free to fantasize...
Episodes of the original "Match Game" on NBC. I seem to recall a week of shows with Liza Minnelli and Milton Berle. (On that version, when people finished scrawling their answers on cards, they were supposed to raise their hand; I remember Berle raising both hands, prompting my 6-year-old self to exclaim, "What a silly man!") And then there was the time writer Dick DeBartolo skipped out to mug for the camera.
Minelli had a week with Dustin Hoffman in 1968, which I consider pretty up there as far as holy grail is concerned. I don't think Uncle Miltie ever appeared on Match Game.
My holy grail: Cash on the Line. I've had it described to me by several people, which of course as per fuzzy 40 year recollections contradict each other. I would like to just see it.
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Still, when I think "Holy Grail", I think of a series for which absolutely no video is known to exist, especially a successful series. And I think the general consensus of the board tends to be that the 70s Sale of the Century is the biggest current Grail.
UCLA holds nine episodes of the original Sale, albeit "noncirculating", and I think that was your point. If we're talking about "successful game with no video known to exist", I think Snap Judgment would be a very high candidate.
I'd also like to see the special daytime Community Chest episode of What's My Line? that was discovered some years ago.
Saywha? Never heard of this one. Could someone explain this, please?
If we can go international, I'd love to see how Reg Grundy tackled the original Price Is Right and Second Chance for Australia, as well as a full episode of the 1970s Price that shows up in retrospectives from time to time. I'd also love to see an episode of the 1950s Wheel of Fortune that aired in America (different game to Merv's, albeit with some general similarities from what I could dig up...and apparently Mike Wallace hosted it later on).
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My friend Sandy Mumbach was a $20K Pyramid winner--that hardly describes it; she won sixteen consecutive front games before getting to the top of the pyramid. I'd love to be able to show her that appearance.
Sixteen? How many days does that equal?
You're kidding, right? Eight days. Over three different weeks--I forget whether her first episode was a Thursday or Friday, but that's one pair; then five shows the following week; and she finished up (and finally won) with the third different pair of teammates on the third week. Remember, too, that this is back in the one-loss-and-you're-out format.
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The one GONG episode I'm still after--featured a tap-dancer named (and no, I'm not kidding) Flash Beaver.
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I'd also like to see the special daytime Community Chest episode of What's My Line? that was discovered some years ago.
Saywha? Never heard of this one. Could someone explain this, please?
So the story goes, President Eisenhower declared September 27, 1953 as the start of the Community Chest drive. To commemorate the event, What's My Line? held a special daytime episode that was aired on all four networks at the time. The strange thing about it was that no reference to the episode was made on the primetime show that night, and the only hint to it was a small note in Gil Fates log book. Apparently, it showed up in an Ebay auction in 2009. I have no idea who it was sold to or where it currently resides, but I'd love to see it.
Source (http://"http://www.tv.com/shows/whats-my-line/episode-174-93154/")
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Mine is the Australian episode of $ale of the Century where the champion won the lot plus the record-setting [color="#0000FF"]$508,000[/color] cash jackpot.
My friend Sandy Mumbach was a $20K Pyramid winner--that hardly describes it; she won sixteen consecutive front games before getting to the top of the pyramid. I'd love to be able to show her that appearance.
My goodness! How close was she to the $20000 limit when she finally swept the Winner's Circle and increased her winnings to that amount?
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I forgot one: along with "Showdown" and the debut of "I've Got a Secret," my holy grail would be "Jackpot" when the $50,000 riddle was missed.
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Any episode of Australia's Family Double Dare or any Nickelodeon game show pilot
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Others have already said pretty well everything I was going to say...just about anything from the '60s or '70s with none (or very little) in existence - shows like Wizard of Odds, Sale of the Century, Baffle, Gambit, Money Maze, etc.
I guess to pick just one - it's one I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned more often: Celebrity Sweepstakes. I'm so glad that the last NBC episode surfaced a few years ago, but I'd really like to see more of this. It was a favorite growing up.
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My friend Sandy Mumbach was a $20K Pyramid winner--that hardly describes it; she won sixteen consecutive front games before getting to the top of the pyramid. I'd love to be able to show her that appearance.
Sixteen? How many days does that equal?
You're kidding, right? Eight days. Over three different weeks--I forget whether her first episode was a Thursday or Friday, but that's one pair; then five shows the following week; and she finished up (and finally won) with the third different pair of teammates on the third week. Remember, too, that this is back in the one-loss-and-you're-out format.
It was a legitimate question, Clay. Come on.
Part of the reason why I asked was because of the format those Pyramids employed- one loss and out, win the Pyramid once and retire- and how the eps would straddle, so I thought there might've been an ep or two where they could conceivably get three games into one episode.
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It was a legitimate question, Clay. Come on.
Part of the reason why I asked was because of the format those Pyramids employed- one loss and out, win the Pyramid once and retire- and how the eps would straddle, so I thought there might've been an ep or two where they could conceivably get three games into one episode.
There really wasn't. You weren't going to get more than that in the way of content. There's a reason that the pattern became two games daily. The three winner's circles was a total rarity.
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There were two other things that could complicate it:
1) If her first game were the second game of the day, her 16th game would be the first game of her ninth show. And that's assuming that ...
2) She didn't have a tie game in game 2 on Friday, because the celebs would have played for the contestants in the Winner's Circle, and the contestants would start a new game on Monday.
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-1987 Secrets amd Rumors pilot
-pyramid episode with Reagan's daughter
-1987 "I Predict" pilot
-Home Shopping Game pilot with Dean Goss as host
-Tattletles episode with Mchael J. Fox
-Any game show episodes with Allan Kayser (who played Bubba on Mama's Family)
-Combs Feud episodes with Rod Roddy sub-announcing
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One obvious one I forgot: The very first episode of the very first "To Tell the Truth," said to be missing.
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-1987 Secrets amd Rumors pilot
-pyramid episode with Reagan's daughter
-1987 "I Predict" pilot
-Home Shopping Game pilot with Dean Goss as host
-Tattletles episode with Mchael J. Fox
-Any game show episodes with Allan Kayser (who played Bubba on Mama's Family)
-Combs Feud episodes with Rod Roddy sub-announcing
Where the hell did you buy your holy grail, Dollar Tree?
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I don't have it it's stuff I'd live to see that's not on the trading circuit.
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Also I would live to see the following:
-70s singer/songwriter Andrew Gold and his family on Feud in 1991
-one-hit wonder Walter En, his episodes of Scrbble, Catch Phrase, and J!
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-1987 Secrets amd Rumors pilot
-pyramid episode with Reagan's daughter
-1987 "I Predict" pilot
-Home Shopping Game pilot with Dean Goss as host
-Tattletles episode with Mchael J. Fox
-Any game show episodes with Allan Kayser (who played Bubba on Mama's Family)
-Combs Feud episodes with Rod Roddy sub-announcing
Michael J Fox was on Tattletales? Maybe he was on the later 80s version, but that was before he met his wife. I think he might've been dating Nancy Mc.Keon at the time.
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There really wasn't. You weren't going to get more than that in the way of content. There's a reason that the pattern became two games daily. The three winner's circles was a total rarity.
And the only real reason you would see three is if the previous day had one because of tiebreakers.
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Last, but certainly not least, the first color episode of Flemming J!
Wasn't the original Jeopardy! recorded in colour from the very beginning?
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Mine is the Australian episode of $ale of the Century where the champion won the lot plus the record-setting [color="#0000FF"]$508,000[/color] cash jackpot.
And this record-setting win didn't send my good buddy Reg into bankruptcy? Aw, what a shame.
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-1987 Secrets amd Rumors pilot
-pyramid episode with Reagan's daughter
-1987 "I Predict" pilot
-Home Shopping Game pilot with Dean Goss as host
-Tattletles episode with Mchael J. Fox
-Any game show episodes with Allan Kayser (who played Bubba on Mama's Family)
-Combs Feud episodes with Rod Roddy sub-announcing
Michael J Fox was on Tattletales? Maybe he was on the later 80s version, but that was before he met his wife. I think he might've been dating Nancy Mc.Keon at the time.
According to EOTVGS he was. Oh yea, I would also like to see gs episodes with our own Randy West as contestant besides PYL and Hit Man.
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I'd like to see the Face the Music pilot with 4 contestants and the more angular set pieces.
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I'd love to see Norwegian "Cross-Wits".
Just because.
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I'd love to see Norwegian "Cross-Wits".
That reminds me that in the early days of cable, one of our educational stations transmitted SCOLA, which at the time was (and perhaps still is) a wild mish-mash of programming from around the world. Through that, somewhere in my VHS stash, I have a Spanish Lingo and a Russian Trivial Pursuit.
Just because.
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Some great picks, especially those older 60s shows like Say When, Call My Bluff and Seven Keys. I'm hoping beyond hope some kinescopes exist for a few 50s shows I would love to see for the first time. Top of the list: Keep Talking, followed by For Love or Money, a CBS daytimer that had a gimmick called "The dancing decimal point." Saw a Life Magazine still shot of it, and I have a British home version. Who Pays? and 100 Grand. A couple of other games that are out there I'd like to see are B&E's High-Low and Dough Re Mi, Big Game, and Dr. IQ.
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Michael J Fox was on Tattletales?
Yes, and GSN ran the episodes. I think he was on with Kari Michaelson, from "Gimme a Break".
Wasn't the original Jeopardy! recorded in colour from the very beginning?
Yes, but only a handful of episodes exist, plus a few black and white clips.
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Wikipedia (usual caveats) says that the original Jeopardy! didn't record in color until later into 1964.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963%E2%80%931964_United_States_network_television_schedule_%28weekday%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964%E2%80%931965_United_States_network_television_schedule_%28weekday%29
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Wikipedia (usual caveats) says that the original Jeopardy! didn't record in color until later into 1964.
Yes, those Wikipedia grids also claim that NBC had a program called "The Today Show" at 7:00 A.M. (At least they link to the correct title.)
I have a TV Guide from May 1964 that lists "Jeopardy!" as being in color; I think it's a lot more likely that it was in color from the beginning than that it switched from black-and-white to color a month and a half into its run.
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I have a TV Guide from May 1964 that lists "Jeopardy!" as being in color; I think it's a lot more likely that it was in color from the beginning than that it switched from black-and-white to color a month and a half into its run.
Oh, it be PROOF ye wantin', eh, lad? (http://"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tvgjeo002.jpg")
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Oh, it be PROOF ye wantin', eh, lad? (http://"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tvgjeo002.jpg")
Golly, that's a lot of game show goodness. Reminds me of growing up in the mid-eighties and having all sorts of choices through the morning.
/oh yes I went there.
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Mine is the Australian episode of $ale of the Century where the champion won the lot plus the record-setting [color="#0000FF"]$508,000[/color] cash jackpot.
My friend Sandy Mumbach was a $20K Pyramid winner--that hardly describes it; she won sixteen consecutive front games before getting to the top of the pyramid. I'd love to be able to show her that appearance.
My goodness! How close was she to the $20000 limit when she finally swept the Winner's Circle and increased her winnings to that amount?
I'll have to ask. I do remember that she was invited back for a tournament of champions--and, yes, won that, too.
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I was reminded of this thing (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWlukTTVavg&feature=related") for a second when we were talking about color broadcasting.
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It was a legitimate question, Clay. Come on.
Part of the reason why I asked was because of the format those Pyramids employed- one loss and out, win the Pyramid once and retire- and how the eps would straddle, so I thought there might've been an ep or two where they could conceivably get three games into one episode.
There really wasn't. You weren't going to get more than that in the way of content. There's a reason that the pattern became two games daily. The three winner's circles was a total rarity.
Fair enough. I didn't mean to be a jerk; I wasn't thinking of the odd straddling possibility. It was eight days, though, as I said, I don't remember whether she started on a Thursday or Friday and finally won on a Monday or Tuesday.
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I have a TV Guide from May 1964 that lists "Jeopardy!" as being in color; I think it's a lot more likely that it was in color from the beginning than that it switched from black-and-white to color a month and a half into its run.
Oh, it be PROOF ye wantin', eh, lad? (http://"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tvgjeo002.jpg")
The same day Get the Message debuted and Missing Links moved from NBC to ABC. Dorothy Kilgallen on Missing Links? That would be worth collecting.
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Fair enough. I didn't mean to be a jerk; I wasn't thinking of the odd straddling possibility. It was eight days, though, as I said, I don't remember whether she started on a Thursday or Friday and finally won on a Monday or Tuesday.
No problemo...I just felt the possibility of three wins in one episode needed to be entertained somewhat. Then again, perhaps it wasn't the best place to do so.
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Oh, it be PROOF ye wantin', eh, lad? (http://"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tvgjeo002.jpg")
Golly, that's a lot of game show goodness. Reminds me of growing up in the mid-eighties and having all sorts of choices through the morning.
Geek that I am, I was more dismayed by how much Channel 9 would have had to cut out of Suspicion (a 99-minute movie in a 90-minute commercial time slot).
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I have a TV Guide from May 1964 that lists "Jeopardy!" as being in color; I think it's a lot more likely that it was in color from the beginning than that it switched from black-and-white to color a month and a half into its run.
Oh, it be PROOF ye wantin', eh, lad? (http://"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tvgjeo002.jpg")
I'd like to see one of those very early Jeopardy!s which were apparently more humor oriented. (Or is that an urban legend?)
Also, as I mention before in a similar thread to this one, the Art Fleming Celebrity Jeopardy in which Wizard of Odds host Alex Trebek was a player.
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Speaking of "Seven Keys," someone has posted the opening of one episode on YouTube - and it's videotape, no less:
http://youtu.be/lB-FyNwy7uY
(Now, how about the rest of it???)
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Oh, it be PROOF ye wantin', eh, lad? (http://"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tvgjeo002.jpg")
Gee, I wonder if I've seen *that* particular episode of "I Love Lucy" on Channel 8. :-P
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Oh, it be PROOF ye wantin', eh, lad? (http://"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tvgjeo002.jpg")
Gee, I wonder if I've seen *that* particular episode of "I Love Lucy" on Channel 8. :-P
Doggone it! I was just about to post almost exactly the same thing.
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I'd like to see one of those very early Jeopardy!s which were apparently more humor oriented. (Or is that an urban legend?)
In The Jeopardy Book, Merv said that in development, they hoped to mine humor from having contestants trip over their tongues to make their questions grammatically correct, but they quickly realized that wouldn't work. I saw a test episode that was probably produced pretty close to the premiere, and not only was that approach not funny, but it made Fleming look like an anal-retentive jerk. The example that's stuck with me is a Comic Strips category. The clue is "In the 25th Century" and the player responds with "Who is Buck Rogers?". He eventually gets credit for it, but not before he's goaded and chided into saying something like "When does the action in Buck Rogers take place?" The correction added nothing to the game, certainly not humor, and really just came across as a pain.
The idea that Jeopardy originally aimed for humor in its content may have come from Maxine Fabe's old book. She mentions the old Steve Allen "Answer Man" routine (similar to what Carson would do later with Carnac the Magnificent) and then claims, without any substantiation, that NBC was expecting Merv's show to be funny too.
Also, as I mention before in a similar thread to this one, the Art Fleming Celebrity Jeopardy in which Wizard of Odds host Alex Trebek was a player.
That (like the Sondheim shows) is one that people even outside our fandom would probably find interesting.
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The entire run of $10,000 and $20,000 Pyramid that is it for me
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I'd like to see one of those very early Jeopardy!s which were apparently more humor oriented. (Or is that an urban legend?)
In The Jeopardy Book, Merv said that in development, they hoped to mine humor from having contestants trip over their tongues to make their questions grammatically correct, but they quickly realized that wouldn't work. I saw a test episode that was probably produced pretty close to the premiere, and not only was that approach not funny, but it made Fleming look like an anal-retentive jerk. The example that's stuck with me is a Comic Strips category. The clue is "In the 25th Century" and the player responds with "Who is Buck Rogers?". He eventually gets credit for it, but not before he's goaded and chided into saying something like "When does the action in Buck Rogers take place?" The correction added nothing to the game, certainly not humor, and really just came across as a pain.
That explains why the first edition of the home game has these rather odd types of responses. Under the category "Battles," for example, is this answer: "This country won the great sea battle of 1588." The correct question, according to the booklet: "What did England do to the Spanish Armada?"
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I have a TV Guide from May 1964 that lists "Jeopardy!" as being in color; I think it's a lot more likely that it was in color from the beginning than that it switched from black-and-white to color a month and a half into its run.
Oh, it be PROOF ye wantin', eh, lad? (http://"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tvgjeo002.jpg")
Not to threadjack, but which edition is this?
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The entire run of $10,000 and $20,000 Pyramid that is it for me
That's not a grail, that's a goddamn swimming pool.
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Video: NBC's Match Game with James Brown as a celebrity captain.
Audio: The Money Maze music package.
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Oh, it be PROOF ye wantin', eh, lad? (http://"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tvgjeo002.jpg")
Not to threadjack, but which edition is this?
It's a bound Iowa edition. I have mostly bound editions from the late 50s through 1967 or so that I use as reference for stuff just like this.
I'll see your threadjack and raise it a crass commercial message. If anybody wants to come get them, I'm selling a lot of others (http://"http://lansing.craigslist.org/bks/3148460120.html").
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Matt, If you don't get a buyer, I am interested even though I already have them (I'm in Saginaw). Whatever you do, don't toss them.
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Interesting that it's an Iowa edition. There are some editions from the '60s that are much easier to find than others. I've got a number of Iowa editions from the same era.
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While we're on the subject of vintage Jeopardy!, here's another addition to my list:
The weekly 1974-1975 syndicated edition. Seeing that one photo on TVparty makes me interested in seeing it. It seems Art Fleming was dressed in a tuxedo for that version.
I also wonder what is known about the production information. Was it bicycled? Were all 39 episodes taped before the 1/3/75 daytime finale? Was it really costly putting up the special lights for this edition?
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Oh, it be PROOF ye wantin', eh, lad? (http://"http://userdata.acd.net/ottinger/tvgjeo002.jpg")
Not to threadjack, but which edition is this?
It's a bound Iowa edition. I have mostly bound editions from the late 50s through 1967 or so that I use as reference for stuff just like this.
I'll see your threadjack and raise it a crass commercial message. If anybody wants to come get them, I'm selling a lot of others (http://"http://lansing.craigslist.org/bks/3148460120.html").
I think you could consider that a holy grail...of sorts. ;)
(fourteen boxes full of old TV Guides...I am suddenly curious as to what shipping might have been and how you would have shipped them, Matt.)
Does anybody know if the original syndicated Jeopardy! was tossed aside or not? Because I would just have to see one episode to prove whether or not Art Fleming's gaudy wardrobe existed or not.
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(fourteen boxes full of old TV Guides...I am suddenly curious as to what shipping might have been and how you would have shipped them, Matt.)
Didn't even bother to try. I know how much shipping is for boxes of empty DVD cases, and these are SO much heavier. Easily hundreds of dollars.
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Matt, If you don't get a buyer, I am interested even though I already have them (I'm in Saginaw). Whatever you do, don't toss them.
Ditto. I've been meaning to make a Michigan trip anyway. (We're going to New Buffalo this weekend.)
As for wants, I was always a huge fan of The Money Maze, and would love to see a few episodes of the regular series. I was 12 when it aired, so most of what's on my web page (which has since moved onto other pages) is taken as gospel. The format of the series was nothing like the pilot (it seemed to have worked a lot better), so it would be nice to check it out. But I guess I blew that chance by not being at home the night Nick Clooney called (I am not kidding).
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Interesting that it's an Iowa edition. There are some editions from the '60s that are much easier to find than others. I've got a number of Iowa editions from the same era.
Lots of room to store TV Guides in those big Iowa basements.
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Matt, If you don't get a buyer, I am interested even though I already have them (I'm in Saginaw). Whatever you do, don't toss them.
Ditto. I've been meaning to make a Michigan trip anyway. (We're going to New Buffalo this weekend.)
As for wants, I was always a huge fan of The Money Maze, and would love to see a few episodes of the regular series. I was 12 when it aired, so most of what's on my web page (which has since moved onto other pages) is taken as gospel. The format of the series was nothing like the pilot (it seemed to have worked a lot better), so it would be nice to check it out. But I guess I blew that chance by not being at home the night Nick Clooney called (I am not kidding).
The series was much better than the pilot. Check out the museum of Tv/radio in NYC - they have a copy, along with High Rollers from 74. Good stuff.
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Might I add "Baffle" and "The Big Showdown", preferably one with a $10,000 win.
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This doesn't even top my Pyramid list, but I'd still consider it a huge find if someone located the first $20,000 win.
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Two early Heatter-Quigley efforts: Celebrity Game and People Will Talk. Also interesting would be Your First Impression and Your Surprise Package.
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The couple of episodes of The Celebrity Game circulating aren't bad... but the Hollywood Squares magic is definitely missing. My personal holy grails would be an episode of Wheel of Fortune with the "Buy a Vowel" space (just to see how stupid it really was) and an episode from the original What's My Line in color.
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Just now found this thread and havent read all the way through it..
My HG of Game shows:
National:any regular Concentration Shows from 1966-72
More Cullen evening TPIR from ABC (1963-65)
Early NBC Hollywood Squares 1966-70 daytime
Locally, I'd love to find one episode of Quick As A Wink, the show (Along with the Big 5/Upbeat Show) that launched Don Webster's long career at WEWS-TV 5 in Cleveland..
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I'd love to see the NFL Trivia Game Wth David Sparks ad announced by Art James.
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Someone sent me a cd with audio of a May 1963 episode of Seven Keys off WEWS Channel 5 Cleveland-complete with commercials. I posted it a couple years ago in the Video section but can repost it here when I get home.
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[media]http://youtu.be/ZDXcRsOLMsc[/media]
Heres that audio from Seven Keys-Friday May 24, 1963 (11:30-12 Noon)-Incuding Commercials and station ID at the beginning..I realize its not the same without the real video..
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Merrill sure got a lot of mileage out of the same idea: The Celebrity Game (Parks version and Reiner version), Funny You Should Ask, People Will Talk, The Hollywood Squares and Battlestars.
My Holy Grail pick is for the Carl Reiner version of The Celebrity Game, the one with the chandeliers and harp music.
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Merrill sure got a lot of mileage out of the same idea: The Celebrity Game (Parks version and Reiner version), Funny You Should Ask, People Will Talk, The Hollywood Squares and Battlestars.
You forgot All-Star Blitz. The guy recycled a concept almost as much as Bob Stewart did, except Bob had more than one concept.
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Merrill sure got a lot of mileage out of the same idea: The Celebrity Game (Parks version and Reiner version), Funny You Should Ask, People Will Talk, The Hollywood Squares and Battlestars.
You forgot All-Star Blitz. The guy recycled a concept almost as much as Bob Stewart did, except Bob had more than one concept.
Ah, so I did.
Did a typical All-Star Blitz panel contain Jan Murray, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Gypsy Rose Lee or a younger and less drunk Paul Lynde? Perhaps that's what threw me off the scent.
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And I'm also being unfair to Bob, come to think of it. Lord knows Heatter has tried to slap a new coat of wax on High Rollers in about 47 different ways.
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And I'm also being unfair to Bob, come to think of it. Lord knows Heatter has tried to slap a new coat of wax on High Rollers in about 47 different ways.
Which version of Gambit are we on now?
/At least give him credit for not bringing back Hot Seat.
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How about theme songs/music? I'd like a clean version of the Hit Man theme, and I think it goes without saying that most of us wish the Whew! music package still existed.
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That reminds me. I wonder how the restoration process is going for the music package?
Here's the picture of the tape box
http://tvpmm.com/whew/WHEWBox.jpg
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http://tvpmm.com/whew/WHEWBox.jpg
Subscribers only, champ.
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A more universally viewable link: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1551416&l=437ac06243&id=137270176287768
From what I hear, the restoration went great, and what's on the label is exactly what was on the tape. The museum is holding on to the music for the time being due to the incident with the Legends of the Hidden Temple music being posted on other sites and David Stanley's reaction. It seems it will be posted eventually though (so nobody go pestering the museum about it.)
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How about theme songs/music? I'd like a clean version of the Hit Man theme, and I think it goes without saying that most of us wish the Whew! music package still existed.
One more from the Wolpert well: A clean version of "Blackout". The game itself may not have been the greatest, but that theme was contagious.
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From what I hear, the restoration went great, and what's on the label is exactly what was on the tape. The museum is holding on to the music for the time being due to the incident with the Legends of the Hidden Temple music being posted on other sites and David Stanley's reaction. It seems it will be posted eventually though (so nobody go pestering the museum about it.)
Well, that's great to know! Better that than the tape being unplayable, mislabeled, etc.....
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If we're talking theme songs, then LMaD80 and the second Eubanks "Dream House" themes are my top choices. I believe the former was a Stan Worth piece, so I'm a little surprised it hasn't turned up on the TVPMM, as a gift from his widow.
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I'm still hoping for Otis Conner's score for Wipeout (1988-1989) and the original 1985 theme of California's Big Spin from T.J. Knowles.
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Well, my former Holy Grail theme ["Last Word"] has been on TVPMM for a while. Guess that leaves "Talkabout" and $1MCOAL......
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I'm waiting for the day when someone discovers the Ellis brothers' music package from $ale of the Century.
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http://tvpmm.com/whew/WHEWBox.jpg
Subscribers only, champ.
I am a subscriber, and I don't see any Whew! clues in the game show section of the vault, Chris.
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http://tvpmm.com/whew/WHEWBox.jpg
Subscribers only, champ.
I am a subscriber, and I don't see any Whew! clues in the game show section of the vault, Chris.
He meant the photo you linked to can only be accessed by subscribers, or its at least a broken link.
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http://tvpmm.com/whew/WHEWBox.jpg
Subscribers only, champ.
I am a subscriber, and I don't see any Whew! clues in the game show section of the vault, Chris.
He meant the photo you linked to can only be accessed by subscribers, or its at least a broken link.
The link works, and a jpg file loads if you are in vault. I wonder what the delay is in getting to that tape.
Just hopeful.
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The link works, and a jpg file loads if you are in vault.
Emphasis mine.
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I wonder what the delay is in getting to that tape.
Just hopeful.
I explained that in an earlier post......
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I explained that in an earlier post......
Which one?
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I explained that in an earlier post......
Which one?
Post #103 (http://"http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=23531&view=findpost&p=290798") in this thread.
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I'm waiting for the day when someone discovers the Ellis brothers' music package from $ale of the Century.
This. The Original package and everything else through that run.
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Are any hour-long Wheel episodes from 1975/6 known to exist, Paley Center/UCLA or otherwise?
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My Holy Grail of footage would have to be the '91 fox special "Fantasy Park"
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Any episode of "Rhyme Or Reason" that isn't the pilot episode --
Would especially love to find the final ep. in which they trashed the set during the show.
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a Gene Wood hosted Beat the Clock
I'm surprised this one isn't widely available, as one episode aired on GSN not that many years ago (I remember it because it was added to help fill the extra hour when Daylight Saving Time ended one year - of course, now that's an infomercial block). I for one would like to see a Jack Narz-hosted one (with the giant pink clock, IIRC).
If I had one "holy grail," it would be the Shamrock Sweepstakes (the St. Patrick's Day special episode of Celebrity Sweepstakes where winners from NBC's six game shows at the time competed in a contest of Irish-based trivia questions for $100,000), followed by another promotion with a week of celebrity games where somebody won $75,000 if they answered the phone when Jim McKrell called (IIRC, when they called one contestant, they got a busy signal, but as it turned out, she was put back into the "jar" and drawn by the eventual high scorer, so she ended up winning the $75,000).
Also on my "wish list" (and for all I know, at least one of these is on YouTube):
Any Three on a Match from the "buzz-in" era (if only to remind me how it worked)
Either of the two (that I know of) episodes of The Moneymaze where both couples won $10,000 (and we could settle the debate as to whether it was "Moneymaze" or "Money Maze")
Any > $25,000 win on Jackpot! (I know one of these is online), or any of the other "moments" on the show (e.g. the day the multiplier was 55, and they had to ask Standards & Practices if they could let it stand (S&P said yes); the "Egyptian's Favorite Game Show" riddle)
Any episode of Spin-Off (one of the three daytime shows never aired in San Francisco, but I have seen episodes of the other two - Just Men! and 50 Grand Slam; I have also heard the audio of a bonus round)
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I think that Moneymaze titling issue was resolved after seeing the images from Getty Images, from that SOTC '69 topic. Here's the pictures (http://www.gettyimages.ca/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=editorial&assetType=image&mt=photography&p=moneymaze#).
As for my holy grail, seeing The Wizard of Odds with Alex Trebek.
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As for my holy grail, seeing The Wizard of Odds with Alex Trebek.
One exists at UCLA, but it is post format change. It's very dull when it's simply a slow paced Q&A.
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Another two "holy grails" of mine would be an episode of Monty Hall's Twenty-One and an episode of the 1950s Wheel of Fortune (probably an hour-long one).
a Gene Wood hosted Beat the Clock
I'm surprised this one isn't widely available, as one episode aired on GSN not that many years ago (I remember it because it was added to help fill the extra hour when Daylight Saving Time ended one year - of course, now that's an infomercial block). I for one would like to see a Jack Narz-hosted one (with the giant pink clock, IIRC).
There's several of each on YouTube; I myself have five episodes, but I don't have any adequate transferring equipment.
If I had one "holy grail," it would be the Shamrock Sweepstakes (the St. Patrick's Day special episode of Celebrity Sweepstakes where winners from NBC's six game shows at the time competed in a contest of Irish-based trivia questions for $100,000)
This was discussed two years ago (http://gameshow.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19626&st=0&p=235718&#entry235718). Jimmy Owen said he had an audio copy of it.
Any Three on a Match from the "buzz-in" era (if only to remind me how it worked)
Wait, what? When was this? (First I've heard of such a format.)
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Just to follow-up on Don's post...yes, Beat the Clock with Gene Wood should be an easy find as GSN ran it for quite a while.
As for Spin-off, the good news is that it does exist. It was discovered about a decade ago when the CBS Joker's Wild was found. Unfortuantely, no episodes of it have gotten out since then.
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Another two "holy grails" of mine would be an episode of Monty Hall's Twenty-One and an episode of the 1950s Wheel of Fortune (probably an hour-long one).
Not sure what's so interesting about the 50s Wheel of Fortune... it was just one of several Queen for a Day knockoffs. I find that whole subsection of shows demeaning and insulting.
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Since I'm not aware, to put it quite simply, why is there so much hatred towards Queen for a Day, and the knockoffs that followed it?
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Since I'm not aware, to put it quite simply, why is there so much hatred towards Queen for a Day, and the knockoffs that followed it?
Mostly because they weren't really games, they were melodramatic crap that asked housewives to prostrate themselves and rewarded whoever could come up with the biggest sob story.
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When you think about, a lot of those shows' elements showed up in "Deal Or No Deal", making that show equally disliked on similar principles.
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When you think about, a lot of those shows' elements showed up in "Deal Or No Deal", making that show equally disliked on similar principles.
Yeah, but they weren't part of the game, they were part of the contestant casting, really. On "Queen For A Day", the showdown to determine Who Is Most Pathetic *was* the entire game.
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Any Three on a Match from the "buzz-in" era (if only to remind me how it worked)
Wait, what? When was this? (First I've heard of such a format.)
I don't remember much about it, as I only remember seeing one episode; it was from near the end of the run. From what I do remember - and note that the regulars here will tell you that "what I remember" and "how it actually worked" tend to be two different things when it comes to 1970s game shows - Bill asked five questions at a time, worth something like $40, 50, 60, 70, and 80; buzz in with a correct answer, and you get the money. One or two questions per round were also "Take Away" questions; if you got it right, not only did you get the money, but you could take the same amount from your opponents. What I don't remember is, how they decided who (if anybody) could play the end game after each set of questions.
As for Spin-off, the good news is that it does exist. It was discovered about a decade ago when the CBS Joker's Wild was found. Unfortuantely, no episodes of it have gotten out since then.
IIRC, they found it at WCBS when they found the first two seasons of The Joker's Wild, but it's in an old recording format and somebody decided the cost of converting the tapes did not justify doing so.
(Based on the one audio clip from the show that I have heard, I can't blame them.)
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As for Spin-off, the good news is that it does exist. It was discovered about a decade ago when the CBS Joker's Wild was found. Unfortuantely, no episodes of it have gotten out since then.
IIRC, they found it at WCBS when they found the first two seasons of The Joker's Wild, but it's in an old recording format and somebody decided the cost of converting the tapes did not justify doing so.
(Based on the one audio clip from the show that I have heard, I can't blame them.)
Which leads me to the question of why were the Joker's Wild episodes deemed worthwhile? Don't get me wrong... I'm glad they were... but GSN already had 9 years worth of the syndicated run (some of which they never aired) and did practically zero promotion for the CBS episodes.
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As for Spin-off, the good news is that it does exist. It was discovered about a decade ago when the CBS Joker's Wild was found. Unfortuantely, no episodes of it have gotten out since then.
IIRC, they found it at WCBS when they found the first two seasons of The Joker's Wild, but it's in an old recording format and somebody decided the cost of converting the tapes did not justify doing so.
(Based on the one audio clip from the show that I have heard, I can't blame them.)
Which leads me to the question of why were the Joker's Wild episodes deemed worthwhile? Don't get me wrong... I'm glad they were... but GSN already had 9 years worth of the syndicated run (some of which they never aired) and did practically zero promotion for the CBS episodes.
For the sake of completeness, I guess.
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One more 50s show to add to my dream list just came to mind: Top Dollar.
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Which leads me to the question of why were the Joker's Wild episodes deemed worthwhile? Don't get me wrong... I'm glad they were... but GSN already had 9 years worth of the syndicated run (some of which they never aired) and did practically zero promotion for the CBS episodes.
Probably because it was the first two seasons (and CBS seasons at that). Had they already had the complete CBS run and come across, say, the last two syndicated Barry seasons, I don't think they would have been as interested.
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I think that Moneymaze titling issue was resolved after seeing the images from Getty Images, from that SOTC '69 topic. Here's the pictures (http://www.gettyimages.ca/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=editorial&assetType=image&mt=photography&p=moneymaze#).
This may be from another pilot. Nick had a perm during the series run.
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Just to follow-up on Don's post...yes, Beat the Clock with Gene Wood should be an easy find as GSN ran it for quite a while.
Yes, I don't think it was rarely run...before the Dark Period in 1997, Wood BTC was seen at 6 am just before Perry Card Sharks. I think Narz BTC was seen on weekends then, and that came back in 1998.
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Which leads me to the question of why were the Joker's Wild episodes deemed worthwhile? Don't get me wrong... I'm glad they were... but GSN already had 9 years worth of the syndicated run (some of which they never aired) and did practically zero promotion for the CBS episodes
You're right about that! The only way we knew that the CBS episodes were going to be run was on their online schedule, and it stated "first CBS episode from 1972!" I don't recall seeing any on-air promo for it at all.
I'm glad they treated us to those CBS episodes - I only regret that they didn't air them for longer. Granted, the first season probably did seem kind of slow, but if they had jumped ahead to a later part of the CBS run, it wasn't that much different from the syndie version. I would have loved to have seen the '74-75 CBS season again, which they had all along.
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I'd love to see some episodes of Woolery WOF with Trebek subbing.
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I know this is an odd choice, but given that several people have listed themes rather than episodes... I'd like (all, why not) the music from LMAD90 and TTD90.
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Lots of stuff covered here already, but I'll toss in one more I haven't seen...any Jack Narz or Monty Hall episodes of "Video Village," besides the Red Rowe-hosted one that's been on the trading circuit for a while. I know Jaime Locklin had a brief clip of a Hall ep. on his old Page O'Clips site...hoping there's more where that came from. A product of its time, certainly, but also a lot of fun, and the "human board game" concept is a woefully underused one in American game shows.
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A product of its time, certainly, but also a lot of fun, and the "human board game" concept is a woefully underused one in American game shows.
I thought Peer Pressure was completely woeful.
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I thought Peer Pressure was completely woeful.
At first I read this as "completely wonderful" and was going to ask you to pass over that phat blunt you must have been smoking once you finished the current toke.
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Lots of stuff covered here already, but I'll toss in one more I haven't seen...any Jack Narz or Monty Hall episodes of "Video Village," besides the Red Rowe-hosted one that's been on the trading circuit for a while.
I know one Narz show is out there, and two Hall (the 500th show and an episode of the children's version, both with slates).
A product of its time, certainly, but also a lot of fun, and the "human board game" concept is a woefully underused one in American game shows.
Can't say I disagree. Worked out well for Video Village, as well as Shenanigans.
Not sure what's so interesting about the 50s Wheel of Fortune...
I'm curious to see just how many things it has in common with Merv's Wheel.
I thought Peer Pressure was completely woeful.
This, this, a million times this. I remember watching the mess and wondering what happened if someone got to the end of the board. Mind you, I was 9-11 years old when the show was airing and I knew hardly anything about the game show genre, but I still knew it was crap. (I totally forgot about the "loser flips burgers for the audience" thing.)
/get the hell off my lawn
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Not sure what's so interesting about the 50s Wheel of Fortune...
I'm curious to see just how many things it has in common with Merv's Wheel.
People spun a wheel, answered questions and won up to One Thousand Dollars.
Not a whole lot other than the wheel.
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And there's a picture of that '50s version here (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2302/2361862475_792583d647.jpg).
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/get the hell off my lawn
You're 23 years old.
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/get the hell off my lawn
You're 23 years old.
It's okay. He's Benjamin Buttons.
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You're 23 years old.
He actually wasn't doing too terribly until he commanded people to vacate his greenery.
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Do color still photos exist of CBS What's My Line? from the final 1966-67 season?
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Do color still photos exist of CBS What's My Line? from the final 1966-67 season?
I'd gather so, but I haven't seen any. I'll do you one better, though. A color photo (http://"http://home.comcast.net/~s.astorino/WML.LP.1958.Dot.jpg") from What's My Line?'s experimental color episode from 1954. And I've found a few other color promotional photos (including one with Hal Block) on Google.
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How do you know that photo was from the experimental color episode and not a run-of-the-mill episode from studio 59?
Were there two "experimental" episodes of WML, one with the CBS spinning-color-wheel system and the other from studio 72(?) using RCA TK40s or 41s in NTSC?
What an ugly color scheme, BTW.
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And there's a picture of that '50s version here (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2302/2361862475_792583d647.jpg).
Good Lord, was Todd Russell a used-car salesman before doing this show? His plastic smile makes Bert Parks look sincere.
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How do you know that photo was from the experimental color episode and not a run-of-the-mill episode from studio 59?
Were there two "experimental" episodes of WML, one with the CBS spinning-color-wheel system and the other from studio 72(?) using RCA TK40s or 41s in NTSC?
What an ugly color scheme, BTW.
Well, you'll haveta kinda take **my** word for it, but actually, he was right. The cover photo of the Dot LP is from the 1954 experimental color episode, which unfortunately does not survive in any known form...
...apart from a batch of stills (presumably color, though I've only seen B&W versions of them) that were taken that night.
And for what it's worth, I agree about the color scheme.
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How do you know that photo was from the experimental color episode and not a run-of-the-mill episode from studio 59?
Were there two "experimental" episodes of WML, one with the CBS spinning-color-wheel system and the other from studio 72(?) using RCA TK40s or 41s in NTSC?
What an ugly color scheme, BTW.
I got my information from TV.com so I have no idea, although TwoInchQuad is corroborating my source. Also, this picture (http://"http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qFgmPelbHLU/SxOcdp0qrzI/AAAAAAAACxA/u4Bf4iFG1Gg/s1600/DSCN2009.JPG") seems to suggest that they changed the color specifically for that color episode. I always assumed that the name cards were black, so they probably changed them to show off that night.
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I got my information from TV.com so I have no idea, although TwoInchQuad is corroborating my source. Also, this picture (http://"http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qFgmPelbHLU/SxOcdp0qrzI/AAAAAAAACxA/u4Bf4iFG1Gg/s1600/DSCN2009.JPG") seems to suggest that they changed the color specifically for that color episode. I always assumed that the name cards were black, so they probably changed them to show off that night.
Actually, the nameplates **are** (or rather, **were**) black. They were retouched to blue for the Dot LP cover.
- Kevin