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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: The Pyramids on July 22, 2012, 12:32:21 PM
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Do you think the syndicated, Doug Davidson-hosted edition of 'The Price Is Right' in 1994 was a bad idea to begin with, or a good idea poorly executed? I say it was a good idea that deserved a better host and a more familiar look and feel to the daytime 'Price'.
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I didn't like it at first, but in retrospect, it wasn't that bad of a show at all. It did a fine job at differentiating itself from the daytime show, and Doug Davidson was great.
Plus, I loved the special game that they would play on occasion, The Price WAS Right.
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I say it was a good idea that deserved a better host and a more familiar look and feel to the daytime 'Price'.
The look was a great idea.
The host blew dog.
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Plus, I loved the special game that they would play on occasion, The Price WAS Right.
On occasion? I thought they did TPWR about four times out of five.
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I watched TPIR94 religiously when it ran [IIRC, it was after school]. My thoughts at the time---
1) The refreshed look was awesome.
2) Burton was a great announcer [of course, today, I think he was over the top----proabbly would rather have him over George Gray, though!]
3) Doug wasn't bad. He just---A) wasn't Bob, and B) didn't have as much experience as Bob. TPIR is a tough show to host, there's a lot to learn, and I'm sure that affected Doug's performance. Didn't seem to hurt Tom Kennedy, though.....
I bet the Richards administration could watch a few episodes as a suggestion on how to freshen the show. The set and theme, in the very least, could probably work today, especially if they do another nighttime special at some point.
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It was a fun show and I loved watching it after school. I actually didn't mind the lack of bidding, and it was a unique enough concept. I just thought Doug was a strange choice, even if he was just right across the hall at Y&R.
Did "Feud94" tape in 33 too?
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Did "Feud94" tape in 33 too?
IIRC, Yes it did.
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The look was a great idea.
The host blew dog.
Any reason why you didn't like him? Sure, he wasn't polished or anything, but he was far from bad- a 6 or 6.5 on my scale. I think he would have gotten better with another season or two.
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Any reason why you didn't like him? Sure, he wasn't polished or anything,
I think this is plenty.
(And I already see the followup from the usual suspects: "Neither is Drew." To which I respond: that's his act.)
I think he would have gotten better with another season or two.
Yeah, I disliked game shows being beta-tested on live air long before this decade.
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I loved every bit of it. Personally think it'd be neat if some of the grocery games switched to small prizes. That said, do you think the Range Game made for a good endgame?
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I loved every bit of it. Personally think it'd be neat if some of the grocery games switched to small prizes. That said, do you think the Range Game made for a good endgame?
At which point they no longer become grocery games.
Was Range Game a good end game? Yes. Better than having two people bid against each other, which 9 times of ten gets you a winner? Meh.
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3) Doug wasn't bad. He just---A) wasn't Bob, and B) didn't have as much experience as Bob. TPIR is a tough show to host, there's a lot to learn, and I'm sure that affected Doug's performance. Didn't seem to hurt Tom Kennedy, though.....
But then again, Tom Kennedy had 30 years of emceeing experience entering 1985 and the closest thing Doug Davidson got was his doing Family Feud during soap weeks.
On occasion? I thought they did TPWR about four times out of five.
Of the episodes that used the wheel, I seem to remember them all happening within the first two months the show was on. I did not enjoy The Price Was Right game.
I see a lot of you guys talking about what might have happened had there been a second season, and I'm of the belief that the show got cancelled when it did for a reason. It was just too much of a radical departure from the Price we all knew (in the sense of all the bells and whistles they added) and I don't think enough people caught on nor would they have. Some may say the OJ Trial had something to do with that but I said it before and I'll say it again- the OJ Trial didn't start until January 1995, which is when the high levels of coverage started. It wasn't as much of a factor as some might want it to believe. I mean, I don't know how many stations actually did this but the show got dropped in New York by the end of 1994- and that was on a station owned by the distributor. (Probably means nothing, but if Paramount is going to put a show it owns on a station it buys and is set to carry an affiliation with, that's not a good thing for them if the show fails.)
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Plus, I loved the special game that they would play on occasion, The Price WAS Right.
It wasn't so much a "special game" as it was the game they played to decide who went on to the showcase. IIRC, when they ran out of old prizes to bid on, that's when the elimination method switched to the Big Wheel (and also that awesome overhead shot).
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Some may say the OJ Trial had something to do with that ...
And I will reiterate the aforementioned some (and/or you) are confusing that anecdote with Feud '94. The trial was said to have postponed *that* show a lot in the past.
-Jason
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Some may say the OJ Trial had something to do with that ...
And I will reiterate the aforementioned some (and/or you) are confusing that anecdote with Feud '94. The trial was said to have postponed *that* show a lot in the past.
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I've actually heard said anecdote applied to a lot of shows that aired in 1994, including Feud, believe it or not. Whether it be factual or not, I doubt. :)
Which, strangely enough, was unaffected in New York because they just simply moved Feud to the morning and cleared the whole hour after they did that.
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I always appreciated how TNPIR94 tried to be its own show instead of same thing, different hour. Different set, host, mentality and it seemed to develop its own set of quirks, trademarks and "in-jokes" towards the end.
Wasn't here where the Cliffhanger got the name "Hans"?
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I always appreciated how TNPIR94 tried to be its own show instead of same thing, different hour. Different set, host, mentality and it seemed to develop its own set of qurirks, trademarks and "in-jokes" towards the end.
And I think if you brought it out today, it probably has a better fate than sixteen weeks of episodes.
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I always appreciated how TNPIR94 tried to be its own show instead of same thing, different hour. Different set, host, mentality and it seemed to develop its own set of qurirks, trademarks and "in-jokes" towards the end.
This. It set out to be different, and it actually worked. To answer G-R's question, the Range bonus game surprisingly worked IMO, and I didn't mind the range varying based on blind draw. At the same time, I think they went a little too far on the spectrum to make things different, since they already eliminated the bidding and only used the Showcase Showdown sparingly. I wouldn't have minded a traditional setup, although the Aussie format would've also been cool.
Wasn't here where the Cliffhanger got the name "Hans"?
I always thought Dennis James brought that up, inadvertently upsetting Janice, as that was her husband's name? Am I confusing TPiR lore here?
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Wasn't here where the Cliffhanger got the name "Hans"?
I always thought Dennis James brought that up, inadvertently upsetting Janice, as that was her husband's name? Am I confusing TPiR lore here?
Janice was just upset by the game in general... her husband's name was Fritz.
Back on topic, the show wasn't that bad, but it got terrible clearances. In my hometown it only aired once a week... two episodes in the wee hours of Saturday night after SNL was over.
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I always thought Dennis James brought that up, inadvertently upsetting Janice, as that was her husband's name? Am I confusing TPiR lore here?
Janice was just upset by the game in general... her husband's name was Fritz.
Yeah. And one day he said "there goes Fritz" and the story goes that she went offstage bursting into tears and didn't come back out for the rest of the show.
From what I've read (I'm sure others have as well, so this is probably nothing new) Davidson just came up with the name out of the blue in honor of his co-star Eric Braeden (whose name was originally Hans).
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Back on topic, the show wasn't that bad, but it got terrible clearances. In my hometown it only aired once a week... two episodes in the wee hours of Saturday night after SNL was over.
I believe the Des Moines area didn't get TNPIR94 at all. Am I correct on this?
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Ahh Fritz...thanks for the correction. I suppose I had the German origin right. :-P
I suppose Norfolk was an anomaly; we got the show weekdays at 4pm, but I remember my grandparents sending me a Dallas-area TV listing, and I believe they got the show on Saturday afternoons. I imagine the poor clearances and possibly O.J. hurt the show's ratings quite a bit. I know "Feud" is the show often cited, but from what I remember, a lot of shows that premiered in fall 1994 were one-and-done, one exception being (ObGameShow) Gordon Elliott's talk show.
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Any reason why you didn't like him? Sure, he wasn't polished or anything,
I think this is plenty.
(And I already see the followup from the usual suspects: "Neither is Drew." To which I respond: that's his act.)
I think he would have gotten better with another season or two.
Yeah, I disliked game shows being beta-tested on live air long before this decade.
Fair enough. Point conceded.
Was Range Game a good end game? Yes. Better than having two people bid against each other, which 9 times of ten gets you a winner? Meh.
I disagree. Price '94 felt more like a bonus round at least, in that the win rate wasn't so friggin high. Nine times out of ten I can watch Price today and skip the showcases, only because I know that there will probably be a winner. It gets boring watching people win $20K+ prize packages where in many cases they just win by default. Most other versions of Price, along with '94, feature the Showcase in a more traditional format and win rate, which I appreciate.
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Was Range Game a good end game? Yes. Better than having two people bid against each other, which 9 times of ten gets you a winner? Meh.
I disagree. Price '94 felt more like a bonus round at least, in that the win rate wasn't so friggin high. Nine times out of ten I can watch Price today and skip the showcases, only because I know that there will probably be a winner. It gets boring watching people win $20K+ prize packages where in many cases they just win by default. Most other versions of Price, along with '94, feature the Showcase in a more traditional format and win rate, which I appreciate.
1) then why are you watching the show? The point is to get to the showcase, isn't it? Why are you even bothering?
2) "more traditional"? The traditional format of The Price Is Right is two people get to the showcase, the winner is the closest bidder. How are any of these shows following any sort of tradition?
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Do you think the syndicated, Doug Davidson-hosted edition of 'The Price Is Right' in 1994 was a bad idea to begin with, or a good idea poorly executed? I say it was a good idea that deserved a better host and a more familiar look and feel to the daytime 'Price'.
I think that if it was the only version of TPIR, it could have worked out. (And I give Doug a little bit more credit than Chris Lemon does. But not much.)
The problem was that you're watching that and thinking "Why am I watching this version instead of the morning one?" and in Seattle, the show was on at 4p. TK-TPIR worked because it was Tom Kennedy and he capably handled the 30 minute format, and the show was on either in prime access or late night. I liked the show fine because I was 14 and hungry for game shows, but I would have much rather seen the original recipe version if possible. (and if you're watching both, that is an awful lot of guessing in a single day.)
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I always thought Dennis James brought that up, inadvertently upsetting Janice, as that was her husband's name? Am I confusing TPiR lore here?
Janice was just upset by the game in general... her husband's name was Fritz.
Yeah. And one day he said "there goes Fritz" and the story goes that she went offstage bursting into tears and didn't come back out for the rest of the show.
From what I've read (I'm sure others have as well, so this is probably nothing new) Davidson just came up with the name out of the blue in honor of his co-star Eric Braeden (whose name was originally Hans).
Does the "Fritz" episode exist anywhere?
Also, what's curious to me is Bob burying the show on the daytime PIR. At least 2-3 clips of him doing this are on YouTube.
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Was Range Game a good end game? Yes. Better than having two people bid against each other, which 9 times of ten gets you a winner? Meh.
I disagree. Price '94 felt more like a bonus round at least, in that the win rate wasn't so friggin high. Nine times out of ten I can watch Price today and skip the showcases, only because I know that there will probably be a winner. It gets boring watching people win $20K+ prize packages where in many cases they just win by default. Most other versions of Price, along with '94, feature the Showcase in a more traditional format and win rate, which I appreciate.
1) then why are you watching the show? The point is to get to the showcase, isn't it? Why are you even bothering?
2) "more traditional"? The traditional format of The Price Is Right is two people get to the showcase, the winner is the closest bidder. How are any of these shows following any sort of tradition?
1) Yes, the point is to get to the showcase. But the showcase is my least favorite part of the show because it's not like your two best players are in it. Some people get up on stage with a half wit bid and get to the "bonus round" with a lucky spin on a giant wheel of numbers. I just feel a small disconnect when they get to that part of the show because I'm used to the best contestant (usually) making it to the bonus round of a given show. That's the way Price has always been for me.
2) I'm speaking generally in terms of bonus round win rate. A bonus round win, to me, is supposed to feel special. It's not something that should be won every day, and it's certainly not something that should be won by default (one player is off on their showcase by $10K+, and wins because the other player went over). You should generally be happy to see someone win it. I just feel "meh" when i see someone win a showcase because it happens almost every day. It's like if Pyramid awarded $25,000 a day to the player who got closest to completing the Winner's Circle- that's the best way for me to describe my feeling with the Showcase.
But hey, I understand I'm in the minority here- we may agree to disagree on this one.
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Also, what's curious to me is Bob burying the show on the daytime PIR. At least 2-3 clips of him doing this are on YouTube.
I don't think it was so much him "burying" the show as it was clearing up the confusion between the two. Weren't the two shows largely sharing personnel behind the scenes?
And honestly, it's the fault of whoever at Goodson or Paramount gave the promo ideas to the ad agency. The way they presented it, it seemed like they were trying to promote TNPIR as a replacement for the original show (and I know I read in a couple of places back then that there had been talk about the regular PIR losing steam and a fair share of its audience entering 1994)- just another in the list of problems with the show.
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IIRC, when they ran out of old prizes to bid on, that's when the elimination method switched to the Big Wheel (and also that awesome overhead shot).
I'm gonna go ahead and call shenanigans on this, because I distinctly remember Big Wheel and TPWR being interspersed during the run of the series, like sometimes they would play TPWR, and then for variety or because they happened to schedule three fast games that day, they would spin the wheel.
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1) Yes, the point is to get to the showcase. But the showcase is my least favorite part of the show because it's not like your two best players are in it. Some people get up on stage with a half wit bid and get to the "bonus round" with a lucky spin on a giant wheel of numbers. I just feel a small disconnect when they get to that part of the show because I'm used to the best contestant (usually) making it to the bonus round of a given show. That's the way Price has always been for me.
To me, the show has become pretty much a big party for well over a decade. So, they are far more concerned with everyone having a good time and giving anyone a chance to win big keeps them happy.
I've said this in the past but: As long as people are having a good time, nobody is going to care how "fair" the proceedings are.
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IIRC, when they ran out of old prizes to bid on, that's when the elimination method switched to the Big Wheel (and also that awesome overhead shot).
I'm gonna go ahead and call shenanigans on this, because I distinctly remember Big Wheel and TPWR being interspersed during the run of the series, like sometimes they would play TPWR, and then for variety or because they happened to schedule three fast games that day, they would spin the wheel.
I don't remember exactly where I read that (which of course doesn't hold a lot of weight), but that was my belief based on what I read. I don't even remember how long ago it was. If possible, it would be neat to have a definitive answer to this from someone "behind the scenes". I do realize I could be wrong on this one...
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IIRC, when they ran out of old prizes to bid on, that's when the elimination method switched to the Big Wheel (and also that awesome overhead shot).
I'm gonna go ahead and call shenanigans on this, because I distinctly remember Big Wheel and TPWR being interspersed during the run of the series, like sometimes they would play TPWR, and then for variety or because they happened to schedule three fast games that day, they would spin the wheel.
I don't remember exactly where I read that (which of course doesn't hold a lot of weight), but that was my belief based on what I read. I don't even remember how long ago it was. If possible, it would be neat to have a definitive answer to this from someone "behind the scenes". I do realize I could be wrong on this one...
Tony Harrison's site is where this was. (http://"http://web.archive.org/web/20080727214754/http://www.tpir.tv/newprice/newprice.htm")
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I don't believe the '94 version of TPIR was taped and aired in anything close to the same order. Trying to determine when they brought in the Big Wheel based on when it appeared on TV probably isn't going to lead to a lot of useful conclusions.
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Tony Harrison's site is where this was. (http://"http://web.archive.org/web/20080727214754/http://www.tpir.tv/newprice/newprice.htm")
Fair enough. I'm willing to accept that "they ran out" and "they knew they didn't have enough for the number of shows they needed to produce" is an issue of semantics.
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1) Yes, the point is to get to the showcase. But the showcase is my least favorite part of the show because it's not like your two best players are in it. Some people get up on stage with a half wit bid and get to the "bonus round" with a lucky spin on a giant wheel of numbers. I just feel a small disconnect when they get to that part of the show because I'm used to the best contestant (usually) making it to the bonus round of a given show. That's the way Price has always been for me.
When each of the six contestants who have won their way on stage are given entirely different tasks to accomplish, how do you define 'best'?
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When each of the six contestants who have won their way on stage are given entirely different tasks to accomplish, how do you define 'best'?
Height.
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1) Yes, the point is to get to the showcase. But the showcase is my least favorite part of the show because it's not like your two best players are in it. Some people get up on stage with a half wit bid and get to the "bonus round" with a lucky spin on a giant wheel of numbers. I just feel a small disconnect when they get to that part of the show because I'm used to the best contestant (usually) making it to the bonus round of a given show. That's the way Price has always been for me.
When each of the six contestants who have won their way on stage are given entirely different tasks to accomplish, how do you define 'best'?
Well, wouldn't it be the way the other half-hour versions (since 1972) worked: highest scores? I get that 1) the wheel breaks up monotony on the hour-long show, and 2) picking the high score from both halves is not the best TV, not to mention leaves a pretty big gap in the show if you eliminate the Showcase Showdown.
IMO, that's one thing I liked about The Price Was Right: it eliminated the luck element Jeremy speaks about, and still had contestants using a little bidding skill. Most of the pricing games are skill/pricing knowledge-based, so while you could be the top winner of the half by winning a car, all it does is let you spin last. And honestly, that's not much of a benefit considering it got you in the "bonus" round in prior versions. Not a flaw or anything, but I see Jeremy's point.
Now my question, and it's one I've thought about before...does anyone think a half-hour syndicated TPiR could work today? I know syndicators like double runs, so I doubt Drew would do that and the CBS version...
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IMO, that's one thing I liked about The Price Was Right: it eliminated the luck element Jeremy speaks about, and still had contestants using a little bidding skill. Most of the pricing games are skill/pricing knowledge-based, so while you could be the top winner of the half by winning a car, all it does is let you spin last.
That's not how I remember it. Once again, going from "some guy's webpage," and this could be easily verified by watching an episode, the players did their TPWR bids or spun the wheel in order of when they were called up to play their pricing game.
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IMO, that's one thing I liked about The Price Was Right: it eliminated the luck element Jeremy speaks about, and still had contestants using a little bidding skill. Most of the pricing games are skill/pricing knowledge-based, so while you could be the top winner of the half by winning a car, all it does is let you spin last. And honestly, that's not much of a benefit considering it got you in the "bonus" round in prior versions. Not a flaw or anything, but I see Jeremy's point.
Considering that you're bidding on something as it would have cost in a certain year, I don't think the luck element was eliminated at all in that case. As a matter of fact, I'd even argue that it enhanced it because you're not bidding on anything current.
Now my question, and it's one I've thought about before...does anyone think a half-hour syndicated TPiR could work today? I know syndicators like double runs, so I doubt Drew would do that and the CBS version...
I said a couple posts ago that TNPIR could have worked in today's day and age, but I also say that if the producers of TPIR were so inclined to put the show back into syndication they would have done so in the eighteen years since the last attempt.
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I actually meant the daytime show, but that's still a relevant point, if nothing else, an exception to the rule. For some reason, I want to say Davidson's version indeed used calling order.
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Considering that you're bidding on something as it would have cost in a certain year, I don't think the luck element was eliminated at all in that case. As a matter of fact, I'd even argue that it enhanced it because you're not bidding on anything current.
True, and unless you're old enough to remember the product or seeing an ad (Internet was still a relatively new concept), it's more or less blind guessing. Forgot about that element.
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Well, wouldn't it be the way the other half-hour versions (since 1972) worked: highest scores?
Only when all players are given the opportunity to score the same amount of points. Which they aren't, so the whole thing is inherently unfair from the start. So I have absolutely zero problem with deciding by lot (effectively) who plays in the Showcase.
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1) Yes, the point is to get to the showcase. But the showcase is my least favorite part of the show because it's not like your two best players are in it. Some people get up on stage with a half wit bid and get to the "bonus round" with a lucky spin on a giant wheel of numbers. I just feel a small disconnect when they get to that part of the show because I'm used to the best contestant (usually) making it to the bonus round of a given show. That's the way Price has always been for me.
When each of the six contestants who have won their way on stage are given entirely different tasks to accomplish, how do you define 'best'?
Well, wouldn't it be the way the other half-hour versions (since 1972) worked: highest scores? I get that 1) the wheel breaks up monotony on the hour-long show, and 2) picking the high score from both halves is not the best TV, not to mention leaves a pretty big gap in the show if you eliminate the Showcase Showdown.
IMO, that's one thing I liked about The Price Was Right: it eliminated the luck element Jeremy speaks about, and still had contestants using a little bidding skill. Most of the pricing games are skill/pricing knowledge-based, so while you could be the top winner of the half by winning a car, all it does is let you spin last. And honestly, that's not much of a benefit considering it got you in the "bonus" round in prior versions. Not a flaw or anything, but I see Jeremy's point.
Now my question, and it's one I've thought about before...does anyone think a half-hour syndicated TPiR could work today? I know syndicators like double runs, so I doubt Drew would do that and the CBS version..
And like already said, Price is a big giveaway party, and fairness is kinda thrown out of the window- after all, even in the half hour days, you could win your game, but if it was a perfect show and you won the lowest valued prizes, then you weren't in the showcase by no fault of your own.
I don't think syndication would work today, just because they wouldn't want to cannibalize the show- although I would be curious to how the producers would work the show's format. One thing I thought would be neat would be to save the show's top tier games and use them in rotation for the showcase round.
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One thing I thought would be neat would be to save the show's top tier games and use them in rotation for the showcase round.
WHY would you even CONSIDER that?
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WHY would you even CONSIDER that?
WHAT'S the DIFFERENCE between that AND playING Range Game?
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WHY would you even CONSIDER that?
WHAT'S the DIFFERENCE between that AND playING Range Game?
...because Range Game serves the most similar purpose to the showcase round as any pricing game does?
A loss is unsatisfying anyway you slice it, but why are you going to use Plinko as an end game and all but guarantee a bad outcome for the end of the show (in the sense of Plinko being a game that technically nobody's won)?
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One thing I thought would be neat would be to save the show's top tier games and use them in rotation for the showcase round.
WHY would you even CONSIDER that?
Man, did I pee in your Cheerios recently? Chill the eff out.
Price 94 used Range Game.
The French and Italian versions currently play Clock Game.
Aussie Price uses the pricing half of Hole In One with a dash of Bullseye I.
England uses "price within the range" that has been used as part of three or four different pricing games.
I worded it wrong (my fault), but I'm just of the belief that some of the pricing games, if tweaked right, would translate well as "bonus games" in the show's rotation.
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Now my question, and it's one I've thought about before...does anyone think a half-hour syndicated TPiR could work today? I know syndicators like double runs, so I doubt Drew would do that and the CBS version...
With CBS distributing WOF, J!, ET, Judges Judy and Joe, Dr. Phil, The Drs., etc. to syndication, why would they permit TPIR to take shares away from their established shows? If you don't have WOF or J!, you might be inclined to stay out of the prime access game show biz. I know Detroit is currently airing Harvey Feud in access, but Steve has a good fan base in Motown.
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I believe the Des Moines area didn't get TNPIR94 at all. Am I correct on this?
Yes you are. It aired every weekday on KORN, but went completely over the heads of viewers across Iowa.
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Now my question, and it's one I've thought about before...does anyone think a half-hour syndicated TPiR could work today? I know syndicators like double runs, so I doubt Drew would do that and the CBS version...
With CBS distributing WOF, J!, ET, Judge Judy and Joe, Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, etc. to syndication, why would they allow TPIR to take shares away from their established shows?
Sorry if this is a stupid question...but would Price HAVE to go through the CBS/Paramount distributors if they wanted to take the show into syndie, or could they just take the show to someone like Debmar Mercury without some sort of permission? I was of the thought that the syndie and network parts of CBS were two fairly separate entities, and the syndication company would just have to pay CBS a fee for the syndication rights.
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Now my question, and it's one I've thought about before...does anyone think a half-hour syndicated TPiR could work today? I know syndicators like double runs, so I doubt Drew would do that and the CBS version...
With CBS distributing WOF, J!, ET, Judge Judy and Joe, Dr. Phil, Dr. Oz, etc. to syndication, why would they allow TPIR to take shares away from their established shows?
Sorry if this is a stupid question...but would Price HAVE to go through the CBS/Paramount distributors if they wanted to take the show into syndie, or could they just take the show to someone like Debmar Mercury without some sort of permission? I was of the thought that the syndie and network parts of CBS were two fairly separate entities, and the syndication company would just have to pay CBS a fee for the syndication rights.
It wouldn't have to be thru CBS but CBS would likely have to give permission and define parameters on when it can run (a la no Dr. Phil vs. Oprah), thus putting the show in such bad time slots that it wouldn't have the chance to succeed.
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Also, what's curious to me is Bob burying the show on the daytime PIR. At least 2-3 clips of him doing this are on YouTube.
I don't think it was so much him "burying" the show as it was clearing up the confusion between the two. Weren't the two shows largely sharing personnel behind the scenes?
And honestly, it's the fault of whoever at Goodson or Paramount gave the promo ideas to the ad agency. The way they presented it, it seemed like they were trying to promote TNPIR as a replacement for the original show (and I know I read in a couple of places back then that there had been talk about the regular PIR losing steam and a fair share of its audience entering 1994)- just another in the list of problems with the show.
Yes on one of them, Bob just seems to clear the matter, but on another it has a kind of "we're the real deal" overtones.
Did Bob ever mention Tom's version?
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A loss is unsatisfying anyway you slice it, but why are you going to use Plinko as an end game and all but guarantee a bad outcome for the end of the show (in the sense of Plinko being a game that technically nobody's won)?
You wouldn't. So it's probably a good thing that he didn't cite Plinko specifically by name.
On the other hand, Hole In One (or Two!) or Five Price Tags or One Away or Lucky Seven for a Showcase? Sure, why not?
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Yes you are. It aired every weekday on KORN, but went completely over the heads of viewers across Iowa.
Just another example why Iowa gets called "Flyover Country"... ;-)
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I guess I'm in the minority, but I actually liked Davidson. He wasn't Barker, but he wasn't trying to be. He made it his own version. He had his own little quirks, like calling the Magic # game the "geezmo" and calling the mountain climber Hans. I was only 7 or 8 at the time, but I found the show to be a nice complement to the daytime show. If you didn't like the syndie version, you could still watch the old familiar show on CBS in the mornings. I thought the show was a fun little diversion from the main show.
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He wasn't Barker
You're right. Doug's models actually liked working for him.
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I guess I'm in the minority, but I actually liked Davidson. He wasn't Barker, but he wasn't trying to be. He made it his own version. He had his own little quirks, like calling the Magic # game the "geezmo" and calling the mountain climber Hans. I was only 7 or 8 at the time, but I found the show to be a nice complement to the daytime show. If you didn't like the syndie version, you could still watch the old familiar show on CBS in the mornings. I thought the show was a fun little diversion from the main show.
I agree with you. I enjoyed watching TNPIR. I knew it was a different version as opposed to being a replacement show as some had thought (according to Barker). I still enjoy seeing it occasionally on YouTube. It had the same pricing games, the same excitement as the daytime counterpart had/has and we could still play at home and cheer for our favorite contestants.
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I hated it from stem to stern. I remember watching one episode where the host blew through the show so quickly that the director stayed on the closing shot for about thirty seconds before fading to black.
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I hated it from stem to stern. I remember watching one episode where the host blew through the show so quickly that the director stayed on the closing shot for about thirty seconds before fading to black.
Anyone shocked by this opinion? Didn't think so.
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I hated it from stem to stern. I remember watching one episode where the host blew through the show so quickly that the director stayed on the closing shot for about thirty seconds before fading to black.
\Anyone shocked by this opinion? Didn't think so.
Alfonzo didn't like a game show? Stop the presses!
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One thing I thought would be neat would be to save the show's top tier games and use them in rotation for the showcase round.
WHY would you even CONSIDER that?
Man, did I pee in your Cheerios recently? Chill the eff out.
Okay, maybe I am being a little more dickish than perhaps I should. Apologies.
Price 94 used Range Game.
Which worked pretty well, IMO as I've said.
The French and Italian versions currently play Clock Game.
I COULD get behind that, but only if they gave you a little more time than 30 seconds.
Aussie Price uses the pricing half of Hole In One with a dash of Bullseye I.
Eh. I don't know about that one.
I worded it wrong (my fault), but I'm just of the belief that some of the pricing games, if tweaked right, would translate well as "bonus games" in the show's rotation.
I don't disagree on the "some" part, but I think that list would probably be limited to a very few- Range Game would be one, Clock Game would be another, but beyond that I don't know too many others that would translate well. I kinda like Five Price Tags in theory, but I think in practice it wouldn't do as well.
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Aussie Price uses the pricing half of Hole In One with a dash of Bullseye I.
Eh. I don't know about that one.
What don't you know about it? The first half is two player Bullseye, and to win the showcase the winner has to sort the prizes in order by cost. Whether or not you like it or think that's a good way to go about that, well, make that claim and then we can hash it out.
If it meant we got to see a few of the big ticket games more often (Super Ball, Temptation, et al), I would be totally behind the idea that there was a stable of five or so games that you could pull from that would become that day's Showcase Game.
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Aussie Price uses the pricing half of Hole In One with a dash of Bullseye I.
Eh. I don't know about that one.
What don't you know about it? The first half is two player Bullseye, and to win the showcase the winner has to sort the prizes in order by cost. Whether or not you like it or think that's a good way to go about that, well, make that claim and then we can hash it out.
Are we just on two wavelengths that aren't connecting? Because I thought it was clear that I wasn't fully sold on the idea.
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Are we just on two wavelengths that aren't connecting? Because I thought it was clear that I wasn't fully sold on the idea.
What about it didn't you like?
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Are we just on two wavelengths that aren't connecting? Because I thought it was clear that I wasn't fully sold on the idea.
What about it didn't you like?
Admittedly this is sight unseen, but reading the concept I just found it a little more unwieldy than I would feel comfortable with.
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The French and Italian versions currently play Clock Game.
OK!'s back on?
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The French and Italian versions currently play Clock Game.
OK!'s back on?
It was Belgium- that version has since been taken off the air. I don't know why I thought Italy got a revival as well.
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The French and Italian versions currently play Clock Game.
I COULD get behind that, but only if they gave you a little more time than 30 seconds.
If a $2000 range is given with 30 seconds, does that work?
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The French and Italian versions currently play Clock Game.
I COULD get behind that, but only if they gave you a little more time than 30 seconds.
Show me some prizes and give me thirty seconds, and I'll win the Showcase every time. If it's a random five-digit number, that's different. But I'm within $5k in the first five seconds, and within $1K in ten. After that, it's just hundreds. Piece of cake.
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Show me some prizes and give me thirty seconds, and I'll win the Showcase every time. If it's a random five-digit number, that's different. But I'm within $5k in the first five seconds, and within $1K in ten. After that, it's just hundreds. Piece of cake.
I'll make the point that you're also in a completely different stratum than 99.999% of TPIR contestants.
/and by different I mean higher.
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The French and Italian versions currently play Clock Game.
I COULD get behind that, but only if they gave you a little more time than 30 seconds.
Show me some prizes and give me thirty seconds, and I'll win the Showcase every time. If it's a random five-digit number, that's different. But I'm within $5k in the first five seconds, and within $1K in ten. After that, it's just hundreds. Piece of cake.
Even if it is a random five digit number, if your first four bids are the median of the solution set, you're still within $6K in a matter of 8 or 9 seconds.
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Show me some prizes and give me thirty seconds, and I'll win the Showcase every time. If it's a random five-digit number, that's different. But I'm within $5k in the first five seconds, and within $1K in ten. After that, it's just hundreds. Piece of cake.
Even if it is a random five digit number, if your first four bids are the median of the solution set, you're still within $6K in a matter of 8 or 9 seconds.
Pretty sure this is what Matt is saying. If it's a completely random five-digit number between 1 and 99999, and you're not within 6,250 in the first five seconds, you fail at Clock Game.
(Admittedly, keeping your cool under TV lighting with thousands of dollars on the line is an issue. But the primary point is that in Clock-game-as-regular-pricing-game, you have to do it twice in thirty seconds, and halfway-decent players do it with a solid ten seconds left on the clock. Only doing it once, even with a random number, there is no reason you shouldn't be within 500 or so in those first fifteen seconds; the only thing that might draw it out is if they force you to recite the entire number with every guess.)