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The Game Show Forum => Game Show Channels & Networks => Topic started by: LetsGoYankees on November 17, 2012, 10:09:28 AM
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Just curious. Looking like nothing big is planned for December except Black & White week and the Christmas/New Years' marathons, which could be picked up first for GSN going into early 2013?
Modern
*Who Wants to be a Millionaire (post 2010)
*Cash Cab
*Wheel of Fortune
*Don't Forget the Lyrics
*Syndie 5th Grader
*Wipeout
Classics
*Match Game
*Family Feud (Dawson)
*Tattletales
*The Newlywed Game (Eubanks)
Anything come to mind?
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Wipeout is pretty much the province of trutv. 5th Grader a possibility. The others are played out. Maybe Brady LMAD to pair with Harvey Feud?
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Wipeout is pretty much the province of trutv.
And if this isn't a sad commentary on the state of cable television today, I dunno what is.
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And if this isn't a sad commentary on the state of cable television today, I dunno what is.
Just wait: Killer karaoke premieres next Friday on TRUtv.
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If GSN were serious about 'Lyrics' I think they would have acted by now.
The only acquistion that would get my attention is the one that seems like it will never happen, which is Bob Barker 'Price Is Right'.
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My money's on Hell's Kitchen or Master Chef.
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Wipeout is pretty much the province of trutv. 5th Grader a possibility. The others are played out. Maybe Brady LMAD to pair with Harvey Feud?
I've heard talk about how LMAD now falls under the same "CBS do not rerun" clause as TPIR does, with people noting the disappearance of Hall episodes once the Brady version began. Any truth to that?
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I've heard talk about how LMAD now falls under the same "CBS do not rerun" clause as TPIR does, with people noting the disappearance of Hall episodes once the Brady version began. Any truth to that?
I'm just curious to know what your original source is.
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I've heard talk about how LMAD now falls under the same "CBS do not rerun" clause as TPIR does, with people noting the disappearance of Hall episodes once the Brady version began. Any truth to that?
Let's Make a Deal disappeared from GSN almost exactly two years after they acquired it. During an era at the network where the network was letting leases expire left and right and spending as little money on older stuff as they could get away with.
The basic and simple explanations aren't always the most exciting, but they're right a surprising amount of the time.
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I've heard talk about how LMAD now falls under the same "CBS do not rerun" clause as TPIR does, with people noting the disappearance of Hall episodes once the Brady version began. Any truth to that?
I'm just curious to know what your original source is.
At any rate, doesn't CBS own a stake in Price? AFAIK, Deal is fully owned by FremantleMedia, with no ownership stake by CBS.
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Brady LMAD would be a good choice. Actually, it'd be fun for them to pick up Brady LMAD and the original LMAD. Put the newer version on whenever and the older version on in the morning. It could work.
Other than that, with the crazy decisions they make, both good and bad, I couldn't guess what they'd pick up next.
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I've heard talk about how LMAD now falls under the same "CBS do not rerun" clause as TPIR does, with people noting the disappearance of Hall episodes once the Brady version began. Any truth to that?
I'm just curious to know what your original source is.
GSN boards, so take it with a grain of a grain of salt.
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GSN boards, so take it with a grain of a grain of salt.
Yeah, I figured. Hey, I read somewhere on the Internet that sick elderly people were going to be brought before panels who would decide if they lived or died. Any truth to that?
/mark it eight, Donny
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I think Brady's LMAD or TPIR with Barker or Carey would be a good acquisition. But yeah, the latter will most likely not happen.
Meredith's Millionaire bombed on GSN, so I don't see them going for that.
Other possibilities are WOF, Cash Cab and syndie 5th Grader. Foxworthy's a hot commodity at GSN right now.
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My hunch, a return of Barris productions. It's been a while since Treasure Hunt and 3's a Crowd have aired.
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If SOTC, Scrabble, or Classic Concentration ever made an appearance, I'd watch daily. I'm also not holding my breath. I'm guessing they're asking way too much for the rights to any of these.
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If SOTC, Scrabble, or Classic Concentration ever made an appearance, I'd watch daily. I'm also not holding my breath. I'm guessing they're asking way too much for the rights to any of these.
You assume GSN is interested in any of those shows. When is the last time GSN got the rights to air a show at least 20 years old which wasn't previously on the network (eliminating the current crop of 1983 PYL reruns)? Win, Lose or Draw? The $1.98 Beauty Show? I don't see GSN clamoring to get any more classic shows when they relegate such shows to the morning.
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Plus, I think they now have shown almost all of the most popular game shows of the 70s and 80s that were available to them, even if they didn't show all the episodes. Game show reruns weren't a big deal, until the 70s ended, and the 80s began.
That's why many of them prior to 1980 no longer exist.
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Win, Lose or Draw
After rolling it around in my head for a few minutes, pretty sure this is the last outright-new pre-1990 acquisition. They've gone and leased for the first time other runs/seasons of shows previously aired (the current PYL and $25K runs, the old early-run eps of Love Connection, 80s LMaD), and the shows from the Goodson library have cycled in and out over the years, but I'm relatively sure this is the last non-modern new acquisition. And it was ten and a half years ago.
Oh, and at the time, Draw only would have been 12-15 years old. Which is rather close to the same age that Regis' WWTBAM, Greed, etc. would be now. For a little perspective.
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Something of note here: When GSN debuted in 1994, the game shows that were 10-20 years old were made in the '70s and '80s that some of us (yours truly) grew up with and loved, and may consider "classics". It's now 2012 - the game shows that are 10-20 years old were made in the '90s and 2000's. The distance between some favorites going off that GSN reran at launch was 4-6 years (Super Password, and MG '90 for example). 4-6 years ago now? 2006-2008.
So it's not really GSN moving away from the "classics" more and more....It's time moving away.
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Something of note here: When GSN debuted in 1994, the game shows that were 10-20 years old were made in the '70s and '80s that some of us (yours truly) grew up with and loved, and may consider "classics". It's now 2012 - the game shows that are 10-20 years old were made in the '90s and 2000's. The distance between some favorites going off that GSN reran at launch was 4-6 years (Super Password, and MG '90 for example). 4-6 years ago now? 2006-2008.
So it's not really GSN moving away from the "classics" more and more....It's time moving away.
Indeed, it's like the trend with the oldies, er, "greatest hits" stations now to include the '80s and start pretty much with 1964. Heck, some '80s songs are as old now as the '50s songs were when, say, WCBS-FM started.
The thing is, as the '90s came, music and in fact TV started to, shall we say, experience a dip in artistic quality. Which is probably why people dread this movement forward. And it is a bit scary to someday think of boy bands and pop princesses of the late '90s and '00s as "classic hits."
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The thing is, as the '90s came, music and in fact TV started to, shall we say, experience a dip in artistic quality. Which is probably why people dread this movement forward. And it is a bit scary to someday think of boy bands and pop princesses of the late '90s and '00s as "classic hits."
Subtract 20 from each of those years and you'll sound exactly like your parents.
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Subtract 20 from each of those years and you'll sound exactly like your parents.
Thank you.
God, I tire so much of the desperate-hanging-on-to-the-past around here sometimes. (And by that I mean outside of the forum's subject matter.)
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All reminds me of when I started to hear songs I remembered from my early childhood on classic rock stations and later on former oldies stations. Definitely a reminder of time passing by. If there were a lot of memorable to the masses 90s game shows, GSN may be on them now, but there weren't. And it's not like WBSM and others did that well for them. Perhaps the best we can hope for is for some future Internet streaming service that is interested in nitch programming for streaming. The current environment doesn't lend well to many of these shows coming back and I'm not one of those people that's gonna cry when GSN doesn't, because it largely doesn't make sense for them. There's a growing amount of digital subchannels dedicated to retro TV shows. Again, not likely, but I wouldn't 100% rule it out.
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Still with GSN, anything pre-1990 should be counted as "Classic" at least for the rest of this decade.
Certain members of the GSN Classics board aren't the end-all for determining what is classic and what is not.
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Perhaps the best we can hope for is for some future Internet streaming service that is interested in nitch programming for streaming.
Would you pay Netflix prices for a Streaming game show service? Would you pay a penny per minute for a la carte?
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The thing is, as the '90s came, music and in fact TV started to, shall we say, experience a dip in artistic quality. Which is probably why people dread this movement forward. And it is a bit scary to someday think of boy bands and pop princesses of the late '90s and '00s as "classic hits."
Subtract 20 from each of those years and you'll sound exactly like your parents.
Yeah, well, how much stuff from the late '90s and up compares to what was being released in the '70s (the decade we'd be describing if I did subtract 20 years)?
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Yeah, well, how much stuff from the late '90s and up compares to what was being released in the '70s (the decade we'd be describing if I did subtract 20 years)?
Yeah, well, you're totally missing his point. Ask someone twenty years younger than you that same question.
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Back in 75, I remember watching Best of Groucho and thinking that it was incredible that stations would show something that old, yet it was only 15-20 years old at the time. (Loved the show, just thought it was strange that a game show that old would be on the rerun circuit.)
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I think one of the most unexpected acquisitions of older programming, over the past few years, was when ESPN Classic picked up Celebrity Bowling, which is almost 40 years old.
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I hated it when GSN treated the 1998-04 version of Hollywood Squares as a classic. Plus there was so much tape damage in those episodes, and a lot of skipped episodes.
Proof or Not Real.
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I hated it when GSN treated the 1998-04 version of Hollywood Squares as a classic. Plus there was so much tape damage in those episodes, and a lot of skipped episodes.
Huh? They aired the Bergeron version quite frequently, so I don't get where you a) think they treated it as a classic or b) got the tape damage idea from. IIRC, they did, however, label the Marshall episodes as "Classic" in promos.
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I hated it when GSN treated the 1998-04 version of Hollywood Squares as a classic. Plus there was so much tape damage in those episodes, and a lot of skipped episodes.
There...was? I had no idea tape damage would be a problem at the end of the 20th century and the beginning of the 21st century. I am seriously curious as to how that would come about.
I find Supermarket Sweep to be classic, should it not fall into the classification? Being classic should not just be about how old something is (I myself find that The Birth of a Nation to be an absolute classic that TCM should be running for an entire day at least once a year!), it should be about its impact upon the genre and its quality.
Yeah, well, how much stuff from the late '90s and up compares to what was being released in the '70s (the decade we'd be describing if I did subtract 20 years)?
There might be a person who is 90, who hates when AMC runs The Godfather all day and who would rather see Gone with the Wind, Meet Me in St. Louis, and Singing in the Rain run instead. Ella Fitzgerald, Bing Crosby and The Andrew Sisters should've shared airtime with the stations that played Led Zepplin, Three Dog Night, and Stevie Wonder. The point is that it is all subjective (and could've been thirty years ago) and it's a trap I fall into myself.
Perhaps the best we can hope for is for some future Internet streaming service that is interested in nitch programming for streaming.
Would you pay Netflix prices for a Streaming game show service? Would you pay a penny per minute for a la carte?
Well, Netflix did pickup You Bet Your Life recently. I don't know the interest, but picking up some of the public domain episodes of the old '50s game shows certainly would be interesting. And considering that Hulu has Celebrity Bowling and Hollywood Squares, I suppose some of the juggernauts of streaming picking up more game shows wouldn't be totally out of the question.
And when it comes to GSN, I'm all for diversity and mixing things up. It'd be fun to watch an episode of Steve Harvey's Feud and then get an episode of 70s Pyramid after it. Then go to an episode of Lingo and follow that with Super Password, and then head into a Deal or No Deal/Minute to Win It/Millionaire block. I don't think it would be a crime to really mix stuff in, but then again it isn't about what I would think, it would be about what the other 999,999 potential viewers think. Unfortunately, that possibility won't be known.
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Perhaps the best we can hope for is for some future Internet streaming service that is interested in nitch programming for streaming.
Would you pay Netflix prices for a Streaming game show service? Would you pay a penny per minute for a la carte?
Me? Sure. Enough people to make it a profitable venture? Doubt it unless other nitch genres were also a part of the venture.