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Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: irismason42 on September 01, 2013, 09:47:47 PM

Now can any of you guys assist me? We know about the format change that began in Mo & Jeff\'s 4th match on the July 15, 1987 episode, but what about the removal of the Play or Challenge option, what episode # or what week of episodes did the Play or Challenge option finally get removed?


Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: TLEberle on September 01, 2013, 10:43:50 PM
We knew that?
Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: Thunder on September 02, 2013, 10:55:50 AM

The \"Play or Challenge\" option was taken out of the game on the episode that aired on October 14, 1987 (taped on September 12, 1987). That was episode #420.


 


 


/Would somebody please reply with \"Really?\"


Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: Ian Wallis on September 02, 2013, 11:14:19 AM

I never really liked this show very much when it was originally on, but my opinion of it\'s changed a bit recently.  It\'s actually a cute show.


 


I\'ve been watching some episodes recently which have the play/challenge option, but there\'s one thing I\'m not clear on:  if a team challenges and the other team doesn\'t get it, do they automatically get a letter in the Super Stumper, or do they still have to solve it themselves?  If they do solve it, can they pick up to two letters?


 


I\'ve never understood what happens if a team challenges and the other team doesn\'t get it.


Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on September 02, 2013, 11:16:14 AM


The \"Play or Challenge\" option was taken out of the game on the episode that aired on October 14, 1987 (taped on September 12, 1987). That was episode #420.


 


 


/Would somebody please reply with \"Really?\"




 


Well played.

Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: irismason42 on September 02, 2013, 02:57:02 PM


The \"Play or Challenge\" option was taken out of the game on the episode that aired on October 14, 1987 (taped on September 12, 1987). That was episode #420.

 

 


Actually, it was much earlier than that, Jamie Locklin uploaded an episode that began with Tom & Mary vs. Guy & Joe awhile back and the Play or Challenge option was still there. Jared Oswald recently uploaded an episode that began with Rob & Phyllise @ Final Stumper from the week of August 3-7, 1987(episode #28 to be exact) and the Play or Challenge option was eliminated, so that option only lasted but just 4-5 weeks. For those who have Game TV now or within the last year it\'d be easier to eye.
Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: irismason42 on September 02, 2013, 03:00:36 PM


I never really liked this show very much when it was originally on, but my opinion of it\'s changed a bit recently.  It\'s actually a cute show.

 

I\'ve been watching some episodes recently which have the play/challenge option, but there\'s one thing I\'m not clear on:  if a team challenges and the other team doesn\'t get it, do they automatically get a letter in the Super Stumper, or do they still have to solve it themselves?  If they do solve it, can they pick up to two letters?

 

I\'ve never understood what happens if a team challenges and the other team doesn\'t get it.


If a team Challenge, they\'d still have to solve the jump-in themselves and if they do solve, they still had to pick one space in the Super Stumper.
Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: Matt Ottinger on September 02, 2013, 04:00:40 PM


The \"Play or Challenge\" option was taken out of the game on the episode that aired on October 14, 1987 (taped on September 12, 1987). That was episode #420.


 


 


/Would somebody please reply with \"Really?\"




 


Really?

Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: TLEberle on September 02, 2013, 04:06:06 PM
I find it a curious word choice to say that if a team do solve, they still had to pick one space in the Super Stumper, as if that was some sort of penalty to be endured.
Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: whewfan on September 02, 2013, 04:15:39 PM

I think the challenge option was eliminated because most teams opted to play, so asking was a bit pointless... while it was risky to allow the other team to try to solve the plate first, it gave the team that challenged a few extra seconds to look at the plate and try to sound it out to themselves while the other team tried to solve it. It also would help the team that challenged to listen to all the wrong responses. Perhaps a better incentive would be that a successful challenge would allow the team that challenged TWO letters in the Super Stumper instead of just one. 


Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: TLEberle on September 02, 2013, 04:20:54 PM
Why bother adding the extra step? Is there a quiz show where you can buzz in and force the opponent to answer a toss-up?
Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: dmota104 on September 02, 2013, 05:37:21 PM


I think the challenge option was eliminated because most teams opted to play, so asking was a bit pointless... while it was risky to allow the other team to try to solve the plate first, it gave the team that challenged a few extra seconds to look at the plate and try to sound it out to themselves while the other team tried to solve it. It also would help the team that challenged to listen to all the wrong responses. Perhaps a better incentive would be that a successful challenge would allow the team that challenged TWO letters in the Super Stumper instead of just one. 




 


Vague recollection: Al DuBois mentioned this in the opening minute or so of an episode when the play/pass option was removed from the rules.

Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: Thunder on September 02, 2013, 07:29:45 PM


 




The \"Play or Challenge\" option was taken out of the game on the episode that aired on October 14, 1987 (taped on September 12, 1987). That was episode #420.


 


 


/Would somebody please reply with \"Really?\"




 


Really?


 




NO! NOT REALLY!


/Thank You.

Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: J.R. on September 02, 2013, 07:36:29 PM


/Would somebody please reply with \"Really?\"




These two would be more than glad to.


Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: Marc412 on September 02, 2013, 08:04:09 PM

Why bother adding the extra step? Is there a quiz show where you can buzz in and force the opponent to answer a toss-up?




Not a real one, but you can do just that in \"You Don\'t Know Jack\".
Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: rjaguar3 on September 02, 2013, 11:23:17 PM


 



Why bother adding the extra step? Is there a quiz show where you can buzz in and force the opponent to answer a toss-up?





Not a real one, but you can do just that in \"You Don\'t Know Jack\".

 




The tiebreaker in Street Smarts, too.

Title: Bumper Stumpers question about the removal of the Play/Challenge optio
Post by: TLEberle on September 02, 2013, 11:25:10 PM
So one of those is a parody of a game show, the other was used very infrequently. And by very, I mean very.

As the lead-in to some other element, would you see the option where you could force the opposition to answer the question? On Bumper Stumpers the toss-up was meant to provide more meat on the bone and to provide an interesting way to get to the board. Play-or-pass was not all that interesting.