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Title: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: catnap1972 on January 01, 2014, 09:48:00 AM
Been looking through some of Newsday's archives for various things and found some curiosities in the TV listings that I didn't know (or remember):

* Hollywood Squares aired both on WPIX and WABC during parts of 1981?  Were the former reruns?  Also didn't remember that WPIX had an 8-10pm block of game shows during the late '70s.

* Syndie YDS re-ran up until late 1980 on WPIX?  Seemed to be on early Saturday afternoons at the end of it's existance.

*Was wondering where (original) 3AC showed up...apparently 9 or 9:30am on WCBS.  Was it ever rerun anywhere (WOR?) once it met it's demise in first run or did it stay buried until GSN dug it up?
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: snowpeck on January 01, 2014, 03:27:33 PM
I have a WPIX airing of Hollywood Squares on tape from around that time that appears to be a repeat of an NBC daytime episode. I guess there was a repeat package circulating at that time.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: Ian Wallis on January 01, 2014, 09:26:21 PM
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* Hollywood Squares aired both on WPIX and WABC during parts of 1981?

Similar thing happened in LA around the same time.  I was looking at old TVGuides not too long ago and discovered it ran weekdays on (I think) KTLA, and once-weekly on KABC.  They both seemed to be syndicated episodes from the celebrity listings.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: PYLdude on January 02, 2014, 12:22:42 AM
The way I read it, WABC was airing the syndicated weekly series for some time. Once it expanded to daily for its last season, WPIX picked it up.

9 in the morning for Three's a Crowd? Seems a little early for them to be airing a weekly, no?
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: Jimmy Owen on January 02, 2014, 06:14:40 AM
Filmways had a deal with ABC o&o's in NYC and LA for two prime access slots for HSq.  The other station that was airing the strip were given two repeat episodes to fill.

As far as 3ac is concerned, stations were offered reruns at the same time "Best of the Dating Game," Newlywed, Gong Show and Treasure Hunt were offered.  (Early 80's)  According to the back issues of TVG I have, there was at least one station in Florida that reran 3AC.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: WarioBarker on January 02, 2014, 10:13:42 AM
9 in the morning for Three's a Crowd? Seems a little early for them to be airing a weekly, no?
I thought it was a daily series.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: snowpeck on January 02, 2014, 10:46:28 AM
9 in the morning for Three's a Crowd? Seems a little early for them to be airing a weekly, no?
I thought it was a daily series.
It was available as either daily or weekly.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: Jimmy Owen on January 03, 2014, 04:45:56 AM
Yes, 3ac was a daily and weekly.  In LA, Channel 4 had it in the daytime and Channel 2 had it weekly in prime access.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: JMFabiano on January 03, 2014, 02:56:06 PM
Interesting how much game show programming WPIX really had back in the day.  I always considered (W)WOR to be the King of Games in the NYC market. 

Now which Newsday would I be looking at?

Related note: I am planning a book about NYC television in the '70s and '80s.  This thread as such is extra interesting to me.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: Jimmy Owen on January 04, 2014, 08:49:41 AM
The game shows that were on WPIX from 8-10pm were run on a somewhat haphazard way.  They were often pre-empted by Yankees games, movies, specials, etc.  As I recall, they had TTD, LMAD reruns, YDS!, Garagiola TTTT (long after they ended production) and Celebrity Charades.  Since none of those shows had a barter component, Channel 11 had the ability to schedule them as needed.  I live in Michigan, so the way I got these listings was by subscribing to a magazine called Cue New York.  They are archived in Google Books if you want to look at them.  I started getting the mag in early 1979.  By the fall of 79, WPIX changed their prime time lineup, with Jim Rockford, Private Investigator taking the 8pm slot.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: JMFabiano on January 04, 2014, 11:38:30 AM
The game shows that were on WPIX from 8-10pm were run on a somewhat haphazard way.  They were often pre-empted by Yankees games, movies, specials, etc.  As I recall, they had TTD, LMAD reruns, YDS!, Garagiola TTTT (long after they ended production) and Celebrity Charades.  Since none of those shows had a barter component, Channel 11 had the ability to schedule them as needed.  I live in Michigan, so the way I got these listings was by subscribing to a magazine called Cue New York.  They are archived in Google Books if you want to look at them.  I started getting the mag in early 1979.  By the fall of 79, WPIX changed their prime time lineup, with Jim Rockford, Private Investigator taking the 8pm slot.

$50K Pyramid aired on the station too, no? 

Cue New York had listings for all NY channels?  I ask because of course PIX and WOR are likely to turn up everywhere since they were superstations.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: Jimmy Owen on January 04, 2014, 11:54:02 AM
Cue New York had listings for all the NYC stations.  The magazine was absorbed by New York Magazine and the listings didn't last long after that.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: JMFabiano on January 04, 2014, 12:01:40 PM
I have come across listings in New York Magazine as well...interesting note: there was at least one week in December of 1983 where Fantasy and MG/HS alternated during the week in the 3 pm hour.  I didn't know they were still rerunning the former when the latter premiered, or was this a listing error?
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: Jimmy Owen on January 04, 2014, 01:31:23 PM
An error.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: catnap1972 on January 04, 2014, 03:14:43 PM

$50K Pyramid aired on the station too, no? 


February '81 had it at 10:30am (WPIX), right after HSQ (rerun).

WOR was often really weird with their scheduling...I'd thought they had a long block in the afternoon but a lot of times just had one show after the noon news then 3 or 4 shows between 6-8pm with movies in between.  Early 1980 had PtP at 12:30 then TJW-TTD-FtM after 6pm.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on January 04, 2014, 03:15:53 PM
Jimmy, did you get my PM?
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: catnap1972 on January 04, 2014, 03:43:32 PM
January 1976

7:30pm checkerboard (M-F):

WCBS: Bobby Vinton - New Treasure Hunt - Last of the Wild - $25K Pyr - Candid Camera
WNBC: HSQ -  Wild Kingdom - NTT - HSQ - Don Adams Screen Test
WABC: Snakes - MGPM - LMaD - Wild Wild World of animals - LMaD

No game shows at all on WOR or WPIX and only Cross-Wits (8pm) on WNEW
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: dale_grass on January 04, 2014, 05:50:12 PM
Jimmy, did you get my PM?

I don't think a public forum is the appropriate place for such correspondences.  Maybe PM him instead.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: PYLdude on January 05, 2014, 12:01:40 AM
9 in the morning for Three's a Crowd? Seems a little early for them to be airing a weekly, no?
I thought it was a daily series.
It was available as either daily or weekly.

Then why was its replacement sold as a weekly?

I have to call for citation.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: SRIV94 on January 05, 2014, 11:38:14 AM
Jimmy, did you get my PM?

I don't think a public forum is the appropriate place for such correspondences.  Maybe PM him instead.

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Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: WarioBarker on January 05, 2014, 12:04:26 PM
9 in the morning for Three's a Crowd? Seems a little early for them to be airing a weekly, no?
I thought it was a daily series.
It was available as either daily or weekly.
Then why was its replacement sold as a weekly?

I have to call for citation.
I can at least confirm the "available as daily" part -- the 7/24/79 Daily Variety mentions on Page 22 that 3's A Crowd and The Gong Show were going to be shown daily by some stations. The 11/28/79 Weekly issue notes on Page 54 that KNBC was going to preempt Crowd and Gong for a week to test an hour-long daily series called Closer Encounters.

I'm not sure (since all I can do is get partial blurbs), but the 11/14/79 Weekly issue seems to mention that WCBS was airing Crowd as a weekly on Page 54.

As for Camouflage, it's mentioned as being once-a-week on Page 26 of the January 2, 1980 Weekly issue, which also appears to be the earliest mention of the show in the Variety archives.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: Jimmy Owen on January 05, 2014, 12:07:24 PM
Jimmy, did you get my PM?

I don't think a public forum is the appropriate place for such correspondences.  Maybe PM him instead.

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If it was about Family Feud going twice weekly, yes I got the message.  Twice a week on KNBC started in early 1979 if memory serves.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: snowpeck on January 05, 2014, 01:57:29 PM
9 in the morning for Three's a Crowd? Seems a little early for them to be airing a weekly, no?
I thought it was a daily series.
It was available as either daily or weekly.

Then why was its replacement sold as a weekly?

I have to call for citation.

http://www.americanradiohistory.com/hd2/Archive-BC-IDX/79-OCR/BC-1979-03-05-OCR-Page-0139.pdf

http://www.americanradiohistory.com/hd2/Archive-BC-IDX/79-OCR/BC-1979-03-05-OCR-Page-0059.pdf (right hand column under Firestone)

and a mention in this article: http://www.americanradiohistory.com/hd2/Archive-BC-IDX/79-OCR/BC-1979-03-19-OCR-Page-0050.pdf
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on January 05, 2014, 02:08:07 PM
What do they mean by "260 strip, 52 weekly"? Especially when the show ran from September 17, 1979–February 1, 1980, hardly 52 weeks.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: Jimmy Owen on January 05, 2014, 02:43:14 PM
The intention was to supply 260 shows (5x52). What the stations did was up to the individual stations. WCBS ran 3ac in the morning until around June of 80.
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: catnap1972 on January 05, 2014, 05:46:05 PM
What was the availability of the other Barris shows (NG, DG and Gong Show) by early 1980?  NY had DG 5/week on WOR (7:30) while NG and Gong were only 1/week (all three competed on Friday nights at 7:30)
Title: Re: NY TV listings observations (questions)
Post by: SRIV94 on January 05, 2014, 09:10:01 PM
GONG was in strip reruns then (those started in the fall of 1978), as well as the nighttime version (which I think was twice a week in 1979-80).