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Title: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: Ian Wallis on April 20, 2014, 04:16:04 PM
I was watching one of my game show DVDs the other day and noticed the prize music was the theme from another earlier game show - the exact recording.  It got my wondering how many game shows have used other shows themes as prize or other incidental music.  The first one that comes to mind regarding this topic is Wheel of Fortune, which in 1983 changed the music and "Frisco Disco" (AKA Jeopardy 1978) started popping up nearly every day as prize music.

Here's a list of what I've come up with:

--Wheel of Fortune used both 1975's Blank Check theme and 1978 Jeopardy as prize music at different times
--Dating Game '78 used 1972's Parent Game and the '73-77 Treasure Hunt theme
--Newlywed Game '77 used Parent Game
--High Rollers '78 used 1976's Hot Seat theme
--Price is Right used the original Family Feud theme and Match Game-Hollywood Squares Hour
--Let's Make a Deal '80 used both It's Anybody's Guess and the original Split Second theme during the big deal on some shows
--Truth or Consequences '77 used Money Maze theme

I'm sure there are others.  Can anyone think of other examples?
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: clemon79 on April 20, 2014, 04:32:47 PM
Can we retcon this for Merv Griffin's Crosswords?
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on April 20, 2014, 04:59:57 PM
Do pilots count?

Illinois' Instant Riches used TKO (1989) and Body Talk's (1990) theme.
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: Chief-O on April 20, 2014, 05:40:22 PM
--Let's Make a Deal '80 used both It's Anybody's Guess and the original Split Second theme during the big deal on some shows

The '84-86 version frequently used the SS intro cue as a car cue, and I believe I've heard the main theme used at least once. Also pretty certain I've seen at least one show/clip that used the IAG theme.
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: PYLdude on April 20, 2014, 06:25:03 PM
If you reverse the idea, one of the Body Language cues ended up as the closing theme for Classic Concentration.
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: WarioBarker on April 20, 2014, 06:35:46 PM
Second Chance used the I've Got a Secret '76 theme. Not sure whether the Narz Concentration was using "Splendido!" before Price did, but either way there's that.

I once read a long while back that Price used the Narz Concentration theme ("Fast Break") as a cue, but I've never been able to find anything with it.

Do pilots count?

Illinois' Instant Riches used TKO (1989) and Body Talk's (1990) theme.
If we're going that route, then the Blank Check pilots used the Now You See It theme ("Chump Change"), the 1981 Temptation used the Give-N-Take theme, and the 1984 Jackpot! used the theme from The Love Experts ("Spring Rain").
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: Mr. Matté on April 20, 2014, 07:11:55 PM
--Let's Make a Deal '80 used both It's Anybody's Guess and the original Split Second theme during the big deal on some shows

The '84-86 version frequently used the SS intro cue as a car cue, and I believe I've heard the main theme used at least once. Also pretty certain I've seen at least one show/clip that used the IAG theme.

Three for the Money's theme was also used early on in TANLMAD before the car cue exclusively became Split Second.

A lot of the aired Barris shows (TNTH, TDG, TNG) used the early 70s Barris pilot themes as prize cues.
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: BrandonFG on April 20, 2014, 07:18:57 PM
In the mid-90s, Shop Til You Drop used a modified version of Quicksilver's theme during stunts.

Ian S., LMAD84 used the actual Split Second theme, and not just the intro. I seem to remember it when Brian or Dean would talk about the car offered on the Door #4 Deal Wheel.

Does Blankety Blanks' theme showing up on Double Talk or Shoot for the Stars' theme on Jackpot count?

For pilot themes being used as show themes, Lucky Numbers showed up on High Rollers in 1987.
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: TLEberle on April 20, 2014, 09:56:55 PM
In the mid-90s, Shop Til You Drop used a modified version of Quicksilver's theme during stunts.
Interesting, I thought it was the other way 'round.
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: BillCullen1 on April 20, 2014, 11:13:18 PM
Jim Perry's Card Sharks had the same theme as Trebek's Double Dare though it was a different pitch. Cullen's Pass The Buck used the beginning of Geoff Edwards' Jackpot theme.
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: BrandonFG on April 20, 2014, 11:17:38 PM
In the mid-90s, Shop Til You Drop used a modified version of Quicksilver's theme during stunts.
Interesting, I thought it was the other way 'round.
I probably have it backwards...I just didn't notice it until Quicksilver premiered. Come to think of it, I think STYD was in reruns by summer '94, so it would make more sense to be vice versa...

Jefferson Graham's book Come on Down mentioned that $1M Chance-Lifetime used the LMaD theme for a cue. I know a few things from that book were erroneous, but I didn't watch the show that much. Was Jefferson correct on that one?
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: PYLdude on April 20, 2014, 11:24:07 PM
Jim Perry's Card Sharks had the same theme as Trebek's Double Dare though it was a different pitch.

I wouldn't call it a different pitch, instead using a different portion of the music. The Double Dare theme and the Card Sharks theme are from the same piece of music.
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: TLEberle on April 20, 2014, 11:29:27 PM
Jefferson Graham's book Come on Down mentioned that $1M Chance-Lifetime used the LMaD theme for a cue. I know a few things from that book were erroneous, but I didn't watch the show that much. Was Jefferson correct on that one?
I don't recall a place that such a piece of music would fit in: did the price package get a reading if the million dollars wasn't at hand? Maybe there, I guess.
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: BrandonFG on April 20, 2014, 11:32:56 PM
Cullen's Pass The Buck used the beginning of Geoff Edwards' Jackpot theme.
Huh? Those are two different pieces. Pass the Buck wasn't a Cobert theme (I can't find the very recent thread crediting the composer Frank Talley (http://www.amazon.com/Come-On-Down/dp/B002HI5OXG)), and the first Jackpot theme was "Jet Set" by Mike Vickers. It was, however, used on This Week in Baseball.

I don't recall a place that such a piece of music would fit in: did the price package get a reading if the million dollars wasn't at hand? Maybe there, I guess.
That's where my mind went too...
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: Mr. Matté on April 20, 2014, 11:39:13 PM
Jefferson Graham's book Come on Down mentioned that $1M Chance-Lifetime used the LMaD theme for a cue. I know a few things from that book were erroneous, but I didn't watch the show that much. Was Jefferson correct on that one?
I don't recall a place that such a piece of music would fit in: did the price package get a reading if the million dollars wasn't at hand? Maybe there, I guess.

Not $1M-Chance but the lousy Matchmaker show did randomly use the LMAD theme as shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1t4AxZenxAs#t=441
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: WarioBarker on April 21, 2014, 01:29:50 AM
Cullen's Pass The Buck used the beginning of Geoff Edwards' Jackpot theme.
Huh? Those are two different pieces.
Pretty sure he's referring to the intro cue (before the name of the show was said), rather than the main theme.
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: BrandonFG on April 21, 2014, 02:07:18 AM
Cullen's Pass The Buck used the beginning of Geoff Edwards' Jackpot theme.
Huh? Those are two different pieces.
Pretty sure he's referring to the intro cue (before the name of the show was said), rather than the main theme.
Ah gotcha. Carry on.
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: BillCullen1 on April 21, 2014, 09:45:42 AM
Cullen's Pass The Buck used the beginning of Geoff Edwards' Jackpot theme.
Huh? Those are two different pieces.
Pretty sure he's referring to the intro cue (before the name of the show was said), rather than the main theme.

Right you are!  :)
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: TimK2003 on April 21, 2014, 10:07:28 AM
Most of the time, the music cues would bounce between shows by the same producer (Chuck Barris' cues are a great example). 

One of the few that bucked that trend was the one prize cue used on B&E's "Break The Bank", which was also used as a prize description cue during the Alan Thicke music era of "Wheel Of Fortune".
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: Eric Paddon on April 21, 2014, 04:54:24 PM
Syndie WML used the "He Said, She Said" theme for the "Who's Who" segment in its final two years.
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: alfonzos on April 21, 2014, 10:28:44 PM
Three on a Match used the music played under the prize descriptions from Cullen's TPiR. Of course, this show shares it's theme with Personality.
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: geno57 on April 22, 2014, 09:57:04 AM
Three on a Match used the music played under the prize descriptions from Cullen's TPiR. Of course, this show shares it's theme with Personality.

And then there's the Cobert-penned Cullen TPIR theme, which rested for a year or two ... and then became the theme for Ed McMahon's Snap Judgment.
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: WhammyPower on April 22, 2014, 02:45:16 PM
A slightly obvious, but missing entry: Break the Bank's theme was also used as the theme for TJW's $1,000,000 tournament.
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: jimlangefan on April 22, 2014, 02:57:49 PM
In the mid-90s, Shop Til You Drop used a modified version of Quicksilver's theme during stunts.

Ian S., LMAD84 used the actual Split Second theme, and not just the intro. I seem to remember it when Brian or Dean would talk about the car offered on the Door #4 Deal Wheel.

Does Blankety Blanks' theme showing up on Double Talk or Shoot for the Stars' theme on Jackpot count?

For pilot themes being used as show themes, Lucky Numbers showed up on High Rollers in 1987.

Yes, TANLMAD used the actual Split Second theme for about the first half of the first season, before using exclusively the intro for cars. The end stinger was used for Door #4 and The Big Deal amount reveal for most of the series.  Pretty much most of Hatos-Hall's other shows themes eventually became cues on LMAD by the 1976-1977 season, when the show moved permanently to Las Vegas and Ivan Ditmars retired.  Even the LMAD '80 theme was used a bumper cue for TANLMAD. 
Title: Re: Game show themes used on other game shows
Post by: Don Howard on April 22, 2014, 03:06:27 PM
The Play the Percentages theme was also used for Juvenile Jury starring Nipsey Russell.
Plus, the contestant/celebrity intro music from To Say The Least was sometimes used as prize description music on (The New) High Rollers.

A slightly obvious, but missing entry

There will usually be missing entries within threads like these; not necessarily obvious because sometimes people innocently forget. I suspect none of the posters who preceded you meant to offend you by leaving out Mr. Levin's composition.