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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: GSWitch on January 07, 2004, 05:48:00 PM
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JACKPOT!!!
NBC debuts a new game show that shifted Jeopardy! over to 9:30 while it occupy it's 11:00 time slot!
Geoff Edwards now had something in common with Dick Clark. They commuted from LA to New York. Geoff was doing The New Treasure Hunt @ the time.
The theme song would later go on to become This Week in Baseball!
16 contestants played for a week, answering riddles & winning jackpot/super jackpot amounts.
In a bloopers book I have, here's something that Jerry Springer would like...
GIRL: For $200, this is my riddle. First you make the sale, then you open the
drawer. What am I?
GUY: A hooker?
GIRL: A cash register, you LOUSE!
NBC's Jackpot lasted 1 1/2 years & in the summer of 1975, moved to 11:30 to make room for Magnificent Marble Machine.
10 years later, the show moved to Canada & to USA cable where it had the longest run, 3 years. The USA version was hosted by Mike Darrow & was taped in Toronto.
The 3rd incarnation brought Geoff back while he was doing Chain Reaction in Montreal. The 1989-90 syndicated series didn't attract audiences because of the talk show fad.
Happy 30th anniversary to Jackpot! And remember, the next time you watch This Week In Baseball, you'll never know when some fan who caught a home run ball will stand up & yell...
"JACKPOT!"
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Jan 7 2004, 05:48 PM\'] The 3rd incarnation brought Geoff back while he was doing Chain Reaction in Montreal. The 1989-90 syndicated series didn't attract audiences because of the talk show fad.
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Is it true that Jackpot '89 was supposed to get a second season, but the company went bankrupt or something to that effect?
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Is it true that Jackpot '89 was supposed to get a second season, but the company went bankrupt or something to that effect?
Seems that way...besides, the talk show fad didn't start until fall 1991, after every GS which premiered during the previous season flopped.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jan 7 2004, 06:34 PM\']
Is it true that Jackpot '89 was supposed to get a second season, but the company went bankrupt or something to that effect? [/quote]
Geoff said the show got good enough ratings to run through the 1989-90 season at least, but the syndicator, Palladium Entertainment, ran out of cash and went belly up. 13 weeks of shows were made, and then the 13 weeks were repeated.
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Jan 7 2004, 05:48 PM\'] In a bloopers book I have, here's something that Jerry Springer would like...
GIRL: For $200, this is my riddle. First you make the sale, then you open the
drawer. What am I?
GUY: A hooker?
GIRL: A cash register, you LOUSE!
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Was this bit by chance on some kind of recording? I ask because when I was a lot younger, I used to listen to rap music. I had a tape from 2 Live Crew and I specifically remember this bit being heard word for word from people who were NOT part of the group.
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If you'd like to, you can help commemmorate the occasion by visiting my Jackpot fanpage at my site.
Cordially,
Tammy Warner--the 'Elaine Fulkerson of the Big Board!'
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Seems that way...besides, the talk show fad didn't start until fall 1991, after every GS which premiered during the previous season flopped.
That may be true, but it was quite common as far back as the mid-80s for some network affiliates to pre-empt certain game shows during the day to run syndicated talk shows. My area was specifially bad for that. The fad started to build around that time.
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jan 7 2004, 06:37 PM\']
Seems that way...besides, the talk show fad didn't start until fall 1991, after every GS which premiered during the previous season flopped.
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The only 1990-91 season rookie syndie game show that did get renewed was Davidson $100K Pyamid, but it only made it halfway through the 1991-92 season.
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That may be true, but it was quite common as far back as the mid-80s for some network affiliates to pre-empt certain game shows during the day to run syndicated talk shows.
Especially on the Group W stations, since they basically had to show all syndicated talk shows that the company had in production.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jan 8 2004, 11:42 PM\']
Especially on the Group W stations, since they basically had to show all syndicated talk shows that the company had in production.
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KYW in Philly did preempt a couple 80s NBC game shows due to Hour Magazine IIRC, but KDKA in Pittsburgh preempted only 1.5 CBS game shows that I can recall, the 1986 episodes of PYL and the first half of the hour long Feud. Both those shows were replaced with reruns: Hart to Hart and 3's Company IIRC.
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jan 8 2004, 11:42 PM\']
That may be true, but it was quite common as far back as the mid-80s for some network affiliates to pre-empt certain game shows during the day to run syndicated talk shows.
Especially on the Group W stations, since they basically had to show all syndicated talk shows that the company had in production.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby") [/quote]
Were they also forced to carry "Couch Potatoes"? (and just who was Group W anyhow?)
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 01:19 PM\'] Were they also forced to carry "Couch Potatoes"? (and just who was Group W anyhow?) [/quote]
Group W had to do with Westinghouse, whose stations all had the same font (someone else can clarify which it was), they had stations including, but not limited to:
KDKA, Pittsburgh (CBS)
KYW, Philadelphia (NBC)
WJZ, Baltimore (ABC)
KPIX, San Francisco (CBS)
These stations ran the same syndicated fare, and they also had "PM Magazine", except on those stations, it was called "Evening Magazine" for some reason or another.
When Westinghouse and CBS teamed up in 1995, the stations that weren't CBS (and I'm sure there are more of them than the ones I included) became CBS. WJZ became CBS on 1/2/95 (setting off the Baltimore Network Musical Chairs), and KYW became CBS on 9/10/95.
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 02:16 PM\'][quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 01:19 PM\'] Were they also forced to carry "Couch Potatoes"? (and just who was Group W anyhow?) [/quote]
Group W had to do with Westinghouse, whose stations all had the same font (someone else can clarify which it was), they had stations including, but not limited to:
KDKA, Pittsburgh (CBS)
KYW, Philadelphia (NBC)
WJZ, Baltimore (ABC)
KPIX, San Francisco (CBS)[/quote]
And WBZ Boston, "The Spirit of New England," as Tom Bergeron can readily tell you (NBC affiliate back then).
In the 80s, I believe they acquired WRET Charlotte from Ted Turner and affiliated it with NBC. Forget which call letters they changed it to--but Belo owns the station now after it was sold to the network, I believe.
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 02:16 PM\'] [quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 01:19 PM\'] Were they also forced to carry "Couch Potatoes"? (and just who was Group W anyhow?) [/quote]
Group W had to do with Westinghouse, whose stations all had the same font (someone else can clarify which it was), they had stations including, but not limited to:
KDKA, Pittsburgh (CBS)
KYW, Philadelphia (NBC)
WJZ, Baltimore (ABC)
KPIX, San Francisco (CBS)
These stations ran the same syndicated fare, and they also had "PM Magazine", except on those stations, it was called "Evening Magazine" for some reason or another.
When Westinghouse and CBS teamed up in 1995, the stations that weren't CBS (and I'm sure there are more of them than the ones I included) became CBS. WJZ became CBS on 1/2/95 (setting off the Baltimore Network Musical Chairs), and KYW became CBS on 9/10/95. [/quote]
Didn't Group W also have a hand in "Every Second Counts?" I think I remember seeing that in the Encyclopedia...either that or "Dream House."
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 02:26 PM\']Didn't Group W also have a hand in "Every Second Counts?" I think I remember seeing that in the Encyclopedia...either that or "Dream House."[/quote]
They produced both and syndicated "Every Second Counts," under the direct or indirect control of Bob Rubin, the man who actually ran "J!" for Merv for the entire original network run.
I would assume that King World as successor to Group W Productions still owns format rights to both shows, unless Don Reid took "Dream House" back.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 08:20 AM\'] and the first half of the hour long Feud. Both those shows were replaced with reruns: Hart to Hart and 3's Company IIRC. [/quote]
Zach, I'm from Philly, and I remember watching the first episode of the Family Feud challenge and remember it being on for an hour. Did KYW start pre-empting the first half hour later in the run?
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[quote name=\'Card Shark\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 07:11 PM\'] [quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 08:20 AM\'] and the first half of the hour long Feud. Both those shows were replaced with reruns: Hart to Hart and 3's Company IIRC. [/quote]
Zach, I'm from Philly, and I remember watching the first episode of the Family Feud challenge and remember it being on for an hour. Did KYW start pre-empting the first half hour later in the run? [/quote]
WHat you are quoting involves KDKA(CBS then and now in Pittsburgh), who preempted the first half of FF CHallenge for most of its run. At that time, KYW was still NBC in Philly and WCAU was CBS in Philly(they switched in 1995). WCAU didn't preempt any CBS game shows from the late 70s-1995 as I can recall(exception being the fifth episode of the 1986 primetime TPIR run, which they preempted for an Eagles Football preview special)
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 07:29 PM\'] WHat you are quoting involves KDKA(CBS then and now in Pittsburgh), who preempted the first half of FF CHallenge for most of its run. At that time, KYW was still NBC in Philly and WCAU was CBS in Philly(they switched in 1995). WCAU didn't preempt any CBS game shows from the late 70s-1995 as I can recall(exception being the fifth episode of the 1986 primetime TPIR run, which they preempted for an Eagles Football preview special) [/quote]
Yes, you're right. I meant WCAU. Still, to this day, when I visit my parents, I get confused about the change that has been in effect since 1995. But, WCAU didn't pre-empt the first half hour of Feud in Philly, at least not in the beginning. I specifically remember watching the first episode with a friend of mine and remember Ray stating that it was their first hour long show.
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[quote name=\'Card Shark\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 07:37 PM\'] WCAU didn't pre-empt the first half hour of Feud in Philly, at least not in the beginning. [/quote]
They always aired the whole hour of FF Challenge. When the CBS Feud ended, the syndie Feud aired from 10-11AM EST for the 1993-94 on WCAU(one new episode and one repeat episode)
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 02:16 PM\'] (Group W) stations ran the same syndicated fare, and they also had "PM Magazine", except on those stations, it was called "Evening Magazine" for some reason or another.
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Weren't "Evening Magazine" and "PM Magazine" two different shows? I seem to recall that the KPIX version of Evening Magazine featured local personalities as the hosts (this was definitely the case when they went to Australia one time, as a local DJ went with Joe Montana to the Australian (Rules) Football training camp in Geelong.
Anyway, the only game shows that KPIX pre-empted were TPIR (through something like 1990 - the hour-long ones were pre-empted for a local morning show, then later for the Group W talk show of the moment), Gambit (at least early on - note TJW aired on KPIX from the start), and Spin-Off (I can't think why, especially as they ran not only Musical Chairs, but when Spin-Off was cancelled, they aired Give & Take from the start).
-- Don
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Jan 7 2004, 05:48 PM\'] GIRL: For $200, this is my riddle. First you make the sale, then you open the drawer. What am I?
GUY: A hooker?
GIRL: A cash register, you LOUSE!
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I think the classic moment from the NBC era was:
Q: I'm an Egyptian's favorite game show. What am I?
A: Well, for a Jew, it's "Jeopardy!"
(Geoff has a hysteria fit, as does half the audience)
This resulted in one of the "unwritten bonus prizes" being given to the answerer; a round-trip ticket somewhere (I think it was to see her parents; she had mentioned it earlier in the week).
(This wasn't the only show to do this; I think the Cullen $25,000 Pyramid had an "unwritten" $1000 bonus (I think Cullen called it an Emmy for whatever reason) for a similar event that happened during gameplay.)
-- Don
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[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 10:23 PM\']
I think the classic moment from the NBC era was:
Q: I'm an Egyptian's favorite game show. What am I?
A: Well, for a Jew, it's "Jeopardy!"
(Geoff has a hysteria fit, as does half the audience)
This resulted in one of the "unwritten bonus prizes" being given to the answerer; a round-trip ticket somewhere (I think it was to see her parents; she had mentioned it earlier in the week).
(This wasn't the only show to do this; I think the Cullen $25,000 Pyramid had an "unwritten" $1000 bonus (I think Cullen called it an Emmy for whatever reason) for a similar event that happened during gameplay.)
-- Don [/quote]
Bob Stewart had another unwritten rule in the 80s Pyramid: A contestant who was not a returning champion who played and lost two perfect 21-21 maingames won a trip or prize. The show also gave a trip to a man in the service, out of the goodness of their heart(Bob Stewart's heart is arguably not big)
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[quote name=\'That Don Guy\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 07:17 PM\'] Weren't "Evening Magazine" and "PM Magazine" two different shows? I seem to recall that the KPIX version of Evening Magazine featured local personalities as the hosts (this was definitely the case when they went to Australia one time, as a local DJ went with Joe Montana to the Australian (Rules) Football training camp in Geelong. [/quote]
"PM Magazine" was the nationally syndicated title for the "Evening Magazine" concept. (I guess the different title gave the non-Group W stations slightly more latitude in when they wanted to schedule it...why, it could be anytime between noon and midnight! Hee hee.)
Anyway, as far as I know, there were local hosts on every "Evening Magazine"/"PM Magazine" station; some of the pieces would be shared nationally, but others were local-only.
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Anyway, as far as I know, there were local hosts on every "Evening Magazine"/"PM Magazine" station; some of the pieces would be shared nationally, but others were local-only.
And one of the local hosts in the mid-80s was a guy you might have heard of...I think his name was Jim Caldwell. :-)
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 09:57 PM\'] Bob Stewart had another unwritten rule in the 80s Pyramid: A contestant who was not a returning champion who played and lost two perfect 21-21 maingames won a trip or prize. The show also gave a trip to a man in the service, out of the goodness of their heart(Bob Stewart's heart is arguably not big) [/quote]
On a 1977 or 1978 $20,000 Pyramid episode, Nipsey Russell (female player) & Sandy Duncan (male player) battled it out to a 43-42 score!
Before starting the next game, Dick Clark inofrmed everyone that Bob Stewart will give the male player $200 for that longevity game!
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Jan 10 2004, 01:03 PM\'] [quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 09:57 PM\'] Bob Stewart had another unwritten rule in the 80s Pyramid: A contestant who was not a returning champion who played and lost two perfect 21-21 maingames won a trip or prize. The show also gave a trip to a man in the service, out of the goodness of their heart(Bob Stewart's heart is arguably not big) [/quote]
On a 1977 or 1978 $20,000 Pyramid episode, Nipsey Russell (female player) & Sandy Duncan (male player) battled it out to a 43-42 score!
Before starting the next game, Dick Clark inofrmed everyone that Bob Stewart will give the male player $200 for that longevity game! [/quote]
And that was probably the first and last time Bob Stewart ever gave out money when he didn't need to. :-)
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Jan 10 2004, 01:03 PM\'] [quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jan 9 2004, 09:57 PM\'] Bob Stewart had another unwritten rule in the 80s Pyramid: A contestant who was not a returning champion who played and lost two perfect 21-21 maingames won a trip or prize. The show also gave a trip to a man in the service, out of the goodness of their heart(Bob Stewart's heart is arguably not big) [/quote]
On a 1977 or 1978 $20,000 Pyramid episode, Nipsey Russell (female player) & Sandy Duncan (male player) battled it out to a 43-42 score!
Before starting the next game, Dick Clark inofrmed everyone that Bob Stewart will give the male player $200 for that longevity game! [/quote]
$200. How generous. *roll eyes*
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"PM Magazine" was the nationally syndicated title for the "Evening Magazine" concept. (I guess the different title gave the non-Group W stations slightly more latitude in when they wanted to schedule it...why, it could be anytime between noon and midnight! Hee hee.)
In Cleveland, it was scheduled at 7:00 or 7:30 PM on then CBS affiliate, WJW-8. I'm probably one of the 6 people that miss this show.
Anyway, as far as I know, there were local hosts on every "Evening Magazine"/"PM Magazine" station; some of the pieces would be shared nationally, but others were local-only.
Yep. Wasn't Mr. Food a part of this? \
There were two hosts here-one was the sickeningly sweet Jan Jones, does anyone know the other?
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[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' date=\'Jan 11 2004, 11:24 PM\'] There were two hosts here-one was the sickeningly sweet Jan Jones, does anyone know the other? [/quote]
When Jan was the co-host, I think Michael Stanley was the male half of the hosting pair. Jan has a game show connection, by the way. She co-hosted The Ohio Lottery Show with Don Webster after Barney Tremblay departed.
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I guess the [PM Magazine] title gave the non-Group W stations slightly more latitude in when they wanted to schedule it...why, it could be anytime between noon and midnight! Hee hee.
In the Tampa Bay area, PM Magazine was seen from 1980 to sometime in the mid-1980s on WTOG ch.44 (WTSP ch.10 picked it up afterwards and carried it to sometile in the late 1980s). Both 10 and 44 carried the show during the 7PM hour.
But near PM's end of its ch.44 run, the station scheduled PM at 12 Midnight, when it's technically "AM".
Wasn't Mr. Food a part of this?
No, but Chef Tell was.
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And here's the neat part about the show, when it came back in the 1980's with Mike Darrow as host:
Anyone who answered 15 straight riddles won a new car! Pretty neat, I should say!
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And here's the neat part about the show, when it came back in the 1980's with Mike Darrow as host:
Anyone who answered 15 straight riddles won a new car! Pretty neat, I should say!
That was also offered on the original version, actually.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'rugrats1\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 12:26 AM\']
Wasn't Mr. Food a part of this?
No, but Chef Tell was.[/quote]
"And I zee you!"
(In Chicago, "PM Magazine" was on WFLD twice during the 80s, first from 1980-82 and from 1984-85ish, both at 7 p.m. My cable company also aired its last stand in New York on WWOR in 1987-88, the only non-Westinghouse station to use the "Evening Magazine" title--by 1988, it was replaced by Group W with the national, tabolidy "This Evening" with Nancy Glass).
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In a desparate attempt to drag this back on topic...
Not only did Westinghouse (Group W) syndicate the "Evening Magazine" segments to local stations for "PM Magazine" but for a while, it syndicated another show, "Hour Magazine," aimed at housewives and hosted by Gary Collins, husband of...
OB GAME SHOW MOMENT....
Occasional MG 7x panelist Mary Ann Mobley!
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My cable company also aired its last stand in New York on WWOR in 1987-88, the only non-Westinghouse station to use the "Evening Magazine" title...
Currently in Seattle, Belo-owned King-5 has "Evening Magazine" scheduled weeknights -- was King-5's "Evening Magazine" ever connected to "PM Magazine"?
And as for WWOR, I read somewhere that Group W originally had plans to boy the station in the mid-1980s from RKO, but those plans were later discarded after MCA bought the station.
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[quote name=\'rugrats1\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 07:03 PM\'] And as for WWOR, I read somewhere that Group W originally had plans to boy the station in the mid-1980s from RKO, ... [/quote]
Did they girl it instead? [ducking BIG time]
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[quote name=\'gameshowguy2000\' date=\'Jan 11 2004, 11:48 PM\'] And here's the neat part about the show, when it came back in the 1980's with Mike Darrow as host:
Anyone who answered 15 straight riddles won a new car! Pretty neat, I should say! [/quote]
Also on the USA version;
THE $1,000 BONUS: If the Jackpot riddle is picked last!
THE $10,000 RIDDLER: Whoever answered the most riddles in a 10 week period won $10,000. It also offered a trip to Europe for a 6 week period.
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[quote name=\'GSWitch\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 09:18 PM\']
THE $10,000 RIDDLER: Whoever answered the most riddles in a 10 week period won $10,000. It also offered a trip to Europe for a 6 week period. [/quote]
The trips were offered for the final "riddler of the week contest" of the second and third seasons because the USA Jackpot! seasons were 26 weeks each(season two's trip was to England and Switzerland, third season trip was to Israel)
The "$50,000 riddle" would appear in season three. The riddle would appear in a couple of games a week. If the person answered the riddle, they would share in $50K along with the other players who answered such a riddle during the season(3 people solved such a riddle during the third season)
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[quote name=\'rugrats1\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 07:03 PM\']
My cable company also aired its last stand in New York on WWOR in 1987-88, the only non-Westinghouse station to use the "Evening Magazine" title...
Currently in Seattle, Belo-owned King-5 has "Evening Magazine" scheduled weeknights -- was King-5's "Evening Magazine" ever connected to "PM Magazine"?[/quote]
Well, I could tell you, except that KING wants you to register to find that out. [Dana Carvey as G.H.W. Bush] Not gonna do that, wouldn't be prudent... [DC as GHWB]
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Jan 13 2004, 10:17 AM\'] [quote name=\'rugrats1\' date=\'Jan 12 2004, 07:03 PM\']
My cable company also aired its last stand in New York on WWOR in 1987-88, the only non-Westinghouse station to use the "Evening Magazine" title...
Currently in Seattle, Belo-owned King-5 has "Evening Magazine" scheduled weeknights -- was King-5's "Evening Magazine" ever connected to "PM Magazine"?[/quote]
Well, I could tell you, except that KING wants you to register to find that out. [Dana Carvey as G.H.W. Bush] Not gonna do that, wouldn't be prudent... [DC as GHWB] [/quote]
Didn't hurt anything, either, so I did it.
And it doesn't say much, aside from that the show debuted in the summer if 1986, and some hooey about how "Evening Magazine" is truly a homegrown product, from concept to the production to the daily broadcast", which is a crock because KPIX out of SF used to run an Evening Magazine as well long before '86.
I do know this...many versions of "PM Magazine" used the same musical stings and jingles as "Evening" did at the time. So draw from that what you will.
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You know, I almost forgot about this show. I would watch it pretty much every day then after school(Darrow version). It was a different game show, but a decent one.