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Title: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: snowpeck on December 03, 2014, 09:06:51 PM
According to the latest GSN schedule PDF, the week of 12/15 brings us the first of what looks to be more than one installment of "Game Show Flashback" hosted by Ben Gleib.

Episode #1001 of that airs Tuesday the 16th at 9PM and 12:30AM. It also airs Sunday morning at 11AM.

Also that night, two episodes of the 1972 version of I've Got a Secret air at 2AM. The 2AM hour for the next three nights are one episode each of the original WML? and IGAS72.

Then on Sunday the 20th, it looks like another Time Capsule at 11PM. First is a Bruner WML? with Betty White, then what looks to be a daytime Collyer TTTT, also with Betty White.

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Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: WarioBarker on December 04, 2014, 04:32:07 AM
Was the syndicated I've Got A Secret weekly or daily? Based on the listings, I want to say it was weekly or twice-weekly.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: Bryce L. on December 04, 2014, 04:43:08 AM
Was the syndicated I've Got A Secret weekly or daily? Based on the listings, I want to say it was weekly or twice-weekly.
Per Wikipedia (take that for what it's worth), it was a weekly series.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: jjman920 on December 04, 2014, 08:53:28 AM
Oh boy. Very happy to see panel week return once again.

I enjoy Garry Moore IGAS the best out of any other version. So I'm slightly disappointed to see that they won't be running that this go-round. Still, seeing Rod Serling and Steve Allen play Pong is one of the enjoyable and memorable moments from the '72 version.

I'm not verbose in TTTT production numbers. Does 1564 mean the 4th show from the 156th week or the actual 1,564th show? Or something else entirely? Interesting that Betty White is the only one listed. Perhaps the panel was set at that point and Betty was the guest panelist. It doesn't matter, just wondering.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: snowpeck on December 04, 2014, 10:07:31 AM
I'm not verbose in TTTT production numbers. Does 1564 mean the 4th show from the 156th week or the actual 1,564th show? Or something else entirely? Interesting that Betty White is the only one listed. Perhaps the panel was set at that point and Betty was the guest panelist. It doesn't matter, just wondering.
The episode posted on YouTube by Hedy Lamarr's family is #1545. I think it was just sequential numbering. The 154th week would have been much earlier in the run. That also should mean the episode GSN is running is from the later color era of that version with the new set and theme.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: Vahan_Nisanian on December 04, 2014, 10:26:43 AM
Greg, I remember GSN running more than two color episodes of TTTT with Collyer in 1997, just weeks before the G-T library rights were lost. They had the old set, with the powder-blue background. Am I correct in my memory?
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: jjman920 on December 04, 2014, 11:00:36 AM
I'm not verbose in TTTT production numbers. Does 1564 mean the 4th show from the 156th week or the actual 1,564th show? Or something else entirely? Interesting that Betty White is the only one listed. Perhaps the panel was set at that point and Betty was the guest panelist. It doesn't matter, just wondering.
The episode posted on YouTube by Hedy Lamarr's family is #1545. I think it was just sequential numbering. The 154th week would have been much earlier in the run. That also should mean the episode GSN is running is from the later color era of that version with the new set and theme.
The only color episode I've seen with Betty White on the new set was her appearance as an impostor for Ms. Drumstick (posted on YouTube). That might explain why she was the only one listed. Also, I've never even seen the whole color episode, only the segment featuring Betty. I don't know if it's floating around elsewhere, but this could be a rare showing if it's not.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: snowpeck on December 04, 2014, 11:29:11 AM
Greg, I remember GSN running more than two color episodes of TTTT with Collyer in 1997, just weeks before the G-T library rights were lost. They had the old set, with the powder-blue background. Am I correct in my memory?
Yes they ran a few color shows from before the set change.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: jjman920 on December 04, 2014, 02:05:56 PM
Woah. As reported by Buzzerblog, Christmas Eve will feature an airing of What's My Line? at 25.

It used to be on YT, but I think it's been taken down. So it'll be great to see it again.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: MikeK on December 04, 2014, 02:24:44 PM
Woah. As reported by Buzzerblog, Christmas Eve will feature an airing of What's My Line? at 25.

It used to be on YT, but I think it's been taken down. So it'll be great to see it again.
I posted it, but removed it and most copyrighted material from my YT page at least 3 years ago.  Now, you can enjoy 2-year-old videos of my cat making football predictions.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: Jimmy Owen on December 05, 2014, 04:48:00 AM
Woah. As reported by Buzzerblog, Christmas Eve will feature an airing of What's My Line? at 25.

It used to be on YT, but I think it's been taken down. So it'll be great to see it again.
I posted it, but removed it and most copyrighted material from my YT page at least 3 years ago.  Now, you can enjoy 2-year-old videos of my cat making football predictions.
I think the NFL owns copyright on those cat videos. :)
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: BillCullen1 on December 17, 2014, 09:33:52 PM
Nice eps of Steve Allen color IGAS last night, with Rod Serling and Allen Ludden as the guests, respectively. Of the panelists seen, Pat Carroll, Anita Gillette and Nanette Fabray are still with us, and Nanette is 94.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: BillCullen1 on December 21, 2014, 12:39:47 PM
Other guests on IGAS were Anne Meara, Joan Rivers and Alan Alda. The Alda show had Jayne Meadows, Bill Bixby and Jack Cassidy as panelists. On WML, the MGs included Lucy, Hugh Hefner and Art Carney, who Bennett called Al Carney. Art said "point of order."

Looking forward to the color eps of WML and TTTT.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: Esoteric Eric on December 21, 2014, 03:28:38 PM
The Alda [IGAS] had Jayne Meadows, Bill Bixby and Jack Cassidy as panelists.
The fourth panelist was Bixby's then-wife, the ill-fated Brenda Benet (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0070935/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm) (although Steverino called her "Brenda Bixby".)
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: BillCullen1 on December 22, 2014, 10:42:51 AM
Question - I've noticed on the '72 IGAS, Steve does not mention any prize money to the contestants. I wonder if they got any or they just got the prizes Johnny O announced. I know on the four eps of IGAS that Cullen hosted in '76, the contestants got no money.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: Matt Ottinger on December 22, 2014, 01:30:04 PM
Question - I've noticed on the '72 IGAS, Steve does not mention any prize money to the contestants. I wonder if they got any or they just got the prizes Johnny O announced. I know on the four eps of IGAS that Cullen hosted in '76, the contestants got no money.

In the seventies, the G-T people stumbled across a bit of brilliance when it came to their two main panel shows.  People didn't care whether the "contestants" (who really didn't do anything) won anything or not.  So they just dropped it.  They were content to play the guessing game for a couple of minutes, then demonstrate and/or explain the guest's "secret" and/or "line".  Contestant received prizes, mostly to maintain the artifice that this was a game show, but for them, the chance to be on television, and the exposure that could bring to their business or book, was work more than a token cash prize.

This is such a simple concept that it's astonishing how many panel shows (including kids shows) have messed it up since.  No one wants to watch a game being played badly.  Go no further than our consensus on Celebrity Name Game to be reminded of that.  Plus, you always want to root for the contestant, especially a solo one.  On a panel show, if there's a prize for "stumping" the panel, those two fundamental concepts are at odds with each other.  If you want the contestant to win, you have to hope the game is played badly.  If you want to watch the celebrities play well, then you hope the contestant doesn't get the prize.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: Kevin Prather on December 22, 2014, 06:28:10 PM
The Name's the Same did it a really clever way. A contestant wins a token amount from each celebrity who doesn't solve the riddle. That means a guaranteed three prizes, and a fourth prize if the panel is stumped.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: SuperMatch93 on December 22, 2014, 06:33:46 PM
Did anyone else's DVR not record the Blyden WML episode? I had it set to record the series, but it's only recorded the Daly ones.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: That Don Guy on December 22, 2014, 09:12:12 PM
Did anyone else's DVR not record the Blyden WML episode? I had it set to record the series, but it's only recorded the Daly ones.
Mine missed it as well, even though it manages to record the color IGAS episodes with a season pass that also was set up for the B&W ones.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: That Don Guy on December 22, 2014, 09:16:41 PM
Other guests on IGAS were Anne Meara, Joan Rivers and Alan Alda. The Alda show had Jayne Meadows, Bill Bixby and Jack Cassidy as panelists. On WML, the MGs included Lucy, Hugh Hefner and Art Carney, who Bennett called Al Carney. Art said "point of order."

Looking forward to the color eps of WML and TTTT.
Wasn't "point of order" some sort of running gag in that episode?  I thought it might have had something to do with the Army-McCarthy hearings.

Also, by "color eps of TTTT", I assume you mean the (IIRC) CBS daytime Collyer eps - of course, the Garry Moore syndicated episodes were all in color.  And didn't GSN air the last Collyer daytime episode at some point?
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: snowpeck on December 22, 2014, 10:45:25 PM
The color episodes to which he's referring already aired last night (but air again Thursday afternoon.) Bruner WML and TTTT from late in the Collyer daytime run. They've aired a handful of those, including the finale.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: TimK2003 on December 22, 2014, 11:57:04 PM
Question - I've noticed on the '72 IGAS, Steve does not mention any prize money to the contestants. I wonder if they got any or they just got the prizes Johnny O announced. I know on the four eps of IGAS that Cullen hosted in '76, the contestants got no money.

But for the panel shows with interesting "contestants", didn't G/T also foot the bill for their travel from Podunk, IA to NYC with a couple of days either side of the taping? 
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: tvmitch on December 24, 2014, 12:28:37 PM
Just a note that it looks like my TiVo listings are screwed up for the upcoming What's My Line repeat tomorrow.

The listing is for "What Is My Line?" which is apparently a fishing related informercial. I chuckled a bit.

Worth a manual record just for the halibut. My TiVo season pass jobby didn't catch it.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: Esoteric Eric on December 24, 2014, 02:06:30 PM
Also note that WIML? is listed in a ninety-minute block (10:00 - 11:30pm PST). Curiouser and curiouser.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: chad1m on December 24, 2014, 02:13:15 PM
Also note that WIML? is listed in a ninety-minute block (10:00 - 11:30pm PST). Curiouser and curiouser.
It has been previously established that the airing tonight is the ABC 25th anniversary special.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: snowpeck on December 24, 2014, 02:17:09 PM
Also note that WIML? is listed in a ninety-minute block (10:00 - 11:30pm PST). Curiouser and curiouser.
That's because they're running "WML? At 25" tonight.
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: That Don Guy on December 24, 2014, 08:02:24 PM
Also note that WIML? is listed in a ninety-minute block (10:00 - 11:30pm PST). Curiouser and curiouser.
It has been previously established that the airing tonight is the ABC 25th anniversary special.
IIRC, it aired at 11:30 PM as part of ABC's late night "Wide World of Entertainment" series (which, on occasion, would air a week of Joey Bishop's talk show, which, IIRC, had Regis Philbin as his sidekick).

The only other two game show related shows I can remember that aired as part of WWOE were the National Trivia Championships (teams of three played with College Bowl-style rules) and a celebrity "treasure hunt" of some sort (four teams of three celebrities earned points by following a series of clues - for example, while riding on a miniature train, they saw a BurmaShave-style series of signs that pointed them to the Pickwick Drive-In in Burbank (which closed in 1989; it's now a shopping center with a Pavilions supermarket), although one team got confused and tried searching the Pickwick Bookstore before having to give up some points in order to make a phone call to get help).
Title: Re: Lots of panel shows the week of 12/15
Post by: mmb5 on December 27, 2014, 01:56:47 PM
And had the problem of one of the celebrities (Joe Flynn) dying 10 days after taping.