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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: whewfan on October 28, 2015, 01:41:54 PM
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I've been watching PYL on GSN and I am wondering if any of the following has happened...
A player getting 4 Whammies in round 1
A player hitting both Add a One AND Double Your Money (also if both have been hit in a single show by different players)
A player passing their spins before taking a shot at the board in ROUND ONE (I have seen one player pass all his spins before taking a shot in round two, and he ended up winning because both players hit a Whammy on their last spin)
All three players hit 4 Whammies, therefore none of them come back on the next show.
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I seriously doubt the last one happened, because that would mean someone was foolish enough to play against the house with three whammies.
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As for #5, I have a very vague memory of an episode of Second Chance where of all the contestants hit four devils in the second round. I was but a kid at the time, so I'm probably wrong.
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Pretty sure 1 and 4 never happened. Closest to the latter was all three contestants finishing with $0.
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4 whammies in round 1 never happened. The closest was on a 1984 episode where someone has three whammies in round 1 and was passed three spins. I would have loved to have seen him hit the fourth whammy just to have seen what would have happened - would he have been removed from the stage, or be allowed to sit there but not participate?
All three players with four whammies never happened either, but it came close a couple of times. Once was an August 1985 episode where someone played against the house with one whammy, then hit two in a row. He went on one more time and got something like $1250, then stopped.
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would he have been removed from the stage, or be allowed to sit there but not participate?
It came up before with deference to what it says in the show bible - the contestant would leave the stage.
-Jason
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PuxklZKNk0
Here is an instance where Alex passes all of his earned spins in round 2, and it was a very good yet still risky strategy
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Just about everything that was said here is correct, but just to make the facts official for the original questions:
1) No. Despite several instances over the run where a contestant did get a spin or two passed to them in Round 1 after getting 3 Whammies on their own, no one ever actually hit #4.
2) The only one that may have happened, but I haven't seen it myself. Maybe if we get to see the rest of run and the missing episodes one day we'll find out.
3) No. What would be the benefit?
4) No, but it came close in back to back episodes: #499 and the "lost" Back To School episode #500 that never aired in the original run. In both cases, spins were still taken after the 11th Whammy to open up the possibility, but #12 was avoided. (In #499, 1 spin was taken for Mazatlán and then the champ quit, while in #500, both of the remaining spins were taken for Disney World, $1000+ and a sailboat.)
Sidebar on #1: In the time I hosted the game at anime cons, I had 3 separate instances of 3 Whammy passes in Round 1. All managed to avoid elimination, one of them after a record 7 passed spins! And this past summer, I was witness to my friend's run of the game where a player not only got 3 Whammies in the round, but VOLUNTARILY took their last spin!
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Now I have a question: was there ever a two-way tie, above $0?
I haven't seen it since the USA era, but I seem to remember one episode where the contestant hit a "Move One Space" square, and the choices were a dollar amount and a prize. IIRC, the dollar amount would've tied, but he took the prize...and lost.
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Now I have a question: was there ever a two-way tie, above $0?
I haven't seen it since the USA era, but I seem to remember one episode where the contestant hit a "Move One Space" square, and the choices were a dollar amount and a prize. IIRC, the dollar amount would've tied, but he took the prize...and lost.
Nope. Your scenario was really close though. The contestant in the lead had $5250 IIRC, and the spinner had $2750. They landed on "Move One Space" to either $750 + One Spin or $2500. They chose the extra spin, spun the board again, only to land on........ $1250. That episode is one GSN has yet to air.
Tyshaun
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Nope. Your scenario was really close though. The contestant in the lead had $5250 IIRC, and the spinner had $2750. They landed on "Move One Space" to either $750 + One Spin or $2500. They chose the extra spin, spun the board again, only to land on........ $1250. That episode is one GSN has yet to air.
Now here's a discussion waiting to happen. Why would one want to avoid playing for the tie on PYL? We've discussed the pros and cons for Jeopardy ad nauseum. The disadvantage there is you have to play against a skilled opponent again. What could possibly make a person "skilled" at PYL? (Besides having the name Michael Larson, of course.)
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Greed.
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Greed.
Greed as in "I want more than $5250", or greed as in "I want to be the only winner"? The former is greed, the latter is douchebaggery.
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Did the contestant know that the $2500 space would have given them the tie? In the heat of the moment, I could see somebody doing that math incorrectly.
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Greed.
Greed as in "I want more than $5250", or greed as in "I want to be the only winner"? The former is greed, the latter is douchebaggery.
And it came back to bite him. I'd gladly take the $5250 and come back as co-champion, esp. 30 years ago when that kind of money was worth even more, and esp. since the extra spin could've easily been a Whammy. Regardless, I'm sure he enjoyed his Success Rice and Creamettes pasta. :p
Playing devil's advocate, I wonder if he even bothered to do the math in his head, and only saw the "+ One Spin". Obviously, Peter would've said "You need more than $2,500 to win or something with an additional spin to stay alive," but I'm wondering whether the contestant only heard the "something with an additional spin" part?
Thanks Tyshaun for the recap.
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Did the contestant know that the $2500 space would have given them the tie? In the heat of the moment, I could see somebody doing that math incorrectly.
I remember the episode from the USA rerun - Peter said that he needs $2500 to tie, any more and he's the champion - so he knew that $2500 would tie.
If GSN ever picks up the rest of the episodes, this should be the first one up.
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Greed as in "I want more than $5250", or greed as in "I want to be the only winner"? The former is greed, the latter is douchebaggery.
Forgive me, I was on my iPad.
Barring anything like "he didn't hear or do the math by looking at the scoreboards before the last spin," all I can think of is that he wanted to win more than $5,250 on that episode. That makes a picogram more sense on Whammy since you're there just the once, but did Press Your Luck simultaneously have an appearance limit as well as a winnings limit?
I think that there must have been one of those things I listed as it would be easy to not hear or pay attention to something because it is so easy to take the thing that creates a tie, makes you a new best friend forever.
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Greed as in "I want more than $5250", or greed as in "I want to be the only winner"? The former is greed, the latter is douchebaggery.
Forgive me, I was on my iPad.
Barring anything like "he didn't hear or do the math by looking at the scoreboards before the last spin," all I can think of is that he wanted to win more than $5,250 on that episode. That makes a picogram more sense on Whammy since you're there just the once, but did Press Your Luck simultaneously have an appearance limit as well as a winnings limit?
I think that there must have been one of those things I listed as it would be easy to not hear or pay attention to something because it is so easy to take the thing that creates a tie, makes you a new best friend forever.
When the winnings limit was changed to $50,000, Peter had stated that the appearance limit was "5 shows or $50,000 in winnings". He also mentioned that to a contestant who was on his fifth show and told him, regardless of the outcome, it was his last show (Chris from 1984).
My first thought with this situation was not doing the math correctly, but I'll advance another theory: not knowing what the rule for a tie was. He may have thought there would be a tie-breaker where he may not come out on top.
And, yes; I'm positive the rule for a tie was spelled out in the rules packet given to the contestants before the show. But, I'll mention a bit of my own perspective: When I was on WoF in 2006, we had that big packet of rules which, among other things, explained what happened if there was a tie after the final puzzle. Even with that, and even with everyone signing a form acknowledging they read the rules, when someone in the audience asked Charlie between tapings what happened when there was a tie, I was the *only* contestant in the pool who actually knew the answer.
I kind of put it akin to somebody always commenting, "You can have a game end in a tie?!?" anytime an NFL game does just that, even though it's been a possibility for decades.
Anthony
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With that being said, what is Wheel of Fortune's tiebreaker procedure?
I'm guessing a tossup puzzle?
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With that being said, what is Wheel of Fortune's tiebreaker procedure?
I'm guessing a tossup puzzle?
Yup, for $0. Before that it was another speed-up round, I think complete with another Final Spin.
Double Stuffed Sidebar: Since making the Prize Puzzle Permanent has there been a tie?
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Before that it was another speed-up round, I think complete with another Final Spin.
Yes, there was another Final Spin.
The daytime show, at least during the Pat and Rolf eras, brought all three players back the next day to continue the game.
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The daytime show, at least during the Pat and Rolf eras, brought all three players back the next day to continue the game.
The one time it happened during Bob's tenure they did a final puzzle with vowels worth nothing and consonants a dollar-forty each.*
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The daytime show, at least during the Pat and Rolf eras, brought all three players back the next day to continue the game.
And from what I remember from one happening that aired in summer '84 (not sure if it was a rerun or not), no bonus round played. That was....awkward.
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Yeah, instead of a Bonus Round they'd fill the last segment with something else. In the one instance I know to be among traders, from November '86 (Mike/Jill/Dawn), Pat and Vanna talked a bit and showed off the device from which the players drew numbers to determine who started the game.
Also notable is that the next episode was considered a continuation of a player's first, second, or third day. Pat noted this in the aforementioned episode as well.
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Does that also mean that the scores carried over? (I guess that probably wouldn't mean much in the shopping era, but it would still be interesting to know.)
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Not sure on that, sorry.
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Okay here's another "has this ever happened" scenario...
Has a player ever not earned ANY spins in either the first or second round? I realize the questions are not very difficult, and Peter has a set of questions that are super easy to almost guarantee that someone gets at least ONE spin.
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Okay here's another "has this ever happened" scenario...
Has a player ever not earned ANY spins in either the first or second round? I realize the questions are not very difficult, and Peter has a set of questions that are super easy to almost guarantee that someone gets at least ONE spin.
One of the players in this episode didn't earn any spins in the first round (and still won the first big board round.) Don't know if anybody ever bombed out in both question rounds though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwyQu82xY54
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Has a player ever not earned ANY spins in either the first or second round?
Three instances of one or the other, that we're aware of.
#115 - A Round 1 zero, doesn't get passed any.
#427 - Shown above, this was the other Round 1 zero, and as you can see, he got spins passed to him and won the round. ("Damon's found a new way to play this game.")
#539 - The only Round 2 zero on record, and it was the leader, which fortunately led to passed spins coming their way.