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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: DjohnsonCB on February 16, 2004, 12:07:01 AM
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Over the weekend I saw the most bizarre end-of-show credit while staying at my mother's house. She picks up one of the few remaining true independent stations in the country, KMCI "38 The Spot", which comes out of Lawrence, Kansas and is owned by Kansas City's KSHB-41, which used to be an indie itself but is now NBC.
Weeknights at 2:30 AM they carry reruns of the old "Branded" series starring Chuck Connors. They just got around to the color episodes, whose end credits mention that the show is A Mark-Goodson-Bill Todman Production (this info was missing from the end credits on the earlier B/W eps, which were kind of hacked up). Say WHAT??? I thought they gave up on drama after "Jefferson Drum" and "The Web" failed.
Even stranger is the fact that these eps--which are closed-captioned to boot, are syndicated by King World, whose name comes at the end in scratchy film form--not videotape or anything else common to production today, accompanied by some uncommon (and startling) BG music that sound like something from 40 years ago.
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Yes they did other dramas including "The Rebel" with Nick Adams and "The Richard Boone Show." They did one movie that I'm aware of, "Ride Beyond Vengeance" with Chuck Connors, Bill Bixby, Jamie Farr and Robert Q. Lewis.
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Goodson himself produced the movie Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean.
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[quote name=\'DjohnsonCB\' date=\'Feb 16 2004, 12:07 AM\']
Even stranger is the fact that these eps--which are closed-captioned to boot, are syndicated by King World, whose name comes at the end in scratchy film form[/quote]
Not so strange, indeed. "The Little Rascals" is one of King World's earliest properties, along with licensing from syndicated talk shows from the 1960's to the 1980's.
Here's a bit of trivia they never reveal about "Branded." Chuck Connors character, Jason McCord was kicked out of the army for not knowing the former "Line" of the commander responsible for the massacre at the Battle of Bitter Creek. In those days, WML was sponsored by a cereal company, KALLOGS of Bitter Creek. No one really knows much about KALLOGS since its Battle Creek competitor became the more popular cereal company.
All the best to those of us attempting to qualify for Super Millionaire!
David
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According to Maxene Fabe, G-T once - with a color TV a contestant won on the Cullen TPIR - presented a bonus prize, a cameo appearance on another G-T drama, "Jefferson Drum, Frontier Editor."
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[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Feb 16 2004, 03:18 AM\'] Goodson himself produced the movie Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean. [/quote]
Not only that, but the name Giraud Chester appears on the credits - better known as Jerry Chester, longtime G-T righthand.
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And I believe Branded was the only time G-T was ever sued for stealing an idea. The plantiff lost the case, which was based on the pilot only, since they were not that similar.
--Mike
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And Todman's son, Bill Jr, produced the 1991 Steven Seagal-Kelly LeBrock film Hard to Kill, for Warner Bros.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Feb 16 2004, 06:20 PM\'] And Todman's son, Bill Jr, produced the 1991 Steven Seagal-Kelly LeBrock film Hard to Kill, for Warner Bros. [/quote]
I also remember seeing his name as a producer for one of the Major League movies.
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Goodson and Todman were sued by John Guedel Productions over To Tell the Truth, which Guedel claimed was a rip-off of something they did on People Are Funny called Detecto. IIRC NBC intervened and an out-of-court settlement was reached.
WML? director Franklin Heller directed episodes of the G-T dramatic shows.
A fellow named Harris Katleman was in charge of the G-T dramatic series. He came back to MGP many years later and was with the company until Jonathan and his sisters sold it.
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I believe Barry-Enright was responsible for producing the 1984 sitcom "Mama Malone".
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Feb 17 2004, 08:48 AM\'] I believe Barry-Enright was responsible for producing the 1984 sitcom "Mama Malone". [/quote]
ENright produced the semi-forgettable 1987 film Making Mr. Right, along with a few other equally-forgettable 80s films. The clip for the Turtles' "Happy Together" VH1 Classic shows on their "60s generation" video hour is culled from the Making Mr. Right soundrtrack, with clips from the film
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one was somewhat unforgettable, Private Lessons. It was really disturbing to see B&E get involved in cheesy teen sex flicks. I remember watching commercials for the movie run in after-school hours on a local affiliate and seeing "A Barry and Enright Production" credit in the ad. It did well enough to do a couple of more spinoffs. Dan did get his Emmy for "Caroline?", a Hallmark Hall Of Fame entry produced by Dan's son Don and his partner. Dan later cut them loose, claiming that part of the business wasn't profitable enough. Mama Malone was held up by CBS for around a year - didn't have a lot of faith in it. Some of B&E's non-game efforts included Soap World, Jack Anderson Confidential, and they ran a pilot week of a project called Tales Of The Haunted, a 5-night a week cliffhanger suspense-type show hosted by Christopher Lee.
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[quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' date=\'Feb 17 2004, 10:10 AM\'] Mama Malone was held up by CBS for around a year - didn't have a lot of faith in it. [/quote]
The show was originally slated for a Fall 1982 premiere (even made the color section of the TV Guide Fall Preview) but was pulled after the color section went to press.
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one was somewhat unforgettable, Private Lessons. It was really disturbing to see B&E get involved in cheesy teen sex flicks. I remember watching commercials for the movie run in after-school hours on a local affiliate and seeing "A Barry and Enright Production" credit in the ad. It did well enough to do a couple of more spinoffs.
And who supplied VOs for those ads? Jay Stewart.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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The show was originally slated for a Fall 1982 premiere (even made the color section of the TV Guide Fall Preview) but was pulled after the color section went to press.
A similar gambit occured just a coupla yrs earlier w/a show called "Mr. Dugan", starring Cleavon Little as a pro football player entering politics...the show was set to premiere on CBS in Mar. 1979, even having on-air promos and a TVG ad, but was pulled just before airtime when several real-life black politicians saw a preview of the first ep and found its comedic portrayal demeaning to blacks.
This was a porblem-plagued series from the get-go, however...it was originally supposed to be a continuation of Maude until Bea Arthur decided she didn't want to continue, then a pilot was produced called "Onward and Upward" w/John Amos in the starring role...after Amos left over creative differences, Little was brought in for the next 2 pilots, "Mr. Dooley", and Mr. Dugan.
It finally made it to air in the summer of 1979 as Hanging In, starring Bill Macy (ironically, late of Maude), w/his character changed to a college professor, and lasted a mere 4 weeks.
ObGameShow: A number of HI cast members, including Macy, Nedra Volz, and Barbara Rhoades were occasional GS celebs in the mid-late 70s and early 80s.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Feb 17 2004, 11:42 AM\']
one was somewhat unforgettable, Private Lessons. It was really disturbing to see B&E get involved in cheesy teen sex flicks. I remember watching commercials for the movie run in after-school hours on a local affiliate and seeing "A Barry and Enright Production" credit in the ad. It did well enough to do a couple of more spinoffs.
And who supplied VOs for those ads? Jay Stewart.[/quote]
Only a few years after Jay made a guest appearance on "The PTL Club" to tell Jim Bakker about being born again. Praise the Lord!
And Harris Katelman's been Johnny G's business partner in his post-MGP producing career.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Feb 17 2004, 08:48 AM\'] I believe Barry-Enright was responsible for producing the 1984 sitcom "Mama Malone". [/quote]
Last summer, I caught a Barry-Enright movie done towards c. 1989...I remember doing a post about it on EZBoard, but damned if I remember the name of the movie. All I remember is that Lorimar Productions had a hand in it. I want to say "Born on the Fourth of July" for some reason.
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And Harris Katelman's been Johnny G's business partner in his post-MGP producing career.
Katleman was involved with Jonathan's company after the sale of MGP. Don't know if he still is.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Feb 17 2004, 02:58 PM\']
Last summer, I caught a Barry-Enright movie done towards c. 1989...I remember doing a post about it on EZBoard, but damned if I remember the name of the movie. All I remember is that Lorimar Productions had a hand in it. I want to say "Born on the Fourth of July" for some reason. [/quote]
Definitely not Born on the Fourth of July. That was a blockbuster. B&E films weren't known for those.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Feb 17 2004, 06:28 PM\'] [quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Feb 17 2004, 02:58 PM\']
Last summer, I caught a Barry-Enright movie done towards c. 1989...I remember doing a post about it on EZBoard, but damned if I remember the name of the movie. All I remember is that Lorimar Productions had a hand in it. I want to say "Born on the Fourth of July" for some reason. [/quote]
Definitely not Born on the Fourth of July. That was a blockbuster. B&E films weren't known for those. [/quote]
I just went over to EZBoard...it was "Next of Kin."
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Over the weekend I saw the most bizarre end-of-show credit while staying at my mother's house. She picks up one of the few remaining true independent stations in the country, KMCI "38 The Spot", which comes out of Lawrence, Kansas and is owned by Kansas City's KSHB-41, which used to be an indie itself but is now NBC.
How many independents are still out there? Here on LI, we have WLNY (TV-55), which signed on in the summer of 1985 as WLIG (the calls changed in 1997, I believe) and has been going strong ever sense.
They started w/reruns of such classic shows as Hart to Hart, The Fugitive, The Doris Day Show, and Peter Gunn...also among their early offerings were reruns of Pitfall and the Cullen Pyramid, which aired back-to-back from noon-1 PM during most of their year on the schedule.
Later, they started airing current syndie fare, and among their current offerings are Oprah, J!, WoF, Dr. Phil, Ellen DeGeneres, Judge Judy, and until this current season, HS/H2.
ObGameShow: Other syndie games carried by TV-55 include The Challengers, TJW '90, and the Davidson Pyramid.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Add to the genuine indie list WCIU in Chicago (although they do carry Kids WB! programming). They're also the current home of "Feud" and "Pyramid" and past home of "TTTT '00" second season, "TWL" second syndie season and "CS '01." And surprisingly, it was announced this week that they will be the Chicago home of "Insider," not CBS-owned WBBM--surprising considering that "H2"'s being indirectly sacrificed for "Insider." It'll be on in prime time--I'm guessing 7 p.m., with "Feud" moving to 7:30 p.m. to replace "Pyramid."
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Norfolk has WSKY-4, which is actually based in Kitty Hawk, NC. They aired the second season of TTTT2K at 5:30 and 7 pm after WVBT dropped it (yet they kept Feud). They also aired the second season of WL from 6-7 pm. Now, they air reruns of stuff you can see on any other cable network (Roseanne, Married With Children, M*A*S*H, Cheers, etc.).