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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: adamjk on May 07, 2004, 09:16:43 PM
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A while back a poster at the GSN boards made mention of the fact that during the Combs years Richard Dawson made a cameo appearance at some point. Is there any truth to this? If so, when did it happen, and which version did he appear on?
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Didn't Happen.
And now to your follow up question....
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I sorta figured. I would have heard about it by now if it were true. But I had to ask to be sure.
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Closest was when his name appeared as one of the answers on a Combs episode...think it was the "GS host as an evangelist" question from the comedian special? Ray's response: "Who's THAT?!!?"
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I consider the whole 94-95 season a cameo appearance.
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'May 8 2004, 04:44 AM\'] I consider the whole 94-95 season a cameo appearance. [/quote]
Still, I'd love to see a 94-95 episode. I've never seen one.
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[quote name=\'Particleman\' date=\'May 8 2004, 06:23 PM\'] [quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'May 8 2004, 04:44 AM\'] I consider the whole 94-95 season a cameo appearance. [/quote]
Still, I'd love to see a 94-95 episode. I've never seen one. [/quote]
You didn't miss much.
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[quote name=\'Particleman\' date=\'May 8 2004, 05:23 PM\'] [quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'May 8 2004, 04:44 AM\'] I consider the whole 94-95 season a cameo appearance. [/quote]
Still, I'd love to see a 94-95 episode. I've never seen one. [/quote]
You'd take one look at Richard and weep.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'May 9 2004, 12:12 AM\'] [quote name=\'Particleman\' date=\'May 8 2004, 05:23 PM\'] [quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'May 8 2004, 04:44 AM\'] I consider the whole 94-95 season a cameo appearance. [/quote]
Still, I'd love to see a 94-95 episode. I've never seen one. [/quote]
You'd take one look at Richard and weep. [/quote]
I liked it.
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[quote name=\'familyfeudfan\' date=\'May 9 2004, 01:29 AM\'] [quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'May 9 2004, 12:12 AM\'] [quote name=\'Particleman\' date=\'May 8 2004, 05:23 PM\'] [quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'May 8 2004, 04:44 AM\'] I consider the whole 94-95 season a cameo appearance. [/quote]
Still, I'd love to see a 94-95 episode. I've never seen one. [/quote]
You'd take one look at Richard and weep. [/quote]
I liked it. [/quote]
A while ago I asked for the first episode, call it morbid curiosity or whatever (and BTW, the first one had the former MG contestant in the second half, right?). It wasn't *THAT* horrid, actually. Don't know if it went more downhill after that or anything, though. Still, at any rate it remains the black sheep of the Feud family...yes because of the cheapening of the show and the inferior set...I know some of you like to get on the case of those who obsess about that sort of thing, but still. Plus we all knew what Richard's return led to for Ray Combs, so it will always be a sore spot as far as that's concerned.
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[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'May 10 2004, 04:19 PM\'] Still, at any rate it remains the black sheep of the Feud family...yes because of the cheapening of the show and the inferior set... [/quote]
For someone who has never seen it: what did they do to cheapen the show?
And of the set, I can't tell you how many times people have begged me to do a Family Feud game based on the 94-95 set. Was it that inferior?
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For someone who has never seen it: what did they do to cheapen the show?
And of the set, I can't tell you how many times people have begged me to do a Family Feud game based on the 94-95 set. Was it that inferior?
I assume he's referring to Bankroll, which on top of being annoying, was cheaper than its predecessor. $2,500 starting pot in half one with $500, $1500 and $2500 questions. Half two of course doubled.
The set was awful barren. On the E!THS they showed it with the cyclorama backdrop off and it looked like a dark grey room. Nothing to it at all. I imagine the requests come from curiosity or just a want for completedness. (That's not even a word...)
-Jason
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Call me crazy, but I find the "Feud 94" season to be my favorite. Sure Richard was older and fatter, but he still had a good grasp of humor (Even if he did whisper and mumble too much) and the set and music were amazing. (If a little too overly-jazzed-up), personally I felt the show needed an update after almost 18 years of the same old-fashioned set and music and the reduction of "Bullseye"-ish round "Bankroll" added in more game time.
Also, I like the "Ka-Ching" sound that was played whenever the $2500/$5000 was put into the banks. I sorta like the "Jeopardy!" style changing of the set from Blue to Red for "FM"
Asking about what was cheep about it. Max win was slashed from $30,000 to $21,000 as "Bankroll" was 3 qs worth $500, $1500, $2500 (Double that in the 2nd half) and the number of members on a family was reduced from 5 to 4.
The only thing that bugged me about it was Richard made constant refrences to his daughter and he would always say the other FM contestant is in "A Big Plastic Baggie"
-Joe R.
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Ah yes, the "plastic baggie"...which begat Louie Anderson's numerous lame FM jokes...;-)
The ka-ching was a Macintosh sound effect too, wasn't it?
Anyway, yeah, while set changes aren't all necessarily bad, this one just felt like what seemed like scaling back (see also: the bankroll observations, and the shrinking of the teams). Plus I always liked the "classic" set with the light blue and dotty board, so I did resent it for taking that from me ;-) And the chyronned board was cheesy. Looking at 100 Mexicanos Dijeron now, and Family Fortunes in the UK, would it have been that bad for the electrical board to be "outed"?
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And the chyronned board was cheesy. Looking at 100 Mexicanos Dijeron now, and Family Fortunes in the UK, would it have been that bad for the electrical board to be "outed"?
I somehow doubt this is true, but to my understanding, the chyronned board was shown to the TV audiences only. Is there any truth to that?
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'May 10 2004, 08:58 PM\']
And the chyronned board was cheesy. Looking at 100 Mexicanos Dijeron now, and Family Fortunes in the UK, would it have been that bad for the electrical board to be "outed"?
I somehow doubt this is true, but to my understanding, the chyronned board was shown to the TV audiences only. Is there any truth to that? [/quote]
We saw the Chyron board(which looks similar to what is used on the current incarnation of the show), but the people in the studio saw the FM like Ferrante Packer board used to display the answers(occasionally you'd see it on air during wide shots of the set). That same board was used during the 1993-94 season's road trip to Nashville.
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Why couldn't they show the Ferrante Packer board on air? I don't understand that. It would have saved the tech people a lot of trouble.
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'May 10 2004, 09:07 PM\'] Why couldn't they show the Ferrante Packer board on air? I don't understand that. It would have saved the tech people a lot of trouble. [/quote]
Ummmmm.........probably because THEY DIDN'T WANT TO.
(plus it'd have looked cheap)
Tyshaun
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[quote name=\'familyfeudfan\' date=\'May 9 2004, 01:29 AM\'] [quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'May 9 2004, 12:12 AM\'] [quote name=\'Particleman\' date=\'May 8 2004, 05:23 PM\'] [quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'May 8 2004, 04:44 AM\'] I consider the whole 94-95 season a cameo appearance. [/quote]
Still, I'd love to see a 94-95 episode. I've never seen one. [/quote]
You'd take one look at Richard and weep. [/quote]
I liked it. [/quote]
It was OK...even though the four-member teams seemed awkward. The set wasn't too bad, except for the Ferranti board being used the whole time, but I loved how the strobe light flashed for the winning family. Also, I would've loved for Fremantle to have used the Feud 94 theme on the current version.
As for Richard, he seemed mellowed out, although he really let himself go, gaining lots of weight.
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'May 10 2004, 08:58 PM\'] I somehow doubt this is true, but to my understanding, the chyronned board was shown to the TV audiences only. Is there any truth to that? [/quote]
Really... think about this question. Do you even know what a "chyron" is? If you do, tell me how it is possible for a chyron to be shown to the contestants on an electronic tote board.
Brandon Brooks
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Do you even know what a "chyron" is?
Maybe you probaby meant "chromakey" -- hard to explain, but it's set up where a certain color is electronically replaced with another picture.
A "chyron" is an electronic character generator -- in game show circles, "Jeopardy" is one of many game shows to use a chyron machine.
I think what Feud 94 used was a combination of chromakey (for projection) and computer graphics (for the board).
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[quote name=\'rugrats1\' date=\'May 10 2004, 08:57 PM\'] I think what Feud 94 used was a combination of chromakey (for projection) and computer graphics (for the board). [/quote]
Nope. That wasn't keyed. You'd need a single color upon which to shoot that could be keyed out and replaced with the board. And it would look like hell.
That was a pure, simple digital video effect. Device cuts out a hole in the picture the size of the gameboard, and inserts the output of the Chyron (or whatever their graphics generator was for that show) into the hole.
A Chyron is advanced enough, BTW, that it's entirely possible that the FF gameboard could run off of one.
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Does that explain the fake-board cutting off Dawsons head in a couple shots? Too big a hole?
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[quote name=\'tommycharles\' date=\'May 10 2004, 11:26 PM\'] Does that explain the fake-board cutting off Dawsons head in a couple shots? Too big a hole? [/quote]
Even easier: you can't cut the hole for the board without cutting out Dawson, right? It's not like you have "layers" to work with...you have two images...Dawson on the set, and the gameboard. So any shot where they try to superimpose the gameboard is going to cut off anything that gets in the way of the gameboard.
"So how do they do that trick on baseball games where they superimpose ad signs on the backstop and it looks like players can walk in front of them, Chris?"
To which I say: it's MAGIC. ;)
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Hey, let's just say technology has advanced in the last 10 years.
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Call me crazy, but I find the "Feud 94" season to be my favorite. Sure Richard was older and fatter, but he still had a good grasp of humor (Even if he did whisper and mumble too much) and the set and music were amazing. (If a little too overly-jazzed-up), personally I felt the show needed an update after almost 18 years of the same old-fashioned set and music and the reduction of "Bullseye"-ish round "Bankroll" added in more game time.
The Feud 94 season seemed as if it was trying to recapture some of magic from the earlier years. Richard did ok...but his monoluges were long and long-winded. The cheaper payouts were hilariously bad- I have a win of a family winning $2,500- and in the eps. I've seen, most familed only got to 9,000 or so in bankroll 2. The set has some nice traits- I think the color scheme was chosen very well, the flashbulbs at a win were nice- but with the abundance of glass block,it seemed very cold and kinda barren.
And let's not talk about those openings.
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[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'May 11 2004, 07:20 AM\'] Hey, let's just say technology has advanced in the last 10 years. [/quote]
Well, in all honesty it's a completely different technology, and you couldn't apply it to Feud 'cuz you still need a solid surface to put the image on, and they were doing a cut & cover on a digital gameboard.
I think the current version gets around it nicely with the projection TV, although it does leave me nostalgic for the analog board...
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[quote name=\'urbanpreppie05\' date=\'May 11 2004, 09:45 AM\']
The Feud 94 season seemed as if it was trying to recapture some of magic from the earlier years. Richard did ok...but his monoluges were long and long-winded. The cheaper payouts were hilariously bad- I have a win of a family winning $2,500- and in the eps. I've seen, most familed only got to 9,000 or so in bankroll 2. The set has some nice traits- I think the color scheme was chosen very well, the flashbulbs at a win were nice- but with the abundance of glass block,it seemed very cold and kinda barren.
And let's not talk about those openings. [/quote]
It was sort of a nice touch, also, reinvite families that were on the original Dawson "Feud" to come play again. It helped Richard to relax into his role.
One of my favorties is when they brought back the Trejos. Appearently in 1994, "September" still put Richard into hysterics (They showed a clip too, reminding the audience how slimmer Richard looked back then) and to add-on to the irony, the gal who said that was expecting a baby... in September !
For those who do not know, the families were introed with their faces stuck-on to a "humorus" cartoon showing them doing something "silly" then a "Camera" sound effect introed the players in the flesh. Yeah, really lame.
I though the square-glass "Feud" sign flying to the screen in a Fighter Jet "WOOOOSH" sound was cool.
-Joe R.
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Y'all have me really wanting to see a 94 or 95 episode now. I must turn now and run.
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First of all Richard never made an appearance on any of Raymond's tapings although his son worked on Raymon's years on the Feud. And also before Richards return they worked hard on him losing weight and getting in shape and maybe a little bit moretrying to get him to maybe quite drinking as much but I won't say any more than that because I wasn't in his home and I like his son and I even like Richard I don't hold Richard responsible for Raymond's passing. That would be Jonathon Goodson. Oh well vented enough I am not in a very good mood I shouldn't be in here right now. I am saddened to hear about Tony Randall. My thoughts and prayers are with his family.
~Toni Combs
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I heard on the E THS, don't know how true it is, but they mentioned that Richard was supposed to lose weight before the show began taping. He had told them he would. But they said he never did.
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'May 18 2004, 05:32 PM\'] I heard on the E THS, don't know how true it is [/quote]
Anyone see the irony in this statement? :)
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'May 18 2004, 05:32 PM\'] I heard on the E THS, don't know how true it is, but they mentioned that Richard was supposed to lose weight before the show began taping. He had told them he would. But they said he never did. [/quote]
And I suppose you heard this from your bowling buddy too, huh?
You just don't learn.
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