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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: adamkendall on June 15, 2004, 12:36:48 AM
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I attempted the taping for the episode of The Price Is Right that will air on Wednesday (06/16). Just FYI...it was the last episode taped of the 32nd season. This past Thurs. they taped the premiere of the 33rd season.
I wondered...do the contestant producers choose the 9 contestants and place them in the order in which they will be called...or does standards and practices randomly assemble the 9 contestants in order. If it is the former, the producers could theoretically help determine the overall outcome of the game.
Also, why do they not allow the studio audience to see the set up of the big wheel? Where is it brought on stage from? A curtain is pulled down that blocks the view to the wheel while it is being set up.
Also, does anybody know definitively how many minutes of actual program are in each TPIR hour? The show seems A LOT tighter and more rushed than in did in even the recent past.
Adam Kendall
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[quote name=\'adamkendall\' date=\'Jun 14 2004, 11:36 PM\'] Also, why do they not allow the studio audience to see the set up of the big wheel? Where is it brought on stage from? A curtain is pulled down that blocks the view to the wheel while it is being set up. [/quote]
The wheel comes in from the hallway next to the studio. They open up door #2 to get it to the center of the stage. If the curtain was up, the audience would be able to see through an open door #2 into the hallway, where upcoming prizes and pricing game props are stored. So they lower the curtain between almost every act to keep everything a surprise.
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[quote name=\'adamkendall\' date=\'Jun 14 2004, 11:36 PM\'] I attempted the taping for the episode of The Price Is Right that will air on Wednesday (06/16). Just FYI...it was the last episode taped of the 32nd season. This past Thurs. they taped the premiere of the 33rd season.
I wondered...do the contestant producers choose the 9 contestants and place them in the order in which they will be called...or does standards and practices randomly assemble the 9 contestants in order. If it is the former, the producers could theoretically help determine the overall outcome of the game.
Also, why do they not allow the studio audience to see the set up of the big wheel? Where is it brought on stage from? A curtain is pulled down that blocks the view to the wheel while it is being set up.
Also, does anybody know definitively how many minutes of actual program are in each TPIR hour? The show seems A LOT tighter and more rushed than in did in even the recent past.
Adam Kendall [/quote]
The show is 43-45 minutes. The director wil give Bob longer to get some padding so the editor can edit the show. Unediting--around 48-51 minutes.
Charles
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[quote name=\'adamkendall\' date=\'Jun 15 2004, 12:36 AM\'] I wondered...do the contestant producers choose the 9 contestants and place them in the order in which they will be called...or does standards and practices randomly assemble the 9 contestants in order. If it is the former, the producers could theoretically help determine the overall outcome of the game. [/quote]
I can tell you for certain that contestants are not chosen randomly.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Jun 15 2004, 04:42 PM\'] I can tell you for certain that contestants are not chosen randomly. [/quote]
But that isn't what he asked. Is the order in which they will be called to Come On Down randomized, or is that preselected as well?
(I think I know the answer, as we've pointed out here that on days when they run Race Game or what not, elderly contestants aren't usually called until after that game has been played, so they don't have a frail 92-year old slip and kill themselves trying to stick a pricetag on a Barcolounger...)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jun 15 2004, 08:05 PM\'][quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Jun 15 2004, 04:42 PM\'] I can tell you for certain that contestants are not chosen randomly. [/quote]
But that isn't what he asked. Is the order in which they will be called to Come On Down randomized, or is that preselected as well?
(I think I know the answer, as we've pointed out here that on days when they run Race Game or what not, elderly contestants aren't usually called until after that game has been played, so they don't have a frail 92-year old slip and kill themselves trying to stick a pricetag on a Barcolounger...)[/quote]
I should clarify...
The order in which they will be called to Come on Down is not randomized.
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Just to elaborate on the big wheel question, keep in mind that the wheel itself is rather heavy at best so it takes a few people to transport it on the stage. That's apparently why the set-up is hidden from view for reasons mentioned earlier.
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[quote name=\'MSTieScott\' date=\'Jun 15 2004, 07:10 PM\'] [quote name=\'adamkendall\' date=\'Jun 14 2004, 11:36 PM\'] Also, why do they not allow the studio audience to see the set up of the big wheel? Where is it brought on stage from? A curtain is pulled down that blocks the view to the wheel while it is being set up. [/quote]
The wheel comes in from the hallway next to the studio. They open up door #2 to get it to the center of the stage. If the curtain was up, the audience would be able to see through an open door #2 into the hallway, where upcoming prizes and pricing game props are stored. So they lower the curtain between almost every act to keep everything a surprise. [/quote]
But if they were so concerned about keeping which pricing games are played that day a suprise, they should get rid of the game list directly offstage.
You can see it from contestant's row.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Jun 16 2004, 03:15 AM\'] You can see it from contestant's row. [/quote]
Okay, that's four people. How about the rest of the theatre?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jun 16 2004, 08:29 AM\'] [quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Jun 16 2004, 03:15 AM\'] You can see it from contestant's row. [/quote]
Okay, that's four people. How about the rest of the theatre? [/quote]
Those four people are the ones on whom you need to count for a reaction when they make their way onstage. You can sweeten the reaction of the rest of the theatre, but you can't really do much when some smart-aleck trudges on stage dejectedly when he realizes he's consigned to play Poker Game.
This is, of course, assuming that the contestants know the games by name and have the capacity to concentrate on the list of games, in between constantly looking at the audience for guidance and then bidding $420 anyway.
More of a psychological experiment than a poll: Assuming you made it to contestant's row for the 5th One Bid, and you saw that Poker Game (or a game with equally cheesy prizes) was set to be played 5th, followed by Any Number (or any sort of car or cash game), would you purposely throw the One Bid, knowing that you had only one more chance to make it on stage?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jun 16 2004, 11:29 AM\'][quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Jun 16 2004, 03:15 AM\'] You can see it from contestant's row. [/quote]
Okay, that's four people. How about the rest of the theatre?[/quote]
You can see it from the section in front of Rich at least the first few rows. Same goes for the center section. Problem is you need good vision to see it. Not as easy as it seems.
I remember a time a few years ago when I was trying out as a contestant and I was leaning over to look at the list of games. One of the staff saw me looking and titled the game list so I couldn't see it anymore.
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[quote name=\'SplitSecond\' date=\'Jun 16 2004, 08:45 AM\'] but you can't really do much when some smart-aleck trudges on stage dejectedly when he realizes he's consigned to play Poker Game. [/quote]
That's bad contestant selection, though, if you picked that chump to Come On Down in the first place.
More of a psychological experiment than a poll: Assuming you made it to contestant's row for the 5th One Bid, and you saw that Poker Game (or a game with equally cheesy prizes) was set to be played 5th, followed by Any Number (or any sort of car or cash game), would you purposely throw the One Bid, knowing that you had only one more chance to make it on stage?
No way. I came with nothing, I would be appreciative of ANY prize they wanted to give me the chance to win, and I wanna play a game, even if it's Pick A Number or Joker. Moreover, the contestant coordinators have displayed a certain level of trust in me by selecting me to be on the show, and I would feel duty-bound to honor that by playing to the best of my ability at all times.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jun 16 2004, 12:02 PM\'] No way. I came with nothing, I would be appreciative of ANY prize they wanted to give me the chance to win, and I wanna play a game, even if it's Pick A Number or Joker. Moreover, the contestant coordinators have displayed a certain level of trust in me by selecting me to be on the show, and I would feel duty-bound to honor that by playing to the best of my ability at all times. [/quote]
Absolutely.
I was one of the first four and checked the slate during the opening of the show. Up first: Clock Game. Second: 3 Strikes. Gee, which do you think I would rather play? I bid appropriately and won the first IUFB. I got an electric guitar and a bureau chest playing Clock Game. The second contestant had a chance at a Lincoln Executive Towncar. Am I upset? Absolutely not.
And to answer your question -- to quote the staff: "We place the contestants in the order we feel that will be the strongest. We place the best contestants first."
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jun 16 2004, 11:02 AM\'] No way. I came with nothing, I would be appreciative of ANY prize they wanted to give me the chance to win, and I wanna play a game, even if it's Pick A Number or Joker. Moreover, the contestant coordinators have displayed a certain level of trust in me by selecting me to be on the show, and I would feel duty-bound to honor that by playing to the best of my ability at all times. [/quote]
Not to mention that you'd get to spin the wheel, and possibly make it in the showcase.
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(I think I know the answer, as we've pointed out here that on days when they run Race Game or what not, elderly contestants aren't usually called until after that game has been played, so they don't have a frail 92-year old slip and kill themselves trying to stick a pricetag on a Barcolounger...)
Not to mention the 2 wheelchair-bound contestants they had in the past 5 yrs...and I doubt you'd have wanted a visually-impaired contestant playing On the Nose, especially the darts version. :-)
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Jun 16 2004, 05:15 AM\'] But if they were so concerned about keeping which pricing games are played that day a suprise, they should get rid of the game list directly offstage.
You can see it from contestant's row. [/quote]
They're hiding the prizes, too. When there's a huge trailer in the hallway waiting to be offered in a showcase, you want a genuine reaction from the person seeing the trailer for the first time. Not to mention how seeing a prize that hasn't been offered yet can swing the decision to bid or pass.
It's not a big secret that a lot of games can be identified by the audience before they're played. Heck, pretty much anything behind the giant price tag can be seen from either of the back corners (Check-Out's name even blinks over the top of the tag!). But as was already stated, aside from "PLINKO GAME," most folks don't know what the words on the slate mean. And the folks who do should be loyal enough that they'll be excited no matter what happens.
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Scott Robinson
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[quote name=\'MSTieScott\' date=\'Jun 16 2004, 10:16 PM\'] [quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Jun 16 2004, 05:15 AM\'] But if they were so concerned about keeping which pricing games are played that day a suprise, they should get rid of the game list directly offstage.
You can see it from contestant's row. [/quote]
They're hiding the prizes, too. When there's a huge trailer in the hallway waiting to be offered in a showcase, you want a genuine reaction from the person seeing the trailer for the first time. Not to mention how seeing a prize that hasn't been offered yet can swing the decision to bid or pass.
It's not a big secret that a lot of games can be identified by the audience before they're played. Heck, pretty much anything behind the giant price tag can be seen from either of the back corners (Check-Out's name even blinks over the top of the tag!). But as was already stated, aside from "PLINKO GAME," most folks don't know what the words on the slate mean. And the folks who do should be loyal enough that they'll be excited no matter what happens.
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Scott Robinson [/quote]
Plus, if you are in the front 2 rows, you can see what they are doing that day on a slate, stage right, next to the table where the producers sit, before one of the flunkies turns it to the back.
Charles
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It's TPiR...The Holy Grail of game shows! What self-respecting game show geek WOULDN'T be excited to just be on stage playing...That covers us...
...and the rest of the world is either enough of a fan to be excited, or isn't enough of a fan, and is cluelessly excited.
...But we all know not to win IUFB #4. ^_^
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[quote name=\'ClockGameJohn\' date=\'Jun 16 2004, 11:28 AM\'] And to answer your question -- to quote the staff: "We place the contestants in the order we feel that will be the strongest. We place the best contestants first." [/quote]
Ya' know, I'd have honestly never guessed. While I was pretty sure the ordering was intentional, there have been enough episodes where the strongest contestant, or strongest contestants, were called late in the show that I would've guessed they're looking for other factors in determining the order. The most recent Million Dollar Spectacular is a perfect example, and I could name a bunch of other episodes too, though what's the point of listing dates that no one's going to remember ;)?
...OK, one: April 24, 2002. Both the 8th and 9th contestants were (or would have been) incredible, whereas most others, including a certain Ten Chances player, were not.
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[quote name=\'Frank15\' date=\'Jun 17 2004, 09:42 AM\'] While I was pretty sure the ordering was intentional, there have been enough episodes where the strongest contestant, or strongest contestants, were called late in the show that I would've guessed they're looking for other factors in determining the order. The most recent Million Dollar Spectacular is a perfect example, and I could name a bunch of other episodes too, though what's the point of listing dates that no one's going to remember ;)?
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I've wondered that myself, but one of our regular posters would be able to probably name several instances, right down to the date...
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[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Jun 17 2004, 08:45 AM\'] I've wondered that myself, but one of our regular posters would be able to probably name several instances, right down to the date... [/quote]
So could I ^.^. I just kinda' figured listing a bunch of seemingly random dates might be fairly dull for most of you all.
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[quote name=\'Frank15\' date=\'Jun 17 2004, 11:14 AM\'] So could I ^.^. I just kinda' figured listing a bunch of seemingly random dates might be fairly dull for most of you all. [/quote]
It would be. The fact that you actually care about what others want to read sets you apart from the other person, though. :-)
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[quote name=\'Frank15\' date=\'Jun 17 2004, 11:14 AM\'] So could I ^.^. I just kinda' figured listing a bunch of seemingly random dates might be fairly dull for most of you all. [/quote]
MOST of us, yes, but there are those select few who know who they are and who need to get out of the house more and experience life. :)
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would you purposely throw the One Bid, knowing that you had only one more chance to make it on stage?
I wouldn't purposely throw anything. There's no guarantee you could win the next IUFB, so you mayaswell take the chance while you've got it!
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Jun 21 2004, 10:32 AM\']
would you purposely throw the One Bid, knowing that you had only one more chance to make it on stage?
I wouldn't purposely throw anything. There's no guarantee you could win the next IUFB, so you mayaswell take the chance while you've got it! [/quote]
Abbatalootly!
Theoretically, if you throw just one IUFB, there is a chance that all of the remaining 1st bidders *could* guess the price exactly for the Bonus, and thus you would be locked out the rest of the game.
A more likely scenario is (if the camera is shooting out toward the audience) you are in the far right spot & the far left spot comes up with the winning bid or the person to your right are the ones with the winning bids, you will always be the last bid and, unless you one-up the highest bid, or bid one dollah, the odds are gonna be tougher.
I'd just try to nail the IUFB as best I can for each game...If you get up on stage at any time playing even the worst game, those prizes will be dwarfed if you land $11K on the big wheel and/or win the showcase(s).
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' date=\'Jun 21 2004, 12:11 PM\'] A more likely scenario is (if the camera is shooting out toward the audience) you are in the far right spot & the far left spot comes up with the winning bid or the person to your right are the ones with the winning bids, you will always be the last bid and, unless you one-up the highest bid, or bid one dollah, the odds are gonna be tougher. [/quote]
While I'd agree that intentionally blowing an item up for bids is not a smart move, that's just piss poor reasoning as to why it's a bad idea. Being the last bidder usually gives you an advantage that the other three bidders do not have: your odds of getting up on stage are better as the last bidder, not worse.
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There is a very narrow situation in which I would consider taking a dive. For all that you don't know when you're there, the one thing you do know is this: If you make the winning bid on the IUFB, you win it. If the prize were something I had absolutely zero interest in, and especially if it were early in the show, I'd consider making a ridiculous bid on it. (Oh, darn, someone else wins the exercise equipment.)
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Interesting topic.
*If* I was one of the first four called, and *if* the first game was something really crappy , and *if* I could see the board and the rest of the games were much more interesting or had something of particular interest, then I'd probably throw it.
Chances are, that you're not going to be in that position though.
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[quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Jun 23 2004, 12:23 AM\'] Interesting topic.
*If* I was one of the first four called, and *if* the first game was something really crappy , and *if* I could see the board and the rest of the games were much more interesting or had something of particular interest, then I'd probably throw it.
Chances are, that you're not going to be in that position though. [/quote]
Hello, ClockGameJohn? Are you here? Someone's callin' ya' ;).
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A friend of mine, George Fletcher, who was a contestant about 2 years ago was in a similar situation.
He was one of the first 4 called down (can't remember if he was the first though).
He knew enough to see the list of games and that his favorite game 10 chances would be played. I don't recall if it was the first or 2nd game played, but he was going to play it, if he hadn't been beat by the last bidder.
And I'm sure he played his strategy well to try to play his favorite game.
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[quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Jun 23 2004, 01:23 AM\'] Interesting topic.
*If* I was one of the first four called, and *if* the first game was something really crappy , and *if* I could see the board and the rest of the games were much more interesting or had something of particular interest, then I'd probably throw it.
Chances are, that you're not going to be in that position though. [/quote]
Well, I was Contestant #3. The first and second contestants lined up in the most intelligent order possible (Contestant 1 got the final bid) and so I was in the blue and would be bidding second.
I saw the slate: (Which I thought was a great lineup for the day)
CLOCK GAME
THREE STRIKES
CLIFF HANGERS
CLEARANCE SALE
GROCERY GAME
ONE AWAY
IUFB 1: Washer Dryer. Did I know the price? Pretty damn close to it so I lowballed it just a bit. I won the IUFB (due to poor bidding strategy on the other contestants, and that alone) and was on stage first. Did I want to play 3 Strikes? Hell yes. Could I win Cliff Hangers or Grocery Game? Without a doubt and probably perfectly. Did I care? Absolutely not.
If I had thrown the first IUFB, attempting to "lock myself" into another bidding round, what if Contestant #1 (last bidder) had won the first IUFB? This would have left Contestant #2 with the last bid on the next round. I would have been the 3rd bidder. Most likely, I would have been $1 upped. Then that's another round of bidding that I'm out on. That could have easily continued for the next 4 rounds of bidding and guess what? I'M DONE. First four contestant and never to be on stage....not ever, ever again in my life.
You want to throw it - go for it. To be honest, if that's how you'd want to play - I don't think I'd be rooting for you too much. It's not about the greed, it's about the experience, at least for me. I was honored to be given the opportunity.
The odds of me getting picked, winning the Showcase Showdown, and making it as the Top Winner in the Showcase were unbelievable at the beginning of the day. Looking back at how it all ended up, I've never had a better day in my life.
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[quote name=\'Frank15\' date=\'Jun 23 2004, 03:36 AM\'] Hello, ClockGameJohn? Are you here? Someone's callin' ya' ;). [/quote]
Clock Game? Ha, that's one of the more interesting games to me. I would never try and avoid Clock Game. It's a game of skill, you get to interact with Bob, etc. Yeah, the prizes may not be as high as other games, but that's totally irrelevant. It's not about the cash, it's the experience.
To throw it, it would have to be one of the worst games, something totally mindless, no chance to use any skill to win, etc.
Like tonight. Pick a Number for a $92x0 something piano. Is the third digit 1, 4, or 7?
Pure luck, no skill, and absolutely boring as hell. "Gee Bob, I shop for piano's all the time, they're never as low as $9,240. They're always at least $9,270."
Why does this game even exist? At least with Double Prices or One Right Price I can use some skill and common sense.
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[quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Jun 24 2004, 06:29 AM\']Like tonight. Pick a Number for a $92x0 something piano. Is the third digit 1, 4, or 7?
Pure luck, no skill, and absolutely boring as hell. "Gee Bob, I shop for piano's all the time, they're never as low as $9,240. They're always at least $9,270."
Why does this game even exist? At least with Double Prices or One Right Price I can use some skill and common sense.[/quote]
So they don't have to do Double Prices or One Right Price every time--and also, I suspect, to make sure they don't go over budget. :)
Those of us from the early days remember when there was just Double Prices, Clock Game and Most Expensive in the quickie game mix--some of you would probably shudder at the thought of seeing Double Prices twice a week.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Jun 24 2004, 01:40 PM\'] some of you would probably shudder at the thought of seeing Double Prices twice a week. [/quote]
I remember those days. At least with DP, tho, you have a couple grand of leeway (usually) to work with. That game of Pick A Number asked the contestant to correctly price the prize within a window of $60. Range Game isn't even that idiotic.