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The Game Show Forum => The Big Board => Topic started by: adamjk on August 18, 2004, 06:22:58 PM
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From Tvgameshows.net:
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There you have it? What are your thoughts? Personally, I think it would have been better to bring back the biggest winners, ala Jeopardy's TOC.
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How many times do we have to say "don't quote stories in full" before people get it?
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I thought this was okay, it was quite short.
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 06:45 PM\'] I thought this was okay, it was quite short. [/quote]
You could have summarized it very easily, or quoted one or two lines -- especially since you did correctly cite your source, and anyone who wanted to read the whole thing could have found it easily.
As with the rumors and such, we're just trying to keep the board from becoming the target of legal action.
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Understood
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Aug 18 2004, 05:50 PM\'] Understood [/quote]
I doubt that.
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Ok, well getting back to the original topic, what Street Smarts is doing this season, is they are gonna invite back each person who wins a game, a chance to risk their earnings for a shot at $100,000 in a tourney at the end of the year. If a excessive number of people choose to risk their money for a $100,000 chance, then they will go by the highest scorers. That's it in a nutshell. Thoughts?
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Since I don't watch the show on anything approaching a regular basis, can someone give me an idea what the average take for a winning contestant is?
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$2,000-$3,000 sometimes a bit less.
top prize possible is $4,600 for a perfect game.
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Oy... $100K for a show like "Street Smarts" is WAY TOO MUCH. If Frank Nicotero were to do a show that gave away this much, "$ale of the Century" would've been a better fit for him. Something like $5,000 or $10,000 would work better for this type of show.
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I get the feeling that the producers of the show realize that this may be the end of Street Smarts, and if it is to be so, then they want the show to go out in a blaze of glory.
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[quote name=\'gshowguy\' date=\'Aug 19 2004, 01:38 PM\'] Oy... $100K for a show like "Street Smarts" is WAY TOO MUCH. If Frank Nicotero were to do a show that gave away this much, "$ale of the Century" would've been a better fit for him. Something like $5,000 or $10,000 would work better for this type of show. [/quote]
It's a once a season tournament. I think $100,000 is a bit much for the tournament ($50,000 would be fine, IMHO). Then again, I don't know the show's budget or how much income it has generated in previous seasons.
$5000 or $10,000 for this tournament? And I thought GSN was going cheap by re-airing 5 year old reruns of Hollywood Showdown and The All New 3's a Crowd. At least Randy gets more visibility and the all-important residuals from it. :-)
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Thank you, Adam.
That said, Matt's right. Give up $2000 for a shot at $100K? Hells yes.
Give up $2000 for a shot at $50K? Maybe. And "maybe" is the answer you want here.
(Give up $2000 for a shot at $5K? $10K? Good lord. Read the thread before you post something like that.)
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Aug 19 2004, 12:38 PM\'] $2,000-$3,000 sometimes a bit less.
top prize possible is $4,600 for a perfect game. [/quote]
And from what I've seen, it's rare to even get $2,000.
I'd say $1,000-1,500 on average. With those stakes, $50,000 would be just fine.
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[quote name=\'adamjk\' date=\'Aug 19 2004, 12:41 PM\'] I get the feeling that the producers of the show realize that this may be the end of Street Smarts, and if it is to be so, then they want the show to go out in a blaze of glory. [/quote]
And what gives you that impression? The ratings are just as mediocre as they always are, aren't they?
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Well, it's either that, or they are doing this out of desparation, so that it won't be cancelled after this season. But one other reason I think it's to be the end, is because they are only doing 130 shows this season.
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This is a brilliant way to add a $100,000 tournament with minimal impact on the overall budget. I wager that 50 to 75 of the regular season winners will give up their winnings. Factor in 10 or 15 tournament shows where the contestants will likely be playing for points only, plus the savings associated with the episodes they won't be doing this season, and voila! - instant sweeps stunt.
But one other reason I think it's to be the end, is because they are only doing 130 shows this season.
The only sure sign of the end would be if they were doing 0 shows this season.
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The rumor I heard is that it will be a 32-player tournament, single eliminiation over 15 shows. If more than 32 players take the option, the top 32 money winners will play in the tournament and the remainder will get their prize money.
So, 31 players winning an average of $2,000 would be $62,000. This format will cost them a little more.
--Mike
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Aug 20 2004, 07:21 AM\'] The rumor I heard is that it will be a 32-player tournament, single eliminiation over 15 shows. [/quote]
Last I saw, SS was a two-player game. No reason it couldn't BE more, I don't suppose, but in order to knock 32 players down to 1 in 15 shows, you would need to do something like playing groups of 4 for the first round, advancing a single winner out of each group, which would then knock 32 down to 8 in 8 shows, leaving you seven more to knock out the rest.
(And honestly, I can't believe I'm having this conversation. Being a grand champion of Jeopardy says something about you. This is the Grand Championship Of Looking At Stupid People And Deciding If They Can Answer Even Stupider Questions. With apologies to Brandon Brooks and any other big winners in our midst, this is up there with being named Champion Of Looking At Celebrities And Deciding Whether They Are Lying Or Telling The Truth.)
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[quote name=\'mmb5\' date=\'Aug 20 2004, 07:21 AM\'] The rumor I heard is that it will be a 32-player tournament, single eliminiation over 15 shows. If more than 32 players take the option, the top 32 money winners will play in the tournament and the remainder will get their prize money.
So, 31 players winning an average of $2,000 would be $62,000. This format will cost them a little more. [/quote]
One would have to assume that the 15 shows of the tournament would be played for points only, aside from the grand prize, so using your $2,000 assumption would add another $30,000. The other assumption would be that the ultimate winner does not get his/her stake back - winning a flat $100,000 - so we bump the kitty up to $94,000. Factor in similar savings from prize budget alone for the episodes they're not doing this season, and we're well over $100,000, certainly with room for even a $5,000 or $10,000 consolation for the runner-up.
It may cost them more on a per-episode basis, but the overall effect is that they're getting a slightly shorter season with a big (some argue TOO big) sweeps stunt with the same prize budget, if not a lower one, and lower production costs associated with shooting (and shooting material for) fewer episodes.