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Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: TheInquisitiveOne on December 30, 2004, 10:37:15 PM
Hello everyone!

I'll keep it simple. There are/were game shows where the worst possible scenario can (and possibly did) happen. For example, triple shutout situations on both Press Your Luck and Jeopardy! happened.

Has any of these happened before?

TPiR: All six pricing games lost PLUS a double-overbid in the showcase

Pyramid: None right at the Winner's Circle

That's about all I can muster up at this point. If anybody has any others, please add on to the list.

Thanks in advance to your responses!

The Inquisitive One
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Don Howard on December 30, 2004, 10:39:18 PM
[quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 10:37 PM\']Pyramid: None right at the Winner's Circle
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Yes. This happened at least once that I remember. I don't recall the air date, tape date, contestant or celebrity involved. But never fear. Zach will be here soon.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: SRIV94 on December 30, 2004, 10:46:25 PM
[quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 09:37 PM\']That's about all I can muster up at this point. If anybody has any others, please add on to the list.
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Well, there were (at least) two GONG SHOWs where nobody won:

1.  The 3/18/77 episode, with Arte Johnson, Jaye P. Morgan and Steve Martin on the panel (Martin trotted out his banjo twice before being rebuffed by Chuckie).

2.  The 7/18/78 episode, with Carl Ballentine, Patty Andrews and Jamie Farr on the panel (every act either got gonged or had been invited back, as it was the last NBC daytime week).  Real funny episode (the McKenzie effects went overboard [stark contrast to the Steve Martin weeks, where the effects were more subdued]).

Doug -- and the countdown to 900 continues
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: PYLdude on December 30, 2004, 10:51:08 PM
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Yes. This happened at least once that I remember. I don't recall the air date, tape date, contestant or celebrity involved. But never fear. Zach will be here soon.

I found a clip of this. It aired on The $25,000 Pyramid. 4/25/86, and the celebrity was Tom Poston.

They wouldn't have won the big money anyway, because they got buzzed for an illegal clue on the fourth subject.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: JayC on December 30, 2004, 10:55:24 PM
[quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 10:37 PM\']TPiR: All six pricing games lost PLUS a double-overbid in the showcase[/quote]
This happened once last season, but I'd have to look at GR.net's show recaps to find the date.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: zachhoran on December 30, 2004, 10:58:11 PM
[quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 10:37 PM\']
I'll keep it simple. There are/were game shows where the worst possible scenario can (and possibly did) happen. For example, triple shutout situations on both Press Your Luck and Jeopardy! happened.


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The worst case sceanrio on PYL would be all three players getting four whammies. If that were to happen, which it never did, there'd be three new players on the next show. There were a handful of shows where 11 whammies were gotten.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: clemon79 on December 30, 2004, 11:14:33 PM
[quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 08:37 PM\']That's about all I can muster up at this point. If anybody has any others, please add on to the list.
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Can I just ask what the hell is UP with this sudden glut of tailor-made-for-Horan topics? Is he paying you or something?
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Robert Hutchinson on December 30, 2004, 11:22:46 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 10:39 PM\'][quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 10:37 PM\']Pyramid: None right at the Winner's Circle[/quote]
Yes. This happened at least once that I remember. I don't recall the air date, tape date, contestant or celebrity involved. But never fear. Zach will be here soon.[/quote]

It's happened at least twice: Once in the '80s, and again on Donny's Pyramid (which I recall because I saw it just a couple of weeks ago).

Here's the '80s clip (http://\"http://www.xanfan.com/video/index.htm\") (halfway down, look for Tom Poston)
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: SplitSecond on December 30, 2004, 11:41:29 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 09:14 PM\']Can I just ask what the hell is UP with this sudden glut of tailor-made-for-Horan topics? Is he paying you or something?
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Boy, I bet you'll be glad when we get that new version of the board software with the Ignore User feature.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: clemon79 on December 30, 2004, 11:42:53 PM
[quote name=\'SplitSecond\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 09:41 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 09:14 PM\']Can I just ask what the hell is UP with this sudden glut of tailor-made-for-Horan topics? Is he paying you or something?
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Boy, I bet you'll be glad when we get that new version of the board software with the Ignore User feature.
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I'll be glad if we get one that actually DOES ignore the user instead of replacing their posts with those idiotic placeholders.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: SplitSecond on December 30, 2004, 11:45:54 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 09:42 PM\']I'll be glad if we get one that actually DOES ignore the user instead of replacing their posts with those idiotic placeholders.
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So how come you get so riled when all you're seeing is these idiotic placeholders?
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Kevin Prather on December 31, 2004, 12:11:28 AM
It's simple, really. He wants to ignore the person, but when he's given the chance to unignore them for a second, the curiosity is too much for him.

Or perhaps Chris would like to speak on his own behalf.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: parliboy on December 31, 2004, 12:37:13 AM
Main Entry: in·quis·i·tive
Pronunciation: in-'kwi-z&-tiv
Function: adjective
1 : given to examination or investigation
2 : inclined to ask questions; especially : inordinately or improperly curious about the affairs of others

The OP's handle subscribes to the second definition quite well.  So I won't fault him on truth in advertising.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: clemon79 on December 31, 2004, 01:09:37 AM
[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 10:11 PM\']It's simple, really. He wants to ignore the person, but when he's given the chance to unignore them for a second, the curiosity is too much for him.

Or perhaps Chris would like to speak on his own behalf.
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Naw, you're more or less right. You see the placeholder, you go "oh god, what crap is being spewed THIS time", and you click. I don't even wanna know they SPOKE unless someone else quotes them and I have to.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Kevin Prather on December 31, 2004, 01:23:43 AM
Chris, I hate to sound like my mother, but beggars cannot be choosers.

We've practically begged for quite some time for a killfile. Now that it's here, it's not very fair to say that it's not good enough. True it's not perfect. Hell, it's not even that good. But it's all we have, so we've got to learn to love it until something better comes along.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on December 31, 2004, 01:25:12 AM
[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Dec 31 2004, 01:23 AM\']We've practically begged for quite some time for a killfile. Now that it's here, it's not very fair to say that it's not good enough. [/quote]
If I was paying for a service, and I was not satisfied with the end product; I would be complaining.  The "Ignore User" feature is a failure.

Worst case scenario?  A contestant loses her top on national TV, and exposes her clevage to all. Oh wait.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: BrandonFG on December 31, 2004, 02:16:43 AM
[quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 10:37 PM\']Pyramid: None right at the Winner's Circle
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Two last season. One came when the contestant elected to give. The other was with Flex, from "One on One."
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: parliboy on December 31, 2004, 02:57:26 AM
[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Dec 31 2004, 01:25 AM\']If I was paying for a service, and I was not satisfied with the end product; I would be complaining.  The "Ignore User" feature is a failure.
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Oh, absolutely.  That said, we're not paying for the service.  Certain of the mods are.  If you want to... "suggest" ideas to Invision, I doubt anyone here's going to object, assuming it's done constructively (repeat to the more caustic members of the board: constructively).  But we're not the ones ponying up for this particular service.

Were I a mod, my response to a continued complaint about this would degenerate into commentary of the "start your own board" variety.

Cripes, that means Zinkin is more tolerant than me.  How times have changed.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: clemon79 on December 31, 2004, 03:46:38 AM
[quote name=\'parliboy\' date=\'Dec 31 2004, 12:57 AM\'] If you want to... "suggest" ideas to Invision, I doubt anyone here's going to object, assuming it's done constructively (repeat to the more caustic members of the board: constructively).  But we're not the ones ponying up for this particular service.
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Tried that. Turns out, as a non-paying customer, I don't have access to the appropriate forums to make said requests. My requests to our moderators to pass along my suggestions to those in a position to respond to them were ignored. I doubt this was malicious, something else prolly was on their minds at the time, but, nonetheless, I needed their help (and this was BZ, or Before Zinkin, mind you), and got stonewalled.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: bandit_bobby on December 31, 2004, 07:48:47 AM
When no one wins the $50,000 on Fear Factor. This happened for the first time EVER earlier this season with the "Best Friends" show.

When a DOUBLE ZERO tie occurs on Street Smarts. This does happen from time to time.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Steve Gavazzi on December 31, 2004, 10:52:42 AM
I know this never happened, and I know they'd never have let this happen...but it would have been interesting to see two contestants stuck at 0-0 for a whole week of syndie Match Game.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: TV Favorites on December 31, 2004, 11:01:26 AM
I have a clip from Osmond's Pyramid with one of the winless winner circle rounds.  Please pardon its quality.

http://www.gameshowfavorites.com/videovault/ (http://\"http://www.gameshowfavorites.com/videovault/\")
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: starcade on December 31, 2004, 12:52:00 PM
Obviously, to add to this list would be:

No positive scores at the end of Double Jeopardy (don't think that has happened, a couple of solo runs "against the house" have, though)...

Have to wonder, for our Mexican friends:

Since "Rapido Dinero" appears to be much more difficult than the American counterpart, any total zeroes on the bonus game in Cien Mexicanos Dijeron?
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: BrandonFG on December 31, 2004, 01:23:09 PM
All zeroes in Fast Money, from BOTH team members.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: CJBojangles on December 31, 2004, 05:46:37 PM
[quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 10:37 PM\']Pyramid: None right at the Winner's Circle
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This also happened once on the Osmond version, as I saw it recently shown on PAX. I can't remember whether it was Season 1 or 2.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: zachhoran on December 31, 2004, 07:14:36 PM
[quote name=\'CJBojangles\' date=\'Dec 31 2004, 05:46 PM\']
This also happened once on the Osmond version, as I saw it recently shown on PAX. I can't remember whether it was Season 1 or 2.
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PAX is currently rerunning season one, pre-scoreboards on podiums
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: pyl85 on December 31, 2004, 08:17:21 PM
How about taking all 60 seconds of the Double Dare obstacle course to find the first flag (pilot not included). I think I remember an episode where it took an obscene amount of time to get the flag from that hourglass thing with the orange balls.

-Greg
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Robert Hutchinson on December 31, 2004, 09:09:19 PM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 31 2004, 07:14 PM\']PAX is currently rerunning season one, pre-scoreboards on podiums[/quote]
PAX (or at least my local affiliate) is also currently rerunning season two in a different time slot, Zach.

And I could swear someone already said that it happened on Osmond Pyramid. =P

(Seriously, that makes at least twice on Jump Cut Theatre.)
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Robert Hutchinson on December 31, 2004, 09:10:59 PM
[quote name=\'pyl85\' date=\'Dec 31 2004, 08:17 PM\']How about taking all 60 seconds of the Double Dare obstacle course to find the first flag (pilot not included). I think I remember an episode where it took an obscene amount of time to get the flag from that hourglass thing with the orange balls.[/quote]

Just to prove that I watched Double Dare for its intellectual benefits, did a team ever get shut out in the main game on any version?
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: TheInquisitiveOne on December 31, 2004, 09:47:32 PM
[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Dec 31 2004, 09:10 PM\'][quote name=\'pyl85\' date=\'Dec 31 2004, 08:17 PM\']How about taking all 60 seconds of the Double Dare obstacle course to find the first flag (pilot not included). I think I remember an episode where it took an obscene amount of time to get the flag from that hourglass thing with the orange balls.[/quote]

Just to prove that I watched Double Dare for its intellectual benefits, did a team ever get shut out in the main game on any version?
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If I am not mistaken, I have heard that a family was shut out in a 1991 episode of Family Double Dare $925-$0.

The Inquisitive One
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Fedya on January 01, 2005, 11:14:13 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 31 2004, 12:42 AM\'][quote name=\'SplitSecond\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 09:41 PM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 09:14 PM\']Can I just ask what the hell is UP with this sudden glut of tailor-made-for-Horan topics? Is he paying you or something?
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I'll be glad if we get one that actually DOES ignore the user instead of replacing their posts with those idiotic placeholders.
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All it takes is a little bit of maturity on the part of those with names in their Ignore lists.  The thing here works the same way as on other fora I frequent, and I've never had any problems with there being placeholders.

Your post seems to be your usual complaining just to complain, and not much different from what you whinge about Zach's doing.  :-)
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Ian Wallis on January 02, 2005, 12:44:25 PM
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When no one wins the $50,000 on Fear Factor. This happened for the first time EVER earlier this season with the "Best Friends" show.


That's because most of the time they have a stunt where "whoever gets the most", or "whoever stays on the longest" wins.  That particular show had a stunt which actually had to be completed in a certain manner, and nobody did.  However, earlier in the show two cars were given away, so it wasn't exactly a worst-case senario.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Ian Wallis on January 02, 2005, 12:48:21 PM
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I know this never happened, and I know they'd never have let this happen...but it would have been interesting to see two contestants stuck at 0-0 for a whole week of syndie Match Game.


You're right that it didn't happen, but a senario close to that happened on the CBS "Match Game".  I believe it was 1978, and they had two contestants who played to a fourth tie-breaker.  In fact, it could have been five tiebreakers because the final score ended 4-2, and the contestant who got 2 could have got 4 if they had said another answer.  All 4 celebrities they didn't match said that other answer, which was probably more definitive.  Gene was incredibly surprised it had even gotten to 4 tiebreakers!
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: uncamark on January 02, 2005, 04:50:28 PM
[quote name=\'pyl85\' date=\'Dec 31 2004, 08:17 PM\']How about taking all 60 seconds of the Double Dare obstacle course to find the first flag (pilot not included). I think I remember an episode where it took an obscene amount of time to get the flag from that hourglass thing with the orange balls.
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Probably why, AFAIK, they never had Blue Plate Special as the first obstacle.  Kids could and did spend an inordinate amount of time trying to find the flag in the huge pizza slice or peanut-butter-and-jelly sandwich.

If it did happen, I could see Summers going beserk and probably telling the kid to go on to the next obstacle anyway--but if it did happen...

[BZZZT!]

SUMMERS:  Ohhhhh, you couldn't find the flag and your 60 seconds are up!  Harvey, what did they win?

HARVEY:  Marc, they didn't win a thing!  And since we're a cheap cable show, we save money!

(Staff appears behind Summers and kids celebrating.)

SUMMERS:  Are we getting paid more, Harvey?

HARVEY:  No, Marc!

SUMMERS:  Well, you may see a new host next time, or maybe not, since they air these things out of order, but watch us next time on "Double Dare" here on Nickelodeon anyway!  So long!

[Applause and theme]

HARVEY:  This is your announcer Harvey, going to the boss for a raise--who are they going to replace me with, some kid named Tiffany?  Join us next time for more sloppy fun--see ya!
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Jay Temple on January 03, 2005, 01:15:59 AM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 09:58 PM\'][quote name=\'TheInquisitiveOne\' date=\'Dec 30 2004, 10:37 PM\']
I'll keep it simple. There are/were game shows where the worst possible scenario can (and possibly did) happen. For example, triple shutout situations on both Press Your Luck and Jeopardy! happened.


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The worst case sceanrio on PYL would be all three players getting four whammies. If that were to happen, which it never did, there'd be three new players on the next show. There were a handful of shows where 11 whammies were gotten.
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I don't recall seeing any of those.  They didn't just declare the remaining player the winner, then?
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on January 03, 2005, 01:29:47 AM
[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' date=\'Jan 3 2005, 01:15 AM\']I don't recall seeing any of those.  They didn't just declare the remaining player the winner, then?
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The remaining player got to "play the house"....they could keep going until they wished to stop; ran out of spins; or hit the 4th whammy.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: garfybrewer on January 07, 2005, 07:02:49 PM
[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Jan 2 2005, 10:29 PM\'][quote name=\'Jay Temple\' date=\'Jan 3 2005, 01:15 AM\']I don't recall seeing any of those.  They didn't just declare the remaining player the winner, then?
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The remaining player got to "play the house"....they could keep going until they wished to stop; ran out of spins; or hit the 4th whammy.
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In all the years I had seen Win Ben Stein's Money, has there ever been a player bomb out in the Best-of-10 Knowledge Test (in other words, get none right)?
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Kevin Prather on January 07, 2005, 07:12:44 PM
It happened at least once. I remember it happening in the Nancy Pimental era. Nobody made a really big deal over it, IIRC.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: zachhoran on January 07, 2005, 07:27:21 PM
[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Jan 7 2005, 07:12 PM\']It happened at least once. I remember it happening in the Nancy Pimental era. Nobody made a really big deal over it, IIRC.
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A zero-for-ten also happened on one of the Kimmel era shows on GSN.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Ian Wallis on January 08, 2005, 03:33:27 PM
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Another worse case senario for any gameshow would be when the power is out.

For example the Price Is Right had a power outage as seen on tpir.tv in a picture.

How about an earthquake?  There were several earthquakes that reportedly took place during tapings of the original "Hollywood Squares".  TVGuide even recounts one in an article I believe from 1975.  The stars on the bottom teir that show were happy they were on the bottom so that it would be an easier escape!
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Kevin Prather on January 08, 2005, 03:45:26 PM
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Another worse case senario for any gameshow would be when the power is out.

For example the Price Is Right had a power outage as seen on tpir.tv in a picture.

How about an earthquake?  There were several earthquakes that reportedly took place during tapings of the original "Hollywood Squares".  TVGuide even recounts one in an article I believe from 1975.  The stars on the bottom teir that show were happy they were on the bottom so that it would be an easier escape!
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Yeesh. In an earthquake, I sure wouldn't want to be underneath two scaffoldings!

Although I see your point. It would be an easier getaway.
Title: Worst Case Scenarios
Post by: Jay Temple on January 11, 2005, 12:17:07 AM
Reminds me of a comedy routine I heard where they were introducing the celebs on H2, and they were all fat celebs.  As they got to the end, you heard the scaffolding start to give way ...