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Why, in 30 years of WOF, have they never put a used letter board on the botton of the TV screen. I know in the beginning it wasn't possible, but with the different fonts and technology, I think it would work.
They might have to take the damn SPIN ID promo out, oh well, to make room for it.
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[quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 04:06 PM\']Why, in 30 years of WOF, have they never put a used letter board on the botton of the TV screen. I know in the beginning it wasn't possible, but with the different fonts and technology, I think it would work.
They might have to take the damn SPIN ID promo out, oh well, to make room for it.
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It would be nicer than the damn annoying pop for No More Vowels.
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[quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 02:06 PM\']Why, in 30 years of WOF, have they never put a used letter board on the botton of the TV screen. I know in the beginning it wasn't possible, but with the different fonts and technology, I think it would work.
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Because for the 99% of WOF watchers who are NOT game-show geeks, it simply isn't interesting information, and would only serve to confuse people., and distract them from the show itself.
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I'll be the first to admit that I'm not a regularly Wheel watcher... The show just seems to move way too slowly for me. Actually I get more frustrated with the way people seem to buy vowels at the most inane times. :) But I happened to see it most recently over Thanksgiving while visiting relatives who are absolutely hooked on it and I was very surprised with how much time is spent either 1) playing a toss-up puzzle or 2) showing a graphic of some sort. I mean do they really need a graphic for the final spin?? Also when did they decide to add $1000 to the value of the final spin? (And why?)
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I admit the graphics being a little much, but there is at least some sense behind the whole final spin thing. It began to be really anticlimatic with all the money they were throwing around when final spins came up $300 or whatever. So, by adding $1,000 - it gave some players a chance at least. You may disagree, and rightfully so that it's too much of a chance...but hey. Not nearly as useless as that $1,000 toss-up.
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Also, in response to that first query about $1K being added to the final spin, they started doing it early in the 99-00 season.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 04:45 PM\'][quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 02:06 PM\']Why, in 30 years of WOF, have they never put a used letter board on the botton of the TV screen. I know in the beginning it wasn't possible, but with the different fonts and technology, I think it would work.
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Because for the 99% of WOF watchers who are NOT game-show geeks, it simply isn't interesting information, and would only serve to confuse people., and distract them from the show itself.
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Because for the 99% of WOF watchers who are stupider than dirt (like many of the contestants)... This is not a show to watch for great gameplay in any real sense.
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 06:42 PM\']Also, in response to that first query about $1K being added to the final spin, they started doing it early in the 99-00 season.
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Not only that, IIRC, that was the same year the lowest dollar value on the wheel went from $250 to $300 because I heard Pat & Vanna mentioned in its first week that something was missing on the wheel that year(the $250 space) & they asked the viewing audience to pay close attention to what's on the wheel to figure out what's not there anymore.
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I'd just be happy if they would show the puzzle more often. It always seems like they are going back to shots of the contestants way too often.
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[quote name=\'starcade\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 07:54 PM\']Because for the 99% of WOF watchers who are stupider than dirt (like many of the contestants)... This is not a show to watch for great gameplay in any real sense.
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You are hardly one to call people out for being "stupid".
How's that TV production degree coming along?
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[quote name=\'starcade\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 07:54 PM\']Because for the 99% of WOF watchers who are stupider than dirt (like many of the contestants)... This is not a show to watch for great gameplay in any real sense.
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There are very occasionally well played episodes of WOF, the John Holder episode from last month comes to mind.
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 06:05 AM\']You are hardly one to call people out for being "stupid".
How's that TV production degree coming along?
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Dude, what the hell was THAT all about.
Let it be known that the vast majority of this Forum's more pessimistic voices do not condone this man's actions.
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[quote name=\'JasonA1\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 06:34 PM\']Not nearly as useless as that $1,000 toss-up.
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But that's for the right to be interviewed by Pat Sajak first! Why would you take that away from them? WHY??? :)
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 12:21 PM\'][quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 06:05 AM\']You are hardly one to call people out for being "stupid".
How's that TV production degree coming along?
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Dude, what the hell was THAT all about.
Let it be known that the vast majority of this Forum's more pessimistic voices do not condone this man's actions.
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Are you sure about that???
I would think the Forum's more pessimistic voices probably see me as the Herb Stempel of this group -- BEFORE Congress got involved.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 04:45 PM\'][quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 02:06 PM\']Why, in 30 years of WOF, have they never put a used letter board on the botton of the TV screen. I know in the beginning it wasn't possible, but with the different fonts and technology, I think it would work.
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Because for the 99% of WOF watchers who are NOT game-show geeks, it simply isn't interesting information, and would only serve to confuse people., and distract them from the show itself.
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On the other hand, I recall the one time I saw "Definitions" when I was on vacation in Canada in the mid-80s that it had an unused-letter board above or below the puzzle (I can't remember which).
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For Definition, the unused letter board was important because there was a lot of strategy in picking letters that aren't in the puzzle versus ones that were...two at a time instead of one.
On a separate thought: I find myself watching Wheel much more often than I used to - almost appointment television. I think I like all the changes that have been going on lately. Just a thought.
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[quote name=\'mitchgroff\' date=\'Jan 20 2005, 09:30 AM\']I find myself watching Wheel much more often than I used to - almost appointment television. I think I like all the changes that have been going on lately.
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At my home this season, there are 1.5 million good reasons to watch.
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Mitch, it's interesting you mention Wheel being appointment television... I actually don't really make an effort to watch it - Wheel is a show that is trying to age well but it seems to be doing the opposite - they feel the need to tweak every little thing.
Now don't get me wrong, I think the tossups are fun, but something like the extra graphics ("No more vowels!" "Final spin!" "Toss up!" "Vanna touches 10,000,000th letter") are a bit much.
Then again, I'm still annoyed there's no returning champion so there you go. And as always, YMMV.
Ryan :)
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Are you serious that there's a "No More Vowels" graphic? Yipes.
The possible defense I could think of for the graphics is if they help distract the viewers from what would otherwise be a jump cut with some continuity problems.
Yeah, I agree though that the institution of Wheel is not aging gracefully, but it's not as bad as "XLN: eXtreme Letters and Numbers! The All New COUNTDOWN!" :-p
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Well, the No More Vowels graphic isn't like the Final Spin graphic. No More Vowels pops up above the category name at the bottom of the screen. Curiously, they got rid of the traditional sound effect, and replaced it with something much duller, in my opinion.
It seems like it follows the trend of network television in general. You can't go 3 minutes now without a graphic popping up telling you 1) what you are currently watching, 2) what's on next, or 3) telling you what will be on next week... I'm waiting for the day when the entire show is split screened with ads in the other half...
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Well, the No More Vowels graphic isn't like the Final Spin graphic. No More Vowels pops up above the category name at the bottom of the screen. Curiously, they got rid of the traditional sound effect, and replaced it with something much duller, in my opinion.
Huh? Up until this season, there was never a sound effect when the last vowel to appear in a puzzle was bought (which was introduced concurrently w/the NMV graphic), just Pat saying something to the effect of "That's it for the vowels, you gotta spin or solve". Or are you confusing that w/the "only vowels left" chimes?
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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The "Only vowels left" sounder is still around since its inception. It used to 8 long(.2 sec each) beeps, now it's only a lower piched set of 5 short blips which I don't mind. The "No more vowels" yellow graphic was added earlier this season which uses a carrtoony sound effect that was reversed when the graphic "poped down".
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[quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 08:05 AM\'][quote name=\'starcade\' date=\'Jan 18 2005, 07:54 PM\']Because for the 99% of WOF watchers who are stupider than dirt (like many of the contestants)... This is not a show to watch for great gameplay in any real sense.
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You are hardly one to call people out for being "stupid".
How's that TV production degree coming along?
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And this pissing contest is related to the topic how????
IIRC, I was asking about a used letter board, not somebody's degree or a flame war.
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[quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Jan 21 2005, 01:22 PM\'][quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 08:05 AM\']
You are hardly one to call people out for being "stupid".
How's that TV production degree coming along?
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And this pissing contest is related to the topic how????
IIRC, I was asking about a used letter board, not somebody's degree or a flame war.
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Pissing contests, if you want to call them that, are something the regulars have gotten used to over the years on ATGS and here. On here, they aren't allowed to get as out of hand as they did on ATGS. If they get out of hand here, the thread gets locked. The moderators don't much care for such contests, and maybe you don't either, but one has to wade through an occasional one to get to the actual game-related posts.
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jan 20 2005, 10:00 PM\']Huh? Up until this season, there was never a sound effect when the last vowel to appear in a puzzle was bought (which was introduced concurrently w/the NMV graphic), just Pat saying something to the effect of "That's it for the vowels, you gotta spin or solve". Or are you confusing that w/the "only vowels left" chimes?
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Yep, you are exactly right. :) I had confused one with the other. But I still say the "no more vowels in the puzzle" thing is stupid. :)
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jan 21 2005, 08:16 PM\'][quote name=\'passwordplus\' date=\'Jan 21 2005, 01:22 PM\'][quote name=\'Dsmith\' date=\'Jan 19 2005, 08:05 AM\']
You are hardly one to call people out for being "stupid".
How's that TV production degree coming along?
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And this pissing contest is related to the topic how????
IIRC, I was asking about a used letter board, not somebody's degree or a flame war.
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Pissing contests, if you want to call them that, are something the regulars have gotten used to over the years on ATGS and here. On here, they aren't allowed to get as out of hand as they did on ATGS. If they get out of hand here, the thread gets locked. The moderators don't much care for such contests, and maybe you don't either, but one has to wade through an occasional one to get to the actual game-related posts.
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I hope the mods. realize our time is more valuable than that.