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Title: The Password Variations...
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on April 16, 2005, 04:17:31 AM
Playing Password with some internet aquatinces (bad misspell), I came to wonder: Does anyone have a concise knowledge of what words were allowed on P+ and SP?

I know that SP disallowed foreign words, but allowed opposites.
Can someone else provide a more concise list? [Feel free to use the other Passwords, if need be].
Title: The Password Variations...
Post by: whewfan on April 16, 2005, 05:48:25 AM
BTW <voice of Speak N Spell> The correct spelling is A-C-Q-U-A-I-N-T-A-N-C-E

Back to Password...

On Password Plus in the early part of the run, they were more lenient. For example "Firewoman" was acceptable for "Fireman". Also, forms of the password were considered correct, the player did not have to give the correct form. I believe the "no opposites" rule was implemented because too many celebs and players were relying on opposites to convey passwords. At the beginning of the run, each side got 3 clues each, later it was 2 clues each. Also, the team that DIDN'T guess the password got the first clue of the next password. (As was the case for the previous Passwords) Fortunately they realized that gave that team an unfair advantage guessing the puzzle and changed the rule.

Super Password, for the first show only, had a rule that if a player couldn't come up with a clue for a password in time, the other side got two clues. This was quickly scrapped because it was just too confusing. Super Password also nixed the "play or pass" option.

On all versions, the password had to be an actual word, or a well recognized slang word. (For some reason, Betty White's clue for kiss, "mmmmwah", was allowed, even though it's not a word) Pantomime is never allowed, but you can use your face to some extent. You can smile to convey "happy", but you can't move your eyebrows to convey "eyebrows" (as Bowzer did on one show) or wink to convey "wink".
Title: The Password Variations...
Post by: JMFabiano on April 16, 2005, 07:01:33 PM
[quote name=\'whewfan\' date=\'Apr 16 2005, 04:48 AM\']Super Password, for the first show only, had a rule that if a player couldn't come up with a clue for a password in time, the other side got two clues. This was quickly scrapped because it was just too confusing. Super Password also nixed the "play or pass" option.
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Which reminds me of my post on the other thread on the GSN board...why DID they delete the P/P option when SP came around?  When Family Feud returned, it was understandable that they'd lose the option since passing families were on "I'll put it on account" levels of rarity.  But seeing PW+ again, P/P was a very important strategic move.  

Maybe, since SP was allowing clues once illegal on PW+ and such, they took away pass/play to try and compensate for some lost challenge?  Meaning, if a tough word comes up, you're stuck with it, like it or not.
Title: The Password Variations...
Post by: GS Warehouse on April 16, 2005, 08:20:40 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Apr 16 2005, 03:17 AM\']Playing Password with some internet aquatinces (bad misspell), I came to wonder: Does anyone have a concise knowledge of what words were allowed on P+ and SP?
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Yesterday we saw a contestant give the clue "seaside" for the password "seashore", and I was sure that clue would get dit-dit-dit-dit'd, but it wasn't.  Of course, when it came back to her, her next clue was waaaay too close to the password--"seashore".  "Seaside" definitely won't work on any version of Pyramid, that's for sure.

BTW, can you solve this Password Puzzle? :-)

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Title: The Password Variations...
Post by: JMFabiano on April 16, 2005, 11:34:06 PM
[quote name=\'GS Warehouse\' date=\'Apr 16 2005, 07:20 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Apr 16 2005, 03:17 AM\']Playing Password with some internet aquatinces (bad misspell), I came to wonder: Does anyone have a concise knowledge of what words were allowed on P+ and SP?
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Yesterday we saw a contestant give the clue "seaside" for the password "seashore", and I was sure that clue would get dit-dit-dit-dit'd, but it wasn't.  Of course, when it came back to her, her next clue was waaaay too close to the password--"seashore".  "Seaside" definitely won't work on any version of Pyramid, that's for sure.

BTW, can you solve this Password Puzzle? :-)

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Title: The Password Variations...
Post by: GS Warehouse on April 17, 2005, 01:22:01 AM
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Title: The Password Variations...
Post by: cmjb13 on April 17, 2005, 06:45:23 AM
The other day CNR gave the clue "jacket" for straightjacket.

I'm suprised that didn't get buzzed.
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Post by: Unrealtor on April 17, 2005, 01:42:12 PM
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Apr 17 2005, 05:45 AM\']The other day CNR gave the clue "jacket" for straightjacket.

I'm suprised that didn't get buzzed.
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...and if the clue didn't give the word to his partner, his immediate cringing at expecting to have it ruled illegal did, IMO. I don't think there was any easy way to get that otherwive, given the first three clues.
Title: The Password Variations...
Post by: Ian Wallis on April 17, 2005, 04:02:30 PM
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Maybe, since SP was allowing clues once illegal on PW+ and such, they took away pass/play to try and compensate for some lost challenge? Meaning, if a tough word comes up, you're stuck with it, like it or not.


I always wondered about that too, but if you have a good team playing against you they could theoretically sweep the puzzle, never giving you a chance.  Maybe taking away the play/pass was an equalizer - as Bert said on many occasions "a bouncer".
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Post by: Neumms on April 17, 2005, 06:17:04 PM
Ludden always explained how getting the option was supposed to be an advantage. The team not getting the previous puzzle always started with the option (I think), so it's not as if one team could sweep a whole game.

I was floored when "Miss America" was the password--not a clue, the password itself. Dr. Reason A. Goodwin may still be rolling over in his grave.
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Post by: clemon79 on April 17, 2005, 09:38:42 PM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Apr 17 2005, 03:17 PM\']I was floored when "Miss America" was the password--not a clue, the password itself. Dr. Reason A. Goodwin may still be rolling over in his grave.
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And t'other day, during the "Blockbusters" puzzle, we had "NBC" come up as a Password, which is of course no more a single word than "Miss America" is. :)
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Post by: SRIV94 on April 17, 2005, 10:16:56 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Apr 17 2005, 08:38 PM\']And t'other day, during the "Blockbusters" puzzle, we had "NBC" come up as a Password, which is of course no more a single word than "Miss America" is. :)
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Not like it hadn't happened before.  The (then) three major nets' initials were frequently used as passwords (as were two-word place names like "New York" and "Los Angeles").  Ludden usually justified it by saying, "clues can't be more than one word, but passwords can."

Of course, NBC executives probably cringed every time "ABC" or "CBS" was used.  Any time someone appeared on NBC, if they were doing a non-NBC project invariably they'd be forced to say "on another network" (just in case someone else reading this didn't know that ;-) ).

Doug
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Post by: BrandonFG on April 17, 2005, 10:23:01 PM
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Apr 17 2005, 09:16 PM\']Of course, NBC executives probably cringed every time "ABC" or "CBS" was used.  Any time someone appeared on NBC, if they were doing a non-NBC project invariably they'd be forced to say "on another network" (just in case someone else reading this didn't know that ;-) ).
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From Match Game PM:

GENE: Richard has a new show, Family Feud, but unfortunately, we can't mention what network it's on.

RICHARD: Oh, that's OK...what are the first three letters of the alphabet?

GENE: A-B-C.

RICHARD: That's the network it's on.

Yeah, I know PM was syndicated, but it was still a good bit. :-)
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Post by: Neumms on April 17, 2005, 11:11:56 PM
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Apr 17 2005, 09:16 PM\']
Not like it hadn't happened before.  The (then) three major nets' initials were frequently used as passwords (as were two-word place names like "New York" and "Los Angeles").  Ludden usually justified it by saying, "clues can't be more than one word, but passwords can."

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Well, with lousy justifications like that, no wonder nobody liked Ludden around the set.
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Post by: SRIV94 on April 18, 2005, 12:07:06 AM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Apr 17 2005, 10:11 PM\']Well, with lousy justifications like that, no wonder nobody liked Ludden around the set.
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I would venture to say that it wasn't his decision (although I can't say that for sure).  I'm pretty sure Kennedy (after taking over) and Convy (on SP) said the same thing if and when a password had more than one word and someone got confused ("I thought everything had to be one word!").

Doug
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Post by: MCArroyo1 on April 18, 2005, 10:00:13 AM
I don't think it was his decision either.  I believe what he's getting at (and I could be wrong) is that this mistake of a rule couldn't have cheered UP Allen during tapings.
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Post by: uncamark on April 19, 2005, 05:02:25 PM
And while Gene and Dawson were being so coy about mentioning the network of "Feud," they forgot that "MGPM" was seen on ABC-owned stations in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles (yeah, and Detroit and San Francisco, too).
Title: The Password Variations...
Post by: JMFabiano on April 19, 2005, 05:58:42 PM
For you "is it legal?" players at home, today's SP's bonus round must have been heaven.  Apparently, Tom Poston didn't learn anything from his performance on the last Alphabetics of PW+, as he gave gestures for (I forget the word).  Then for "erotic" he gave "love making" as a clue.  The contestant got credit for both I think, or at least one was never guessed but not buzzed.  The gesture incident is definitely suspect, but would you consider "love making" acceptable as one word just as much as it is a phrase?
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Post by: aaron sica on April 19, 2005, 06:00:00 PM
[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Apr 19 2005, 05:58 PM\']For you "is it legal?" players at home, today's SP's bonus round must have been heaven.  Apparently, Tom Poston didn't learn anything from his performance on the last Alphabetics of PW+, as he gave gestures for (I forget the word), and for "erotic" he gave "love making" as a clue.  The contestant got credit for both I think.  The gesture incident is definitely suspect, but would you consider "love making" acceptable as one word just as much as it is a phrase?
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I believe it was "Flash" that he gave gestures for...As he was gesturing like he had a camera...
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Post by: JMFabiano on April 19, 2005, 06:04:46 PM
[quote name=\'aaron sica\' date=\'Apr 19 2005, 05:00 PM\'][quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Apr 19 2005, 05:58 PM\']For you "is it legal?" players at home, today's SP's bonus round must have been heaven.  Apparently, Tom Poston didn't learn anything from his performance on the last Alphabetics of PW+, as he gave gestures for (I forget the word), and for "erotic" he gave "love making" as a clue.  The contestant got credit for both I think.  The gesture incident is definitely suspect, but would you consider "love making" acceptable as one word just as much as it is a phrase?
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I believe it was "Flash" that he gave gestures for...As he was gesturing like he had a camera...
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Yep, that's it.
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Post by: aaron sica on April 19, 2005, 06:09:39 PM
[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Apr 19 2005, 06:04 PM\']

I believe it was "Flash" that he gave gestures for...As he was gesturing like he had a camera...
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Yep, that's it.
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I was surprised that they let him get away with that as long as he did..
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Post by: clemon79 on April 19, 2005, 06:23:30 PM
[quote name=\'JMFabiano\' date=\'Apr 19 2005, 02:58 PM\']but would you consider "love making" acceptable as one word just as much as it is a phrase?
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According to dictionary.com, "lovemaking" is absolutely one word, as cited by three different sources, including Webster's and American Heritage.
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Post by: Gromit on April 19, 2005, 07:33:10 PM
Was singing a clue allowed?

It struck me today, when "Delight" came up, the first thing that went through my mind was "A-A-Afternoon..."
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Post by: SRIV94 on April 19, 2005, 07:43:47 PM
[quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Apr 19 2005, 06:33 PM\']Was singing a clue allowed?

It struck me today, when "Delight" came up, the first thing that went through my mind was "A-A-Afternoon..."
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You need to get out more.  :)

Doug
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Post by: zachhoran on April 19, 2005, 08:20:13 PM
[quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Apr 19 2005, 06:33 PM\']Was singing a clue allowed?

It struck me today, when "Delight" came up, the first thing that went through my mind was "A-A-Afternoon..."
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Singing a clue was allowed, as it didn't require the use of hand gestures.
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Post by: clemon79 on April 19, 2005, 08:54:03 PM
[quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Apr 19 2005, 04:33 PM\']Was singing a clue allowed?

It struck me today, when "Delight" came up, the first thing that went through my mind was "A-A-Afternoon..."
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Yes, that would have been fine. Just say a single word. How you say it is your choice. (With the exception of nixing the opposites on P+, of course.)
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Post by: That Don Guy on April 19, 2005, 09:38:13 PM
[quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Apr 19 2005, 06:33 PM\']Was singing a clue allowed?
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I saw it happen once - Marcia Wallace sang the clue "song", trying to get the password "Supercalifragilisticexpialadocious".

-- Don
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Post by: aaron sica on April 19, 2005, 09:41:12 PM
[quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Apr 19 2005, 07:33 PM\']Was singing a clue allowed?

It struck me today, when "Delight" came up, the first thing that went through my mind was "A-A-Afternoon..."
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I saw Carol Burnett do it, too, either on P+ or SP.
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Post by: GS Warehouse on April 19, 2005, 11:30:42 PM
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Apr 19 2005, 06:43 PM\'][quote name=\'Gromit\' date=\'Apr 19 2005, 06:33 PM\']It struck me today, when "Delight" came up, the first thing that went through my mind was "A-A-Afternoon..."
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You need to get out more.  :)
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Emma Danoff, the daughter of Starland Vocal Band members Bill and Taffy Danoff, was a contestant on Greed in 2000.

How's my Zach impression? :-)