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Dunno if it's ever happened, but if someone gave an illegal clue on the "Cashword," what was the penalty? Loss of that clue, or forfeiture of the check?
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'May 2 2005, 10:36 PM\']Dunno if it's ever happened, but if someone gave an illegal clue on the "Cashword," what was the penalty? Loss of that clue, or forfeiture of the check?
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Seeing as if they just threw out the clue they could just read the damn Cashword with clue one and then win the prize with clue two, I'm guessing an illegal clue would throw out the round entirely.
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'May 3 2005, 12:46 AM\']Seeing as if they just threw out the clue they could just read the damn Cashword with clue one and then win the prize with clue two,...
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Now, *there's* a strategy! I'm not sure whether I want you as my partner or my opponant!
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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'May 3 2005, 12:36 AM\']Dunno if it's ever happened, but if someone gave an illegal clue on the "Cashword," what was the penalty? Loss of that clue, or forfeiture of the check?
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An illegal clue meant the clue-giving was over and no money awarded. Bert was surprised about this on at least one occurrence of this, and asked about what the rule was himself.
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Well, let me ask this question:
Was there ever an occurance when the celebrity had no clue what the word meant?
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'May 3 2005, 02:26 PM\']Well, let me ask this question:
Was there ever an occurance when the celebrity had no clue what the word meant?
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If there was, I bet it never made it to air.
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[quote name=\'robsearson\' date=\'May 3 2005, 12:51 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'May 3 2005, 02:26 PM\']Well, let me ask this question:
Was there ever an occurance when the celebrity had no clue what the word meant?
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If there was, I bet it never made it to air.
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Because they'd throw out the Cashword and replace it with another one? Replay the $200 puzzle? I'm not entirely sure S&P would go for that.
Throw out the whole show? I'm not sure Goodson would go for that.
(I could be wrong about any of this.)
How would you have it "not make it to air" and still maintain continuity?
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[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'May 3 2005, 03:20 PM\']
How would you have it "not make it to air" and still maintain continuity?
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The following statement is speculation (and that's a tip for all you young posters who don't know what that means. Look it up before you post the next time, KARLBERG)....
I'd imagine that G/T and Bob Stewart had a much tougher policy on celebs back in the day....If they couldn't prove that they could play the game, they wouldn't get to play the game. Password and Pyramid celebs, especially, proved often that they were intelligent players. Thus, I can't really imagine Goodson throwing out a Cashword cause the celeb didn't know the word, mainly because I'd imagine the situation never came up.
Can you picture Jillian Barberie playing the cashword? Kathy Griffin? Carrot Top? Me neither.
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' date=\'May 3 2005, 07:49 AM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'May 3 2005, 12:46 AM\']Seeing as if they just threw out the clue they could just read the damn Cashword with clue one and then win the prize with clue two,...
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Now, *there's* a strategy! I'm not sure whether I want you as my partner or my opponant![/quote]
You're stuck on the last word in (P+) Alphabetics. Time's running out:
"Just say JUKEBOX!" (eh eh eh eh)
Yay, $4000.
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[quote name=\'robsearson\' date=\'May 3 2005, 02:51 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'May 3 2005, 02:26 PM\']Well, let me ask this question:
Was there ever an occurance when the celebrity had no clue what the word meant?
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If there was, I bet it never made it to air.
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Bert Convy: What the hell is that?!
(Mother MacKenzie laughs)
Yeah, that was P+, and it was during Alphabetics, but I think it could carry over to SP. :-)
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'May 3 2005, 08:58 PM\'][quote name=\'robsearson\' date=\'May 3 2005, 02:51 PM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'May 3 2005, 02:26 PM\']Well, let me ask this question:
Was there ever an occurance when the celebrity had no clue what the word meant?
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If there was, I bet it never made it to air.
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Bert Convy: What the hell is that?!
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Yeah, that was P+, and it was during Alphabetics, but I think it could carry over to SP. :-)
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Another P+ occurance that might apply to the Cashword debate was an episode where a contestant stared blankly at the word "HOVER" and told Tom, "I don't know what it means." IIRC, they simply ran out the timer and hit the buzzer.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'May 3 2005, 07:22 PM\'][quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' date=\'May 3 2005, 07:49 AM\'][quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'May 3 2005, 12:46 AM\']Seeing as if they just threw out the clue they could just read the damn Cashword with clue one and then win the prize with clue two,...
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Now, *there's* a strategy! I'm not sure whether I want you as my partner or my opponant![/quote]
You're stuck on the last word in (P+) Alphabetics. Time's running out:
"Just say JUKEBOX!" (eh eh eh eh)
Yay, $4000.
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But wait--that was three words without a response. Wouldn't that be *three* illegal clues? We pay off only $2K.
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On one episode from late 1988, Rebeca Arthur got the Ca$hword FILIBUSTER but didn't give a single clue for it. I'm not sure if she didn't know what it meant or just couldn't think of a good clue for it. Similarly, later that week, when she had the Ca$hword GERONIMO, she gave only one clue and then the buzzer rang on the remaining two clues. She seemed to be very much off her game.
But in the next-to-last week of SP, Stephen Furst got the Ca$hword MAMBO and admitted to Bert that he had no idea what it meant. He gave the clues "Rambo" and "rhyme," and, amazingly, his partner said "mambo." Once Stephen heard it out loud, he immediately recognized the word. I guess he just didn't know how it was spelled.
Brendan
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I recall from the last time SP ran on GSN a game where the Cashword was "splotch". The contestant got it on one clue--"splitch". However, it wasn't until the next commerical break when it was discovered that the clue was illegal--made-up words are not allowed, and "splitch" is not a word. However, because the judging mistake wasn't caught by the break, the contestant kept his/her bonus money.
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[quote name=\'tvwxman\' date=\'May 3 2005, 03:59 PM\']The following statement is speculation (and that's a tip for all you young posters who don't know what that means. Look it up before you post the next time, KARLBERG)....
I'd imagine that G/T and Bob Stewart had a much tougher policy on celebs back in the day....If they couldn't prove that they could play the game, they wouldn't get to play the game. Password and Pyramid celebs, especially, proved often that they were intelligent players. Thus, I can't really imagine Goodson throwing out a Cashword cause the celeb didn't know the word, mainly because I'd imagine the situation never came up.
Can you picture Jillian Barberie playing the cashword? Kathy Griffin? Carrot Top? Me neither.
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As for "Password," Ludden supposedly said that once an unnamed big ABC star that the network wanted on was passed over because s/he didn't understand the game. So there was quality control on the G-T side.
As for Stewart and "Pyramid," five words--Jimmie "J.J." "Kid Dyn-O-Mite" Walker. Ten contestants went to their doom the one week he was on "$20K" thanks to him. By the end, I'm sure the people in the pool was hoping that they'd win the $10,000 with Anita Gilette and get the hell out.
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I know in the Super Password bonus round, they changed the rules from P+ so that if you gave an illegal clue, just like Pyramid, you forfeit the chance at the big money. I would think they'd do the same with the Cashword.
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As for Stewart and "Pyramid," five words--Jimmie "J.J." "Kid Dyn-O-Mite" Walker. Ten contestants went to their doom the one week he was on "$20K" thanks to him. By the end, I'm sure the people in the pool was hoping that they'd win the $10,000 with Anita Gilette and get the hell out.
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I thought his opponent for that week was Meredith MacRae. Did anyone here see the week in question?
Brendan
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[quote name=\'Clay Zambo\' date=\'May 3 2005, 09:27 PM\'][quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'May 3 2005, 07:22 PM\']You're stuck on the last word in (P+) Alphabetics. Time's running out:
"Just say JUKEBOX!" (eh eh eh eh)
Yay, $4000.
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But wait--that was three words without a response. Wouldn't that be *three* illegal clues? We pay off only $2K.[/quote]
I humbly submit that you cannot penalize a single word for two violations (being more than one word, and being the password). $3000, no lower.
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As for Stewart and "Pyramid," five words--Jimmie "J.J." "Kid Dyn-O-Mite" Walker. Ten contestants went to their doom the one week he was on "$20K" thanks to him. By the end, I'm sure the people in the pool was hoping that they'd win the $10,000 with Anita Gilette and get the hell out.
It was the same for both Connie Francis and Valerie Bertinelli's respective one-wk stints, ex-ATGSer Tom Gauer finding out about the latter firsthand.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'May 4 2005, 11:13 AM\']As for "Password," Ludden supposedly said that once an unnamed big ABC star that the network wanted on was passed over because s/he didn't understand the game. So there was quality control on the G-T side.
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I can't describe how disturbed I am by the idea that somebody can't understand how "Password" was played.
Quality control seemed to be a part of any celebrity game in those days. Tom Kennedy relayed an antecdote (found on my site, cheap plug) about a YDS! taping being stopped in the middle of the first game to send a celebrity home because he just did not get the game at all.
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[quote name=\'pyrfan\' date=\'May 4 2005, 05:05 PM\'][quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'May 4 2005, 11:13 AM\']
As for Stewart and "Pyramid," five words--Jimmie "J.J." "Kid Dyn-O-Mite" Walker. Ten contestants went to their doom the one week he was on "$20K" thanks to him. By the end, I'm sure the people in the pool was hoping that they'd win the $10,000 with Anita Gilette and get the hell out.
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I thought his opponent for that week was Meredith MacRae. Did anyone here see the week in question?
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May've been--it was a long time ago. Either way, it was a mismatch, since both Anita and Meredith were top-notch game players.