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That brief experiment w/3 questions in the maingame rounds (and 2 for tiebreakers) has ended, and they're back to the standard 4-4-3 format. Also, players now retire upon winning the car.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jun 28 2005, 07:09 PM\']That brief experiment w/3 questions in the maingame rounds (and 2 for tiebreakers) has ended, and they're back to the standard 4-4-3 format. Also, players now retire upon winning the car.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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Wasn't retiring after winning the car always the case?
On a side note, Chuck please e-mail me at your convenience at cmjb13@yahoo.com.
Thanks.
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[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Jun 28 2005, 06:09 PM\']That brief experiment w/3 questions in the maingame rounds (and 2 for tiebreakers) has ended, and they're back to the standard 4-4-3 format. Also, players now retire upon winning the car.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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The players retiring upon winning the car rule will be quite short-lived. As of today's airing, the cars were downgraded to $15K(in 1986 dollars) sports cars like Camaro IROCs, and all time Card Sharks winner Brian Hunt won a second one of them and was not forced to retire.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jun 28 2005, 06:44 PM\']The players retiring upon winning the car rule will be quite short-lived. As of today's airing, the cars were downgraded to $15K(in 1986 dollars) sports cars like Camaro IROCs, and all time Card Sharks winner Brian Hunt won a second one of them and was not forced to retire.
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1) It was $16,000. I just had to nitpick the King of Nitpicks.
2) You say downgrade like it's a Geo Metro* or something. $16,000 is good for a car in 2005, let alone 19 yrs. ago. Yeah, I know that they offered Corvettes and Cadillac's, but I still wouldn't consider a Camaro a "downgrade," considering how it was still one of Chevrolet's higher-end cars.
*I know that the Metro wasn't offered till the late-80s. I'm just using it as an example.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jun 28 2005, 11:53 PM\']2) You say downgrade like it's a Geo Metro* or something. $16,000 is good for a car in 2005[/quote]
Besides the Ion, Kias and Hyundais', Sunfire, Cavailier, Aveo, Neon, and Civic what other cars can you get for around $16,000. None of the aforementioned models are exactly Park Avenue.
Edit: I knew it was one of two Honda's. Thanks for the correction. Further edit made due to poor punctuation. It's late. I should be in bed.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Jun 28 2005, 10:56 PM\']Besides the Ion, Sunfire, Cavailier, Aveo, Neon, and Accord...what other cars can you get for around $16,000.
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If a Honda Accord is crap, then I aspire to drive crap, 'cuz I drive a Civic now and I would LOVE for my next car to be an Accord.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Jun 29 2005, 12:56 AM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jun 28 2005, 11:53 PM\']2) You say downgrade like it's a Geo Metro* or something. $16,000 is good for a car in 2005[/quote]
Besides the Ion, Kias and Hyundais' Sunfire, Cavailier, Aveo, Neon, and Civic what other cars can you get for around $16,000. None of the aforementioned models are exactly Park Avenue.
Edit: I knew it was one of two Honda's. Thanks for the correction.
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I thought the Aveo was only about $12,000? BTW, Sunfire is Pontiac.
You forgot Corolla (I had to blatantly plug my car ;-) ), but I see what you're saying. I didn't realize so many compact cars were in the mid-teens. Still, none of those are el-cheapos. AFAIK, they all get good consumer ratings, esp. that Corolla. ;-)
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jun 28 2005, 11:53\']
I thought the Aveo was only about $12,000? BTW, Sunfire is Pontiac.
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http://makeashorterlink.com/?R1AF1285B (http://\"http://makeashorterlink.com/?R1AF1285B\")
Add a sunroof, transmission, and a couple other things. Not only do you have a $15,000 car...but you have the most tricked out Aveo on the block.
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The only time a contestant ever retired upon winning a car is if it put them over the show's winnings limit (not sure what it is at this point.)
Greg
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[quote name=\'snowpeck\' date=\'Jun 29 2005, 02:56 PM\']The only time a contestant ever retired upon winning a car is if it put them over the show's winnings limit (not sure what it is at this point.)[/quote]
No. The lady who won the car at the top of Monday's episode was retired after winning a car, amassing just over $35,000 in winnings. I'm pretty sure at least one person in the pre-car game era of Rafferty CS had winnings above $35,000, but wasn't forced to retire.
Anyhow, IIRC, the limit on both the daytime and nighttime versions of CS was $75,000.
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[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Jun 29 2005, 02:22 PM\']
Anyhow, IIRC, the limit on both the daytime and nighttime versions of CS was $75,000.
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It was $50K from Jan-Sep 1986. A contestant retired after passing the $50K mark in the first month of the daytime run. Brian Hunt was retired on the syndicated version at $63,105 because, as they said to him at the time(airdate November 1986) and he reported in ATGS a few years back, winning one more car would take him over the CBS winnings limit of $75K.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jun 29 2005, 06:07 PM\'][quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Jun 29 2005, 02:22 PM\']
Anyhow, IIRC, the limit on both the daytime and nighttime versions of CS was $75,000.
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It was $50K from Jan-Sep 1986. A contestant retired after passing the $50K mark in the first month of the daytime run. Brian Hunt was retired on the syndicated version at $63,105 because, as they said to him at the time(airdate November 1986) and he reported in ATGS a few years back, winning one more car would take him over the CBS winnings limit of $75K.
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I take it that was because the syndicated version must have aired on WCAU or another CBS O&O? I know it was on WABC in NY and KNBC in LA, so it would have had to conform to those network's limits as well.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jun 29 2005, 06:07 PM\']Brian Hunt was retired on the syndicated version at $63,105 because, as they said to him at the time(airdate November 1986) and he reported in ATGS a few years back, winning one more car would take him over the CBS winnings limit of $75K.
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Over $10K away from the limit and they bounce him? One good Money Cards and he'd have been over the limit, too. Couldn't they just reduce his total to $75000 from whatever it would end up being if he got that far? It seems rather rad to kick him to the curb just because he MIGHT get to the limit. A player with $45000 might bust the limit, too, under that grand plan. Would they have stopped him or her there as well?
If a contestant was within $1000 or so of the plateau I could see them retiring the player. That did happen at least once on the CBS Joker's Wild. The blonde lass who wore the cowboy hat was within a few hundred of the $25000 "legal limit" so Jack Barry just spotted her the extra bills and bade her goodbye.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jun 29 2005, 09:59 PM\']
Over $10K away from the limit and they bounce him? One good Money Cards and he'd have been over the limit, too. Couldn't they just reduce his total to $75000 from whatever it would end up being if he got that far? It seems rather rad to bounce him just because he MIGHT get to the limit. A player with $45000 might bust the limit, too, under that grand plan. Would they have stopped him or her there as well?
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Brian Hunt was up to $58,005 before he played in his final match(including two cars), and they didn't boot him at that point.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jun 29 2005, 10:04 PM\']Brian Hunt was up to $58,005 before he played in his final match(including two cars), and they didn't boot him at that point.
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Had he won the maximum five games yet? Otherwise, the man was robbed. Made out very well, but robbed nonetheless.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jun 29 2005, 10:06 PM\']
Had Brian Hunt won the maximum five games yet? Otherwise, the man was robbed. Made out very well, but robbed nonetheless.
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IIRC he had won four matches.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jun 30 2005, 06:36 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jun 29 2005, 10:06 PM\']
Had Brian Hunt won the maximum five games yet? Otherwise, the man was robbed. Made out very well, but robbed nonetheless.
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IIRC he had won four matches.
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You're right, he had won 4 matches, because I taped Monday's show, and he had just won his 5th match to retire with $63,105.
I also finally got to see how those prize cards work, and they're not bad, but I have a question. I noticed that in the next match, the winner won a $500 prize card, but after playing the MC, their total did not reflect winning $200 for the match like in all the other versions of Card Sharks. My question is: Was this supposed to happen, and what did they give you for winning the match if for some reason you didn't turn over any prize cards?
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[quote name=\'Sonic Whammy\' date=\'Jul 13 2005, 08:41 AM\'][quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jun 30 2005, 06:36 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jun 29 2005, 10:06 PM\']
Had Brian Hunt won the maximum five games yet? Otherwise, the man was robbed. Made out very well, but robbed nonetheless.
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IIRC he had won four matches.
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You're right, he had won 4 matches, because I taped Monday's show, and he had just won his 5th match to retire with $63,105.
I also finally got to see how those prize cards work, and they're not bad, but I have a question. I noticed that in the next match, the winner won a $500 prize card, but after playing the MC, their total did not reflect winning $200 for the match like in all the other versions of Card Sharks. My question is: Was this supposed to happen, and what did they give you for winning the match if for some reason you didn't turn over any prize cards?
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Brian actually won only three matches, winning the car in the first two bonus rounds. No $100 was awarded for winning a maingame in the prize cards era of Rafferty CS. Nothing was awarded for winning a match if no prize cards were turned up.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jul 13 2005, 08:56 AM\']Brian actually won only three matches, winning the car in the first two bonus rounds.
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Then how had he "reached the limit"? The "limit" was still close to $12K and/or two wins away.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jul 13 2005, 10:14 AM\'][quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jul 13 2005, 08:56 AM\']Brian actually won only three matches, winning the car in the first two bonus rounds.
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Then how had he "reached the limit"? The "limit" was still close to $12K and/or two wins away.
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Brian Hunt himself posted in ATGS around 1997, when the Rafferty CS first aired on GSN. He said he was told that winning one more Pontiac Fiero would place him over the $75K limit, which is why they gave him the exit after that third win.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jul 13 2005, 11:00 AM\'][quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jul 13 2005, 10:14 AM\'][quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jul 13 2005, 08:56 AM\']Brian actually won only three matches, winning the car in the first two bonus rounds.
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Then how had he "reached the limit"? The "limit" was still close to $12K and/or two wins away.
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Brian Hunt himself posted in ATGS around 1997, when the Rafferty CS first aired on GSN. He said he was told that winning one more Pontiac Fiero would place him over the $75K limit, which is why they gave him the exit after that third win.
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But he didn't win the third Fiero. A good Money Cards would've put him over the limit also. His early exit makes no sense. Or is this like the "John Harlan will never work for Merv Griffin again" remark we hear every now and again which never legitimately gets backed up.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jul 13 2005, 11:23 AM\']
But Brian didn't win the third Fiero. A good Money Cards would've put him over the limit also. His early exit makes no sense. Or is this like the "John Harlan will never work for Merv Griffin again" remark we hear every now and again which never legitimately gets backed up.
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The backing-up in this case comes from Brian Hunt, not from just a closet GS fan as the John Harlan/Merv Griffin alleged issues. Brian reported in his post in March 1997 that they would retire him once he hit $60K at the end of his third game. They stopped tape after his third bonus round ended and decided to do that.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jul 13 2005, 11:28 AM\']Brian reported in his post in March 1997 that they would retire him once he hit $60K at the end of his third game. They stopped tape after his third bonus round ended and decided to do that.
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Now that is the answer I was waiting for. All I got until now was that they did it but never learned what the backstory was. Hit $60K and you're gone. Now I know. Thank you, Zach. Now about this John Harlan mystery..........oh, forget it.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jul 13 2005, 11:52 AM\'][quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Jul 13 2005, 11:28 AM\']Brian reported in his post in March 1997 that they would retire him once he hit $60K at the end of his third game. They stopped tape after his third bonus round ended and decided to do that.
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Now that is the answer I was waiting for. All I got until now was that they did it but never learned what the backstory was. Hit $60K and you're gone. Now I know. Thank you, Zach. Now about this John Harlan mystery..........oh, forget it.
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That's how it was done for Brian Hunt. At least two earlier car winners(i.e. those who won a Cadillac or a Corvette) were retired upon winning their first car, and their total winnings were $30K-$40K. The first car winner did not have to retire despite winning a Cadillac.
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Actually, the first two car winners didn't retire. In the early days, cars stayed on until won twice.
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OK, how many format tinkerings (no matter how modest) did this version of the show have? It seems to be up there with Play The Percentages.
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jul 13 2005, 11:12 PM\']OK, how many format tinkerings (no matter how modest) did this version of the show have? It seems to be up there with Play The Percentages.
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Don't forget about CBS Joker's Wild and it's new bonus round every week!
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Jun 28 2005, 10:27 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Jun 28 2005, 11:53\']
I thought the Aveo was only about $12,000? BTW, Sunfire is Pontiac.
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http://makeashorterlink.com/?R1AF1285B (http://\"http://makeashorterlink.com/?R1AF1285B\")
Add a sunroof, transmission, and a couple other things. Not only do you have a $15,000 car...but you have the most tricked out Aveo on the block.
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The 5-door Aveo looks like a friggin' roller skate...
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[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Jul 13 2005, 10:12 PM\']OK, how many format tinkerings (no matter how modest) did this version of the show have? It seems to be up there with Play The Percentages.
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So far:
1-3. Number of questions changes from 4-4-3 to 3-3-2, to 4-3-2, and then back to 4-4-3.
4. Audience poll questions introduced(week 2).
5-6. Car round and Educated Guess questions introduced, no longer $100 awarded for a maingame win when prize cards debuted(week 7).
7. Car winners retired undefeated on first car win, then no longer retired.
But Rafferty CS didn't do a total maingame format change like PtP did.