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Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: golden-road on August 02, 2005, 01:34:43 PM
I taped a Christmas Week '79 episode of the Monty Hall version two years ago, as well as an episode with Jackie Gleason last weekend, and was wondering, how did the Narz/Wood & Non-Celebrity Monty Hall versions played, compared to the version seen on weekends?
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: clemon79 on August 02, 2005, 02:22:11 PM
[quote name=\'golden-road\' date=\'Aug 2 2005, 10:34 AM\']how did the Narz/Wood & Non-Celebrity Monty Hall versions played, compared to the version seen on weekends?
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It's been too long since I've seen Narz/Wood, but the Monty Hall version played exactly the same with celebritied as without, save for the money going to charity instead of in their pockets: a few stunts worth money, then the Bonus Shuffle to determine who played the bonus and for how much, then the Bonus itself.

Here's a handy site that I found in two seconds Googling on "beat the clock" and "bonus shuffle". Google is your friend:

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Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: beatlefreak84 on August 02, 2005, 04:44:41 PM
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I taped a Christmas Week '79 episode of the Monty Hall version two years ago, as well as an episode with Jackie Gleason last weekend, and was wondering, how did the Narz/Wood & Non-Celebrity Monty Hall versions played, compared to the version seen on weekends?

Narz/Wood:  Two couples would play on each episode, doing two stunts each.  Each completed stunt earned a trip to the "Cash Board" (letters in the show's title) for up to $200.  If a stunt was completed quickly, then the couple could try to do it again for bonus money (usually $10 each repetition).  They would also win $50 if they could guess whether a celeb could complete a stunt or not, and the final stunt of the show was a head-to-head with the couples competing for a bonus prize.

Non-Celeb Hall:  Two head-to-head stunts and two "beat the mark set by the other team" stunts were played by two couples each show (that's a lot of twos!) for $500 each stunt (it was $250 for the celeb version).  The "Bonus Shuffle" and "Bonus Stunt" were played with the same rules as the celeb version, except no money went to the audience and the couples kept all their money, as Chris said.

Hope that helps!

Anthony
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: beatlefreak84 on August 02, 2005, 06:14:37 PM
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When was the last time GSN aired these versions on the daily schedule?

The Hall version last aired on weekends before the "Dark Period" at a time in the morning where the only time I would see it is to set the VCR...:).  I'm pretty sure the "Dark Period" ended this version's regular appearances.

After the "Dark Period," the Narz/Wood version was back on weekend mornings, but I don't remember when it stopped.  I know the last time I saw it was in high school, so I'm going to make a conservative guess and say it stopped around 2001.

Can somebody confirm/correct these things?  Right now, I'm about as sure of myself as I am of winning the Lotto this week...:)

Anthony
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: golden-road on August 03, 2005, 12:05:27 PM
During the Non-Celeb Hall days, did anybody win $10,000?
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: Ian Wallis on August 04, 2005, 04:00:34 PM
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The Hall version last aired on weekends before the "Dark Period" at a time in the morning where the only time I would see it is to set the VCR...:). I'm pretty sure the "Dark Period" ended this version's regular appearances.

After the "Dark Period," the Narz/Wood version was back on weekend mornings, but I don't remember when it stopped. I know the last time I saw it was in high school, so I'm going to make a conservative guess and say it stopped around 2001.


I've kept lists of the first seven or eight GSN schedules, and you're exactly right about the Hall "Beat the Clock".  Aside from the Christmas episode, it hasn't been on the schedule since Oct 1997.  However, the Gene Wood version was taken off the weekend schedule in April 1999, and as far as I know hasn't been regularly aired since.
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: beatlefreak84 on August 04, 2005, 09:16:43 PM
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However, the Gene Wood version was taken off the weekend schedule in April 1999, and as far as I know hasn't been regularly aired since.

Thanks for the correction.  I did get one thing right, though:  I was in high school when it ended, though I was only a freshman as opposed to a junior...:)

So, we haven't seen color BTC episodes as regular scheduled appearances since 1999?  Wow; I didn't realize it was that long ago.  That's a real shame, especially since I always liked the Narz/Wood version over the other versions (not that I don't enjoy them, of course).  Adding in the "duel" and celebrity stunts was a nice touch, and, since the prize money wasn't so high, you just had two couples competing mainly for some laughs and to have some fun.  Plus, you had to love it when somebody would complete a stunt quickly enough to be able to try it again for more money (a very nice touch, IMO).

Anthony
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: irismason42 on August 04, 2005, 10:38:44 PM
However, I've seen some clips from the Gene Wood's hosting episodes of BTC from As Seen On, but of course when it came to As Seen On Theatre, they show us a full-length episode of the show when the clip was on ASO that week particularly from ASO Season 2's game show clips and color BTC's will eventually come back to regular showings if/when either by GSN launches Color Rarities overnight(that's of course rarely happens), or when the fall schedule is announced.
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: Robair on August 04, 2005, 10:44:03 PM
I lost you at "However".
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: davemackey on August 04, 2005, 11:00:43 PM
[quote name=\'Robair\' date=\'Aug 4 2005, 10:44 PM\']I lost you at "However".
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Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: uncamark on August 08, 2005, 04:32:21 PM
A quick point:  In the first New York season of the Narz "BTC," there was no cash board--the couples won prizes for every stunt.  The cash board didn't come along until the move to Canada.

And the race stunt didn't come along until Wood replaced Narz--until then, one couple did one more stunt than the other on each show, iwth the celeb solo stunt appearing in the second segment.  Occasionally, they would do a big group stunt or a game called "Beat-O" for the third segment (no, not Plinko--this was a combination of Bingo and a scavenger hunt where an item would be revealed on a bingo board and whichever couple could find it in the studio audience first got the square and $10, IIRC).
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: irismason42 on September 20, 2005, 09:32:33 PM
From watching BTC, the cash board ranged from $25 to $200 and even with Gene Wood taking over, the format didn't change in the first part because what you saw was that when the second couple was introduced, they would be the first couple to do a stunt and then Gene introduces a celebrity of the week. In the 1971-72 season in the third segment, there was a game of intuition, on Monday-Thursday shows, 3 girls from the studio audience would participate with 2 on-stage ladies would also be participating in this intuition, Jack asks up to 5 questions with 2 choices of answers and a celebrity had to point to an answer card but can't say anything and we can't see the answer until Jack asks the 5 ladies say what will be the answer to that question, everytime a celebrity points at the answer that at least 3 ladies answered, the 2 couples would get $25. On the Friday shows, Jack and the celebrity sits down and Jack asks a celebrity where a celebrity was born, when was a celebrity born in and where did the celebrity graduate, now while Jack has a conversation about the celebrity, Gail sent the 2 couples backstage and when Jack and the celebrity was done conversating, Gail sent the 2 couples back onstage and Jack asks the couples a question, if they know the answer was, all they did was raise their hand and if the couple gets the correct answer, that couple gets $25 per correct answer and BTW, the 3 ladies from the studio audience recieved a prize for participating in the Monday-Thursday intuition and at the end of the show, 3 or 4 members of the audience had to play a quick stunt for $20 for each repetition they do succesfully and then total up the final cash totals the couples had to take home. At the end of the Friday show, Jack/Gene had to announce a new celebrity for the next week's shows and there were no returning couples on this show unless there was an error on the total of the money a couple took home.
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: MikeK on September 20, 2005, 10:02:57 PM
[quote name=\'irismason42\' date=\'Sep 20 2005, 09:32 PM\']From watching BTC, the cash board ranged from $25 to $200 and even with Gene Wood taking over, the format didn't change in the first part because what you saw was that when the second couple was introduced, they would be the first couple to do a stunt and then Gene introduces a celebrity of the week.[/quote]
For $25 and control of the board...DIAGRAM THAT SENTENCE!

Here's proof that if you put 100 monkeys in front of 100 typewriters, eventually one of them will type Shakespeare...or some sort of crap that makes sense after pounding down a 6-pack.

Conversating?
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: chris319 on September 20, 2005, 10:26:14 PM
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a game called "Beat-O"
There are clubs in San Francisco where "Beat-O" is a nightly favorite.
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on September 21, 2005, 02:37:24 AM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Sep 20 2005, 09:26 PM\']
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a game called "Beat-O"
There are clubs in San Francisco where "Beat-O" is a nightly favorite.
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Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: clemon79 on September 21, 2005, 04:33:06 AM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Sep 20 2005, 07:26 PM\']There are clubs in San Francisco where "Beat-O" is a nightly favorite.
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Hell, there are some bedrooms occupied by members of this board where "Beat-O" is a nightly favorite... :)
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: Don Howard on September 21, 2005, 04:27:32 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Sep 21 2005, 03:33 AM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Sep 20 2005, 07:26 PM\']There are clubs in San Francisco where "Beat-O" is a nightly favorite.
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Hell, there are some bedrooms occupied by members of this board where "Beat-O" is a nightly favorite... :)
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Only when The Insider is on.
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: Brandon Brooks on September 21, 2005, 07:06:32 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Sep 21 2005, 03:27 PM\']Only when The Insider is on.
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With Pat O'Brien!!!

Brandon Brooks
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: TimK2003 on September 21, 2005, 07:39:49 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Aug 8 2005, 03:32 PM\']A quick point:  In the first New York season of the Narz "BTC," there was no cash board--the couples won prizes for every stunt.  The cash board didn't come along until the move to Canada.
And the race stunt didn't come along until Wood replaced Narz...
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Something I vaguely remember from the Wood BTC era:  If/When a contestant or couple lost (the clock beat them), Gene would lead the audience into saying one big Aww!, while they superimposed an AAAAWWWWWWwwwwww!!!!  graphic on the screen.

Anybody know how long that "loser" graphic was used?  Judging by how in most Gene Wood-announced shows where you can usually hear him leading the crowd in Ooohs, Ahhs, Awws and other assorted audience reactions, it sounds like that idea started during Gene's helm in Canada, no?
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: ChuckNet on September 22, 2005, 09:55:05 PM
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A quick point: In the first New York season of the Narz "BTC," there was no cash board--the couples won prizes for every stunt. The cash board didn't come along until the move to Canada.

And originally, when a letter was chosen from the cash board, there wasn't a duplicate letter underneath...this was quickly changed following an ep where one of the couples chose the "L" on their first visit to the board, which left a rather R-rated phrase on the board as a result. :-D

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: irismason42 on September 23, 2005, 01:12:47 PM
And also, when the show debuted in '69, there was still curtains on the set and there were B&W kinescopes courtesy of Mark's TV Themes Page but when they moved to Canada, the celebrity of the week route was added, and the elimination of the curtains and the dots that indicate seconds remaining shows up on our screen for the first time.
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: uncamark on September 27, 2005, 02:39:15 PM
[quote name=\'irismason42\' date=\'Sep 23 2005, 12:12 PM\']And also, when the show debuted in '69, there was still curtains on the set and there were B&W kinescopes courtesy of Mark's TV Themes Page but when they moved to Canada, the celebrity of the week route was added, and the elimination of the curtains and the dots that indicate seconds remaining shows up on our screen for the first time.
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What it said.  :)

To answer Tim's question, the AWWWWWWWWWWW! slide goes back to the second half of the New York season, when they were shooting at the Little/Helen Hayes Theatre while David Frost was back in London doing his British shows.  The slide got keyed with some color or another, like the opening slides and the credit crawl (but they had the colors change all psychedelic and stuff--farrrrr out!).
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: irismason42 on January 17, 2006, 10:09:56 AM
And something tells me that the MCMLXXII(1972) never came on display until Wood took over as host even with Narz's last new episodes airing in May or June 1972 and if you see the Narz-hosted episodes examples while one market shows the Louis Nye week, the other market shows the Elizabeth Montgomery week, now that's weeks bicycling alright and the celebrity solo stunt props came in during the closing credits and also while the audience members had to try one of the episode's stunts for $5 or $10 for each repetition. This was the reason that the original '50s CBS and ABC versions straddled and this version never had returning champion couples and the latest known version(1979-80 CBS) always had returning champion couples.
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: DjohnsonCB on January 17, 2006, 10:29:37 AM
[quote name=\'ChuckNet\' date=\'Sep 22 2005, 08:55 PM\']
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A quick point: In the first New York season of the Narz "BTC," there was no cash board--the couples won prizes for every stunt. The cash board didn't come along until the move to Canada.

And originally, when a letter was chosen from the cash board, there wasn't a duplicate letter underneath...this was quickly changed following an ep where one of the couples chose the "L" on their first visit to the board, which left a rather R-rated phrase on the board as a result. :-D

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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LOL!!!!!!  Does that show still exist?  I somehow doubt GSN will ever show it.
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: ChuckNet on January 17, 2006, 10:59:46 PM
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LOL!!!!!! Does that show still exist? I somehow doubt GSN will ever show it.

I would think it does, but since GSN's only ever shown Narz BtCs from the 71-72 season, wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it to turn up.

Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: aaron sica on January 19, 2006, 02:03:41 PM
[quote name=\'irismason42\' date=\'Jan 17 2006, 10:09 AM\']And something tells me that the MCMLXXII(1972) never came on display until Wood took over as host even with Narz's last new episodes airing in May or June 1972 and if you see the Narz-hosted episodes examples while one market shows the Louis Nye week, the other market shows the Elizabeth Montgomery week, now that's weeks bicycling alright and the celebrity solo stunt props came in during the closing credits and also while the audience members had to try one of the episode's stunts for $5 or $10 for each repetition. This was the reason that the original '50s CBS and ABC versions straddled and this version never had returning champion couples and the latest known version(1979-80 CBS) always had returning champion couples.
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Title: Beat The Clock
Post by: zachhoran on January 19, 2006, 07:24:03 PM
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the latest known BtC (1979-80 CBS) always had returning champion couples.
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Iris has also forgotten the PAX BtC from a few years back, and the fact that the 1979-80 BtC shifted to celeb teams playing for the audience halfway through the run.