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Next Tuesday (August 9th) The Muppet Show (Season 1) comes out on DVD...and it's about time! It includes outtakes and the pilot.
However, the link to this group is that Bruce Forsyth (the UKs Bill Cullen, hosted Hot Streak in the US briefly) is the guest star in one of the episodes.
I'm sure someone will go over the guest list of all 24 episodes and find other tenuous links between shows and stars (Candice Bergen dated the friend of the brother of the grip of the original Match Game for a week in 1970!!!eleven!).
MSRP is...$39.99 <ding>
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Actually, it's easier than that. Candy's father hosted a game show and she was a contestant on one as well.
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[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' date=\'Aug 3 2005, 08:45 PM\']Next Tuesday (August 9th) The Muppet Show (Season 1) comes out on DVD...and it's about time! It includes outtakes and the pilot.[/quote]
Cannot wait! Unless I'm mistaken, the pilot, "Sex and Violence" has not been seen since it originally aired on network television back in the mid seventies. There's actually a second pilot, and it better be tucked into Season Two.
[quote name=\'JayDLewis\' date=\'Aug 3 2005, 08:45 PM\']I'm sure someone will go over the guest list of all 24 episodes and find other tenuous links between shows and stars (Candice Bergen dated the friend of the brother of the grip of the original Match Game for a week in 1970!!!eleven!).[/quote]
Jay jokes because he loves. In reality, MOST of the guest stars in that first season have some sort of game show connection. Even Charles Aznavour was a mystery guest on What's My Line?, and some of the guests (Florence Henderson, Rita Moreno, Phyllis Diller, Sandy Duncan, Vincent Price) have tons of game show experience.
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I'm looking forward to The Muppet Show as well. Of course, I've also been looking forward to the third and final season of The Greatest American Hero, even though it was the season two premiere of said show which had a game show personality on it. Can you name her?
(Hmm, I don't recall William Katt ever doing a game show, but Robert Culp starred in I Spy with Bill Cosby, who later hosted You Bet Your Life...nah, I digress.)
Speaking of our favorite Jell-O pudding spokesman, The Cosby Show just made its DVD debut yesterday. So technically, it's on-topic, moreso than GAH.
BTW, we shouldn't forget that Kermit the Frog has about as much game show experience as anyone listed above. In fact, Jim Henson was a guest on WML during the syndicated years and sang "Bein' Green" as Kermit.
So which of these two DVDs do I get? Well, since next weekend is triple-point Replay Days at Sam Goody, it looks like the answer is both.
EDIT: GAH creator Stephen J. Cannell co-produced Caesar's Challenge. So there you go.
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I pre-ordered mine on Amazon.com for $12 off the retail price back in early June; one of my all time favorite shows!!
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Did Guy Smiley ever appear on TMS?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Aug 4 2005, 12:24 AM\']Did Guy Smiley ever appear on TMS?
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No, but I think they did an E!THS about him...
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Aug 4 2005, 02:24 AM\']Did Guy Smiley ever appear on TMS?[/quote]
Serious answer to joke question (i.e., please don't "Whoosh" me.)
Henson and company were preposterously careful about keeping the world of TMS totally separate from Sesame Street, with the exception of Kermit, Henson's alter ego. I don't recall the two worlds connecting at all on the series, though I'm told that Ernie and Bert made cameos in the first season, and other characters showed up very rarely as well.
Various Sesame Street characters made cameos in all the Muppet films.
I'm looking forward to The Muppet Show as well. Of course, I've also been looking forward to the third and final season of The Greatest American Hero, even though it was the season two premiere of said show which had a game show personality on it. Can you name her?
That would be Markie Post. Early crushes tend to stay with you.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Aug 4 2005, 12:25 PM\']Henson and company were preposterously careful about keeping the world of TMS totally separate from Sesame Street, with the exception of Kermit, Henson's alter ego. I don't recall the two worlds connecting at all on the series, though I'm told that Ernie and Bert made cameos in the first season, and other characters showed up very rarely as well.
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Consider that confirmed--Ernie and Bert indeed made cameos (billed as guest stars).
I could've sworn that at one time or another Sam the American Eagle initally appeared on SESAME STREET, was dropped and then resurrected for TMS. Not totally sure on that one--anyone able to confirm or deny?
Doug -- and the countdown to 1400 continues
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Aug 4 2005, 09:25 AM\']Henson and company were preposterously careful about keeping the world of TMS totally separate from Sesame Street... I don't recall the two worlds connecting at all on the series, though I'm told that Ernie and Bert made cameos in the first season, and other characters showed up very rarely as well.
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Bert & Ernie were in episode two, the Connie Stevens episode. Big Bird also appeared in season three's Leslie Ugams episode, and a large number of "Sesame Street" characters appeared in season five's Marty Fledman episode.
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A closer connection to game shows: I didn't see it, but didn't Kermit appear as a panelist on TTTT'00?
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[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' date=\'Aug 5 2005, 02:09 PM\']A closer connection to game shows: I didn't see it, but didn't Kermit appear as a panelist on TTTT'00?[/quote]
Yup. Kermit's actually been on a bunch of game shows. Family Feud, What's My Line?, several incarnations of Squares. He appeared in the audience during a Celebrity Millionaire series. The story is that he really wanted to play, but the show was hampered by logistical concerns.
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Didn't his puppeteer appear in the ToC in Tom's first season?
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[quote name=\'vtown7\' date=\'Aug 5 2005, 03:50 PM\']Didn't his puppeteer appear in the ToC in Tom's first season?
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IIRC, there was no ToC in Tom's first season on Squares; the second season was the first one in which they had a ToC. Do you suppose that might be when you saw him?
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[quote name=\'Thad Dixon\' date=\'Aug 5 2005, 03:58 PM\']IIRC, there was no ToC in Tom's first season on Squares; the second season was the first one in which they had a ToC. Do you suppose that might be when you saw him?[/quote]
I'm not exactly sure of when it was myself (we have members who were there), but yes, Steve Whitmire was clearly visible amidst all the hoopla when Squares crowned their champion.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Aug 5 2005, 10:19 PM\'][quote name=\'Thad Dixon\' date=\'Aug 5 2005, 03:58 PM\']IIRC, there was no ToC in Tom's first season on Squares; the second season was the first one in which they had a ToC. Do you suppose that might be when you saw him?[/quote]
I'm not exactly sure of when it was myself (we have members who were there), but yes, Steve Whitmire was clearly visible amidst all the hoopla when Squares crowned their champion.
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The first TofC Squares had was in October 1999. THe week of shows had some of the cast of the then-current movie "Crazy in Alabama". If you want to call this week a TofC is debatable. It was essentially two contestants from the previous season competeing each day(first season had no returning champs), there were no semi-finals or finals. The only concession made was that the prizes in the bonus round were a smidge higher.
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The exact airdate of the show in question was May 2, 2003. And here is photographic proof from The Perfesser. (http://\"http://www.tvgameshows.net/jennythomas5-2-03.jpg\") Steve (Whitmire, not Beverly) is in the picture at the right over the contestant's shoulder, but you can't see Kermit.
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I realize now where I made my mistake; I meant to say fifth season (first 'season' of H2). My bad!
It's like I've erased the first four seasons from my memory... who was the centre square again?
Ryan ;)
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[quote name=\'vtown7\' date=\'Aug 6 2005, 07:49 AM\']I realize now where I made my mistake; I meant to say fifth season (first 'season' of H2). My bad!
It's like I've erased the first four seasons from my memory... who was the centre square again?
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Well, who was she, Bob Eubanks?
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Aug 8 2005, 03:45 PM\']Well, who was she, Bob Eubanks?
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You remind me of comedian George Wallace's explanation of how he got booked on Squares: "Because I'm makin' Whoopi!"
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I just ordered "The Muppet Show" Season 1 DVD set online. Really looking forward to seeing the show again. Here is a review of this set:
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/muppetshow-season1.html (http://\"http://www.ultimatedisney.com/muppetshow-season1.html\")
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[quote name=\'michaellinn\' date=\'Aug 8 2005, 10:48 PM\']http://www.ultimatedisney.com/muppetshow-season1.html (http://\"http://www.ultimatedisney.com/muppetshow-season1.html\")[/quote]
Interesting review, and helpful in a lot of ways, but the author sounds like a young person writing about the ancient history of 1976, and seems to suggest that no one today knows who Connie Stevens, Harvey Korman, Lena Horne or Ben Vereen are. He also seems a bit sketchy as to the concept of syndication, referring to the distribution of the show as "CBS and local stations".
It is a little surprising that the set isn't absolutely, totally complete, but a handful of missing musical numbers (five out of the entire season) isn't too big a disappointment.
You'll all have to excuse me now, I have a DVD set to get through. At long last, it's time to play the music. It's time to light the lights.
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Aug 9 2005, 07:25 PM\'][The reviewer] seems a bit sketchy as to the concept of syndication, referring to the distribution of the show as "CBS and local stations". [/quote]
He probably confused the CBS O&Os (which co-produced "The Muppet Show" with Henson and ITC) with the network itself; or, he might've confused this series with the later animated series, "Muppet Babies", which was on CBS (and later syndicated as reruns). As far as I know, the CBS network never carried "The Muppet Show".
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[quote name=\'rugrats1\' date=\'Aug 9 2005, 08:45 PM\']
He probably confused the CBS O&Os (which co-produced "The Muppet Show" with Henson and ITC) with the network itself; or, he might've confused this series with the later animated series, "Muppet Babies", which was on CBS (and later syndicated as reruns). As far as I know, the CBS network never carried "The Muppet Show".
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It never did.....Although WCBS (a CBS O&O of course) carried the show, as did WCAU (then CBS) in Philly....
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Aug 9 2005, 07:25 PM\'][quote name=\'michaellinn\' date=\'Aug 8 2005, 10:48 PM\']http://www.ultimatedisney.com/muppetshow-season1.html (http://\"http://www.ultimatedisney.com/muppetshow-season1.html\")[/quote]
Interesting review, and helpful in a lot of ways, but the author sounds like a young person writing about the ancient history of 1976, and seems to suggest that no one today knows who Connie Stevens, Harvey Korman, Lena Horne or Ben Vereen are. He also seems a bit sketchy as to the concept of syndication, referring to the distribution of the show as "CBS and local stations".
It is a little surprising that the set isn't absolutely, totally complete, but a handful of missing musical numbers (five out of the entire season) isn't too big a disappointment.
You'll all have to excuse me now, I have a DVD set to get through. At long last, it's time to play the music. It's time to light the lights.
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Matt, I agree with your thoughts. I'm a little disappointed that some of the eps are missing some small segments, especially Vincent Price's big musical number at the end of his episode, "You've Got a Friend." That's a classic Muppet moment, and it's a shame that it is not included in this DVD set. But most of the other missing segments aren't too big a deal. I watched the show every week when it was originally on. I was 12 back in 1976. It only seems like yesterday! Enjoy the Muppets, Matt. I know that I will--and am waiting patiently for my set to arrive in the mail.
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In my area, "The Muppet Show" was on Friday nights at 7:30pm opposite "The $25,000 Pyramid," so these DVDs will be new to me. :)
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[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Aug 9 2005, 07:25 PM\'][quote name=\'michaellinn\' date=\'Aug 8 2005, 10:48 PM\']http://www.ultimatedisney.com/muppetshow-season1.html (http://\"http://www.ultimatedisney.com/muppetshow-season1.html\")[/quote]
Interesting review, and helpful in a lot of ways, but the author sounds like a young person writing about the ancient history of 1976, and seems to suggest that no one today knows who Connie Stevens, Harvey Korman, Lena Horne or Ben Vereen are. He also seems a bit sketchy as to the concept of syndication, referring to the distribution of the show as "CBS and local stations".
It is a little surprising that the set isn't absolutely, totally complete, but a handful of missing musical numbers (five out of the entire season) isn't too big a disappointment.
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Which means that the set may not have the longer British versions of the episodes, some of which have been shown on the TNT and Nick repeat runs. They're usually noticed by the fact that the credit crawl is British style, with the writers first and producer and director last and fewer tech credits--the Muppeteers are listed as "The Muppet People" and ATV house bandleader Jack Parnell is listed right below the Muppeteers (as "Jack Parnell and His Orchestra"), while he's buried in the middle of the U.S. version credits. There's also no "produced with the CBS-Owned Stations" credit on the British version--but after he acquired Grade's rights on the series, Henson still replaced the "ATV Colour Production for ITC World Wide Distribution" graphics after Statler and Waldorf's parting shots with a copyright notice showing Jim Henson Productions at the copyright owner instead of ITC.
ObGameShow: Bruce Forsyth was a "Muppet Show" guest star. Didn't he do well?
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Aug 10 2005, 11:25 AM\']ObGameShow: Bruce Forsyth was a "Muppet Show" guest star. Didn't he do well?
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It was nice to see him, and to see him was nice.
I wish I could've seen more Muppet Show when I was little. This may not be a bad DVD to pick up.
Brandon Brooks
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Aug 10 2005, 12:25 PM\']Which means that the set may not have the longer British versions of the episodes, some of which have been shown on the TNT and Nick repeat runs. They're usually noticed by the fact that the credit crawl is British style, with the writers first and producer and director last and fewer tech credits--the Muppeteers are listed as "The Muppet People" and ATV house bandleader Jack Parnell is listed right below the Muppeteers (as "Jack Parnell and His Orchestra"), while he's buried in the middle of the U.S. version credits. [/quote]
All the episodes do include the British segments. In the episodes I've watched so far I've seen both credit rolls, so I'm not sure what the logic is behind those.
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[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Aug 10 2005, 11:25 AM\']There's also no "produced with the CBS-Owned Stations" credit on the British version--but after he acquired Grade's rights on the series, Henson still replaced the "ATV Colour Production for ITC World Wide Distribution" graphics after Statler and Waldorf's parting shots with a copyright notice showing Jim Henson Productions at the copyright owner instead of ITC.
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When I watched The Muppet Show when it first came on in 1976, Statler & Wardorf's final words were followed by the "ATV Colour" logo, then the ITC logo, then the animated ITC logo. When the show came back in 1977 (and all episodes afterward), S&W was followed by the Muppet band with no logo, then "From ITC Entertainment" on the last note, with no animated ITC logo at the close.
It was later on when the shows became available on cable and video that the ITC references were replaced with Henson's.
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Maybe a bit nit-picky, but I'm wondering exactly where the original air dates come from. With most syndicated shows in the '70s, these episodes were likely bicycled, meaning the air dates were different in every city. In my home edition of TVGuide, there were three different stations that aired it each week and each aired a different episode. Also, two of the air dates on the site were Oct 9, and 11 1976, which seems unlikely.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Aug 16 2005, 02:14 PM\']Maybe a bit nit-picky, but I'm wondering exactly where the original air dates come from. With most syndicated shows in the '70s, these episodes were likely bicycled, meaning the air dates were different in every city. In my home edition of TVGuide, there were three different stations that aired it each week and each aired a different episode. Also, two of the air dates on the site were Oct 9, and 11 1976, which seems unlikely.[/quote]
I'm not sure where the reviewer on the site got his dates. On the DVD, a great bonus feature is a text commentary running through each episode. Each commentary begins by telling the date that the show was produced, and the date that it aired in NYC.