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Commonly, we all complain about the lousy job that contestant cordinators do these days in picking their contestants. What show do you think does the worst?
My nod would have to go to the staff at "Wheel".
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Lingo ;-)
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I'll just state the obvious and say everything but Jeopardy!
Seriously, if I had to pick ONE.... Feud.
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It's a little hard to define "worst." Yeah, I'd say Wheel has the dumbest contestants, but Feud has the most grating ones (thanks in part to Richard's act).
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Gotta go with the Feud for some of the worst and funniest answers in genre history. But, "A Group of Pill Pushers" on Wheel isn't far from the top spot.
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Gotta go with Lingo, too many one sided matches.
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I agree with those who vote for Wheel. If the contestants become any more robotic, Pat will start to call them by their serial numbers, ala "Jeopardy 1999" on SNL.
Feud is a close second. Somewhere in the contestant audition rules, there must be a requirement that families who make the show must dance to all music cues but cannot clap in synch with the music cues.
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Without a doubt, "Kenny Vs. Spenny."
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I'll go with the Feud simply because there's hardly a week that goes by where an outrageous answer may show up either in the main game or the Fast Money Round.
Wheel comes very close in that category. I'm not sure if I really want to root for a particular player these days based on their puzzle solving abilities.
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[quote name=\'Craig Karlberg\' date=\'Sep 19 2005, 03:25 AM\']I'll go with the Feud simply because there's hardly a week that goes by where an outrageous answer may show up either in the main game or the Fast Money Round.[/quote]
Right...because Richard Dawson never dealt with an outrageous answer on a regular basis. What month are we in again?
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' date=\'Sep 18 2005, 08:50 PM\']
Feud is a close second. Somewhere in the contestant audition rules, there must be a requirement that families who make the show must dance to all music cues but cannot clap in synch with the music cues.
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Bob Israel said in an interview in the 1/87 issue of TV Game SHow Magazine that Goodson did a little dance and air banjo to the original Feud theme.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Sep 19 2005, 08:05 AM\']Bob Israel said in an interview in the 1/87 issue of TV Game SHow Magazine that Goodson did a little dance and air banjo to the original Feud theme.
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Not quite yet.
It's only Monday, give him some time.
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Easily, the worst is Lingo. ;-P
Feud (American version) comes in a VERY close second. I can actually tolerate the Wheel contestants much better than those on the Feud.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Sep 19 2005, 08:05 AM\']Bob Israel said in an interview in the 1/87 issue of TV Game SHow Magazine that Goodson did a little dance and air banjo to the original Feud theme.
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Pray tell me, Zack, how a 1987 interview regarding Mark Goodson relates to modern-day, 21st Century Karn Feud, unless Goodson is still alive and kicking and running the program from his 6' subterranean office at Forest Lawn?!???
Wow.
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[quote name=\'jdhernandez\' date=\'Sep 19 2005, 06:08 PM\']Feud (American version) comes in a VERY close second. I can actually tolerate the Wheel contestants much better than those on the Feud.
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I honestly don't see what's so bad about the Wheel contestants, except that they sometimes make a dumb guess. I think the Feud contestants are a little more annoying, and are much louder than the people on Wheel. But that's just the environment of the whole show. (cue obligatory "D0UBL3 TH3 P01NTS!!!!11!!!!!" joke)
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I dunno. I've wondered about too many TPIR contestants.
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[quote name=\'TimK2003\' date=\'Sep 19 2005, 04:16 PM\'][quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Sep 19 2005, 08:05 AM\']Bob Israel said in an interview in the 1/87 issue of TV Game SHow Magazine that Goodson did a little dance and air banjo to the original Feud theme.
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Pray tell me, Zack, how a 1987 interview regarding Mark Goodson relates to modern-day, 21st Century Karn Feud, unless Goodson is still alive and kicking and running the program from his 6' subterranean office at Forest Lawn?!???
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Don't be slammin Zach on this one. The imagery makes it worthwhile.
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[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Sep 19 2005, 08:08 PM\']I honestly don't see what's so bad about the Wheel contestants, except that they sometimes make a dumb guess.[/quote]
I think the Wheel contestants' faults are magnified because their lapses in common sense aren't just annoying to the viewer (like on Feud most of the time), but are also costing them thousands upon thousands of dollars.
If you figure out the puzzle during the speed-up round, and you're not spending every second until it's your turn again figuring out which unrevealed letter appears most often in the puzzle, you look duuuuumb. To me, anyway.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Sep 19 2005, 11:15 PM\'][quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Sep 19 2005, 08:08 PM\']I honestly don't see what's so bad about the Wheel contestants, except that they sometimes make a dumb guess.[/quote]
I think the Wheel contestants' faults are magnified because their lapses in common sense aren't just annoying to the viewer (like on Feud most of the time), but are also costing them thousands upon thousands of dollars.
If you figure out the puzzle during the speed-up round, and you're not spending every second until it's your turn again figuring out which unrevealed letter appears most often in the puzzle, you look duuuuumb. To me, anyway.
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I can't figure out why in the world contestants have to shout out their letters.
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[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Sep 20 2005, 05:22 AM\']I can't figure out why in the world contestants have to shout out their letters.
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Because they are told to.
Brandon Brooks
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[quote name=\'Brandon Brooks\' date=\'Sep 20 2005, 08:22 AM\'][quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Sep 20 2005, 05:22 AM\']I can't figure out why in the world contestants have to shout out their letters.
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Because they are told to.
Brandon Brooks
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Maybe I should have made myself more clear.
What is the purpose of making them shout?
Doesn't make sense to do it just to do it.
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A) helps create an artificial sense of excitement, and
B) their large viewing audience ages 67 and up are hard of hearing... ;-)
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[quote name=\'The Ol' Guy\' date=\'Sep 20 2005, 07:48 AM\']A) helps create an artificial sense of excitement, and
B) their large viewing audience ages 67 and up are hard of hearing... ;-)
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I will defer to anyone who has seen Wheel's contestant coordinators in action, but my guess would be that they're telling the contestants to say their letters loud and clear (Pat asking for a repeat is not good TV), and some of them fixate on the "loud" part. You'll notice a lot of them quiet down some after a commercial break.
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[quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Sep 20 2005, 09:10 PM\'][...] my guess would be that they're telling the contestants to say their letters loud and clear (Pat asking for a repeat is not good TV), and some of them fixate on the "loud" part. You'll notice a lot of them quiet down some after a commercial break.[/quote]
You are absolutely correct on all counts, sir.
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[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' date=\'Sep 21 2005, 12:06 AM\'][quote name=\'Robert Hutchinson\' date=\'Sep 20 2005, 09:10 PM\'][...] my guess would be that they're telling the contestants to say their letters loud and clear (Pat asking for a repeat is not good TV), and some of them fixate on the "loud" part. You'll notice a lot of them quiet down some after a commercial break.[/quote]
You are absolutely correct on all counts, sir.
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I suspect some of the remote locations are huge and have lousy acoustics as well, so it helps the studio audience out to shout out loud.
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[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Sep 18 2005, 03:45 PM\']Commonly, we all complain about the lousy job that contestant cordinators do these days in picking their contestants. What show do you think does the worst?
My nod would have to go to the staff at "Wheel".
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Too bad you're not talking about past shows, Mark. Or else, I'd go with TJW 70s/80s, because as much as I like that show, as an 8 year old, I got questions right that those idiots couldn't. But to stay on topic, I must agree and say WoF.
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Right now, all I can think of is Penn Jillette on the last week of "H2" when Fern and Bobby the contestant bookers were the contestants:
"SMILE! SMILE! ENERGY! ENERGY! BIG SMILE! BIG SMILE!"
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Watching the current version of Who Wants to be a Millionaire shows how much I miss the classic 1999-2000 edition.
I understand that personality and energy are most important in picking contestants who have passed the (admittedly hard at times) quiz. However, the one thing that made the ABC version great was that contestants also had to have a good degree of SKILL.
The contestants on this version come up with some witless banter when arriving at an answer, end up bombing out at the first tier, or do not even ATTEMPT to hit the five-figure mark. In my honest opinion, I get a more negative vibe on the show than I did when ABC did it (right).
I know what most of you are saying: the above happened when ABC did it as well. I agree, but the lack of the Fastest Finger, which brought out the $125K and up players, is surely showing out this year...these events (again, in my opinion) are happening more often than it should. I keep asking myself, "Who screens these people?" when I really should not be.
I'm sorry, but this is what I see.
The Inquisitive One
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I know what most of you are saying: the above happened when ABC did it as well. I agree, but the lack of the Fastest Finger, which brought out the $125K and up players, is surely showing out this year...these events (again, in my opinion) are happening more often than it should. I keep asking myself, "Who screens these people?" when I really should not be.
Might explain why we haven't had a $1M winner in 2 1/2 yrs, as well.
Chuck Donegan (The Illustrious "Chuckie Baby")
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As a producer what would you rather have-smart but unphotogenic people who break your budget, or attractive people who take forever to win a grand?
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Might explain why we haven't had a $1M winner in 2 1/2 yrs, as well.
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Put an asterisk next to that as Bob-O Essig did win a million on Super Millionaire
in February 2004, but he only had to answer twelve questions to win it due to the upgraded money levels.
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[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 09:07 AM\']Put an asterisk next to that as Bob-O Essig did win a million on Super Millionaire
in February 2004, but he only had to answer twelve questions to win it due to the upgraded money levels.
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Only 12, yes, but don't compare the questions on Super Millionaire to the questions on the regular show. The upper level questions on SM, at least through my eyes, were harder questions than they are on the normal show. Not saying the normal show upper level questions are pieces of cake either, but the level of difficulty wasn't as high. If you were gonna win the top prize, you were really gonna have to work for it, moreso than you normally would.
But then again, Zach is the only person in the world who actually thinks that the Perfesser is right when he says that celebs should play for home viewers rather than charities, so why am I not surprised?
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[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Sep 28 2005, 07:47 AM\']As a producer what would you rather have-smart but unphotogenic people who break your budget, or attractive people who take forever to win a grand?
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As the person who has to sign the checks--I'd rather have the dumb clods who continually win $1,000--hey...more money for me to take the wifey out to Sarritino's for supper. At the same time; I'd realize that people who only win $1,000 on a show with "Millionaire" in the title doesn't necessairly make good TV.
That's why you have balance, some "unattractive" folk who are good game players, and some "attractive" folk who aren't. I'm not saying that being smart/unattractive and dumb/attractive is mutually exclusive, because they're not; but, at least to me, that's how it comes off on TV.
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I would hope that attractiveness wouldn't matter. I would rather watch someone who is having fun with the game, interacting with the host and who is genial in victory or defeat, rather than worrying about whether someone would win a beauty contest.
One of the things I like about the daily Millionaire is that $25,000 is not a foregone conclusion, as opposed to the nighttime show, where if you employed your lifelines properly, you were guaranteed $125,000. It is interesting to watch people struggle with the questions, debate whether to use a lifeline, or which one.
I would gladly pay out $250,000 to a good player if it's good for the show, dullard or not.
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There's two basic reasons why I don't watch Millionaire anymore:
1) There hasn't been a big winner in 40 forevers and I'm guessing it'll be about 50 more before we see the next $1,000,000 win looking at what kind of contestants they're putting up there.
2) The two Millionaire airings here in Gadsden are at the same time as Super Password and Card Sharks on GSN. :P
Back to the original topic, I'd say that the worst contestants are all from reality shows. There's always one or two people in that house/island/race-around-the-world that just bite at your last nerve and screw up the whole show for the other contestants, and usually the viewers, who for some reason or another keep watching in agony while that one obnoxious idiot goes and sucks all the fun out of the show. Anyone else notice this, or am I crazy? Well, I guess that one's too obvious, but still... am I right?
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1) There hasn't been a big winner in 40 forevers and I'm guessing it'll be about 50 more before we see the next $1,000,000 win looking at what kind of contestants they're putting up there.
How many people here are annoyed that there hasn't been a big winner in so long? Personally, it doesn't really bother me. I think most of us would agree that a million dollars is a life-changing amount of money -- winning it should be hard. If it's given away too often, it lessens the significance, IMHO. Having said that, I think they should go back to having some sort of phone competition to allow Mr and Mrs Joe Average to be contestants, rather than people they pre-select.
Are there any other shows that have gone on so long without a big jackpot winner? The only other one I can think of is "Greed", which never had anybody win the top prize.
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[quote name=\'Ian Wallis\' date=\'Sep 30 2005, 08:00 AM\']
Are there any other shows that have gone on so long without a big jackpot winner? The only other one I can think of is "Greed", which never had anybody win the top prize.
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No one won the top prize on Eubanks CS, although a few people did win the lions' share of the $32K max.
How long did it take for the Super Bonus stunt on the 50s Beat the Clock to hit $64K? Was it as least as long as Greed's run(eight months)?