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Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: chris319 on October 24, 2005, 04:34:22 PM
Be sure to watch today's (Monday 10/24) edition of The Insider for news about Holly Hallstrom and her legal action involving The Price Is Right.

The Insider is hosted by Pat O'Brien.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: FOXSportsFan on October 24, 2005, 05:26:31 PM
Or as his peeps call him, the Notorious P.O.B., HOLLA!
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: joe_capitano on October 24, 2005, 06:04:12 PM
Holly appeared on the Today Show this morning as well. The segment can be found on today.msnbc.com (#4 on Monday's video list - click the right arrow three times and you should see a familiar face).

By the way, she is a tad chunkier than she once was, but to me she still looks like a million bucks.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: chris319 on October 24, 2005, 06:15:54 PM
I am  totally rooting for Holly. For Barker to sue her after dumping her from the show tells you what kind of guy Bob Barker is.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on October 24, 2005, 06:24:30 PM
Where did NBC get the footage from?  I guess I'm not sure why Freemantle Media would provide them with footage for a negative segment on a competitor's network.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: clemon79 on October 24, 2005, 06:36:04 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 24 2005, 03:15 PM\']I am  totally rooting for Holly. For Barker to sue her after dumping her from the show tells you what kind of guy Bob Barker is.
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Nothin' to root for, she says in the piece that the settlement check (whose value she would not divulge, save to confirm that it was in "millions") cleared last week. She's already a winner. :)
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 24 2005, 03:24 PM\']Where did NBC get the footage from?  I guess I'm not sure why Freemantle Media would provide them with footage for a negative segment on a competitor's network.
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I'm sure all of that came from file footage. Once you have footage, you have footage, it's not like you have to pay for it to use it again. I'm sure they got that file way back for some kind of story (or it just came down as file, for any number of reasons), at the time Fremantle gave it up willingly, and now they're getting it on the back end. Betcha any money it was fed when Barker got his Walk Of Fame star, or when they were hyping his birthday, or the renaming of 33.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: HYHYBT on October 24, 2005, 07:04:44 PM
This is a really stupid question, but what was the suit about?
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: clemon79 on October 24, 2005, 07:17:38 PM
[quote name=\'HYHYBT\' date=\'Oct 24 2005, 04:04 PM\']This is a really stupid question, but what was the suit about?
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Only a little stupid in that all would have been told if you went to the link and watched the piece, but I could see where for any number of reasons you might not be able to, so: During the whole Dian Parkinson fiasco, Holly claims that Barker asked her to do interviews and such saying what a swell guy he was and that he would never do anything like that and Dian was a liar, and Holly refused. Barker then fired her, citing weight-gain issues from a medication she was taking at the time. She sued for wrongful termination, he counteresued for slander and defamation of character.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: urbanpreppie05 on October 24, 2005, 08:03:18 PM
Good for her!

Now here's hoping we can move on and enjoy the show.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: Don Howard on October 24, 2005, 08:48:07 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 24 2005, 03:34 PM\']The Insider is hosted by Pat O'Brien.
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And he's wonderful in it....especially if one is watching while taking a bubble bath.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on October 24, 2005, 08:49:59 PM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Oct 24 2005, 07:48 PM\']And he's wonderful in it....especially if one is watching while taking a bubble bath.
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The mental images....they hurt....my head...
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: chris319 on October 25, 2005, 03:01:02 AM
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' date=\'Oct 24 2005, 05:48 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 24 2005, 03:34 PM\']The Insider is hosted by Pat O'Brien.
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And he's wonderful in it....especially if one is watching while taking a bubble bath.
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Visions of Jimmy Joe Jeeter.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: chris319 on October 25, 2005, 03:29:21 AM
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She sued for wrongful termination, he counteresued for slander and defamation of character.
It's acutally the other way around. Barker brought the slander suit first and she countersued for wrongful termination.

In my opinion, Holly going around saying she was fired for being overweight is not sufficiently damaging to Barker's reputation to merit a judgement for defamation. It may put a chink in Barker's gargantuan ego but it is not the stuff of defamation awards. If Barker had swallowed and not brought his suit, maybe Holly wouldn't have brought the countersuit in which she prevailed. My opinion: Barker's ego has cost the defendants an amount in the upper seven figures.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: clemon79 on October 25, 2005, 11:44:13 AM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 12:29 AM\']It's acutally the other way around. Barker brought the slander suit first and she countersued for wrongful termination.
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Okay. That was how she couched it in the Today interview, that she sued and he countersued. I sit corrected.
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Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: Johnissoevil on October 25, 2005, 02:42:11 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 03:29 AM\']
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She sued for wrongful termination, he counteresued for slander and defamation of character.
It's acutally the other way around. Barker brought the slander suit first and she countersued for wrongful termination.

In my opinion, Holly going around saying she was fired for being overweight is not sufficiently damaging to Barker's reputation to merit a judgement for defamation. It may put a chink in Barker's gargantuan ego but it is not the stuff of defamation awards. If Barker had swallowed and not brought his suit, maybe Holly wouldn't have brought the countersuit in which she prevailed. My opinion: Barker's ego has cost the defendants an amount in the upper seven figures.
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I don't understand how Goodson cancelled Feud and threw Dawson in the trash after just 9 years, yet he had someone like Barker working for him for the last 20 freaking years of his life.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: clemon79 on October 25, 2005, 02:56:12 PM
[quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 11:42 AM\']I don't understand how Goodson cancelled Feud and threw Dawson in the trash after just 9 years, yet he had someone like Barker working for him for the last 20 freaking years of his life.
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My guess would be that Barker wasn't an asshat for most of that. The vibe I get is that the extreme egoism didn't really start kicking in until the early- to mid-90's or so, and by the time it did, Goodson/Fremantle/Whoever couldn't afford to be rid of him, so they just deal with it.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: chris319 on October 25, 2005, 05:04:05 PM
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I don't understand how Goodson cancelled Feud
Why would a packager cancel his own show?
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: uncamark on October 25, 2005, 06:09:23 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 01:56 PM\'][quote name=\'Johnissoevil\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 11:42 AM\']I don't understand how Goodson cancelled Feud and threw Dawson in the trash after just 9 years, yet he had someone like Barker working for him for the last 20 freaking years of his life.
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My guess would be that Barker wasn't an asshat for most of that. The vibe I get is that the extreme egoism didn't really start kicking in until the early- to mid-90's or so, and by the time it did, Goodson/Fremantle/Whoever couldn't afford to be rid of him, so they just deal with it.
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I have the feeling that the ego was always there, considering that I had heard that he politicked (with Barbara Hunter of CBS in his corner) to get the EP title after Frank Wayne's death.  It's just become more pronounced over time, especially as the show became his own private duchy.  It's hard to be a real asshat when Goodson's still in charge, Frank Wayne's your immediate boss and your show is just one of many others under the same roof at 6430 Sunset (and not even the top performer amongst them).  But when the shows drop off one-by-one, Goodson dies and the folks at the network and parent company become more solicitious...
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on October 25, 2005, 06:48:36 PM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 04:04 PM\']Why would a packager cancel his own show?
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To let a newer, better show replace it.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: clemon79 on October 25, 2005, 07:39:00 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 03:48 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 04:04 PM\']Why would a packager cancel his own show?
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To let a newer, better show replace it.
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*boggle*
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: BrandonFG on October 25, 2005, 07:58:58 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 05:48 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 04:04 PM\']Why would a packager cancel his own show?
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To let a newer, better show replace it.
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And in 1985, that show was? Rhetorical, Zach, sit down.

And no, it wasn't Boggle. ;-)
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: jmangin on October 25, 2005, 08:20:31 PM
[quote name=\'clemon79\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 07:39 PM\']*boggle*
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Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: whewfan on October 25, 2005, 08:52:33 PM
For the record, Goodson did not axe Feud... low ratings did. A certain show with a spinning wheel hosted by a former weatherman knocked Feud out of the number 1 slot.

According to E! THS, Goodson did consider replacing Richard after the 1980 season. Richard was vacationing in Hawaii, and he threatened to stay in Hawaii unless he got a major raise, and control over whether to bring back families that lost unfairly. ABC, however, granted Richard what he wanted.

As for Holly and Bob, I wonder, if they find that Holly is telling the truth, and that perhaps Bob did sexually harass Dian, could that mean that Dian could sue Bob again?
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: CarShark on October 26, 2005, 12:31:49 AM
[quote name=\'whewfan\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 07:52 PM\']As for Holly and Bob, I wonder, if they find that Holly is telling the truth, and that perhaps Bob did sexually harass Dian, could that mean that Dian could sue Bob again?[/quote]I don't think so. That would be double jeopardy.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: chris319 on October 26, 2005, 01:54:54 AM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 03:48 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 04:04 PM\']Why would a packager cancel his own show?
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To let a newer, better show replace it.
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Lordy sakes alive! What planet do you guys come from?
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on October 26, 2005, 02:20:42 AM
[quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 12:54 AM\']Lordy sakes alive! What planet do you guys come from?
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Merv Griffin...Jeopardy-->Wheel of Fortune
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: chris319 on October 26, 2005, 02:34:48 AM
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I have the feeling that the ego was always there, considering that I had heard that he politicked (with Barbara Hunter of CBS in his corner) to get the EP title after Frank Wayne's death. It's just become more pronounced over time, especially as the show became his own private duchy. It's hard to be a real asshat when Goodson's still in charge, Frank Wayne's your immediate boss and your show is just one of many others under the same roof at 6430 Sunset (and not even the top performer amongst them). But when the shows drop off one-by-one, Goodson dies and the folks at the network and parent company become more solicitious...
I have written here that Barker used to be so uninvolved with the show that he didn't even attend game development meetings (I don't know if he was even invited). I find great irony in the fact that the producers of Match Game and others in the company who had nothing whatsoever to do with TPIR would attend and present games and Barker was nowhere around. Then, within the space of a little over a year, Frank missed the deadline for submitting an episode of the show to the TV Academy which cost Barker a shot at an Emmy, and Dorothy Jo passed away. From then on Barker started taking a more active interest in the production of the show, eventually succeeding in getting Marc Breslow thrown off. Then he started boinking Dian, a lawsuit ensued, and he got a bit part in Happy Gilmore. The next thing you know he has visibility as Letterman starts doing jokes about him nailing the models, and his ego becomes distended to the point where it shows up in satellite photos. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Barker was salivating at the prospect of becoming E.P. long before Frank (who had a heart condition) passed away.

If the allegations about Barker in various court documents are true, I don't know why he isn't sitting in jail right now for suborning perjury.

(Legal disclaimer: All of the above is my personal OPINION.)
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: chris319 on October 26, 2005, 02:39:58 AM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 11:20 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 12:54 AM\']Lordy sakes alive! What planet do you guys come from?
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Merv Griffin...Jeopardy-->Wheel of Fortune
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Oh, that explains it. (ROLLS EYES AND BOGGLES)
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: BrandonFG on October 26, 2005, 03:30:52 AM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 01:20 AM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 12:54 AM\']Lordy sakes alive! What planet do you guys come from?
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Merv Griffin...Jeopardy-->Wheel of Fortune
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If I'm not mistaken, didn't NBC cancel J!, but gave him a deal where he could create a new show for the network ("Wheel")?
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: chris319 on October 26, 2005, 06:44:23 AM
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 12:30 AM\'][quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 01:20 AM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 12:54 AM\']Lordy sakes alive! What planet do you guys come from?
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If I'm not mistaken, didn't NBC cancel J!, but gave him a deal where he could create a new show for the network ("Wheel")?
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In those days you didn't need a deal to develop a show. They may have given him development money for Wheel but it was likely after they saw the concept.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: sshuffield70 on October 26, 2005, 10:33:30 AM
[quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 11:31 PM\'][quote name=\'whewfan\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 07:52 PM\']As for Holly and Bob, I wonder, if they find that Holly is telling the truth, and that perhaps Bob did sexually harass Dian, could that mean that Dian could sue Bob again?[/quote]I don't think so. That would be double jeopardy.
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Not applicable in civil cases.  Only applies to criminal cases.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: CarShark on October 26, 2005, 01:25:52 PM
[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 09:33 AM\'][quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 11:31 PM\'][quote name=\'whewfan\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 07:52 PM\']As for Holly and Bob, I wonder, if they find that Holly is telling the truth, and that perhaps Bob did sexually harass Dian, could that mean that Dian could sue Bob again?[/quote]I don't think so. That would be double jeopardy.[/quote]

Not applicable in civil cases.  Only applies to criminal cases.[/quote]Gotcha.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: AH3RD on October 26, 2005, 02:35:59 PM
[quote name=\'Modor\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 05:48 PM\'][quote name=\'chris319\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 04:04 PM\']Why would a packager cancel his own show?
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Isn't that what networks do?
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: uncamark on October 26, 2005, 05:40:42 PM
[quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 09:33 AM\'][quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 11:31 PM\'][quote name=\'whewfan\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 07:52 PM\']As for Holly and Bob, I wonder, if they find that Holly is telling the truth, and that perhaps Bob did sexually harass Dian, could that mean that Dian could sue Bob again?[/quote]I don't think so. That would be double jeopardy.
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But there are still two Daily Doubles on the board.  [ducking]
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: SRIV94 on October 26, 2005, 05:47:40 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 04:40 PM\']But there are still two Daily Doubles on the board.  [ducking]
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C'mon, Mark--that's a joke I would do (I managed to show remarkable restraint in not doing it).  You're better than that.  :)

Doug
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: dzinkin on October 26, 2005, 08:30:15 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 05:40 PM\'][quote name=\'sshuffield70\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 09:33 AM\'][quote name=\'CarShark\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 11:31 PM\'][quote name=\'whewfan\' date=\'Oct 25 2005, 07:52 PM\']As for Holly and Bob, I wonder, if they find that Holly is telling the truth, and that perhaps Bob did sexually harass Dian, could that mean that Dian could sue Bob again?[/quote]I don't think so. That would be double jeopardy.
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But there are still two Daily Doubles on the board.  [ducking]
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But are they true Daily Doubles, Mark?  [diving for cover]
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: PYLdude on October 26, 2005, 08:55:46 PM
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*fires wildly* DIE, BAD JOKES, DIE!
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: Kevin Prather on October 26, 2005, 09:46:01 PM
*fires wildly* DIE, BAD QUOTING, DIE!
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: PYLdude on October 26, 2005, 09:47:56 PM
[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 09:46 PM\']*fires wildly* DIE, BAD QUOTING, DIE!
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Alright, alright...I'll fix it. You happy?
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: Kevin Prather on October 26, 2005, 09:48:29 PM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 06:47 PM\'][quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 09:46 PM\']*fires wildly* DIE, BAD QUOTING, DIE!
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Alright, alright...I'll fix it. You happy?
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Uh...whoosh?

Teasing, man. Just teasing.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: PYLdude on October 26, 2005, 09:51:08 PM
[quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 09:48 PM\']Teasing, man. Just teasing.
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I know.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: Kevin Prather on October 26, 2005, 09:52:18 PM
[quote name=\'PYLdude\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 06:51 PM\'][quote name=\'whoserman\' date=\'Oct 26 2005, 09:48 PM\']Teasing, man. Just teasing.
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I know.
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Uh...right...

This moment never happened. :)
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: Luxo1 on November 01, 2005, 06:14:46 PM
She appeared today on "The View" (November 1st) -- have not seen her on other shows.....but sounds like she told the same story. Yes she is heavier, but she still looks great. She said that all the cases had been settled, but that the Linda Riegart (sp) case would go to trial.
Title: Holly Hallstrom News
Post by: davemackey on November 01, 2005, 09:09:49 PM
[quote name=\'Luxo1\' date=\'Nov 1 2005, 07:14 PM\']She appeared today on "The View" (November 1st) -- have not seen her on other shows.....but sounds like she told the same story. Yes she is heavier, but she still looks great. She said that all the cases had been settled, but that the Linda Riegart (sp) case would go to trial.
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Leave it to Holly to stick it to her former employers by appearing on a show that directly competes with them.