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Title: "The Best of Brett and Charles"
Post by: uncamark on February 01, 2006, 02:31:06 PM
Ten prime examples of the Bickersons in action described in this press release:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060131/latu120.html?.v=28 (http://\"http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060131/latu120.html?.v=28\")

I'll let the rest of you fill in the details on the episodes they're airing.
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Post by: melman1 on February 01, 2006, 07:31:12 PM
Can't say that I understand the need for this.  It's quite a stretch to say that any of these are really worthy of "Best Of" recognition - wasn't the "Bad Taste", "Worst Answer". etc. award given at least once a week?

The 1976 "western clothes" episode might be the one where Bill Anderson sang a tribute (of sorts) to Debralee Scott, with Brett and CNR singing backup (of sorts).  It's really not that funny without the backstory that, being the final episode of the week, everyone was probably pretty well in the bag.

For my money, I'd much prefer that they continue running MG74 in order.  They are about 1/3 of the way through the gap of 27 weeks that GSN skipped over last July.  At the present pace of 14 shows a week, they'd air the last skipped episode in mid-March... unless the 11 PM MG hour is dropped before then, as I thought I read it was going to be?
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Post by: Jay Temple on February 02, 2006, 01:36:04 PM
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What started as a guest appearance for Somers with her husband,
Minor quibble:  Either this was supposed to refer to a guest appearance on The Odd Couple, or they've misstated the circumstances of her first appearance on MG.  Klugman appeared on the premiere week, and Brett appeared the third week, but they were not together in her first appearance on the show (which recently aired).
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Post by: Don Howard on February 02, 2006, 02:33:04 PM
[quote name=\'Jay Temple\' date=\'Feb 2 2006, 01:36 PM\']Klugman appeared on the premiere week, and Brett appeared the third week, but they were not together in her first appearance on the show
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True this. Jack agreed to appear if he was promised his wife would be given a chance to be on the panel during a future week. At the time, Brett was about to begin a featured role on The New Perry Mason ("new" because the "old" one was solving crimes on another network) as Perry's secretary.
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Post by: SRIV94 on February 03, 2006, 10:51:47 AM
[quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Feb 1 2006, 06:31 PM\']At the present pace of 14 shows a week, they'd air the last skipped episode in mid-March... unless the 11 PM MG hour is dropped before then, as I thought I read it was going to be?
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Where do you think you saw that?  I haven't seen anything on that, but that doesn't mean it's not going to happen.

Doug -- and the countdown to 1800 continues
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Post by: The Pyramids on February 03, 2006, 07:15:24 PM
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Feb 3 2006, 10:51 AM\'][quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Feb 1 2006, 06:31 PM\']At the present pace of 14 shows a week, they'd air the last skipped episode in mid-March... unless the 11 PM MG hour is dropped before then, as I thought I read it was going to be?
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Where do you think you saw that?  I haven't seen anything on that, but that doesn't mean it's not going to happen.

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I was wondering of the 'Best Of' week is an indicator that the reruns are showing signs of life. But yes I thought 'I've Got A Secrert' is comming here  in April.

As an aside, if GSN really wanted to do a 70's hour bring out '20,000 Pyramid' or 'Tattletales'  etc. for a couple of weeks in the second half hour, or the entire hour for that matter.
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Post by: zachhoran on February 03, 2006, 07:28:19 PM
[quote name=\'PaulD\' date=\'Feb 3 2006, 07:15 PM\']

I was wondering of the 'Best Of' week is an indicator that the reruns are showing signs of life. But yes I thought 'I've Got A Secrert' is comming here  in April.

As an aside, if GSN really wanted to do a 70's hour bring out '20,000 Pyramid' or 'Tattletales'  etc. for a couple of weeks in the second half hour, or the entire hour for that matter.
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The IGAS revival is slated to air at 10PM EST I believe, not 11PM.
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Post by: melman1 on February 03, 2006, 07:52:25 PM
[quote name=\'SRIV94\' date=\'Feb 3 2006, 08:51 AM\']Where do you think you saw that?
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GSN, the network for games, is bringing back one of the most successful game shows of all-time, I'VE GOT A SECRET.  Premiering Monday, April 17 from 11:00-11:30 PM ET/PT,
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Post by: FeudDude on February 04, 2006, 11:53:01 PM
As if the slates and other extras seen on That 70s Hour weren't cool enough, GSN now has a That 70s Hour page (http://\"http://www.gsn.com/specific_page_elements.php?link_id=S83\") on their website, which includes an episode guide.  I have to give GSN praise for all this - they haven't given this much attention to a classic in a LONG time.

Anyway, the episode guide indicates that That 70s Hour will have its swan song on April 2, with episode 278 (taped on 7/26/74).   Is this the last of the skipped MG74 episodes?
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Post by: NickintheATL on February 05, 2006, 01:39:29 AM
I'm not so sure that we should consider That 70's Hour a placeholder. I mean, they went to all the trouble to air the slates and to have bumpers made just for that show. Seems to me like they put too much into a show that will translate into a placeholder.

One could assume that the new IGaS could air in a different timeslot, or That 70's Hour might move to a different timeslot.
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Post by: melman1 on February 05, 2006, 11:27:24 AM
[quote name=\'FeudDude\' date=\'Feb 4 2006, 09:53 PM\']Anyway, the episode guide indicates that That 70s Hour will have its swan song on April 2, with episode 278 (taped on 7/26/74).   Is this the last of the skipped MG74 episodes?
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The skipped episodes were #128 thru #260.  So barring any further preemptions, they should get through them all.  (It has only been in the last couple of weeks that the 70's Hour was aired 7 nights a week... before that it was often pre-empted for poker shows and such.)

However by my math, if the 70's Hour ended on April 2 and there are no further preemptions, they should get to episode #285.  (Last night was 182 and 183.)  I will have to look at their guide and see where the problem is.

Edited to add: Their guide also shows preemptions of the entire hour on 2/25, 3/2, 3/15, and 3/17; and preemption of the first half-hour only on 3/18.
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Post by: Queen of Nerdocrombesia on February 21, 2006, 12:29:34 AM
It seems that GSN has been kind enough to provide the slates for the "Brett vs. Charles" shows (at least the two on Monday), as they have so far for the MG74 in-sequence eps.

For the interested, here are Monday's episode numbers and VTR dates:
11:00p- MG76  #820  VTR 9-18-76
11:30p- MG78  #1228  VTR 4-29-78
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Post by: SRIV94 on February 21, 2006, 10:34:53 AM
[quote name=\'Queen of Nerdocrombesia\' date=\'Feb 20 2006, 11:29 PM\']11:30p- MG78  #1228  VTR 4-29-78
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Ah, yes, from the "Richard refuses to smile" week (I think this ep was two shows later).

Doug
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Post by: Queen of Nerdocrombesia on February 22, 2006, 11:03:16 AM
Here are Tuesday night's episode numbers and VTR dates:
11:00- MG75  #0471  VTR 5-5-75
11:30- MG74  #0277  VTR 7-26-74

In the 75 show, I saw a rule enforced that I really don't remember seeing before (or perhaps I had forgotten it).  After the contestant won the audience match, Gene told her that, since last time she did the head-to-head match with Richard, "the rule says you can't choose the same person twice", and she chose Brett instead.  How long did this rule last?  Was this the first attempt to stop everyone from constantly trying to match Richard, before the Star Wheel?
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Post by: melman1 on February 22, 2006, 11:33:28 AM
[quote name=\'Queen of Nerdocrombesia\' date=\'Feb 22 2006, 09:03 AM\']How long did this rule last?[/quote]
Four weeks, from #461 thru #480.  These episodes last aired Oct-Nov 2003.
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Was this the first attempt to stop everyone from constantly trying to match Richard, before the Star Wheel?
First and only, I believe.
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Post by: uncamark on February 22, 2006, 02:27:59 PM
[quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Feb 22 2006, 10:33 AM\'][quote name=\'Queen of Nerdocrombesia\' date=\'Feb 22 2006, 09:03 AM\']How long did this rule last?[/quote]
Four weeks, from #461 thru #480.  These episodes last aired Oct-Nov 2003.
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Was this the first attempt to stop everyone from constantly trying to match Richard, before the Star Wheel?
First and only, I believe.
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It was.

And that's two weeks longer than *I* thought it lasted.
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Post by: zachhoran on February 22, 2006, 07:04:01 PM
[quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Feb 22 2006, 10:33 AM\']
[quote name=\'Queen of Nerdocrombesia\' date=\'Feb 22 2006, 09:03 AM\']How long did this rule last?[/quote]
Four weeks, from #461 thru #480.  These episodes last aired Oct-Nov 2003.
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They might have retired that short-lived rule due to the possibility of someone matching all six celebs in the Head-to-Head and still not cracking the $25K CBS limit.
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Post by: Steve McClellan on February 22, 2006, 09:26:24 PM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Feb 22 2006, 04:04 PM\']They might have retired that short-lived rule due to the possibility of someone matching all six celebs in the Head-to-Head and still not cracking the $25K CBS limit.[/quote]
Um, no. The only person you couldn't pick is the one you picked the last game. If you picked Richard in your first head-to-head, you could pick him again for your third.

My guess is they retired the rule because it sucked.
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Post by: Jay Temple on February 23, 2006, 12:24:01 PM
The 75 show is the first MG episode I've seen that I can remember watching in its original broadcast, so evidently I had seen this rule before. I knew of the rule, but I didn't remember that I'd seen it until now.
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Post by: uncamark on February 23, 2006, 03:43:38 PM
[quote name=\'Steve McClellan\' date=\'Feb 22 2006, 08:26 PM\'][quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Feb 22 2006, 04:04 PM\']They might have retired that short-lived rule due to the possibility of someone matching all six celebs in the Head-to-Head and still not cracking the $25K CBS limit.[/quote]
Um, no. The only person you couldn't pick is the one you picked the last game. If you picked Richard in your first head-to-head, you could pick him again for your third.

My guess is they retired the rule because it sucked.
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And one might assume that the target of the rule change wasn't too happy about it, either.  How far he went over Ira's head, we'll never know.
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Post by: TLEberle on February 23, 2006, 08:48:41 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Feb 23 2006, 01:43 PM\']And one might assume that the target of the rule change wasn't too happy about it, either.  How far he went over Ira's head, we'll never know.
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Post by: zachhoran on February 23, 2006, 08:53:39 PM
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Feb 23 2006, 08:48 PM\'][quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Feb 23 2006, 01:43 PM\']And one might assume that the target of the rule change wasn't too happy about it, either.  How far he went over Ira's head, we'll never know.
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Richard was as you know a regular on MG7x from the beginning of the run, having been on every show from show one through Fall 1978 when he left the show. In the first year or so, Richard didn't seem to be picked every single time like was the case by 1975 when the short-lived rule change discussed in this thread took effect.
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Post by: TLEberle on February 23, 2006, 09:06:44 PM
[quote name=\'zachhoran\' date=\'Feb 23 2006, 06:53 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' date=\'Feb 23 2006, 08:48 PM\']I can imagine he'd be rightly pissed off. How did the Super Match end up being Richard's Round, anyway? He wasn't even a regularly at the beginning. The first person to pick him probably got lucky and won, but that's a far cry from "I'll pick Richard again, Gene" and so on.
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Richard was as you know a regular on MG7x from the beginning of the run, having been on every show from show one through Fall 1978 when he left the show.
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Post by: AH3RD on February 24, 2006, 10:21:26 AM
[quote name=\'Queen of Nerdocrombesia\' date=\'Feb 22 2006, 11:03 AM\']Here are Tuesday night's episode numbers and VTR dates:
11:00- MG75  #0471  VTR 5-5-75
11:30- MG74  #0277  VTR 7-26-74

In the 75 show, I saw a rule enforced that I really don't remember seeing before (or perhaps I had forgotten it).  After the contestant won the audience match, Gene told her that, since last time she did the head-to-head match with Richard, "the rule says you can't choose the same person twice", and she chose Brett instead.  How long did this rule last?  Was this the first attempt to stop everyone from constantly trying to match Richard, before the Star Wheel?
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They had episode numbers and VTR dates last night for MG75 and MG76 as well.
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Post by: zachhoran on February 24, 2006, 10:29:20 AM
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They had episode numbers and VTR dates last night for MG75 and MG76 as well.
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Seems to me they do it every night. And most of the nights I've caught an episode, GSN will throw it over to a break showing one of MG7x's famous "mixed face" ticket plugs(sans ticket address), which often will feature different celebs from the show they're airing at that point.
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Post by: Queen of Nerdocrombesia on February 25, 2006, 02:38:47 PM
Yeah, I know they've been doing slates ever since "That 70's Hour" started.  I had just been curious to know if they were going to give slates for the out-of-sequence shows for this week or not.  Finding out the obvious answer, I posted it for the benefit of all.  I just never got around to posting the slates for the other shows, partially because I wasn't sure if anyone that hadn't already taped them for themselves would want to know.  Also, I hadn't gotten around to it yet.

BTW, no 70's Hour tonight, but a 2-hour Amazing Race.
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Post by: biohazard on March 02, 2006, 04:11:49 AM
Another unexpected ad-lib from Johnny on the first of Tuesday's slates:

"There's two goodies down here that would like to blank you, Marc..."
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Post by: melman1 on March 06, 2006, 11:20:52 PM
To continue the "70's Hour" thread...
I realize the pathetic-ness of debating events from a 32-year-old game show, but has it ever been explained WHY Kaye Stevens was a semi-regular on MG74?  She's in the shows currently airing in the 70's Hour block, making a complete ass of herself.  Cackling pretty much continuously, and talking over everyone else.  You can really see how annoyed everyone was with her; however,  they left her mic wide open and apparently did not try to shut her up.  These shows are simply uncomfortable to watch.  And they invited her back THREE MORE TIMES?  Why?  IMDB shows her career at that time as being on "Days of Our Lives", an NBC soap- so she wasn't even a CBS personality.

This seems like a question that must have been discussed somewhere before so if an answer exists, I will be most grateful for it.
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Post by: clemon79 on March 06, 2006, 11:22:45 PM
[quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Mar 6 2006, 08:20 PM\']I realize the pathetic-ness of debating events from a 32-year-old game show, but has it ever been explained WHY Kaye Stevens was a semi-regular on MG74? 
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Wash's she on along with that Tom Lindstrom guy? They were some kind of item, they did a lot of TattleTales together. So maybe in order to get HIM, they had to deal with HER.
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Post by: melman1 on March 06, 2006, 11:31:03 PM
The name doesn't ring a bell.  Unless her being on MG was part of a deal for the pair to appear on TT?
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Post by: Jimmy Owen on March 08, 2006, 10:28:32 AM
This may seem hard to believe today, but panelists weren't always booked because they had something to promote.  I love Barbara Rhoades, but what of note did she do after "The Shakiest Gun in the West" in 1968?  Joyce Bulifant? Patti Deutsch?

I think the first time Kaye was on, they probably thought she was fun and bubbly, so they invited her back, maybe got a little too rambunctious and by the third time became annoying.  They do use her in the promo for the 70's hour, so GSN must not be too repelled.
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Post by: davemackey on March 08, 2006, 07:55:18 PM
Kaye Stevens was on "Days of our Lives" in 1974, so she definitely had something to promote.

Of course, Kaye was on that famous Show #229, which aired the other evening, complete with Karen Lesko and several thinly veiled references to her dimples and no sign of the "nipples" clip - which would have been just perfect for late night.
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Post by: Neumms on March 14, 2006, 01:50:15 PM
Kaye seemed to be involved in it when Burt Reynolds had his walk-on. That, or she was just flinging herself at him. She seems like an experiment worth trying and ending, and that's what she was.

I had always thought that MG had a much higher level of talent than Bob Stewart's shows, but I've discovered watching the early shows that, nah, MG wasn't exactly A-list either. Ann Elder? Yuck.
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Post by: Jimmy Owen on March 15, 2006, 07:38:26 AM
What so bad about Ann Elder?  I think a lot of you younger folks never saw the last couple seasons of "Laugh-In." (you know, the show with the guy from "Mindreaders.")  It's a virtual MG panel doing sketch comedy.

Some of the Laugh-In people (Richard Dawson, Patti D) caught on and some (Ann, Sarah Kennedy, Brill & McCall) weren't on after awhile.
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Post by: Neumms on March 15, 2006, 11:32:04 AM
[quote name=\'Jimmy Owen\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 07:38 AM\']What so bad about Ann Elder?  I think a lot of you younger folks never saw the last couple seasons of "Laugh-In." (you know, the show with the guy from "Mindreaders.") 
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I saw "Laugh-In." It's that kooky show where all the people hung out of those doors. (At least that's the part I liked at the ripe old age of 5!) And it has the guy who p'ed off Peter Marshall.

Ann Elder isn't funny, and the show stalls whenever the camera's on her. Was Stu Gillem (sp?) on "Laugh-In," too? He's not bad, but he's not a great mesh with the rest of the panel, either.

Is anyone else amused when Nipsey Russell sticks in a rhyme when it's not really called for and, as opposed to any other host, is openly disgusted?
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Post by: melman1 on March 17, 2006, 04:59:19 PM
[quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Feb 5 2006, 09:27 AM\']Their guide also shows preemptions of the entire hour on 2/25, 3/2, 3/15, and 3/17; and preemption of the first half-hour only on 3/18.
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They had been following the guide through the end of last week.  But 70's Hour was replaced by "Anything to Win" on Sunday 3/12 (Yahoo TV listings also show this on 3/19, so perhaps it is a permanent change).  It was also preempted on Tues. 3/14 by that "Press Your Luck" movie.

It still appears that they will make it through all of the episodes skipped last July by the last date in the episode guide of April 2nd, but it's not as certain as it had been.

Predictably, GSN hasn't updated the air dates in the guide so that data is now worthless.  Nor did they ever add anything after April 2nd so the future of the 70's Hour remains unclear.
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Post by: ChrisLambert! on March 18, 2006, 04:09:38 PM
[quote name=\'Neumms\' date=\'Mar 15 2006, 11:32 AM\']Ann Elder isn't funny, and the show stalls whenever the camera's on her. Was Stu Gillem (sp?) on "Laugh-In," too? He's not bad, but he's not a great mesh with the rest of the panel, either.
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Stu Gilliam was on Laugh-In very, very briefly. Not nearly as long as Byron Gilliam, who even pronounced his last name differently.

Ann Elder was the blonde they brought in to replace Goldie Hawn. Unfortunately, she didn't play dumb, and never created any other "character" to play (like fellow newcomers Nancie Phillipps The Kooky Psychic and Barbara Sharma the Tapdancing Spitfire).
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Post by: FeudDude on March 18, 2006, 08:10:40 PM
[quote name=\'melman1\' date=\'Mar 17 2006, 04:59 PM\']Predictably, GSN hasn't updated the air dates in the guide so that data is now worthless.  Nor did they ever add anything after April 2nd so the future of the 70's Hour remains unclear.
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Post by: Ian Wallis on March 19, 2006, 01:40:09 PM
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Was Stu Gillem (sp?) on "Laugh-In," too? He's not bad, but he's not a great mesh with the rest of the panel, either.


I think one of the reasons Stu Gilliam was on was because he had a show on CBS that fall, called "Roll Out".   It was cancelled in 13 weeks and we didn't hear much about him after that.  He did make several appearances on game shows from the late '60s ("Funny You Should Ask", for example) until the mid-70s.