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Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: tvwxman on February 11, 2006, 09:37:42 AM
scroll down, you'll find it.

http://www.playthings.com/article/CA6305096.html (http://\"http://www.playthings.com/article/CA6305096.html\")
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: Matt Ottinger on February 11, 2006, 10:06:07 AM
I've never heard of Irwin Toy before, but checking their website (http://\"http://www.irwintoy.com\") (where DoND isn't listed yet), they appear to be one of those companies that skirts around the edges of copyright infringement by giving new names to popular games ("Frustration" instead of "Trouble", "Inline" instead of "Connect Four", "Sea Battle" instead of "Battleship") with only the slightest modifications.  Strikes me as a little surprising that they'd be the ones to obtain rights to a super-hot property, when they could have just as easily made up their own version and called it "What's In The Suitcase?"
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: MikeK on February 11, 2006, 10:12:26 AM
How to save $35, the Klauss way.

1.  Get 26 security envelopes.
2.  Number them 1 to 26.
3.  Get 26 3x5 cards.
4.  Number them with the dollar values from the game.
5.  Have a third party shuffle the envelopes and dollar value cards, and insert the cards into the envelopes.
6.  Make each offer slightly above the median value.
7.  Borrow 26 dolls from your sister's/niece's/daughter's Barbie collection.  Dress them identically.
8.  Borrow the kid's Fisher Price My First Telephone.
9.  Do the fist knock with the contestant any time a low value is removed.  To be more like Howie, keep a gallon of Purel nearby.
10.  Say certain phrases in a slightly different voice, so it sounds like there were some comments edited in during post.
Items 7 through 10 are merely optional, but they give this home game some authenticity.

Ta da.  You can thank me later for saving you $35 apiece.

$35 times 1500 Invision members...HALLELUJAH, I think I found a way to pay off my student loans.
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: FOXSportsFan on February 11, 2006, 10:15:24 AM
[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Feb 11 2006, 10:12 AM\']How to save $35, the Klauss way.

1.  Get 26 security envelopes.
2.  Number them 1 to 26.
3.  Get 26 3x5 cards.
4.  Number them with the dollar values from the game.
5.  Have a third party shuffle the envelopes and dollar value cards, and insert the cards into the envelopes.
6.  Make each offer slightly above the median value.
7.  Borrow 26 dolls from your sister's/niece's/daughter's Barbie collection.  Dress them identically.
8.  Borrow the kid's Fisher Price My First Telephone.
9.  Do the fist knock with the contestant any time a low value is removed.  To be more like Howie, keep a gallon of Purel nearby.
10.  Say certain phrases in a slightly different voice, so it sounds like there were some comments edited in during post.
Items 7 through 10 are merely optional, but they give this home game some authenticity.

Ta da.  You can thank me later for saving you $35 apiece.

$35 times 1500 Invision members...HALLELUJAH, I think I found a way to pay off my student loans.
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Henke and GSWitch probably play with 260 Barbie dolls, so I would think the Barbies are no problem for them, hehe.

BTW, can I be the second member of the Ugly Dave fan club?
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: MikeK on February 11, 2006, 10:17:26 AM
[quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Feb 11 2006, 10:15 AM\']Henke and GSWitch probably play with 260 Barbie dolls, so I would think the Barbies are no problem for them, hehe.[/quote]
Since when are Barbies inflatable?

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BTW, can I be the second member of the Ugly Dave fan club?
*sigh*  Fine.  Now I have to change that custom member title thingy.
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: DjohnsonCB on February 11, 2006, 10:58:22 AM
While it's nice to see that one game maker is putting some sturdy material into their DonD home game, I have an idea as to how a manufacturer could make an adequate one and sell it for less:

Make a stand-up board with 26 numbered clear plastic pockets and a cardboard backing, and 26 small, hinged, soft plastic suitcases to slip into the pockets.  To one side of the board, add a 27th pocket marked "Player's Choice" or something similar, for the chosen case at the outset to be slipped into.  Each case has a slot so that a small cardboard card, 26 in all, (something like the Concentration prize cards), can be slipped in face down while each case is also face down.  When a case is removed it can be opened to reveal the $ amount.  

Each time a case is removed and opened, those turns are counted off on a pegboard with one peg that is moved further down, each hole bearing a notation to the side that either reads "Safe" or "Call From Banker", with the latter message appearing more often as the holes progress.  A pad of sheets (or a wipe-off sheet and crayon) is used to mark off the revealed amounts in each game.  When the peg reaches a "Call From Banker" hole, the host offers the player half or 3/4 the amount that is assumed in the "Player's Choice" case to buy it back (sorry, this is where my memory gets fuzzy on the game play).  

Finally, the player uses a card that's blank on one side (and face down) and has the word "Deal" on the other, to indicate "DonD" for each offer.  Turned face up, this marks the non-reversible decision to take the deal.
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: itiparanoid13 on February 11, 2006, 11:11:13 AM
NBC and Endemol are kind of worrying me about all of this.  It was really successful for one week when there was nothing else on, and we're already rushing into electronic home game stage?  Don't get me wrong, I love Deal or No Deal and I'll probably be picking up the game since it's only $15, but we haven't even seen if DoND can do well against actual competition and a home game is coming out.
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: BrandonFG on February 11, 2006, 12:08:27 PM
[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Feb 11 2006, 10:17 AM\'][quote name=\'FOXSportsFan\' date=\'Feb 11 2006, 10:15 AM\']Henke and GSWitch probably play with 260 Barbie dolls, so I would think the Barbies are no problem for them, hehe.[/quote]
Since when are Barbies inflatable?
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That's a Line of the Day candidate. Credit to Jim for the setup.
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: Dbacksfan12 on February 11, 2006, 03:16:13 PM
[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' date=\'Feb 11 2006, 11:11 AM\']I love Deal or No Deal and I'll probably be picking up the game since it's only $15, but we haven't even seen if DoND can do well against actual competition and a home game is coming out.
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There's been some other klunkers that had a home game put out...check Matt's page for a list. :)
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: cmjb13 on February 11, 2006, 03:18:32 PM
[quote name=\'itiparanoid13\' date=\'Feb 11 2006, 11:11 AM\']NBC and Endemol are kind of worrying me about all of this.  It was really successful for one week when there was nothing else on, and we're already rushing into electronic home game stage?  Don't get me wrong, I love Deal or No Deal and I'll probably be picking up the game since it's only $15, but we haven't even seen if DoND can do well against actual competition and a home game is coming out.
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According to On Camera Audiences, (http://\"http://www.ocatv.com/schedule.php?show_id=80\") it looks like Deal will now be taped at Sunset Gower Studios.

One wonders if it's a cost-cutting measure as I'm sure CBS space isn't cheap.
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: FOXSportsFan on February 11, 2006, 03:57:17 PM
Since when were Barbies inflatable, was asked?  Well...not...but less we forget the my size Barbie.  Granted, a my size Barbie for them may be in excess of 5'7" and 300 pounds...
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: JayDLewis on February 11, 2006, 11:09:56 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Feb 11 2006, 10:06 AM\']I've never heard of Irwin Toy before,
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I have...and they went bankrupt a couple of years ago. Dunno if that's great foreshadowing or not.

Irwin is not known for "quality" toys. They're an Endless clone (by that I mean any way to cut costs without impacting the game too much).
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: DrJWJustice on February 12, 2006, 12:33:22 AM
[quote name=\'hmtriplecrown\' date=\'Feb 11 2006, 10:12 AM\']How to save $35, the Klauss way.

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7.  Borrow 26 dolls from your sister's/niece's/daughter's Barbie collection.  Dress them identically.
8.  Borrow the kid's Fisher Price My First Telephone.
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Ta da.  You can thank me later for saving you $35 apiece.
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OK, I might save $35, but I really don't want to listen to the little brat yelling and screaming while I, a 32-year-old grown man, am playing with her dolls & toys.  

Wait a minute!  Say, Klauss, can I borrow your GI Joe action figures?  I'd like to do the Full Metal Jacket version of Deal or No Deal, if you don't mind.  How many grenades are in the box?
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: parliboy on February 12, 2006, 05:41:14 PM
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' date=\'Feb 11 2006, 10:06 AM\']I've never heard of Irwin Toy before, but checking their website (http://\"http://www.irwintoy.com\") (where DoND isn't listed yet), they appear to be one of those companies that skirts around the edges of copyright infringement by giving new names to popular games ("Frustration" instead of "Trouble", "Inline" instead of "Connect Four", "Sea Battle" instead of "Battleship") with only the slightest modifications.  Strikes me as a little surprising that they'd be the ones to obtain rights to a super-hot property, when they could have just as easily made up their own version and called it "What's In The Suitcase?"
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While they're certainly not showing much imagination with those titles, they're not skirting around copyright infringement.  All of those games are actually non-proprietary, public-domain games that were given lots of plastic parts and re-dubbed by a manufacturer.  Anyone's free to make a Connect Four-type game as long as they don't call it Connect Four, since it's just another derivative of "The Captain's Mistress", just as Battleship is taken from a public-domain game, and Trouble is a gimmicky "Pachisi".

Luckily I don't own any of those (cradles Catan Collector's Chest while impersonating Gollum).
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: Matt Ottinger on February 12, 2006, 06:18:08 PM
[quote name=\'parliboy\' date=\'Feb 12 2006, 06:41 PM\']While they're certainly not showing much imagination with those titles, they're not skirting around copyright infringement.  All of those games are actually non-proprietary, public-domain games that were given lots of plastic parts and re-dubbed by a manufacturer.  Anyone's free to make a Connect Four-type game as long as they don't call it Connect Four, since it's just another derivative of "The Captain's Mistress", just as Battleship is taken from a public-domain game, and Trouble is a gimmicky "Pachisi".[/quote]
I understand that every bit as much as Hasbro's lawyers do.  But when they're copying the better-known company's games, all the way down to a "pop-a-dice" instead of a "pop-a-matic" (neither of which, I'm assuming, were a part of the original pachisi), then they're certainly skirting around something!
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: uncamark on February 13, 2006, 12:31:42 PM
Wasn't "DOND" using the studio at TV City where "Dancing" and "Idol" are televised?  Couldn't it just have been an availability issue?
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: cmjb13 on February 13, 2006, 12:53:04 PM
[quote name=\'uncamark\' date=\'Feb 13 2006, 12:31 PM\']Wasn't "DOND" using the studio at TV City where "Dancing" and "Idol" are televised?  Couldn't it just have been an availability issue?
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I did not think of that and it's quite possible. But they taped 5 shows about 2 weeks ago at CBS when Dancing was still in production. And On Camera Audiences does not list Dancing using that studio on the same day. Of course, that doesn't mean they won't be using it.

Either way it really doesn't matter. I'm just curious if the set will be any different size wise.
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: MSTieScott on February 13, 2006, 04:09:01 PM
Idol hasn't moved back into 36 yet, so that studio was open for Deal to tape in. I would imagine that Dancing is occupying 46 for the rest of their season (don't the dancers sometimes practice on the set in the days before the taping?), so Deal took 36. Which studio did Deal use for the first five episodes?

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Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: cmjb13 on February 13, 2006, 04:38:06 PM
Deal used 46 for the first 5 shows.
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: Bob Zager on February 13, 2006, 07:35:55 PM
Click the following link, and scroll down, and you'll see BOTH the handheld and table top versions of the game:

http://www.toydirectory.com/monthly/ToySho...yshow.asp?id=85 (http://\"http://www.toydirectory.com/monthly/ToyShow/toyshow.asp?id=85\")
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Post by: clemon79 on February 13, 2006, 09:44:04 PM
[quote name=\'Bob Zager\' date=\'Feb 13 2006, 04:35 PM\']Click the following link, and scroll down, and you'll see BOTH the handheld and table top versions of the game:

http://www.toydirectory.com/monthly/ToySho...yshow.asp?id=85 (http://\"http://www.toydirectory.com/monthly/ToyShow/toyshow.asp?id=85\")
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EXTREME Rock Paper Scissors? Wow.

(Although I admit that I do have an I-Top, got it as a desk toy, and they are a whole lot of fun. :))
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Post by: sshuffield70 on February 13, 2006, 11:50:04 PM
[quote name=\'MSTieScott\' date=\'Feb 13 2006, 04:09 PM\']Idol hasn't moved back into 36 yet, so that studio was open for Deal to tape in. I would imagine that Dancing is occupying 46 for the rest of their season (don't the dancers sometimes practice on the set in the days before the taping?), so Deal took 36. Which studio did Deal use for the first five episodes?

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What?  "Dancing" is taped?  I thought it was LIvE?!?!

(okay, I'm being silly, I know that.  But in all seriousness, "Dancing" is live, just as "Idol" is.)

BTW, I'm almost certain "Skating with Celebrities" is in the same Idol/Swan studio.
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: cmjb13 on February 14, 2006, 06:32:11 AM
Skating tapes at Renmar. Idol's at CBS. Not sure where Swan taped.
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: sshuffield70 on February 14, 2006, 09:20:34 AM
"Swan" was a reference to its' season ending pageant.  The regular eps were mainly set at some unspecified mansion of some sort.  I don't know either, but it looked like they used the "Idol" stage for those
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: Tony on February 14, 2006, 10:06:15 AM
[quote name=\'Bob Zager\' date=\'Feb 13 2006, 07:35 PM\']Click the following link, and scroll down, and you'll see BOTH the handheld and table top versions of the game:

http://www.toydirectory.com/monthly/ToySho...yshow.asp?id=85 (http://\"http://www.toydirectory.com/monthly/ToyShow/toyshow.asp?id=85\")
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Okay, I have to ask this:
What justification does the Deal or No Deal game have being a 4-player game?  I mean, there's only one player at a time, for crying out loud!

BTW, I attended the DOND "cattle call" in Huntsville, AL last night (2/13).
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: cmjb13 on February 14, 2006, 10:30:22 AM
[quote name=\'Tony\' date=\'Feb 14 2006, 10:06 AM\']BTW, I attended the DOND "cattle call" in Huntsville, AL last night (2/13).
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There was one this past week in NY, which I did not attend. I'm not sure if I'm even eligible.

Assuming every "cattle call" is the same, what did it entail?
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: Tony on February 14, 2006, 02:19:01 PM
[quote name=\'cmjb13\' date=\'Feb 14 2006, 10:30 AM\']Assuming every "cattle call" is the same, what did it entail?
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I can only speak for mine, but it was held at a local sports bar (I just might be feeling the ill effects of all the tobacco smoke right about now; I normally don't patronize those types of establishments;)).
I arrived at about 6PM and stood in a long, snaking line for about 3 hours.  At the start of the line, each person was given an application form to fill out, which took me about 30 minutes to read through and give answers.  At the end of the line, a group of 15 people were called into another room (which was considerably less smoke-filled, or I may have just gotten used to the smoke at that time).  Once there, the group was gathered around a table with one of the crew (a contestant coordinator, I presume) who the proceeded to collect the application forms and then ask  questions to each of us, going around the table.  This was presumably to gauge how each of us might do on TV, and to help determine if they thought each person might be a good fit for the show.  Each group was then informed that if any of the applicants were to be called back within 2 weeks, each person so picked were to bring a minimum of 4 "supporters" to a place to be designated for the tryouts.
The audition part lasted about 15 to 20 minutes, after which each of the group left for home.  There were 2 other groups of 15 in the same room with a different crew member.  No mock game was played at all.
Title: New Game Show home game
Post by: cmjb13 on February 17, 2006, 03:13:18 PM
Not that it matters, but On Camera Audiences confirms Deal will be taping at Sunset Gower going forward.