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The Big Board / Re: 1976 Pyramid Story
« Last post by thomas_meighan on November 14, 2024, 06:57:48 PM »
“Grocery store shelves.”
“Product displays.”
“Ads.”
Metaphorically: “Hester Prynne.”

Another thing that differentiates the “brand” category from “Famous Losers” is that in the former, it sounds like the judge awarded the category to the contestant, then after the break they decided to reverse it. For “Famous Losers,” the contestant said “losers . . . gamblers,” then the audience began cheering, the contestant jumped up, the music started, people came on stage — but the judge never officially gave the response a ding. True, it took 20 seconds between the answer and the first buzzer, but the reaction was also a bit premature.

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The Big Board / Re: 1976 Pyramid Story
« Last post by SuperMatch93 on November 14, 2024, 06:15:38 PM »
Was “Brand X” used as a selling point in ‘76?

Brand X's first album came out that year,  so the phrase would've been known at least.
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The Big Board / Re: 1976 Pyramid Story
« Last post by BrandonFG on November 14, 2024, 05:46:21 PM »
For things with a brand, what about "a non-generic product?"
“Competitor X’s Product” maybe? Was “Brand X” used as a selling point in ‘76?
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The Big Board / Re: 1976 Pyramid Story
« Last post by Blanquepage on November 14, 2024, 04:36:06 PM »
For things with a brand, what about "a non-generic product?"
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The Big Board / Re: 1976 Pyramid Story
« Last post by Otm Shank on November 14, 2024, 04:29:16 PM »
What makes this a little different from the Famous Losers incident was that decision came before the break as opposed to returning from break. (Let's set aside future take-back-the-money situations for a second.)

The charity donation seems to indicate there was some level of disagreement on the decision, and maybe there was more push from S&P than the judges, so this was the compromise solution. I'm sure someone will pull out examples, but I don't think Things That Have Brands was used again, or maybe reworded.

Where was the box located? This might also be a factor in the disagreement, because a bottom row box is not usually going to be too technical.

The wording of the clue is weird, plural Things and plural Brands. So clues like a Coke or a Kleenex are both nominally the thing and the brand, so they fit the subject in a way. Not much of a wine connoisseur to know if Mouton Rothschild is one of those brands that are so synonymous with the product, but now it's getting incredibly subjective. But I would say "Coke bottles" and "a Kleenex tissue" are extra-technically incorrect, because those items have one brand and not (plural) brands.

I think there was a recognition of a poorly written clue, and perhaps not enough time to run a replacement, leading to this decision. I'm sure they probably put something down in writing after that to not make this the precedent solution. I imagine, even with the frugal Bob Stewart jokes, they paid the regular Winners' Circle winnings out of the prize budget and the production company just made the charitable donation and wrote it off.
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The Big Board / Re: Wink TTD Question...
« Last post by Otm Shank on November 14, 2024, 03:45:02 PM »
Of course, the irony is that in that specific scenario, the winnings cap encourages the behavior that it was established to prevent.
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The Big Board / Re: 1976 Pyramid Story
« Last post by clemon79 on November 14, 2024, 02:43:12 PM »
"A rancher's iron." Pair that with "A rancher's cattle" and then do a little soft-shoe if that doesn't get them home. Maybe throw in "Grocery products" if you have to?
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The Big Board / Re: Wink TTD Question...
« Last post by Blanquepage on November 14, 2024, 02:29:32 PM »
Were there other shows that fell into this situation?
TJW had a similar situation about a year earlier. Guy named Joe Dunn won a bunch of money and Jack said anything over $50K was donated. I think Joker and Tic Tac aired on CBS O&O’s right after Thom’s run ended.
Joe Dunn had to quit the game when he went over the winning limit, right?  The excess he won was donated to charity but he didn't get to keep playing?  It sounds like on TTD, a person could just play and play and play until they were defeated and could potentially end up donating lots to charity.  I'm not sure how I feel about that if that's the case.

My self-interested side eager to get on with life would eventually prevail, and I'd throw a game to end the streak.
Not saying that's what our TTD champ Joan from that episode did, but I recall she did lose shortly thereafter ;D
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The Big Board / Re: Wink TTD Question...
« Last post by TLEberle on November 14, 2024, 02:28:47 PM »
I guess technically that CBS example was a case of both raising and lowering. It went from $25k soft cap with no hard cap to $50k soft cap with a $75k hard cap. Michael Larson would not have kept all his money under the new rule.
I don't know if that case was an impetus for changing the limits, but in stretching my brain I don't think there has ever been a game show before that on CBS where you could win over a hundred grand, certainly not in one game. 50/75 allows for those monster wins on Pyramid and Card Sharks and if you win $79,000 then set aside a chunk of the cash to invest and you'll make it back eventually.
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The Big Board / Re: Wink TTD Question...
« Last post by Kevin Prather on November 14, 2024, 02:21:49 PM »
I also remember sometime during the CBS PYL era the cap went from from $25K to $50K, but the contestant got to keep all winnings, but had to retire after the game.

Still odd to see a game show LOWER a winnings cap midstream.

I guess technically that CBS example was a case of both raising and lowering. It went from $25k soft cap with no hard cap to $50k soft cap with a $75k hard cap. Michael Larson would not have kept all his money under the new rule.
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