Author Topic: Greatest Hosts of All Time - Results Thread (Read 111020 times)

Don Howard · « **Reply #120 on:** October 12, 2006, 09:59:21 PM »

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'134303\' date=\'Oct 12 2006, 05:46 PM\']
[color=\"#CC33CC\"]28 Art James[/color]
The Who, What or Where Game, The Magnificent Marble Machine, Say When!!
(119 18/68)
A lot like Jim Peck, dependable but without a distinct style. Loved him in Mallrats.
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And I loved his blue tuxedo in that film.
And I despise Ben Affleck to this day for mocking him.

clemon79 · « **Reply #121 on:** October 12, 2006, 10:12:09 PM »

[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'134332\' date=\'Oct 12 2006, 06:59 PM\']
And I despise Ben Affleck to this day for mocking him.
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Really? When there are SO MANY other good reasons to despise him?

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #122 on:** October 12, 2006, 10:25:28 PM »

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'134334\' date=\'Oct 12 2006, 10:12 PM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'134332\' date=\'Oct 12 2006, 06:59 PM\']
And I despise Ben Affleck to this day for mocking him.
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Really? When there are SO MANY other good reasons to despise him?

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"I sued Ben Affleck -- Aw, do I even need a reason?"
--"Weird Al" Yankovic, I'll Sue Ya

JasonA1 · « **Reply #123 on:** October 12, 2006, 10:37:58 PM »

Actually, didn't Jason Lee's character get the bigger digs at Art's character? ("Richard Dawson, why don't you just go back to your podium until it's time to play the Feud, all right!?")

-Jason

tomobrien · « **Reply #124 on:** October 12, 2006, 10:56:31 PM »

[quote name=\'Eric Paddon\' post=\'134310\' date=\'Oct 12 2006, 05:58 PM\']
Bud was an easy vote for me, because of his warmth and sincerity, and the fact that he had two hits in shows that were far apart in tone.
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Bud was an easy "leave-off" for me. He never came across as sincere to me, particularly when he started "blessing" departing contestants. And there were times when his comments to Roxanne seemed to have just a bit of an "edge" to them.

I'm glad enough people remembered Art James to give him a decent rating. Too bad that more of his work (and yes, I'm including "Say When!!") isn't around to appreciate.

Neumms · « **Reply #125 on:** October 12, 2006, 11:24:35 PM »

[quote name=\'tomobrien\' post=\'134341\' date=\'Oct 12 2006, 09:56 PM\']
[quote name=\'Eric Paddon\' post=\'134310\' date=\'Oct 12 2006, 05:58 PM\']
Bud was an easy vote for me, because of his warmth and sincerity, and the fact that he had two hits in shows that were far apart in tone.
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Bud was an easy "leave-off" for me. He never came across as sincere to me, particularly when he started "blessing" departing contestants.
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I left him off, too, for the same reason. On TTTT, he never seemed to have a rapport with the panel, and if anyone said anything funny, he seemed peeved.

He was even phonier on "Beat the Clock." Does anyone else find it odd that people such as Steve Beverly knock modern-day shows like "Weakest Link" for being mean-spirited, but seem to love BtC, in which wives threw cream pies at their husbands' heads? (I guess that's not precisely directed at Collyer.)

TLEberle · « **Reply #126 on:** October 13, 2006, 12:06:38 AM »

[quote name=\'Neumms\' post=\'134345\' date=\'Oct 12 2006, 08:24 PM\']He was even phonier on "Beat the Clock." Does anyone else find it odd that people such as Steve Beverly knock modern-day shows like "Weakest Link" for being mean-spirited, but seem to love BtC, in which wives threw cream pies at their husbands' heads? (I guess that's not precisely directed at Collyer.)[/quote]I suppose there's a difference between "All in good fun, and playing for $500," and "Out for blood and a million dollars."

brianhenke · « **Reply #127 on:** October 13, 2006, 12:29:34 AM »

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[color=\"#CC33CC\"]28 Art James[/color]
The Who, What or Where Game, The Magnificent Marble Machine, Say When!!
(119 18/68)
A lot like Jim Peck, dependable but without a distinct style. Loved him in Mallrats.

Hey, don't forget Say When!!
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Consider it not-forgotten!
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And let's not forget his announcing (and filling in for Hugh Downs) on Concentration.

Brian

Indianapolis is the capital of Michigan?

Don Howard · « **Reply #128 on:** October 13, 2006, 07:20:36 AM »

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'134334\' date=\'Oct 12 2006, 10:12 PM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'134332\' date=\'Oct 12 2006, 06:59 PM\']
And I despise Ben Affleck to this day for mocking him.
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Really? When there are SO MANY other good reasons to despise him?

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Indeed there are, Chris. My Top Fifty reasons for despising The Aff will be revealed in future sigs. Watch for those and collect them all. It was Jason Lee who said those lines? Doggone pledge drive has caused cloud cover in my memories. Well, Ben remains guilty by association.

The Ol' Guy · « **Reply #129 on:** October 13, 2006, 03:55:32 PM »

Collyer was last on my list of 20. I gave him some props for being one of the members of the golden age, but yes, he always sounded like he was in front of a radio microphone in his own bubble - like a carnival barker. Not a lot of warmth. However, I've never doubted his "God Bless You", as he was a Sunday School teacher and wrote two books of rather simple but honest Christian based poetry.
Of course, these days, if a host tried that, the ACLU and the nets would be all over him and make him say,
"Thank you, and whoever may, or may not, be your guiding source in whatever religion, or non-religion, you adhere to, wish you a nice day."

JasonA1 · « **Reply #130 on:** October 13, 2006, 03:58:36 PM »

I forgot if I put Collyer in my top 20 or not, but I do remember agonizing over where to put him because of "Beat the Clock." While I agree for the most part he was a bit phony, he seemed truly excited when a contestant knocked off a bonus or otherwise difficult stunt. Beyond that, he also had a perfect hold on that format. He never lost his place, always hit his marks, etc. Having command over that many stunts per night is a feat.

-Jason

PYLdude · « **Reply #131 on:** October 14, 2006, 12:48:55 AM »

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[quote name=\'PYLdude\' post=\'134241\' date=\'Oct 12 2006, 06:54 AM\']1) She brings nothing to the table in regards to being excited for the contestant when they start to climb the ladder and get up to the higher level questions. [/quote] Oh, I disagree. Watch some of the first season stuff when there were people actually winning $250k, $500k and the jackpot. She was as immersed in the game as any host I had seen in years.[/quote]

I watched a LOT of the first season. I didn't notice. Maybe it was just me not paying attention (in other words, point conceded).

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Regis committed the greatest sin that a game show host can commit: he put himself ahead of the game and the contestants. He would think nothing of poking fun at the contestant's foibles, or even their name. And it was downright offensive at times. And then there's the business of "You've won $500,000!" right after the chosen answer turns yellow.

I agree with that completely.

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Meredith gives off this vibe that she doesn't care whether the contestant wins $1,000 or $25,000. I can't speak for anyone else but myself, but she doesn't seem to get that you need to give a little more effort that what she does when a contestant is going for an upper level question.
I think that's just your own opinion, since you already don't like her, you're crafting reasons.

You're putting words in my mouth. I never said I didn't like her. Outside of Millionaire, I do. She's a good moderator, a good commentator, and a lousy game show host. Just because I don't hold the opinion that she's a good host doesn't mean that I don't like her.

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I think the problem is what other people have already said: the focus of the show has changed from the questions to the contestants. When people only win $25,000, or quit with $16,000 time and time again, it's hard to get excited, since it's just going to happen again next time.

That may be the case, but you can't let your lack of enthusiasm shine through when things like that happen. Meredith has a problem with that, and she needs to fix it.

I give her credit for trying, don't get me wrong, and I think she's great in making conversation with the contestants. As for actual game conducting skills, she lacks a lot more than a lot of people are willing to admit.

TLEberle · « **Reply #132 on:** October 14, 2006, 02:59:04 AM »

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I think the problem is what other people have already said: the focus of the show has changed from the questions to the contestants. When people only win $25,000, or quit with $16,000 time and time again, it's hard to get excited, since it's just going to happen again next time.

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That may be the case, but you can't let your lack of enthusiasm shine through when things like that happen. Meredith has a problem with that, and she needs to fix it.

What you see as a lack of enthusiasm I see as staying in control. We're long past the age of Bert Parks and Bud Collyer where hosts have to be manic and over-the-top. What's wrong with "You've won $4,000, well done."? I don't think she should be saying "YOU'VE WON $1,000!" every time. I like that she's relaxed, and I don't think it detracts from her performance.

Eric Paddon · « **Reply #133 on:** October 14, 2006, 11:29:19 PM »

[quote name=\'tomobrien\' post=\'134341\' date=\'Oct 12 2006, 10:56 PM\']
[quote name=\'Eric Paddon\' post=\'134310\' date=\'Oct 12 2006, 05:58 PM\']
Bud was an easy vote for me, because of his warmth and sincerity, and the fact that he had two hits in shows that were far apart in tone.
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Bud was an easy "leave-off" for me. He never came across as sincere to me, particularly when he started "blessing" departing contestants. [/quote]

I always find it odd that an outgrowth of one's religious faith, which in Bud's case was quite genuine, is always dismissed somehow as a sign of phoniness on the part of some. It puts me in mind of how more people seemed to have nastier things to say about clean-living Gary Carter on the 1986 Mets then they did about some of his foul-mouthed teammates.

I don't see anything phony in Bud's work on either BTC or TTTT. And I think those who say he had no rapport with the TTTT panel aren't watching the program carefully enough, or else they're letting themselves be influenced too much by the fact that yes, Garry Moore certainly had a closer rapport with his panel in the 70s, but I always saw Bud laugh it up or join in the merrriment when something came up from the panel.

tomobrien · « **Reply #134 on:** October 15, 2006, 12:09:30 AM »

[quote name=\'Eric Paddon\' post=\'134542\' date=\'Oct 14 2006, 10:29 PM\']
I always find it odd that an outgrowth of one's religious faith, which in Bud's case was quite genuine, is always dismissed somehow as a sign of phoniness on the part of some. It puts me in mind of how more people seemed to have nastier things to say about clean-living Gary Carter on the 1986 Mets then they did about some of his foul-mouthed teammates.

I don't see anything phony in Bud's work on either BTC or TTTT. And I think those who say he had no rapport with the TTTT panel aren't watching the program carefully enough, or else they're letting themselves be influenced too much by the fact that yes, Garry Moore certainly had a closer rapport with his panel in the 70s, but I always saw Bud laugh it up or join in the merrriment when something came up from the panel.
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All in how you perceive him. You saw him as genuine, to me he came off as holier-than-thou. I never perceived him as being particularly warm or engaging on TTTT, either. What I do admire him for was, like others have mentioned, being able to handle the logistical duties of hosting BTC smoothly--which, given the rigors of live television, could sometimes be a three-ring circus.