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SteveR

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« on: May 02, 2007, 01:34:13 PM »
According to BuzzerBlog, they're doing runthroughs with paid volunteers:

http://buzzerblog.flashgameshows.com/rumor...ssword-revival/

Of course, we've seen what the know-it-alls in TV have done in their misguided attempts to improve the likes of Pyramid and Card Sharks.

The game of Password is strong enough that it doesn't need improvement.

I'd love to see this one come back but wouldn't be able to bear it if it suffers a similar treatment.
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2007, 01:49:29 PM »
[quote name=\'SteveR\' post=\'151353\' date=\'May 2 2007, 01:34 PM\']The game of Password is strong enough that it doesn't need improvement.[/quote]
I like where your heart is, but the game of Password was already "improved" over the 3 or so decades it was on the air previously.  (Whether it was an actual improvement probably varies from person to person)

I would've attempted to go, but I don't have a car of my own, I have a general distrust of public transportation (Thanks, Allegheny County Port Authority), and you'd probably have to dig for my Q rating.
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2007, 02:30:10 PM »
[quote name=\'SteveR\' post=\'151353\' date=\'May 2 2007, 12:34 PM\']
According to BuzzerBlog, they're doing runthroughs with paid volunteers:

http://buzzerblog.flashgameshows.com/rumor...ssword-revival/

Of course, we've seen what the know-it-alls in TV have done in their misguided attempts to improve the likes of Pyramid and Card Sharks.

The game of Password is strong enough that it doesn't need improvement.

I'd love to see this one come back but wouldn't be able to bear it if it suffers a similar treatment.
[/quote]

It seems like you're going through a lot of assuming very, very early in the game (along with the commenters on the blog post).

I've heard it said by some in here that "Password" may be *too* smart for today's audiences.  Perhaps at this point all the producers are looking at is if reasonably intelligent people understand the game and can play it well.

Considering what "Chain Reaction"'s been put through in its revival, perhaps we should be relieved that a production company wants to know if there are people who will be able to play "Password" coherently and are willing to pay people money for a couple of days to find this out.

Frankly, I hope the answer is positive, perhaps because I don't think we're all as dumb today as some people think we are.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2007, 02:47:45 PM »
Yes, there are Password run-throughs in New York, but it is way early in the process of getting to air. There is no deal with a network or cable channel yet. My educated guess is that this is a big money version of the game, reformatted to move quicker and not require a college degree.

With the success of a couple of the newer games on the air, with Temptation and Merv's Crosswords now each with a firm "go", with a number of development deals around town, and the possibility of a WGA/SAG/AFTRA in the immediate future, this is the most encoraging environment for games in a long time!

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SteveR

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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2007, 02:51:36 PM »
[quote name=\'Joe Mello\' post=\'151355\' date=\'May 2 2007, 01:49 PM\'][quote name=\'SteveR\' post=\'151353\' date=\'May 2 2007, 01:34 PM\']The game of Password is strong enough that it doesn't need improvement.[/quote]I like where your heart is, but the game of Password was already "improved" over the 3 or so decades it was on the air previously.  (Whether it was an actual improvement probably varies from person to person)[/quote]Maybe I should have been more specific.

I didn't like the all-in "front game" of the first "improvement" -- where four contestants played for the right ro play "classic" Password against the champion.

Where they ended up with Plus/Super is what I was talking about. Yeah, they added things to the old game of 10-9-8-etc, first-to-25 Password. But everything they added remained in the spirit of the game and should be an adequate place to start from for a revival.

I find myself on the "wrong" end of TV's possible belief that shows are too smart for the general audience. Seems to work for Jeopardy. I just wish there were more.
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2007, 03:16:55 PM »
[quote name=\'SteveR\' post=\'151363\' date=\'May 2 2007, 02:51 PM\']Where they ended up with Plus/Super is what I was talking about. Yeah, they added things to the old game of 10-9-8-etc, first-to-25 Password. But everything they added remained in the spirit of the game and should be an adequate place to start from for a revival.

I find myself on the "wrong" end of TV's possible belief that shows are too smart for the general audience. Seems to work for Jeopardy. I just wish there were more.
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A revival cannot live on spirit alone.  CS and Pyramid both remained "in the spirit of the game" but everything else reduced the game to something less than desirable.

Oh, and Jeopardy works because it has tenure, among other things.
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2007, 03:26:03 PM »
It's about time. I have some thoughts about formatting it so the game ends with a finale (that is, each half-hour is self-contaned) if anybody is interested...
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2007, 03:44:03 PM »
[quote name=\'SteveR\' post=\'151363\' date=\'May 2 2007, 11:51 AM\']
I didn't like the all-in "front game" of the first "improvement" -- where four contestants played for the right ro play "classic" Password against the champion.
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Which is not how it worked, I don't believe. Weren't both players from the previous game thrown into the pool, and then two new players joined them?

(I realize this doesn't change your point much, but there it is.)
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2007, 04:01:41 PM »
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'151368\' date=\'May 2 2007, 03:44 PM\']
[quote name=\'SteveR\' post=\'151363\' date=\'May 2 2007, 11:51 AM\']
I didn't like the all-in "front game" of the first "improvement" -- where four contestants played for the right ro play "classic" Password against the champion.
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Which is not how it worked, I don't believe. Weren't both players from the previous game thrown into the pool, and then two new players joined them?

(I realize this doesn't change your point much, but there it is.)
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2007, 04:19:28 PM »
I was thinking of attending, but am unable to.

I don't understand why they want a photo of you just for a run-thru. Unless, it's possible they would use you for a pilot. And whatever happened to using employees for run-thru's?

I'm surprised this isn't in L.A.
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2007, 04:41:44 PM »
This is a minority opinion, but I never warmed up to P+ puzzles or Alphabetics/Super Password.  Made the game too easy and reduced the word variety.  Lightning Round was where it's at. Hey, maybe they could get Jim Cramer to host.:)  All-Stars was a good variant, IMO.
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clemon79

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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2007, 04:43:56 PM »
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'151369\' date=\'May 2 2007, 01:01 PM\']
From Wiki...
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Which, if you look at the revision history, has our own Chris Clementon's contribution (where he states that it was as I said it, the two previous players plus two new ones) "corrected" by some completely anonymous schmuck.

So, you'll forgive me, I think, if I side with the actual G-T employee here.
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2007, 04:51:15 PM »
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'151372\' date=\'May 2 2007, 04:43 PM\']
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'151369\' date=\'May 2 2007, 01:01 PM\']
From Wiki...
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Which, if you look at the revision history, has our own Chris Clementon's contribution (where he states that it was as I said it, the two previous players plus two new ones) "corrected" by a guy who looks an awful damned lot like he hasn't been out of his parent's basement in a LONG LONG time.

So, you'll forgive me, I think, if I side with the actual G-T employee here.
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Oh my...this is why Wikipedia should never be used as primary research.  Said post edited to reflect my complete oblivion of checking revision history.

But my Alphabetics point still stands.  Just don't come up with a new endgame.
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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2007, 06:46:10 PM »
Actually, wait. In defense of Parent's Basement Guy, I screwed up, as he was not the one who made that particular edit, he made the most recent one. (Chalk it up to me not understanding how the comparative Wikipedia screens worked.) The edit happened here, by some anonymous schmuck with the IP address of 24.172.221.62, which resolves to a RoadRunner location of some kind.

Nonetheless, given the choice between beliving Chris and believing an Anonymous Schmuck, I'll still go with Chris.
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2007, 06:49:27 PM »
I've played the game with co-workers on our down time (Plus/Super rules). It's incredibly fun, and easy to get everyone involved.

That being said, this show would work with a laid-back environment and set that Win Lose or Draw or Pictionary had. No rotating spotlights, no steel girders, no dark colors. Oh, and this show does not need a big budget. Anything over $25,000 for a bonus round is too much.
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