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Ian Wallis

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Who's No. 2?
« on: September 16, 2007, 03:33:14 PM »
I think most of us would agree that Mark Goodson-Bill Todman were the most successful game show producers of all time, and probably the best; but who do you think should be considered No. 2, and why?

I guess some of the obvious choices would have to include:

--Heatter-Quigley (Hollywood Squares, High Rollers, etc.)
--Hatos-Hall (Let's Make a Deal, Split Second)
--Barry-Enright (Joker's Wild, Twenty-One)
--Chuck Barris (Newlywed Game, Gong Show)
--Ralph Edwards (Truth or Consequences, Cross-Wits)
--Merv Griffin (Jeopardy, Wheel of Fortune)
--Bob Stewart (Pyramid, Jackpot)
--Reg Grundy (Sale of the Century, Scrabble)
--Ralph Andrews (Celebrity Sweepstakes, You Don't Say)
--Bill Carruthers (Press Your Luck, Give-N-Take)

Or any others, including some of the newer companies that have produced shows like Who Wants to be a Millionaire and Deal or No Deal?

Feel free to pick one.  I'll add my comments after I've read a few reponses, presuming of course that anyone would like to offer an opinion!  :)
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Matt Ottinger

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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2007, 03:40:25 PM »
Gut instinct order based on success (not quality):

Goodson-Todman
Merv Griffin
Chuck Barris
Barry-Enright
Heatter-Quigley
Bob Stewart
Reg Grundy
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tpirfan28

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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2007, 03:45:18 PM »
G/T
Griffin
Grundy*
Stewart
Carruthers
Barris
Heatter-Quigley
Hatos-Hall
Barry-Enright

*I'm factoring in the international adaptations of $ale, mostly, since it seems to be a format that internationally stays for a while.
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Who's No. 2?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2007, 03:49:07 PM »
Many of Stone-Stanley's productions were Number Two.
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2007, 03:54:53 PM »
[quote name=\'ChrisLambert!\' post=\'163997\' date=\'Sep 16 2007, 03:49 PM\']
Many of Stone-Stanley's productions were Number Two.
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I lol'd. Well played. :-)
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2007, 04:36:25 PM »
I liked Stewart's output.  To me they shared the Goodson vibe with regard to hosts, panelists, etc.
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2007, 04:39:56 PM »
I'm gonna say Ron Greenberg.

He may not be #2 in terms of staying power, but every game of his that I've seen has been innovative, clever, and fun.
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The Pyramids

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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2007, 05:01:16 PM »
Bob Stewart if you take into account his G/T years.
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2007, 05:33:29 PM »
Bob Stewart may not have brought too much originality to his ideas, but he's had his successes here and there. He brought 4 classic shows to the game show world, one of which is, of course, the longest-running game show on American TV [albeit not in original form].

Merv may not have brought too many games to this world altogether, but he is responsible for the 2 most successful games in syndication. Not to mention, having a 3rd creation on the air at the same time is an achievement not seen since....how long ago???

Tough call, I say, but they're both right behind Goodson.
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Matt Ottinger

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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2007, 05:46:21 PM »
I'm not going to make an effort to police this thread, I'm just going to mention that we've already started going all over the place with what question we're actually answering. I thought the original question was about production company success.  If we're talking production quality, creativity and cleverness of ideas, or individual accomplishment regardless of which company you're working for, there's probably a different answer for every one of those.
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2007, 06:02:53 PM »
[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'164007\' date=\'Sep 16 2007, 04:46 PM\']
I'm not going to make an effort to police this thread, I'm just going to mention that we've already started going all over the place with what question we're actually answering. I thought the original question was about production company success.  If we're talking production quality, creativity and cleverness of ideas, or individual accomplishment regardless of which company you're working for, there's probably a different answer for every one of those.
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Using that correct criteria the number two spot goes to Merv Griffin.
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2007, 07:11:34 PM »
Before I post an answer, a couple of questions:

Firstly, are we restricting this to American television, or are we considering worldwide television and radio broadcasting?

Secondly, how do we classify certain programs that had multiple producers? Is "Concentration" by Barry-Enright, or NBC?
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2007, 08:24:00 PM »
Bearing that in mind, I'd like to retract my original answer and instead say Bob Stewart.
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2007, 09:04:28 PM »
[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'164013\' date=\'Sep 16 2007, 05:24 PM\']
Bearing that in mind, I'd like to retract my original answer and instead say Bob Stewart.
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Oh, no, I'm sorry, we have to take your first response... :)
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2007, 09:28:26 PM »
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'164016\' date=\'Sep 16 2007, 08:04 PM\'] [quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'164013\' date=\'Sep 16 2007, 05:24 PM\']
Bearing that in mind, I'd like to retract my original answer and instead say Bob Stewart.
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Oh, no, I'm sorry, we have to take your first response... :) [/quote]
And if you pick Merv Griffin, it has to be in the form of a question.
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