Author Topic: Games in which the host outshines the format. (Read 7506 times)

TLEberle · « **Reply #30 on:** March 11, 2008, 08:27:47 PM »

[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'180945\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 03:48 PM\']I sure wouldn't take any insult in humor, even if I knew it was in humor. Maybe it's because I was the target of about 8 bazillion (that's Numberwang!) insults while in school?[/quote] As was I, but I also learned a thing or two about the psychology of young people.

And a well-flung insult with a proper dose of humor can be well-received among peers. If you accept the diss with grace and flair, you'll do better than sulking about it.

But you do seem to fit the portrait of That Guy in my Elementary School.

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I was kidding about the "to hell with him" part. Seriously, though, I could tell that Gray played up for laughs even more than Robinson did -- and because of that, he came off to me as super-smug.

Maybe he was...doing his job?

Your Fail Meal comes with your choice of side salad, French fries or baked beans. $8.95 at the window. Thank you drive through.

[quote name=\'JRaygor\' post=\'180974\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 05:11 PM\']As much as I love it, I'm getting just a *smidgen* tired of random Numberwang proclamations every time someone says a number.[/quote] Each of these things runs its course. Give it time.

/But not before we rotate the board!

TenPoundHammer · « **Reply #31 on:** March 11, 2008, 08:42:30 PM »

[quote name=\'JRaygor\' post=\'180974\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 08:11 PM\']
I don't think you're a bad person, TPH, but I think you're trying way too hard to be funny/clever here. Don't worry too much about "fitting-in", just be yourself and you'll do fine.
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Actually, trying too hard to be funny kinda sorta is being myself. Not that I'm trying to defend myself or anything, but I really do try to fire off a joke whenever possible.

Getting back on topic: Peter Tomarken outshone PYL's format, in my opinion... but the Whammys outshone him by about 100 fold.

/note that I actually typed out a number without mentioning "T***'* N*********!"
//if you get my drift

TenPoundHammer · « **Reply #32 on:** March 11, 2008, 08:50:33 PM »

(note to DZ -- Sorry for the double post, but I just have to reply to this)

[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'180976\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 08:27 PM\']As was I, but I also learned a thing or two about the psychology of young people.[/quote]

Please do elaborate on this point. I'm curious.

[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'180976\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 08:27 PM\']
And a well-flung insult with a proper dose of humor can be well-received among peers.[/quote]

I have a real hard time buying that. Not that I'm saying you're wrong, but I'd like to hear more on this point too.

[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'180976\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 08:27 PM\']
If you accept the diss with grace and flair, you'll do better than sulking about it.[/quote]

"Grace" and "flair" are two settings I don't have.

dzinkin · « **Reply #33 on:** March 11, 2008, 08:52:05 PM »

[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'180978\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 08:42 PM\']
Actually, trying too hard to be funny kinda sorta is being myself. Not that I'm trying to defend myself or anything, but I really do try to fire off a joke whenever possible.
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The problem is, you're not good at it. Which is why, less than a week ago, you promised to stop. All you're doing is disrupting threads.

TLEberle · « **Reply #34 on:** March 11, 2008, 09:01:06 PM »

[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'180980\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 05:50 PM\'][quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'180976\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 08:27 PM\']As was I, but I also learned a thing or two about the psychology of young people.[/quote]Please do elaborate on this point. I'm curious.[/quote] The kids who picked on the outliers were harboring their own insecurities, and masked them through insults. But as an outlier I surely didn't do myself any favors either. It took me until 10th grade to figure that out.

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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'180976\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 08:27 PM\']And a well-flung insult with a proper dose of humor can be well-received among peers.

[I have a real hard time buying that. Not that I'm saying you're wrong, but I'd like to hear more on this point too.[/quote] You just DID say I'm wrong, and I know that among my circle of good friends an insult is a jibe, not an actual condemnation. (Cliffs Notes version: Lighten up.)

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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'180976\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 08:27 PM\']If you accept the diss with grace and flair, you'll do better than sulking about it.

"Grace" and "flair" are two settings I don't have.[/quote]We see that every time you post. Every single time.

BrandonFG · « **Reply #35 on:** March 11, 2008, 09:01:22 PM »

[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'180980\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 08:50 PM\']
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'180976\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 08:27 PM\']
And a well-flung insult with a proper dose of humor can be well-received among peers.[/quote]

I have a real hard time buying that. Not that I'm saying you're wrong, but I'd like to hear more on this point too.
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You ever seen a celebrity roast, either Dean Martin or the ones on Comedy Central? The whole point of those is to make fun of the "celebrity guest of honor". It's all in fun, and the celebrities often crack up laughing at their own expense.

I took my share of jokes as well, but trust me, using it to feel sorry for yourself isn't a good plan.

dzinkin · « **Reply #36 on:** March 11, 2008, 09:01:52 PM »

[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'180980\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 08:50 PM\']
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'180976\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 08:27 PM\']
And a well-flung insult with a proper dose of humor can be well-received among peers.[/quote]
I have a real hard time buying that. Not that I'm saying you're wrong, but I'd like to hear more on this point too.
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In fact, most of us have had that experience. And those of us who have been the butt of jokes still recognize that insults can be delivered for humorous value rather than as a means to hurt others.

I suspect that someone who, by his own admission, "sit(s) on (his) arse all day at this computer" might not have had enough human interaction to have seen this phenomenon up close.

J.R. · « **Reply #37 on:** March 11, 2008, 09:06:08 PM »

[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'180978\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 07:42 PM\']Actually, trying too hard to be funny kinda sorta is being myself. Not that I'm trying to defend myself or anything, but I really do try to fire off a joke whenever possible.[/quote]
Oh God, I give up.

I share the sentiment of this macro:
http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/3293/fa...lmgalorera7.jpg

/Playing the "self-depreciation" card doesn't help you either.

TenPoundHammer · « **Reply #38 on:** March 11, 2008, 09:15:59 PM »

[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'180984\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 09:01 PM\']The kids who picked on the outliers were harboring their own insecurities, and masked them through insults. But as an outlier I surely didn't do myself any favors either. It took me until 10th grade to figure that out.[/quote]

I had you up until the next to last sentence. You didn't do yourself any favors... how?

[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'180984\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 09:01 PM\']...and I know that among my circle of good friends an insult is a jibe, not an actual condemnation. (Cliffs Notes version: Lighten up.)[/quote]

Was it only friends who insulted you? I never, ever got insulted by a friend (at least not to my face).

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'180985\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 09:01 PM\']
You ever seen a celebrity roast, either Dean Martin or the ones on Comedy Central? The whole point of those is to make fun of the "celebrity guest of honor". It's all in fun, and the celebrities often crack up laughing at their own expense.[/quote]

I have seen a roast or two. But that's different -- the point of a roast is to poke fun at them, not to crush their spirits like so many cigarette butts. When I was in school, it semed like everyone's favorite game was "let's make the 15-year-old, sheltered senior feel even more insecure".

dzinkin · « **Reply #39 on:** March 11, 2008, 09:40:32 PM »

[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'180992\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 09:15 PM\']
[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'180984\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 09:01 PM\']The kids who picked on the outliers were harboring their own insecurities, and masked them through insults. But as an outlier I surely didn't do myself any favors either. It took me until 10th grade to figure that out.[/quote]

I had you up until the next to last sentence. You didn't do yourself any favors... how?
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The key is the phrase "as an outlier." When you behave differently from others, people will react to you differently. No one's making excuses for buillying, but if you act as though it's the job of everyone else to adjust to you, rather than the other way around, you're going out of your way to make it harder for yourself.

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[quote name=\'TLEberle\' post=\'180984\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 09:01 PM\']...and I know that among my circle of good friends an insult is a jibe, not an actual condemnation. (Cliffs Notes version: Lighten up.)

Was it only friends who insulted you? I never, ever got insulted by a friend (at least not to my face).
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I won't speak for Travis, but in high school I got zinged both by those with malicious intent and those with humorous intent. And I knew the difference.

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I have seen a roast or two. But that's different -- the point of a roast is to poke fun at them, not to crush their spirits like so many cigarette butts.

Actually, no, it's not substantively different. If you really believe that Anne Robinson and George Gray went on stage thinking to themselves "How can I make these guys feel like s**t for losing" rather than "How can I give them a laugh as they walk off stage," then you're seriously misreading things.

TenPoundHammer · « **Reply #40 on:** March 11, 2008, 09:49:57 PM »

[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'181002\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 09:40 PM\']The key is the phrase "as an outlier." When you behave differently from others, people will react to you differently.[/quote]

I always behaved differently from others, and that's (at least sometimes) why I was bullied. Act different, I'm screwed. Try to fit in, I'm screwed.

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I won't speak for Travis, but in high school I got zinged both by those with malicious intent and those with humorous intent. And I knew the difference.

And I didn't know the difference. I still don't, it seems.

[quote name=\'dzinkin\' post=\'181002\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 09:40 PM\']
Actually, no, it's not substantively different. If you really believe that Anne Robinson and George Gray went on stage thinking to themselves "How can I make these guys feel like s**t for losing" rather than "How can I give them a laugh as they walk off stage," then you're seriously misreading things.
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Yes I was misinterpreting greatly. If either host insulted me, I know I would feel like s**t for losing anyway, but that's just me.

Matt Ottinger · « **Reply #41 on:** March 11, 2008, 10:01:11 PM »

[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'180992\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 09:15 PM\']
the point of a roast is to poke fun at them, not to crush their spirits like so many cigarette butts. [/quote]
EXACTLY!!!!!

Not every insult has to be about crushing the spirits of the other person. Sometimes it's for friends to poke fun at other friends, understanding that nobody is getting hurt. They're still insults. Quick, who's got a bald joke for me?

The term for this concept is "shades of gray". You do have a tendency to take things very literally and only see one side or the other.

[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'180978\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 08:42 PM\']
/note that I actually typed out a number without mentioning "T***'* N*********!"[/quote]

Except by making a point about it, you basically did.

Don Howard · « **Reply #42 on:** March 11, 2008, 10:51:34 PM »

[quote name=\'TenPoundHammer\' post=\'180942\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 06:18 PM\']
*Corbin Bernson, How Much Is Enough?
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Unflushed deposits in the GSN commode outshine that monstrosity.
Hoping to steer this thread back on topic, my vote goes to Geoff Edwards on (The New) Treasure Hunt.

chris319 · « **Reply #43 on:** March 12, 2008, 01:56:07 AM »

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I'm getting just a *smidgen* tired of random Numberwang proclamations every time someone says a number.

This Numberwang stuff has become way old and tired.

Mr. Lemon, do you have an appropriate "Everybodn's a Comedian" graphic?

clemon79 · « **Reply #44 on:** March 12, 2008, 05:44:54 AM »

[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'181035\' date=\'Mar 11 2008, 10:56 PM\']
Mr. Lemon, do you have an appropriate "Everybodn's a Comedian" graphic?
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Just find a picture of the Patron Saint Of Utterly Talentless Hack Comics, Carrot Top.