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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2008, 08:24:38 PM »
[quote name=\'tvrandywest\' post=\'183684\' date=\'Apr 9 2008, 05:02 PM\']
The biggest single prize is $3 million. In a typical weekly show we offer over $6 million. "Power of 10" would have to be on the air until another Bush sits in the White House (hopefully never) to actually give away over a billion, as Big Spin has. [/quote]
Oh, okay. "Over time", not "on offer in one episode." Gotcha. :)
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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2008, 09:45:00 PM »
First off, I think people need to EARN the right to take home a 6 or 7-figure check (decimals not included), and to do it, they will need to take several weeks to do it -- not just under 60-minutes.

With the advent of reality shows, there has been an increase of network primetime programming in which it may take up to 5 months to complete a competition or a storyline. and there are still a few scripted shows that regularly straddle plots over multiple episodes as well.  So there is no excuse for these 21st century game show producers to say that they have to cut a big ass check at least once an hour.

If the format is good and well-timed with little milking and little editing (see tape, live-to), a captive audience will make it appointment TV week-after-week.  

Bottom Line:  If Survivor or American Idol take 13+ weeks to give out a prize and/or the grand prize, why can't primetime game shows?  The ratings show it can be done!

BTW, Besides MG's Crosswords, is Wheel of Fortune the only game show on TV that has yet to do Primetime???

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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2008, 10:35:54 PM »
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'183693\' date=\'Apr 9 2008, 09:45 PM\']

BTW, Besides MG's Crosswords, is Wheel of Fortune the only game show on TV that has yet to do Primetime???
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Depends on if you consider Fox's Saturday morning kid's show The Adrenline Project a game show

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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2008, 12:52:53 AM »
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'183693\' date=\'Apr 9 2008, 08:45 PM\']BTW, Besides MG's Crosswords, is Wheel of Fortune the only game show on TV that has yet to do Primetime???[/quote]IIRC, Temptation/Sale of the Century hasn't been in primetime.
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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2008, 12:54:13 AM »
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'183705\' date=\'Apr 9 2008, 11:52 PM\']
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'183693\' date=\'Apr 9 2008, 08:45 PM\']BTW, Besides MG's Crosswords, is Wheel of Fortune the only game show on TV that has yet to do Primetime???[/quote]IIRC, Temptation/Sale of the Century hasn't been in primetime.
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They had those two preview episodes on MyNetworkTV before it premiered. Were those syndicated?
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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2008, 01:10:21 AM »
[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'183706\' date=\'Apr 9 2008, 09:54 PM\']
They had those two preview episodes on MyNetworkTV before it premiered. Were those syndicated?
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No.
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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2008, 09:24:02 AM »
[quote name=\'DoorNumberFour\' post=\'183706\' date=\'Apr 10 2008, 12:54 AM\']
[quote name=\'Modor\' post=\'183705\' date=\'Apr 9 2008, 11:52 PM\']
[quote name=\'TimK2003\' post=\'183693\' date=\'Apr 9 2008, 08:45 PM\']BTW, Besides MG's Crosswords, is Wheel of Fortune the only game show on TV that has yet to do Primetime???[/quote]IIRC, Temptation/Sale of the Century hasn't been in primetime.
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They had those two preview episodes on MyNetworkTV before it premiered. Were those syndicated?
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I thought those preview episodes were rerun, in syndication, either on Thanksgiving/day after or Christmas Eve/Christmas for whatever stations didn't preempt it.

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« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2008, 09:36:56 AM »
[quote name=\'Scrabbleship\' post=\'183717\' date=\'Apr 10 2008, 09:24 AM\']
I thought those preview episodes were rerun, in syndication, either on Thanksgiving/day after or Christmas Eve/Christmas for whatever stations didn't preempt it.
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I can't vouch for the date, but I'm 99.9% sure they made it into the syndication package...they were rerun recently on first-run (I think).
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« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2008, 09:46:23 AM »
[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'183718\' date=\'Apr 10 2008, 09:36 AM\']
I can't vouch for the date, but I'm 99.9% sure they made it into the syndication package...they were rerun recently on first-run (I think).
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Correct.

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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2008, 12:40:52 PM »
About Matt's comment why anyone would think that a civilian contestant answering questions about his personal life would make good television ("Amnesia"):

Well, it seems to make good television when they're yes-or-no, designed to embarrass the contestant and wreak havoc with his/her personal life and accompanied by a polygraph test--and not for a seven-figure payoff.  I find it incredulous that these people obviously think after taking the polygraph exam "they're not going to ask those questions on the air."  Oh, yes they are.

And it's even more incredulous that "Moment of Truth" seems to have no problem finding people to come on and slash and burn their private lives on national television.

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« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2008, 11:23:57 PM »
[quote name=\'MSTieScott\' post=\'183628\' date=\'Apr 9 2008, 10:21 AM\']so I'm wondering if the trend can be traced to poor promotion or network impatience.[/quote]It seems like shows aren't being given a chance to grow, to find a niche or an audience. The idea has to be a home run on the first pitch, or it's off to the Friday Night Death Slot, if not outright canceled.

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"My Dad" wasn't a very compelling show, so that didn't have much of a chance.
How much can be attributed to the compelling factor, and how much to familiarity? Fifth Grader and Lyrics have huge amounts of play along value, as well as a format that's easy to pick up on in the middle of an episode. Deal or No Deal is easy to follow along, and everyone can plot what they'd do. As easy as it is to see why a particular show succeeds, it's more challenging to see why one doesn't.

[quote name=\'Matt Ottinger\' post=\'183640\' date=\'Apr 9 2008, 11:44 AM\']Deal or No Deal continues to come up with new wacky gimmicks, and while purists here can bemoan that all you want, it's awfully hard to argue with the show's sustained success. And they've never even given away their top prize.  [/quote]I don't mind gimmicks. I think the Super Case and Megaguess help to break up the repetition of the Australian version. I don't like that our version resorts to exploiting fears, hobbies and personality quirks to hide the fact that otherwise it's the same thing every time.

If they're going to do gimmicks, I prefer that they pertain to the game. Whip out the Deal Wheel, or offer some way to increase the potential prize in a way that the production team devises. (One of my favorites came from the British version: contestants who dealt could take their choice of a stocking hung next to the Banker's Christmas Tree, and they'd keep the contents.

You can argue whether there's been a downward trend regarding the "quality" of the games on the air, but the ones that survive are there for a reason, and "BIG MONEY" isn't it.
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« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2008, 02:04:02 AM »
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the ones that survive are there for a reason, and "BIG MONEY" isn't it
Like this is such a revelation? Do we have anyone reading this who believes otherwise? How many decades are/were WML?, TTTT, HS, J!, WOF, FF on the air? When did any of them give away a $1 million prize? Any game show fan who believes in the Mo' Money Syndrome and thinks it's all about watching other people win large sums of money has his head buried deep, deep in the sand. If all it took was watching other people win large sums of money, state lottery shows would be the biggest thing in the history of television. Remember $1 Million COAL?
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« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2008, 02:25:11 AM »
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'184232\' date=\'Apr 16 2008, 11:04 PM\']
Do we have anyone reading this who believes otherwise?[/quote]
Sadly, yes, yes we do.
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« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2008, 05:11:35 AM »
[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'184234\' date=\'Apr 16 2008, 11:25 PM\']
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'184232\' date=\'Apr 16 2008, 11:04 PM\']
Do we have anyone reading this who believes otherwise?[/quote]
Sadly, yes, yes we do.
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Well, you know, I was being polite when I used the term "sand".

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« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2008, 09:29:21 AM »
[quote name=\'chris319\' post=\'184238\' date=\'Apr 17 2008, 04:11 AM\']Clementson's first rule of television: You can't buy an audience.[/quote]Oh, I don't know...if you paid me enough, I'd watch.

/cash up front, please