Pyramid WC query

[BrandonFG]

On the 80s Pyramid episode in which Tom Poston and partner go without getting a single category in the Winner's Circle (thus inspiring Why You Fail memes), one of the categories was "THINGS THAT ARE STANDARD".

Would any of these be acceptable:

-Non-optional car features (Too descriptive?)
-Manual transmission (Synonymous?)
-Just a list of commonly standard car features, i.e. A/C, power steering, power brakes (Does that stray too much from the point?)

[tpirfan28]

[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'190557\' date=\'Jul 10 2008, 05:08 PM\']
-Non-optional car features (Too descriptive?)[/quote]I'd buzz that...but probably not "non-optional features".  I think throwing 'car' in there crosses that line.

-Manual transmission (Synonymous?)

I did a thesaurus.com search on both 'manual' and 'standard', and did not show up on the other's list...so it's not a word authority issue.

-Just a list of commonly standard car features, i.e. A/C, power steering, power brakes (Does that stray too much from the point?)

I'm taking them, and I bet Clark's crew would too.

[BrandonFG]

[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'190561\' date=\'Jul 10 2008, 05:16 PM\']
[quote name=\'fostergray82\' post=\'190557\' date=\'Jul 10 2008, 05:08 PM\']
-Non-optional car features (Too descriptive?)[/quote]I'd buzz that...but probably not "non-optional features".  I think throwing 'car' in there crosses that line.
[/quote]
I can see that, but at the same time, I'm thinking leaving the word "car" out could possibly baffle the receiver, since a car is the one thing you might think of having standard vs. optional features.

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'tpirfan28\' post=\'190561\' date=\'Jul 10 2008, 02:16 PM\']
I'd buzz that...but probably not "non-optional features".[/quote]
I'd buzz that in an instant. "Non-optional" is synonymous for "standard."

[TheLastResort]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'190569\' date=\'Jul 10 2008, 05:13 PM\']I'd buzz that in an instant. "Non-optional" is synonymous for "standard."[/quote]

I wouldn't say they're synonymous, but I suspect it would be disqualified because there's no such thing as "non-optional" features.  Using that kind of language is considered "leading the contestant" and has definitely been buzzed in the past.

[TLEberle]

[quote name=\'TheLastResort\' post=\'190587\' date=\'Jul 10 2008, 05:58 PM\']I wouldn't say they're synonymous,
[/quote]What would you say they are, then? If something isn't an option, then it's standard equipment, right?

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'TheLastResort\' post=\'190587\' date=\'Jul 10 2008, 05:58 PM\']
I wouldn't say they're synonymous, but I suspect it would be disqualified because there's no such thing as "non-optional" features.[/quote]
Sure there are. If they're not optional, that's because they come...standard.

Bzzzzzzt.

[Don Howard]

Haven't seen the clip, but for THINGS THAT ARE STANDARD, was "Eastern Time" tried?

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'190599\' date=\'Jul 10 2008, 07:10 PM\']
Haven't seen the clip, but for THINGS THAT ARE STANDARD, was "Eastern Time" tried?[/quote]
Dunno if I like it by itself. "Some Eastern Time," on the other hand, I think is money.

[Kevin Prather]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'190600\' date=\'Jul 10 2008, 07:12 PM\']
[quote name=\'Don Howard\' post=\'190599\' date=\'Jul 10 2008, 07:10 PM\']
Haven't seen the clip, but for THINGS THAT ARE STANDARD, was "Eastern Time" tried?[/quote]
Dunno if I like it by itself. "Some Eastern Time," on the other hand, I think is money.
[/quote]
Daylight wasting time? ;-)

[TheLastResort]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'190597\' date=\'Jul 10 2008, 08:54 PM\']
[quote name=\'TheLastResort\' post=\'190587\' date=\'Jul 10 2008, 05:58 PM\']
I wouldn't say they're synonymous, but I suspect it would be disqualified because there's no such thing as "non-optional" features.[/quote]
Sure there are. If they're not optional, that's because they come...standard.

Bzzzzzzt.
[/quote]

Yeah, if you're just using car dealership lingo.  But find me a legitimate source that says "optional" is an opposite of "standard."

[clemon79]

[quote name=\'TheLastResort\' post=\'190609\' date=\'Jul 10 2008, 08:08 PM\']
But find me a legitimate source that says "optional" is an opposite of "standard."[/quote]
In the context of the clue given, they are.

Bzzzzt.

/you know, that whole "essence of the answer" thing

[TheLastResort]

[quote name=\'clemon79\' post=\'190611\' date=\'Jul 10 2008, 10:31 PM\']
[quote name=\'TheLastResort\' post=\'190609\' date=\'Jul 10 2008, 08:08 PM\']
But find me a legitimate source that says "optional" is an opposite of "standard."[/quote]
In the context of the clue given, they are.

Bzzzzt.

/you know, that whole "essence of the answer" thing
[/quote]

Nope, not buying it.  I agree it would be probably be illegal, but not for that reason.

[TLEberle]

[quote name=\'TheLastResort\' post=\'190613\' date=\'Jul 10 2008, 08:44 PM\']Nope, not buying it.  I agree it would be probably be illegal, but not for that reason.[/quote]How are you not buying it? There's copious evidence to the contrary, yet you stubbornly cling to your position with no reasoning. If you take the clue in the context of how everyone in the English-speaking world uses that phrase, then it's buzzed. If you take it literally, then it makes no sense. Y'see, words have shades of meaning and stuff, and aren't just letters strung together.

But hey, keep on digging that hole. I won't stop you.

[Jimmy Owen]

Would "Rockefeller's oil company" pass muster?